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Re: They wore the jersey..they could have been legend..
« Reply #160 on: February 23, 2012, 01:30:18 PM »
Karl-Heinz Riedle, if only we got him earlier  :'(

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Re: They wore the jersey..they could have been legend..
« Reply #161 on: February 23, 2012, 01:31:30 PM »
Think people misunderstood the meaning of this thread (or maybe i did??), we are talking about players who were on their on becoming great players for the club, players you will remember in 50 years time but for unfortonate circumstances they havent fulfilled that potential. so talking about robbie fowler and macca is irrelevent they played here for lots of years but the team they played in couldnt acheive the heights that they could have reached.

anyway i would say Luis Garcia, Collymore, Cisse (thought he could be massive for us if not for his personality and the transitional period he was whilst at the club) and Anelka.


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Re: They wore the jersey..they could have been legend..
« Reply #162 on: February 23, 2012, 01:34:04 PM »
Can't beat a bit of lunchtime fishing lads  :wave

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Re: They wore the jersey..they could have been legend..
« Reply #163 on: February 23, 2012, 01:37:04 PM »
Can't beat a bit of lunchtime fishing lads  :wave

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Re: They wore the jersey..they could have been legend..
« Reply #164 on: February 23, 2012, 01:51:48 PM »
Few people have said this and Riedle is a great shout. Paddy Berger as well - cracking player but never cemented his name as well as he probably should have. Probably Mark Wright as well.

Redknapp? Possibly if he had avoided injury and got some consistency.


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Re: They wore the jersey..they could have been legend..
« Reply #165 on: February 23, 2012, 03:50:03 PM »
1- Torres
2- Owen
3- Alonso (i fucking miss him)

Torres was very close, just needed a couple of major trophies and to retire at LFC and would've regarded as a KOP legend.
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Re: They wore the jersey..they could have been legend..
« Reply #166 on: February 23, 2012, 04:00:25 PM »
It's been mentioned many times and is an obvious one, but Owen is a great shout.

The lad could have been our striker for years and with Gerrard, Alonso etc supporting him, he would have been unstoppable. Can't help thinking what Rafa could have done in his first few years with Reina, Carra, Alonso, Gerrard and Owen down the middle.


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Re: They wore the jersey..they could have been legend..
« Reply #167 on: February 23, 2012, 04:17:03 PM »
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Re: They wore the jersey..they could have been legend..
« Reply #168 on: February 23, 2012, 05:09:37 PM »
Let's not do that boring debate on semantics. You probably have Carragher down as legend rather than the more truthful 'great servant'.

I agree Luis has a very special place in our history because of that CL win. Same with Dudek. Don't care about his flaps elsewhere, that double save in the 117th minute of ET gives him a place in a legends list for me.

But Carragher is 100% certainly a legend too. Whatever your feelings about his ability today etc. there would certainly have been no CL without him that season either. That Chelsea Semi he was immense. And he's been here a long time and put a lot in.

As for those who could have been legends... Torres, Jones and Jari would be my shouts. Maybe Masch too.
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Re: They wore the jersey..they could have been legend..
« Reply #169 on: February 23, 2012, 05:22:40 PM »
Collymore could have been something special but his head was up his arse

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Re: They wore the jersey..they could have been legend..
« Reply #170 on: February 23, 2012, 06:08:41 PM »
Rob Jones - Injures ruined him, Rat face wouldn’t of have got a look in for England had he been fit more!  :(
Nick Anelka - 50/50 choice between him and Diouf... the rest is history unfortunately ! :(
Harry Kewell - faded out of sight when a great career beckoned... great shame! :-\
Michael Owen - could of gone down in history for his entire career and not just the early year… his last choice in terms of the team he joined means he is confined to a life of abuse, all of his own doing im afraid.  >:(


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Re: They wore the jersey..they could have been legend..
« Reply #171 on: February 23, 2012, 07:35:02 PM »
In what world is Robbie Fowler not a Liverpool legend? IMO right up there
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Re: They wore the jersey..they could have been legend..
« Reply #172 on: February 23, 2012, 07:46:25 PM »
Collymore could have been something special but his head was up his arse

He is a massive cock but he was some player, real shame we didn't get a few years out of him at his peak.
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Re: They wore the jersey..they could have been legend..
« Reply #173 on: February 23, 2012, 07:58:19 PM »
Ian Rush, I was heartbroken when he left and a little dissapointed when he came back as I thought the Barnes,Beardsley, Aldo team was the best Liverpool I have ever seen and he broke it up.

