Topic: Eurovision 2013 - Bonnie Tyler

[Prelude no.5]

I say you shouldn't despair if the Uk spends somewhere near half a million for the Eurovision. Malta, which surely goes nowhere near the budget potential of the BBC spends €450,000 each year on this. And that is basically why every budding singer over here wants to fucking win it. You get to spend 3 months after you've won the local contest going abroad and doing 'promotion' in at least some 15 countries, all free of charge. Who wouldn't want that ? Of course for the last few years this promotion hasn't done jack shit in favour of our chances with each year apparently being more appalling than the last. Neighbours though, that's what why we don't win. Yeah. . right. .

And regarding last night, I was absolutely gob-smacked we didn't give a single point to the UK! What's worse though was my old man wasting €0.70c of the family fortune for the hump.

Sweden deserved it though and were head and shoulders above the other shower.

[kellan]

To be honest I am not sure why the UK put so much money into this. We never get anywhere close to winning.

It's our own fault that we're wasting our time and money, because we send crap.

Jade in 2009 was a really decent attempt. 5th place and only a couple of points off 4th wasn't bad at all. But since then we have decided to go back to only being half-arsed about it.

We'll never pull out of the show, and we won't cut our funding either - so if we're spending the amount of money we are, it's up to us to make it worth it.

[gazzalfc]

Even if the BBC spends £2 million (i'm sure the hump got a fair BBC wage for performing) then its still cheaper than the average budget for an episode of a top TV show like Doctor who. Thats for the 2 semi finals and the final. So 7 hours of primetime entertainment. Thats not including the coverage it got on radio 1

Bet last nights final easily did 6 million viewers (easily would have done 10 million had it not been BBQ weather). It is an instant ratings winner. Sure its not for the reasons that the organisers think . But Eurovision is a British institution

Its the original X Factor/Britains got Talent/Pop Idol etc.

Never underestimate the British love of a good freakshow

[gazzalfc]

Do people actually care that we dont do well in it?

We could get a time machine and bring The Beatles in to represent UK and we'll still not win

[Lfsea]

Even if the BBC spends £2 million (i'm sure the hump got a fair BBC wage for performing) then its still cheaper than the average budget for an episode of a top TV show like Doctor who.

Very true, however there is very little resale value in a day of Eurovision broadcasting unlike Dr Who where they'll easily recoup the money spent on merchandise, DVD sales and foreign repeat sales.

In terms of general broadcasting costs, and given the BBC have just shelled out 170-odd million for MOTD, Eurovision is spare change. I know for a fact my mam watched every minute of it and loves it. I think there's enough people out there like my mum to more than justify the costs.

[RideTheWalrus]

Our songs are a tad too serious, we need to do something odd like the Russian grannies one year and we'll do much better. Thought Germany would win it though, boy was I wrong.

[loveisreal]

Do people actually care that we dont do well in it?

We could get a time machine and bring The Beatles in to represent UK and we'll still not win

That's such a myth.  The UK would do well if they entered a good song, they never do though and this year's entry was one of the worst in recent memory.

[Anywhichwayucan]

Absolutely no doubt that next year Ireland will send someone with a harp, and someone to sing a ballad.

[tubby]

You'd think that a country with a rich musical history like ours would be able to come up with some better songs compared to the dross we've been putting in over the past few years.

[gazzalfc]

Its finding someone who wants to do it. Most of them dont want to be associated with it any more.

[Anywhichwayucan]

Its finding someone who wants to do it. Most of them dont want to be associated with it any more.

There are plenty of quality up and coming singers in both UK and Ireland. I mean, you don't exactly have to have the greatest of voices, just a solid voice and a song that's 'outside the box' (I hate that term).

I think the UK and Ireland care about their reputation too much, and always pick quite a safe song. There's no way that Jedward were utilised correctly, either this year, or last year to a much lesser extent ( I thought last year 'Lipstick' was superb, and they were rewarded with 8th place) which goes to show, if your song is good/catchy enough, you'll get votes.

With Jedward we had two fellas, that would dress up absolutely any way you want them to, hop around the stage as much as you want them to, and yet we stuck them behind a water feature and had them sing a fairly upbeat song. Very poor use of resources.

