Author Topic: Torres: Seriously, What Happened To Him? (Read 111424 times)

Vidocq · « **Reply #520 on:** February 23, 2012, 04:44:42 PM »

Quote from: Bullet500 on February 22, 2012, 11:27:26 PM

Luiz

andymanlfc · « **Reply #521 on:** February 23, 2012, 10:05:19 PM »

Why do people keep retweeting the made up quote by talksport about Torres saying Chelsea will get to Wembley before Liverpool. Starting to annoy me.

Tepid water · « **Reply #522 on:** February 23, 2012, 11:24:55 PM »

Quote from: macca888 on February 23, 2012, 04:24:34 PM

There wasn't a vas deferens between them though was there?

I took a glans at it and I can see the issue, yes.

thejbs · « **Reply #523 on:** February 23, 2012, 11:58:56 PM »

Quote from: Mouth on February 23, 2012, 05:02:38 AM

No one would of begrudged him going, it was the manner in which he did it, last day and to the club he went to. Wouldnt of even been bad had he gone to Chelsea in the summer or the start of the window, it was the fact that the sulking twat had not been putting in a full shift, until the glimmer of a move came up, then he played his arse off, we thought it was the Kenny effect, but it was the dirty whore effect, he did it to make himself more attractive to Chelsea and kicked us in the spuds by whacking in a TR on the last day of the window.

I'm sure the club knew of his desire to leave a long long time before the last day of the season. I'm sure there was an understanding that he was staying until new owners were in place with no intention to stay beyond that. As shit as it is as liverpool fans to see him in a Chelsea shirt, its unlikely that another club would've stumped up the £50m that we got for him and for Torres it was a team with Money and CL football. I don't buy into the fact that he was only putting in the effort so he could get a transfer either. Once Kenny took over he was less isolated up front and given more chances to score. If I was a LFC player under Hodgson's regime I'd have been sulking too...

mildale · « **Reply #524 on:** February 24, 2012, 12:44:16 AM »

Quote from: andymanlfc on February 23, 2012, 10:05:19 PM

Why do people keep retweeting the made up quote by talksport about Torres saying Chelsea will get to Wembley before Liverpool. Starting to annoy me.

Because people are idiots.

MerseyRed · « **Reply #525 on:** February 24, 2012, 01:06:20 AM »

Quote from: Bullet500 on February 22, 2012, 11:27:26 PM

Wish Matrix · « **Reply #526 on:** February 24, 2012, 01:44:47 AM »

Quote from: andymanlfc on February 23, 2012, 10:05:19 PM

Why do people keep retweeting the made up quote by talksport about Torres saying Chelsea will get to Wembley before Liverpool. Starting to annoy me.

He's going to Wembley this Sunday. Watching from the stands obviously.

litliper · « **Reply #527 on:** February 24, 2012, 11:30:55 AM »

Oliver Kay ‏ @OliverKayTimes Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Fernando Torres dropped from Spain squad for friendly against Venezuela

rob1408 · « **Reply #528 on:** February 24, 2012, 11:36:04 AM »

Quote from: litliper on February 24, 2012, 11:30:55 AM

Oliver Kay ‏ @OliverKayTimes Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Fernando Torres dropped from Spain squad for friendly against Venezuela

Beginning of the end as far as his international career goes.

richiedouglas · « **Reply #529 on:** February 24, 2012, 11:44:26 AM »

He'll really struggle to be picked for the Euro's now.

No666 · « **Reply #530 on:** February 24, 2012, 12:07:00 PM »

Quote from: litliper on February 24, 2012, 11:30:55 AM

Oliver Kay ‏ @OliverKayTimes Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Fernando Torres dropped from Spain squad for friendly against Venezuela

Ouch. Can't even get in the squad when Dabeed Bey-ah is crocked.

Rohit · « **Reply #531 on:** February 24, 2012, 12:08:57 PM »

Tbf del bosque has been more than loyal to him and has continuously picked him since he has stopped scoring goals. When the likes of llorente, soldado and negredo are scoring goals for fun, he can no longer justify picking him anymore and he has more than given torres time to sort himself out.

jaffod · « **Reply #532 on:** February 24, 2012, 12:11:10 PM »

At least he'll spend less time on the bench.

Butter Keks · « **Reply #533 on:** February 24, 2012, 12:39:42 PM »

Bit sad this for him now. Needs to get himself home to Madrid and start again.

Such a stupid move to go to a shite club like Chelsea and I have no doubt that had he stayed with us under Dalglish and with the likes of Suarez supporting him - Torres would be scoring on a regular basis for us.

