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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1320 on: March 6, 2012, 03:47:01 PM »
We only need:
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   Suarez/Kuyt          Gerrard/Shelvey
                  Carroll/Bellamy
play together...
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1321 on: March 6, 2012, 03:48:10 PM »
Whoever it is, and even if it's only one player, they have to be almost guaranteed to be an instant hit.  We need someone who is nailed on to come in straight away and improve us.  2/3rds of last summer's signing's haven't delivered yet.  We can't afford the time to be waiting on another player with potential.  Automatically, that means it's probably going to have to be a £20-30m marquee player.  I'd be happy with 1 of those than 3 'promising' players at 10 each.
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1322 on: March 6, 2012, 03:52:22 PM »
It'll be interesting to see this summer how brutal or otherwise Kenny and Comolli are with some last year's underperforming signings, our previous 2 managers (I'm ignoring Roy,as I'm still trying to wipe that period from my memory) were very much polar opposites on that matter, Rafa generally got rid of players who weren't delivering extremely quickly, until the bitter end where he often couldn't get funds to buy replacements, Ged on the other hand generally gave signings to come in and bed and hopefully improve if they didn't make an immediate impact.

If you were taking Comolli's comments at face value you'd maybe tend towards thinking that some of those who have underperformed will be given another chance, as it seems like we are looking to maintain a relatively stable squad while adding a little bit of quality, whether it pans out that way time will tell.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1323 on: March 6, 2012, 03:54:34 PM »
I am staggered that so many posters feel Shelvey with make it here. i have seen nothing to suggest he will.
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1324 on: March 6, 2012, 04:03:38 PM »
We're in a very good position come summer. Strong squad and the players seem happy to be here, obviously theres room for improvement in the 1st team and I'm eager to see who comes in but generally we're a good squad missing that little bit of instant quality.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1325 on: March 6, 2012, 04:06:58 PM »
Whoever it is, and even if it's only one player, they have to be almost guaranteed to be an instant hit.  We need someone who is nailed on to come in straight away and improve us.  2/3rds of last summer's signing's haven't delivered yet.  We can't afford the time to be waiting on another player with potential.  Automatically, that means it's probably going to have to be a £20-30m marquee player.  I'd be happy with 1 of those than 3 'promising' players at 10 each.

Or 3 "promising" players at £35m each.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1326 on: March 6, 2012, 04:09:54 PM »
Or 3 "promising" players at £35m each.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1327 on: March 6, 2012, 04:13:02 PM »
I think its obvious that we are going to fill the squad with youth. We have some cracking players there: Coady, Sterling, Suso, Flannagan, Robinson, Wisdom, Coates, Shelvey, Henderson, Adorjan - all these players will be around the first team.

I'd like us to go for quality. If that means going for a quality right winger and a quality striker that is perfect.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1328 on: March 6, 2012, 04:15:03 PM »
I really don't want us to go and blow another £35m on a player (unless it cavani, the one exception) I just think its adds unneccessary pressure and there are players out there who can be just as good if you look in the right place for less money. Just look at dortmund and what they did on a limited budget.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1329 on: March 6, 2012, 04:16:05 PM »
I am staggered that so many posters feel Shelvey with make it here. i have seen nothing to suggest he will.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1330 on: March 6, 2012, 04:17:08 PM »
I am staggered that so many posters feel Shelvey with make it here. i have seen nothing to suggest he will.
Do you watch the same Shelvey the rest of us do?

You forget he's only just 20. Big future.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1331 on: March 6, 2012, 04:18:40 PM »
This but not another Carroll.
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1332 on: March 6, 2012, 04:19:10 PM »
Comolli and Clarke didnt want Enrique, Kenny did. He has the final say, thats all that matters. Would prefer Comolli to put his stamp on the squad though.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1333 on: March 6, 2012, 04:25:24 PM »
I am staggered that so many posters feel Shelvey with make it here. i have seen nothing to suggest he will.

I think people forget how young Shelvey is he still qualifies for the U19's yet he has been playing League Football for 4 years, has Captained England from U16's to U19's and is playing for the U21's. He has shown glimpses for me of having the potential to become a regular here and was excellent scoring 6 goals in 10 games in the Championship for Blackpool.

He is three years younger than Spearing and for me is very likely to overtake Jay in the not too distant future.
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1334 on: March 6, 2012, 04:26:54 PM »
I am staggered that so many posters feel Shelvey with make it here. i have seen nothing to suggest he will.

You must have seen the way he controlled the game when he came on against Fulham last season.

Or the way the attack flowed through him when he played against Villa this season.