[Agger]

Celebrations in Stockholm last night.

[evie]

Oh, the customary fountainbath 

[KERRYKOP]

There are plenty of quality up and coming singers in both UK and Ireland. I mean, you don't exactly have to have the greatest of voices, just a solid voice and a song that's 'outside the box' (I hate that term).

I think the UK and Ireland care about their reputation too much, and always pick quite a safe song. There's no way that Jedward were utilised correctly, either this year, or last year to a much lesser extent ( I thought last year 'Lipstick' was superb, and they were rewarded with 8th place) which goes to show, if your song is good/catchy enough, you'll get votes.

With Jedward we had two fellas, that would dress up absolutely any way you want them to, hop around the stage as much as you want them to, and yet we stuck them behind a water feature and had them sing a fairly upbeat song. Very poor use of resources.

99.99999% of the time you talk utter poo, but you are absolutely spot on here, you know your Eurovision.

[SwedenRed]

Sweden did have a boss song in fairness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5qURKt4maw

Certainly did...
I had her down to win the whole thing way back when we were picking a song to represent Sweden in the Eurovision... Its a very long process where they go round to about 6 Cities in Sweden, pick a winner and 2nd place, and then have a Grand Final... Winner then went to Baku. To be fair, its a good show... Some good songs and some bad, but thats whats its about...entertainment good or bad! Anyway, as soon as I saw her first I thought it would piss it.

By the way, I heard its in the UK Charts.

[Anywhichwayucan]

99.99999% of the time you talk utter poo, but you are absolutely spot on here, you know your Eurovision.

High praise, indeed 

[evie]

According to a Swedish newspaper a Greek Eurovision expert "demands" Laureen to be disqualified because there was a slow motion special effect at the end of the performance for the television viewers. He says he's going to write a letter 



http://www.aftonbladet.se/nojesbladet/melodifestivalen/loreen/article14889008.ab

Nothing in the rulebook suggests that it's not allowed though.

[Crosby Nick]

By the way, I heard its in the UK Charts.

Doesn't really count for much these days - it's full of utter shite (not sating Winkleman's song is bad, haevn't actually heard it).

By the way, who was the Swedish hottie who was reading out the judges scores? And what the hell was going on with her voice?!

[scatman]

you've gotta do a euro-dance song to win it or like swedens wamdue project style shit basically.

Get Tiesto to make the next UK eurovision track and he'd walk the votes

[Buck Pete]

oh Lordy!!!.....It's Lordi

What the hell was he chirping on about Saturday night??

[Anywhichwayucan]

Get Tiesto to make the next UK eurovision track and he'd walk the votes

Not sure the Dutch would be too happy.

[gazzalfc]

oh Lordy!!!.....It's Lordi

What the hell was he chirping on about Saturday night??

Anyone who uses the words arockalypse and Rockoning in their lyrics can say whatever they want

Plus anyone who has fireworks shoot out of their guitars is cool to me

[Agger]

By the way, who was the Swedish hottie who was reading out the judges scores? And what the hell was going on with her voice?!

She was a comedian, a character she played during the qualifications of the swedish eurovision. A british one, I suppose. And I take for grantet you're ironic when you call her a 'hottie.'

[brad147690]

It is 2/5 for the UK not to win in the next eight years. If I had loads of money I would put a couple of grand on that.

[Ziltoid]

Belgiums answer to Englebert Humperdink - Eddy Wally!!

Given the bikes in the background I reckon it's Pheeny

[KERRYKOP]

High praise, indeed 

Can I just say I was out of my mind drunk when I made that comment, dont even remember doing it.

[Trada]

BBC pick another safe boring song to make sure they haven't got to host next years one.

Bonnie Tyler represents UK at Eurovision with 'Believe In Me' - video

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[Anywhichwayucan]

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[Trada]

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Can't quite put my finger on it, but that reminds me of another song.

[gazzalfc]

http://www.insidespanishfootball.com/copa-del-rey-final-date-to-be-moved-due-to-eurovision/

The Copa del Rey final which is set to be played on May 18th could be moved to accommodate the Eurovision song contest that is due to be played on the same date.