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Re: They wore the jersey..they could have been legend..
« Reply #174 on: February 23, 2012, 08:12:35 PM »
Ian Rush, I was heartbroken when he left and a little dissapointed when he came back as I thought the Barnes,Beardsley, Aldo team was the best Liverpool I have ever seen and he broke it up.

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Re: They wore the jersey..they could have been legend..
« Reply #175 on: February 23, 2012, 08:43:25 PM »
So If Torres came back now but wasnt the same player you would be happy.

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Re: They wore the jersey..they could have been legend..
« Reply #176 on: February 23, 2012, 09:09:00 PM »
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Re: They wore the jersey..they could have been legend..
« Reply #177 on: February 23, 2012, 09:29:26 PM »
I consider Alonso a legend...he was here long enough and did so much for our club. I think the two guys from my time of watching Liverpool would probably have to be Macscherano and Torres. Mascherano is a great players and one of the best at his position in the world. I just wish Torres stayed a little bit longer.
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Re: They wore the jersey..they could have been legend..
« Reply #178 on: February 23, 2012, 09:37:45 PM »
Karl-Heinz Riedle, if only we got him earlier  :'(

Morientes, if only we got him earlier  ;D
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Re: They wore the jersey..they could have been legend..
« Reply #179 on: February 23, 2012, 09:44:31 PM »
I consider Alonso a legend...he was here long enough and did so much for our club. I think the two guys from my time of watching Liverpool would probably have to be Macscherano and Torres. Mascherano is a great players and one of the best at his position in the world. I just wish Torres stayed a little bit longer.

This is very true. In Mascherano and Torres at least, we had the best players in their positions in the world. Harder for Alonso and Gerrard to claim that as there were some very good central midfielders, deep-lying or attack minded.

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Re: They wore the jersey..they could have been legend..
« Reply #180 on: February 23, 2012, 09:50:07 PM »
But isn't it the point of the thread? Not that they are/were legends, but that they could have been legends?

In that case, Luis could have been a legend...
That's exactly what I was saying, could've. Others have said is.

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Re: They wore the jersey..they could have been legend..
« Reply #181 on: February 23, 2012, 10:02:11 PM »
Torres without a doubt.

Alonso as well

I'd add Mascherano to that!
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Re: They wore the jersey..they could have been legend..
« Reply #182 on: February 23, 2012, 10:03:50 PM »
So If Torres came back now but wasnt the same player you would be happy.
depends: would he be a 30 goal a season striker or a 20 goal a season striker? ;)
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Re: They wore the jersey..they could have been legend..
« Reply #183 on: February 23, 2012, 10:07:40 PM »
One day, people will hopefully look back and say "I was there son. I was there the year that Spurs won nothing again."

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Re: They wore the jersey..they could have been legend..
« Reply #184 on: February 23, 2012, 10:19:52 PM »
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Re: They wore the jersey..they could have been legend..
« Reply #185 on: February 23, 2012, 10:35:48 PM »
Has to be Jim Beglin such a shame injuries cut his career short.Such a talented player.

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Re: They wore the jersey..they could have been legend..
« Reply #186 on: February 23, 2012, 10:57:31 PM »
I've always maintained that if Souness hadn't been a total gobshite when he finished playing, he'd be competing with the likes of Kenny as one of our all time greatest servants.

Look at this tally:

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Re: They wore the jersey..they could have been legend..
« Reply #187 on: February 23, 2012, 11:46:23 PM »
Karl-Heinz Riedle, if only we got him earlier  :'(

Good shout. He was good for us, but ten years earlier he must have been some player.
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Re: They wore the jersey..they could have been legend..
« Reply #188 on: February 24, 2012, 12:00:18 AM »
Think people misunderstood the meaning of this thread (or maybe i did??), we are talking about players who were on their on becoming great players for the club

anyway i would say Luis Garcia, Collymore, Cisse (thought he could be massive for us if not for his personality and the transitional period he was whilst at the club) and Anelka.