Those have been about the only real chances we've seen him in, and he's done great, and outshone his alleged superior officer Henderson.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1335 on: March 6, 2012, 04:27:32 PM »
I think its obvious that we are going to fill the squad with youth. We have some cracking players there: Coady, Sterling, Suso, Flannagan, Robinson, Wisdom, Coates, Shelvey, Henderson, Adorjan - all these players will be around the first team.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1336 on: March 6, 2012, 04:28:38 PM »
He is three years younger than Spearing and for me is very likely to overtake Jay in the not too distant future.

totally bizarre comparisons, Jay is pure class, but more importantly, he's a DM.  Shelvey plays a much more attacking role.

if anyone will be taken over in the not too distant future it will be Henderson.  Should have been overtaken several matches ago, in fact.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1337 on: March 6, 2012, 04:38:26 PM »
I am staggered that so many posters feel Shelvey with make it here. i have seen nothing to suggest he will.
Well that's the RAWK way, you would know if you have been here long enough. If a player is 17-20 and hasnt yet played more than 10 times for the club, you hype the fuck out of him, so when he eventually doesnt make a Gerrard'esque impact, he is a failure and the next 17-20 player who hasnt till then played 10 games is the second coming.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1338 on: March 6, 2012, 04:40:22 PM »
I think people forget how young Shelvey is he still qualifies for the U19's yet he has been playing League Football for 4 years, has Captained England from U16's to U19's and is playing for the U21's. He has shown glimpses for me of having the potential to become a regular here and was excellent scoring 6 goals in 10 games in the Championship for Blackpool.

He is three years younger than Spearing and for me is very likely to overtake Jay in the not too distant future.

I realise that pal, i just cant say i have seen too much from him when he has played for us. I think people assuming he will be the next big thing are well wide of the mark.
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1339 on: March 6, 2012, 04:56:55 PM »
totally bizarre comparisons, Jay is pure class, but more importantly, he's a DM.  Shelvey plays a much more attacking role.

if anyone will be taken over in the not too distant future it will be Henderson.  Should have been overtaken several matches ago, in fact.

Is that you Jay,

Jay is a decent squad player who at 23 probably isn't going to get that much better. Shelvey has always been miles ahead of Jay in relative terms. As for their roles I see them both as aggressive all action players. Shelvey might not enjoy the defensive side of the game but I would say he has more chance of dropping back and becoming an all round midfield player than he has of becoming a number ten. Again with Jay I see him becoming more of a box to box player than a orthodox holding player.

I realise that pal, i just cant say i have seen too much from him when he has played for us. I think people assuming he will be the next big thing are well wide of the mark.

I think for a 19 year old thrown into a massive Club like Liverpool he has done really well he hasn't shrunk or hid and for me I thought his performance away to Villa was top drawer for a player of his age. He has shown some real signs of quality with the ability to pick a pass and the willingness to get into the box. I just think he needs to work on his allround game especially the defensive part the way Lucas did at the same age and he has a real chance of making it.
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1340 on: March 6, 2012, 04:59:30 PM »


I think for a 19 year old thrown into a massive Club like Liverpool he has done really well he hasn't shrunk or hid and for me I thought his performance away to Villa was top drawer for a player of his age. He has shown some real signs of quality with the ability to pick a pass and the willingness to get into the box. I just think he needs to work on his allround game especially the defensive part the way Lucas did at the same age and he has a real chance of making it.

How do you see him developing position wise? I think his defensive game is very poor, similar to gerrards who both have not a  clue what is going on behind them and let players run behind them. I aslo think his mobility is poor, so am struggling to see what role he will play.
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1341 on: March 6, 2012, 05:02:28 PM »
fixed

Stop 'fixing' things that are fine the way they are. And why do you have some sort of grudge against Jordan?

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1342 on: March 6, 2012, 05:03:18 PM »
You must have seen the way he controlled the game when he came on against Fulham last season.

Or the way the attack flowed through him when he played against Villa this season.
Those have been about the only real chances we've seen him in, and he's done great, and outshone his alleged superior officer Henderson.

Hyperbole.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1343 on: March 6, 2012, 05:06:28 PM »
fixed
Fixed? Mate, Henderson and Flanagan are very good players. People forget Henderson is only 21, when in the centre he has everything in his locker. He'd be class if he just had the sort of belief Jonjo has in his own ability.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1344 on: March 6, 2012, 05:13:32 PM »
How do you see him developing position wise? I think his defensive game is very poor, similar to gerrards who both have not a  clue what is going on behind them and let players run behind them. I aslo think his mobility is poor, so am struggling to see what role he will play.