The RFEF say that they are weighing up options for the cup final to be moved as they do not want to lose viewers due to the Eurovision song contest and that a move must first be approved by the RFEF and LFP committees.

“We are looking into the possibility of changing the date of the Final – kick-off time will remain the same but we need to look at a new date,” a RFEF spokesman said on Friday.

“We need to discuss this with the Professional Football League (LFP) because league matches take place on the Sunday (matches corresponding to Week 36 of the league campaign – apart from those which involve the finalists). Any new date must be ratified in the next board meeting.

“We are keen to ensure that the Final is played on a Saturday so that children are able to go to the stadium.

“It would be difficult to stage it on a Wednesday at a prime time slot as work and school commitments would mean that many families would not be able to attend. When we set the original date, we didn’t know Eurovision’s plans.”

[Fanxxxxtastic]

Black Sabbath's Tony Iommi writes Armenian Eurovision entry

Read more at http://www.nme.com/news/black-sabbath/69069?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=kasabianhardrock#Jl4wIyPOhEh74wSJ.99

[Big Red Richie]

It's great to see them giving it to an up and coming act to give them some exposure and make their nam . . . .  oh. Hang on a minute.

[gazzalfc]

It's great to see them giving it to an up and coming act to give them some exposure and make their nam . . . .  oh. Hang on a minute.

I dont think any up and comer would want it. The only ones who would would be X Faxtor/Britains got Talent rejects. Apart from announcing a return/reunion tour or selling a few greatest hits albums to keep the royalty cheques topped up there are no serious reasons for putting yourself through it.

Eurovision is what it is.  The UK gets in every year because the BBC pay over £250,000 of our TV licence money (though that money isn't solely for Eurovision. Its part of a international Broadcasters Union I think) and that wont change any time soon. Its a tradition. Plus it is a ratings winner for the Beeb.

The UK treats it as a joke and I think the majority of Europe are starting to cotton on to the fact that we do. Ireland are starting to as well.

I honestly think if we ever took it 100% seriously then people will just turn off

So here's to Political block voting, dodgy inappropriate acts, stunningly hot women, wooden presenters, BBC presenters trying not to be xenophobic in fear of the PC brigade and 3 hours of boring montages

Oh and I say this every year but a massive part of Eurovision died when Wogan decided he didn't want to down 5 bottles of baileys and be slightly xenophobic and call everyone an ejit anymore

[Riquende]

And I have to say every year that Wogan's attitude towards it was terrible and a massive part of why several generations of people in the UK don't take it seriously. I'm glad he's gone, although it's a shame Graham Norton is now essentially doing a Wogan tribute act, acting all amazed when people from such 'backwards' places as Eastern Europe manage to put together slick routines with good songwriting, and getting all annoyed when the UK gets about 5pts in total after putting in zero effort.

[AHughes1993]

Still have no idea why this country puts the most money into organising this event. I read that we pay a ridiculous amount to be in the final and not qualification only to finish nearly last every year. Whats the point? Waste of money

[Brethitmanhart]

Wow, listened to UK and Ireland entries there, both terrible. Hard to look at Bonnie Tyler.
And Ireland's entry is pure crap too, clearly the idiots at RTE's take on being modern, of course you'd see that wh*re Linda Martin involved too, she's like the Irish Madonna except about a million times more pathetic.   

I could never see it but theoretically Eurovision could have potential, be a nightmare to ensure it's run well to ensure high standard in each country.

[SwedenRed]

This is Sweden's one... Robin Stjernberg...From my hometown of Hässleholm! Not quite Lorreen, but its catchy and pretty decent song. Now Im after 2 tickets for the Final in Malmö.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJyvF02LNNA

[litliper]

This is Sweden's one... Robin Stjernberg...From my hometown of Hässleholm! Not quite Lorreen, but its catchy and pretty decent song. Now Im after 2 tickets for the Final in Malmö.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJyvF02LNNA

So...Sweden clearly doesn't want to host 2 years in a row. To be fair though the Icelandic song is also shit this year (my country). I'm going for Cascada for Germany.

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[SwedenRed]

She has my vote! Christ!

[graaf_x]

Ukraine

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