Author Topic: Rafa and Chelsea - a match made in hell or heaven? (Read 12005 times)

Matt8Pie · « **Reply #160 on:** March 4, 2012, 01:43:25 PM »

I know you're a RAWKite, Rafa. Don't do it.

Rafas_Heroes · « **Reply #161 on:** March 4, 2012, 01:44:50 PM »

I hope Rafa gets it, he owes us nothing after the way current players and management forced him out

DutchRed · « **Reply #162 on:** March 4, 2012, 01:53:47 PM »

Don't see it working out.

Lenstar · « **Reply #163 on:** March 4, 2012, 02:00:57 PM »

Really don't think rafa will go to Chelsea. I get the impression rafa likes to have a lot of control of all areas of the football club, something he will never get at chelsea

Lawnmowerman · « **Reply #164 on:** March 4, 2012, 02:02:47 PM »

He wont go there. If he was going there, he'd be there now, and Di Matteo wouldn't be taking over for the rest of the season. They're holding out for the return of maureen

Aido LFC · « **Reply #165 on:** March 4, 2012, 02:03:48 PM »

Quote from: JamesLS7 on March 4, 2012, 01:42:20 PM

Its going to happen isnt it

No it isn't.

Father Ted · « **Reply #166 on:** March 4, 2012, 02:09:15 PM »

Hope he doesn't go there.

He's already had to deal with interfering owners sabotaging his plans, and I can't imagine he's naive enough to see anything different at Chelsea. He'd also be completely unappreciated by their plastic fans, getting on his back after any negative result, purely because he's not Jose Mourinho.

Samee · « **Reply #167 on:** March 4, 2012, 02:10:22 PM »

DON'T DO IT RAFAAAAAAAAAAAA.

DanFromMars · « **Reply #168 on:** March 4, 2012, 02:12:24 PM »

If he does go I won't blame him. If Madrid don't come knowing in the summer.

He would know what he's getting into and wouldn't be arsed when he's only given 5 months then sacked. The man has a foundation to support you know and this would keep it going for quite some time. Would also allow him to wait until Kenny retires in 15+ years and continue the legacy.

Cruiser · « **Reply #169 on:** March 4, 2012, 02:21:19 PM »

Rafa is too smart to go to that shithouse of a club. He likes control and won't get it with the egos in that dressing room and the constant interference from the russian.

thegoodfella · « **Reply #170 on:** March 4, 2012, 02:35:53 PM »

If he goes there, he goes there, none of us can talk him out of it. And I am sure he must have anaaalized the situation, no...

djschembri · « **Reply #171 on:** March 4, 2012, 02:39:15 PM »

Hell.

No manager at Chelsea is ever guaranteed at least a year to get things the way he wants them to be.
The ghost of Mourinho is still present at Chelsea, and we know what effect that had during Rafa's time at Inter.
The system Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas tried to employ was similar to the one Rafa likes to play (high pressing etc), and Chelsea players had enough power to veto their manager and resist adapting to the new system.
Benitez has talked about going to a club where there is a "project" to build. Chelsea is anything but a project.
The fans don't want him (maybe because they're still angry he beat their special one 3 times in cup competitions whilst he was our manager)

Not worth it for Rafa

redgriffin73 · « **Reply #172 on:** March 4, 2012, 02:47:31 PM »

Quote from: Matt8Pie on March 4, 2012, 01:43:25 PM

I know you're a RAWKite, Rafa. Don't do it.

Pretty much this.

tommyLFC · « **Reply #173 on:** March 4, 2012, 03:16:16 PM »

So if he doesn't go to Chelsea where does he go? Bear in mind he wants to stay in England.

zabadoh · « **Reply #174 on:** March 4, 2012, 04:40:05 PM »

Quote from: LondonRedMan on March 2, 2012, 10:44:57 AM

Rafa should throw his hat in the ring for England - would make us into a strong side seriously capable of winning the Euros/World Cup...then come back to us after kenny

That's actually not a bad idea... but the press would have a field day.

Quote from: djschembri on March 4, 2012, 02:39:15 PM

Hell.