I am hoping that the mobility issue is just someone growing into their frame at 19 he is probably still growing, you often see players that age have a growth spurt and lose a yard of pace for a while. As for the defensive side of the game that for me as Lucas proved is something that can be grafted onto someone's game, he likes a tackle is very competitive and just needs to work on his tracking back and general awareness.

I could see him becoming an imposing aggressive central midfield player with the ability to pick a pass and the ability to get forward beyond the Strikers. Hopefully if he develops I could see Lucas being the Ronnie Whelan and Shelvey the Steve McMahon of 87-88.
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1345 on: March 6, 2012, 05:16:37 PM »
http://eurorivals.net/top-scorers.html

Europes Top 150 goal scorers as we talk, so who would you think is possible for us to sign? I like 9, 14, 16, 18, 33, 58 & 107.

Oh btw we have none in the top 150.
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1346 on: March 6, 2012, 05:22:40 PM »
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1347 on: March 6, 2012, 05:23:49 PM »
http://eurorivals.net/top-scorers.html

Europes Top 150 goal scorers as we talk, so who would you think is possible for us to sign? I like 9, 14, 16, 18, 33, 58 & 107.

Oh btw we have none in the top 150.

Crazy to see Sebastian Leto at number 48 on that list!
Seems to have developed into a decent player.
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1348 on: March 6, 2012, 05:24:57 PM »
http://eurorivals.net/top-scorers.html

Europes Top 150 goal scorers as we talk, so who would you think is possible for us to sign? I like 9, 14, 16, 18, 33, 58 & 107.



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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1349 on: March 6, 2012, 05:27:06 PM »
Just made my mind up to have a Chinese for tea  no 18 chef special with chips
:D Haha ya funny bollix.

Crazy to see Sebastian Leto at number 48 on that list!
Seems to have developed into a decent player.

Spotted that indeedy.
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1350 on: March 6, 2012, 05:28:03 PM »
I am hoping that the mobility issue is just someone growing into their frame at 19 he is probably still growing, you often see players that age have a growth spurt and lose a yard of pace for a while. As for the defensive side of the game that for me as Lucas proved is something that can be grafted onto someone's game, he likes a tackle is very competitive and just needs to work on his tracking back and general awareness.

I could see him becoming an imposing aggressive central midfield player with the ability to pick a pass and the ability to get forward beyond the Strikers. Hopefully if he develops I could see Lucas being the Ronnie Whelan and Shelvey the Steve McMahon of 87-88.

Lets hope so for our sake.
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1351 on: March 6, 2012, 05:37:06 PM »
Just made my mind up to have a Chinese for tea  no 18 chef special with chips

After clicking on the site I feel like a kid in a sweet shop

Did we sell full rights on Leto ?
Think we get a percentage of the fee if he' sold.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1352 on: March 6, 2012, 05:40:26 PM »
Think we get a percentage of the fee if he' sold.
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1353 on: March 6, 2012, 05:41:50 PM »
Javi Martinez would be ideal... Can play CB, DM or CM... Not a great deal of pace but neither has Alonso. I reckon Martinez - Lucas could replicate Alonso - Mascherano not in terms of playing style, but in terms of dictating and controlling the oppositions midfield, something we havent been doing very well because of Adam, Gerrard, Spearing, Henderson for one reason or another...

Martinez along with a few quality attackers would do the trick I feel.

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« Reply #1354 on: March 6, 2012, 05:42:02 PM »
Notice who's in there at 120 on 11 goals....... ;)
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1355 on: March 6, 2012, 05:42:04 PM »
Having seen Shelvey several times on loan and for you a few times I think he is an average (typically hyped) English youth lacking in technical ability.

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1356 on: March 6, 2012, 05:42:11 PM »
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1357 on: March 6, 2012, 05:44:26 PM »
Doumbia would be decent. Type of quick forward we need, good a finishing too. But vagnar love is also decent in that league and don't rate him at all. Leto as number 48 is quite suprising

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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1358 on: March 6, 2012, 05:44:49 PM »
Crazy to see Sebastian Leto at number 48 on that list!
Seems to have developed into a decent player.
He always was a decent player. I think he would have been very useful for us but for getting fucked over by the stupid bloody work permit laws and an apparently dodgy 'Italian Grandad' passport. Really frustrating, that whole thing was. That he's on 15 goals as a left winger shows that he was indeed a pretty special talent, who was worthy of exemption, but never mind.
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Re: Comolli: Only 1or 2 adjustments in the summer
« Reply #1359 on: March 6, 2012, 05:46:07 PM »
Number 17.Giroud.Boss.

Seen him a couple of times and my immediate impression was that he looked like the player Andy Carroll should be. A bit more elegant rather than a bruiser, but the same deal more or less.
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