HELLRAZOR · « **Reply #534 on:** February 24, 2012, 12:53:20 PM »

Quote from: No666 on February 24, 2012, 12:07:00 PM

Ouch. Can't even get in the squad when Dabeed Bey-ah is crocked.

its Dabeed Vee-ya

Chakan · « **Reply #535 on:** February 24, 2012, 12:57:19 PM »

How the mighty have fallen and disappeared

SMASHerano · « **Reply #536 on:** February 24, 2012, 12:59:34 PM »

I'll never feel sorry for him. He deserves what's happening to him.

Robbie_9 · « **Reply #537 on:** February 24, 2012, 01:11:15 PM »

This must be eating him alive. He knows exactly what he has done and it has cost him his place in the spanish squad now and thats with Villa out aswell.

How much regret must be going through the lads head. Silly Kid.

S · « **Reply #538 on:** February 24, 2012, 01:12:31 PM »

Quote from: SMASHerano on February 24, 2012, 12:59:34 PM

I'll never feel sorry for him. He deserves what's happening to him.

My thoughts exactly.

Hopefully he doesn't win his place back.

Dubred · « **Reply #539 on:** February 24, 2012, 01:15:37 PM »

Quote from: S on February 24, 2012, 01:12:31 PM

My thoughts exactly.

Hopefully he doesn't win his place back.

Some of these players are so fickle. They deserve exactly what they get.

Didnt bother to look at the bigger picture when he forced his move.

He's got no one to blame but himself.

Red Beret · « **Reply #540 on:** February 24, 2012, 01:19:35 PM »

Quote from: richiedouglas on February 24, 2012, 11:44:26 AM

He'll really struggle to be picked for the Euro's now.

He'd struggle to be picked for Everton now.

Dermot · « **Reply #541 on:** February 24, 2012, 01:21:40 PM »

Torres thrives on directness.

He also thrives on confidence as much as any striker i've seen; similar to what Owen was like.

His problem at Chelsea is that the build-up play is so lackadaisical that he doesn't know when to run, when the ball is coming to him etc. under Rafa, and why he holds the man in such high esteem, we played a high pressure, in your face style, where we got the ball and charged forward with it, looking to release Torres at the first given opportunity. Alonso to Gerrard in the hole, then onto Torres. It was majestic. and so often we won the ball high up the field, Torres was on his bike, and that would be that. and once he starts scoring, his confidence goes up, and you see a completely different player.

I think he'd thrive with Gerrard and Suarez in the same team. He wouldn't work with Carroll too well I don't think.

there's not much point pining though. i'd take him for £10-15m no problem though. In a heartbeat. Call me crazy too, but I think he'd jump at the chance of a return. The old owners disillusioned him and forced him out, nobody else.

Cpt_Reina · « **Reply #542 on:** February 24, 2012, 01:23:23 PM »

Wouldn't even take him on a free.

Would be a step backwards. We've moved on.

Zlenpasha · « **Reply #543 on:** February 24, 2012, 01:25:16 PM »

Gromit · « **Reply #544 on:** February 24, 2012, 01:26:59 PM »

Quote from: Cpt_Reina on February 24, 2012, 01:23:23 PM

Wouldn't even take him on a free.

Oh come on. A strikeforce of Torres, Suarez and Carroll would complement each other, they all have different strengths. And when were we last able to pick from 3 top class forwards? Probably not since the days of Heskey, Owen and Fowler (and briefly Anelka).

muyuu · « **Reply #545 on:** February 24, 2012, 01:27:07 PM »

Quote from: Red Beret on February 24, 2012, 01:19:35 PM

He'd struggle to be picked for Everton now.

Well well... that's a bit of an overstatement.

Dubred · « **Reply #546 on:** February 24, 2012, 01:27:22 PM »

Quote from: Cpt_Reina on February 24, 2012, 01:23:23 PM

Wouldn't even take him on a free.

Would be a step backwards. We've moved on.

Agree.

People go on about he will get it back. He still has it etc etc.

I agree in one aspect that a player of his calibre doesnt become sh!te overnight.

Even with his injuries, he's a good enough player to have been able to adapt if necessary.....he was that good.

His problems for me are in his head.....and I'm not sure he is capable of getting over that.

The latest rejection from Spain I think is nail in the coffin for him.

He's not used to rejection and I really dont think he has the mental strength to come back from what has been the toughest year of his career.

Cpt_Reina · « **Reply #547 on:** February 24, 2012, 01:30:35 PM »

Quote from: Gromit on February 24, 2012, 01:26:59 PM

Oh come on. A strikeforce of Torres, Suarez and Carroll would complement each other, they all have different strengths. And when were we last able to pick from 3 top class forwards? Probably not since the days of Heskey, Owen and Fowler (and briefly Anelka).

He'd be more trouble then he'd be worth.

And he cant score any fucking goals besides all that other stuff.

rob1408 · « **Reply #548 on:** February 24, 2012, 01:33:26 PM »

Quote from: Gromit on February 24, 2012, 01:26:59 PM

Oh come on. A strikeforce of Torres, Suarez and Carroll would complement each other, they all have different strengths. And when were we last able to pick from 3 top class forwards? Probably not since the days of Heskey, Owen and Fowler (and briefly Anelka).