You got it right mate.

This thread is not about legends. Its about players who could/should have been but weren't because of unforseen circumstances, ie Injury, bad management, mental issues or they just didn't perform for whatever reason

Here's an example:

Unforseen : Collymore, personality issues
Injury: Rob Jones
Bad Management : No to Anelka, yes to Diouf

Those three players should have been legends for us but didnt make it for a number of reasons.

This will be controversial to some, but I put Aquilani in the bracket of 'should have been'.
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Re: They wore the jersey..they could have been legend..
« Reply #189 on: February 24, 2012, 12:02:35 AM »
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Re: They wore the jersey..they could have been legend..
« Reply #190 on: February 24, 2012, 12:06:06 AM »
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Re: They wore the jersey..they could have been legend..
« Reply #191 on: February 24, 2012, 12:27:09 AM »
To me, there's more to being a legend than just playing well for years.
Real legends have that something extra personality wise.
Kenny is a Legend for what he did back both on the pitch and off.
Barnes is a Legend for what he endured and his continuing loyalty to the club.
Rafa is a Legend for all that he did.

With this in mind, I'm thinking of players that seem to make a connection with the fans. In the modern squad. Pepe, Luis, Jamie, Jay Spearing, Lucas, Daniel, and Dirk all seem to have this at the moment. Stevie to a lesser degree because he only really shows any personality on the pitch.

But of course talent and longevity are vital parts of this too.

Of players that had the touch of madness but also seemed Red through and through,
Who had the talent (or at least appeared to),
and who join early enough that they could have played for us for years:
Ryan Babel - seemed to have bags of talent. was outspoken but sound. was a bit bonkers. (For one reason or another, his development stalled and he was inconsistant)
Djibril Cissé - Had bags of speed, seemed like he was a top striker, was a crazy as a mansion full of frog. (Never managed to turn his speed and shooting skills into the world beater he could have been)
Raul Meireles - loads of talent, seemed devoted to the cause, looked like some crazed gay biker on acid (But turned out to be a bit of snake)
Stephen Warnock - looked for a while as if he might be the answer at left back, local lad, took no prisoners (but sadly didn't quite develop enough)
Oh, and of course Torres who could have had it all.
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Re: They wore the jersey..they could have been legend..
« Reply #192 on: February 24, 2012, 12:35:11 AM »
Recent history the obvious one is Torres, what an utter, utter fuck up he made

Going back a tad, Anelka (why the fuck we didn't sign him permanent is still a mystery to me), Owen, incredible for us early on but turned into an utter turd of a human
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Re: They wore the jersey..they could have been legend..
« Reply #193 on: February 24, 2012, 05:04:10 AM »
We saw Owen's prime and in a few more years I think he'll be considered a legend for us.
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Re: They wore the jersey..they could have been legend..
« Reply #194 on: February 24, 2012, 05:22:14 AM »
This may come a surprise to some but I'm going to say Titi Camara, he held us together up front when we had a litinary of injuries, at one point I think he was the only uninjured forward we had. Scored some spectacular goals as well. He also scored the winning goal against West Ham the day after his father's death. A legend in my eyes already but I think he was harshly dealt with in the end and was let go too soon!

Could've pushed on to greater things imho

Just add that he is the only player's name I have ever had signwritten on the back of a LFC shirt!  8)

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Re: They wore the jersey..they could have been legend..
« Reply #195 on: February 24, 2012, 05:51:45 AM »
Alonso isn't a legend??
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Re: They wore the jersey..they could have been legend..
« Reply #196 on: February 24, 2012, 06:05:04 AM »
Owen should have been a legend, but too many wrong decisions in his career have mean't he isn't regarded as one.
John Toshack doesn't seem to get much recognition on here, you hardly see him mentioned and Keegan, although he probably is classed as a legend is only mentioned fleetingly.

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« Reply #197 on: February 24, 2012, 06:06:30 AM »
I'll add Phil Neal and Ray Clemence to that list.

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Re: They wore the jersey..they could have been legend..
« Reply #198 on: February 24, 2012, 07:59:36 AM »
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« Reply #199 on: February 24, 2012, 08:12:51 AM »
Neil Mellor but for that knee injury and Sissoko never looked the same after his eye injury.
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