No manager at Chelsea is ever guaranteed at least a year to get things the way he wants them to be.
The ghost of Mourinho is still present at Chelsea, and we know what effect that had during Rafa's time at Inter.
The system Luís André de Pina Cabral e Villas-Boas tried to employ was similar to the one Rafa likes to play (high pressing etc), and Chelsea players had enough power to veto their manager and resist adapting to the new system.
Benitez has talked about going to a club where there is a "project" to build. Chelsea is anything but a project.
The fans don't want him (maybe because they're still angry he beat their special one 3 times in cup competitions whilst he was our manager)

Not worth it for Rafa

That's a neat summary of exactly why Rafa shouldn't take the Chelsea job.

eirwen · « **Reply #175 on:** March 4, 2012, 04:43:14 PM »

Quote from: tommyLFC on March 4, 2012, 03:16:16 PM

So if he doesn't go to Chelsea where does he go? Bear in mind he wants to stay in England.

I think he'll go to RM if there's an offer, even though I don't think that's a particularly good choice either.

Lothairio · « **Reply #176 on:** March 4, 2012, 05:25:13 PM »

Rafa for Tranmere!

armchair-fan · « **Reply #177 on:** March 4, 2012, 05:35:37 PM »

Quote from: eirwen on March 4, 2012, 04:43:14 PM

I think he'll go to RM if there's an offer, even though I don't think that's a particularly good choice either.

Having a go in Jose's sloppy seconds...again. Horrible. Although if Rafa is/was a Real Madrid fan then I guess he wouldn't say no. Don't think he'd last a full season there though

Magic8Ball · « **Reply #178 on:** March 4, 2012, 05:45:13 PM »

Quote from: armchair-fan on March 4, 2012, 05:35:37 PM

Having a go in Jose's sloppy seconds...again. Horrible. Although if Rafa is/was a Real Madrid fan then I guess he wouldn't say no. Don't think he'd last a full season there though

That's the thing Rafa (IF POSSIBLE) should avoid a club where Mourinho has been. Mourinho seems to create player cliques wherever he goes. Which may be one reason h doesn't stay long.

Rafa wants to stay in England though, and there aren't many clubs that are set up for his 'project' let alone worthy of him.

montysmum · « **Reply #179 on:** March 4, 2012, 05:50:05 PM »

Quote from: Magic8Ball on March 2, 2012, 04:48:49 AM

I'd prefer Rafa go to Arsenal or Spurs. Chelsea would not appreciate him at all, besides they're a plastic club.

They would appreciate him if he brings them success.

koppitekop11 · « **Reply #180 on:** March 4, 2012, 05:54:08 PM »

Would be devastated if he went there

eirwen · « **Reply #181 on:** March 4, 2012, 05:54:21 PM »

I don't know why people like Arsenal and Spurs so much. Their fans are just as horrible and don't like Rafa at all.
I dislike all the london clubs equally.

fosspowered · « **Reply #182 on:** March 4, 2012, 05:58:10 PM »

Quote from: Magic8Ball on March 2, 2012, 04:48:49 AM

I'd prefer Rafa go to Arsenal or Spurs. Chelsea would not appreciate him at all, besides they're a plastic club.

Like Spurs or Goons are plastic free and full of loyality and dedication...

Roady · « **Reply #183 on:** March 4, 2012, 05:59:13 PM »

i honestly wouldnt mind if he went to chelsea.Dont really mind where he goes.

Magic8Ball · « **Reply #184 on:** March 4, 2012, 06:06:03 PM »

Quote from: eirwen on March 4, 2012, 05:54:21 PM

I don't know why people like Arsenal and Spurs so much. Their fans are just as horrible and don't like Rafa at all.
I dislike all the london clubs equally.

I understand your not liking Londoners, they do seem less patient and less authentic.
I just think the management structures at Arsenal and Spurs would suit him. Spurs have a decent base that Rafa could build on and If he could quickly win a cup at Spurs I think that would convert the fans instantly and give him time to make them European giants.
The biggest problem with Arsenal and Spurs is the fans aren't prepared to watch their team defend a lead.

steveeastend · « **Reply #185 on:** March 4, 2012, 07:44:52 PM »

The possibilty of him going there is pretty big. Chelsea or Real, but he will be back in business in summer at the latest.

thekitkatshuffler · « **Reply #186 on:** March 4, 2012, 08:43:10 PM »

Can we have him back before The Plastics get him please?

killer_heels · « **Reply #187 on:** March 4, 2012, 08:46:20 PM »

Quote from: thekitkatshuffler on March 4, 2012, 08:43:10 PM

Can we have him back before The Plastics get him please?