Torres isn't a top class forward and it has nothing to do with not playing alongside Gerrard, Suarez or Carroll. He's gone, whether that be mentally, physically or both.

Red Beret · « **Reply #549 on:** February 24, 2012, 01:33:57 PM »

Quote from: muyuu on February 24, 2012, 01:27:07 PM

Well well... that's a bit of an overstatement.

Not really. How many non-scoring strikers have they had over the past ten years who went on to do the business elsewhere?

Gromit · « **Reply #550 on:** February 24, 2012, 01:38:20 PM »

Quote from: rob1408 on February 24, 2012, 01:33:26 PM

Torres isn't a top class forward and it has nothing to do with not playing alongside Gerrard, Suarez or Carroll. He's gone, whether that be mentally, physically or both.

Has his struggles this season been much worse than Carroll's? They've both looked like players trying to find their place in systems that's not natural to them. There was a short spell earlier when he looked like he was finding his form, he scored a couple of goals and terrorised Man U until he missed that sitter. To not have him back on a free I find quite unbelieveable to be honest.

kratos · « **Reply #551 on:** February 24, 2012, 01:45:11 PM »

Not that surprising he has been dropped. I think it was that qualifier against Liechtenstein away when he couldnt even get on the bench and had to watch from the stands. The penny must have dropped at that point.

Red Beret · « **Reply #552 on:** February 24, 2012, 01:45:18 PM »

Quote from: Gromit on February 24, 2012, 01:38:20 PM

Has his struggles this season been much worse than Carroll's? They've both looked like players trying to find their place in systems that's not natural to them. There was a short spell earlier when he looked like he was finding his form, he scored a couple of goals and terrorised Man U until he missed that sitter. To not have him back on a free I find quite unbelievable to be honest.

Thing is about Carroll - indeed a fair few of our summer signings - is that they've been busy getting to grips of what it means to be a Liverpool player. I think they're finally starting to get it now and learning to step up. Let's face it, Carroll's done far better for us at Liverpool than Torres has for Chelsea.

Would I take Torres back? A part of me yearns for it but he would have to have a goatse full of humble pie.

Serano · « **Reply #553 on:** February 24, 2012, 01:50:52 PM »

I'd even have Adrian before Torres now. He's been very good for Atletico. Was pretty underwhelming at Depor but I guess in retrospect he was playing in a side that had literally no creativity. He was very good for Spain in the U21 Euro winning side, but even then I am surprised how well he has done.

If Adrian continues in this vein, Villa comes back from injury Pedro regains some form, Torres could find it hard to get a place in the squad back.

Cruiser · « **Reply #554 on:** February 24, 2012, 01:54:01 PM »

God I really feel sorry for him now

Aido LFC · « **Reply #555 on:** February 24, 2012, 01:56:02 PM »

Quote from: Cruiser on February 24, 2012, 01:54:01 PM

God I really feel sorry for him now

Please tell me you're joking.

Cruiser · « **Reply #556 on:** February 24, 2012, 01:59:38 PM »

Quote from: Aido LFC on February 24, 2012, 01:56:02 PM

Please tell me you're joking.

Why would I be joking?

cmoogster · « **Reply #557 on:** February 24, 2012, 02:02:24 PM »

Im happy seeing him suffer to be honest, the timing and the content interview he done as soon as he landed at Chelsea was enough for me to realise we're better off without him. I wouldnt have him back either, not out of principle but because if he was to come back most would be expecting the Torres of old and would end up very disappointed. He's not the player he was imo.

Aido LFC · « **Reply #558 on:** February 24, 2012, 02:03:16 PM »

Quote from: Cruiser on February 24, 2012, 01:59:38 PM

Why would I be joking?

Just amazing how anyone can feel sorry for someone on nearly 200k a week. Poor poor nando.

Upinsmoke · « **Reply #559 on:** February 24, 2012, 02:04:26 PM »

Hasnt torres alluded to something along the lines of.."the fans dont know the real reason why i left liverpool".
Sure i've read that somewhere or something along those lines. But he still doesnt say why he left, its just bullshit. He knows he fucked up and is now trying to spin it into something else, like he was forced out, left with no option. Fact is he was an impatient little fucker who couldnt see past a pound sign and a plastic club. Clearly had fuck all respect for Kenny Dalglish and his teammates at the time. We was bringing in Suarez to Play with Torres, he knew that, we knew that and he still fucked off. So the lack of ambition is bullshit too.

The man fucked up, not only was he a great player but he was adored by millions. Now he couldnt be further away from those two things.
Its weird, when he left, I felt anger, then sadness then back to anger, then pity and now nothing.