Id rather have Kenny.

G-mania · « **Reply #188 on:** March 4, 2012, 08:49:09 PM »

Seriously, I don't even want to think about it. I'd feel like crying if this happened.

First Torres, and then Rafa??!!

Coolie High · « **Reply #189 on:** March 4, 2012, 08:50:08 PM »

Quote from: killer_heels on March 4, 2012, 08:46:20 PM

Id rather have Kenny.

thekitkatshuffler · « **Reply #190 on:** March 4, 2012, 08:50:41 PM »

Quote from: killer_heels on March 4, 2012, 08:46:20 PM

Id rather have Kenny.

I'm sure you would, and sentimentally it's a lovely match. As a 2012 football team though, I'd rather have Rafa thanks.

Laughter is the best medicine... · « **Reply #191 on:** March 4, 2012, 08:52:25 PM »

Quote from: G-mania on March 4, 2012, 08:49:09 PM

First Torres, and then Rafa??!!

if they get konchesky rawk will be on suicide watch

lfcshaunod · « **Reply #192 on:** March 4, 2012, 08:53:03 PM »

He wont go chelsea. I dont think he would go to any club that liverpool has bad blood with as i dont think he would want to risk burning bridges with the liverpool supporters.

'arry will take the england job and rafa will step in at spurs. Unless mourinho goes to spurs, then i think rafa will go to madrid.

Hiddink will be next permanent chelsea manager

thekitkatshuffler · « **Reply #193 on:** March 4, 2012, 08:53:26 PM »

Quote from: Laughter is the best medicine... on March 4, 2012, 08:52:25 PM

if they get konchesky rawk will be on suicide watch

killer_heels · « **Reply #194 on:** March 4, 2012, 08:53:40 PM »

Quote from: thekitkatshuffler on March 4, 2012, 08:50:41 PM

I'm sure you would, and sentimentally it's a lovely match. As a 2012 football team though, I'd rather have Rafa thanks.

Kenny is a good manager and its more to do with sentimentally. He did do something in his first full season back that Rafa didn't do in his last 4 full seasons with us.

thekitkatshuffler · « **Reply #195 on:** March 4, 2012, 08:54:41 PM »

Quote from: killer_heels on March 4, 2012, 08:53:40 PM

Kenny is a good manager and its more to do with sentimentally. He did do something in his first full season back that Rafa didn't do in his last 4 full seasons with us.

You could say the same of O'Neill in his honeymoon period at Sunderland too.

killer_heels · « **Reply #196 on:** March 4, 2012, 08:55:34 PM »

Quote from: thekitkatshuffler on March 4, 2012, 08:54:41 PM

You could say the same of O'Neill in his honeymoon period at Sunderland too.

I don't think they have won a trophy, unless I am mistaken.

thekitkatshuffler · « **Reply #197 on:** March 4, 2012, 08:57:19 PM »

Quote from: killer_heels on March 4, 2012, 08:55:34 PM

I don't think they have won a trophy, unless I am mistaken.

Hold on. You said Kenny had done something that Rafa didn't. Winning a trophy can't be that thing you were on about, surely?

LiverLuke · « **Reply #198 on:** March 4, 2012, 08:57:23 PM »

Quote from: Laughter is the best medicine... on March 4, 2012, 08:52:25 PM

if they get konchesky rawk will be on suicide watch

Not funny reecehenebry · « **Reply #199 on:** March 4, 2012, 08:58:10 PM »

Quote from: killer_heels on March 4, 2012, 08:53:40 PM

Kenny is a good manager and its more to do with sentimentally. He did do something in his first full season back that Rafa didn't do in his last 4 full seasons with us.

Jesus are you telling me a League Cup is better than a title challange, a Cl final and two european semi's? Perhaps winning the intertoto will be consider better as it's silverware?

Kenny will be best judged next season, once the buys have more Liverpool experience.