Topic: Torres: Seriously, What Happened To Him?

[LanceLink]

So, Fernando Torres has scored more goals against Chelsea than he has for them?

Epic swindle.

[stevenseagal]

Another game.... no goals.

[exiledintheusa]

Esentially played football for a whole day since his last goal......long may it continue.

[Cpt_Reina]

Still shit.

[GBF]

[DanFromMars]

Esentially played football for a whole day since his last goal......long may it continue.

Remember the same thing happened to Crouch when he played here for his first goal then he started banging them in.  Torres looks utter dogshit though, so doubt the parallel will continue

[Red Genius]

Bet he feels like a bit of a dick now, still he's got all those russian roubles to keep him company late at night, he can wave them close to his ear to the sound of all those plastic flags chanting to himself "TORRES, TORRES, TORRES"

Don't feel one bit of sympathy for him.

[.Mike]

He hasn't scored 23 hours and 26 minutes.

http://hasfernandotorresscoredforchelsea.com/

[exiledintheusa]

Remember the same thing happened to Crouch when he played here for his first goal then he started banging them in.  Torres looks utter dogshit though, so doubt the parallel will continue

Yep, took Crouchy 19 games if I remember correctly.  It took Torres 14 to register his first for them and it has been 23 since his last.  Some may say that Crouch was on the way up at the time, Torres however..................

[Cpt_Reina]

Tonight Torres passed up the chance to have a free shot at goal from 12 yards with Chelsea already 2-0 up.

Its not just the goals he lacks, its a pair of fucking balls.

Awful player.

[Hibsred]

It's now almost got to the point where it would be embarassing for him to score.

[reddd10]

Find the situation sad now.
Yes, he earns his 200,000 a week or whatever, but in footballing terms, a player who once scored 33 goals in a season and was once of the best players in the world, to be struggling to score against a championship side, and refusing the chance to take a penalty in a match that is already won, is just a complete downfall.
Would be interesting to know what did happen between him and Kenny, all this about him coming out of Kenny's office in tears and everything. It's just ridiculous to see such a talent play like that.

[stevieG786]

It's now almost got to the point where it would be embarassing for him to score.

It would be really embarassing for the oposition whomever they maybe.

Chelsea fans are claming he's been one of their best players recently however, says it all really.

[Virna]

His game and his hair look worse every day..

Thank God he left! 

[Kals]

It's now almost got to the point where it would be embarassing for him to score.

 

[eirwen]

Tonight Torres passed up the chance to have a free shot at goal from 12 yards with Chelsea already 2-0 up.

Its not just the goals he lacks, its a pair of fucking balls.

Awful player.

I never get this obsession that strikers must be fighting over the chance to take a penalty. Penalty takers are decided by the manager and nobody else.
It's just as ridiculous as Redknapp saying Suarez should have taken a pen for us.

[mig]

I never get this obsession that strikers must be fighting over the chance to take a penalty. Penalty takers are decided by the manager and nobody else.
It's just as ridiculous as Redknapp saying Suarez should have taken a pen for us.

I don't think it's about the striker fighting for the chance to take the penalty. It's more about having enough confidence to step up when your teammates and your fans are willing you to take it. Like Crouch asking for one (and missing, but that's not the point...) in the middle of his drought for us. It shows your mentality. Shit or not, I don't think it's a good sign that a 50 million pound striker doesn't think he's capable of taking a penalty at 2-0 up with the game pretty much won.

[Ultimate Bromance]

Can't help but laugh when you click on a match report, and you see his name under the scoreline and you think "oh has he scored?" then the little yellow card icon loads up next to his name.

Bless.

[Gromit]

Can't really see the point of taking the piss out of him for not scoring when we're not much better off at it as an entire team.

[L666KOP]

Find the situation sad now.
Would be interesting to know what did happen between him and Kenny, all this about him coming out of Kenny's office in tears and everything. It's just ridiculous to see such a talent play like that.

Would love to know what/if anything happened.

Last thing we should do is bring him back, if his form continued along the same lines we'd be more of a laughing stock than the plastics. We've already got two strikers that can't score.
The longer it goes like it is for him, the longer the habbit will take to break. Want to feel sorry for him, but whilst he's at that shithole of a manager destroying club I can't.

[LuisLFC]

I wonder how he'll react when he finally does score a goal.. highly doubt he'll really celebrate at all...
Would make it all the more embarrassing IMO, think he'd rather just get back to the game so he can move past it.

[Renato]

Can't really see the point of taking the piss out of him for not scoring when we're not much better off at it as an entire team.

Because we don't like him.

[Dubit10]

It was funny for a while but it's gone beyond that now. He looks more and more disinterested with every game that passes. I would'nt have him back for 10m even, shadow of a once great player. How embarrassing for him when the plastics started shouting "Torres, Torres, Torres" when the penalty was awarded. He looked like he wanted the ground to open up on him. Go home to Spain lad.

[SamAteTheRedAcid]

Torres never takes pens so I don't know why that's such an issue.

The issue is that he's completely and utterly fucking gash. Dry, unloved gash at that.

[PhilV]

Birmingham fans "WE WANT TORRES, WE WANT TORRES" when the Chelsea players were deciding who to take the peno cracked me up!

He has gone from the very top to very close to the bottom, incredible.

[J-Mc-]

Torres never takes pens so I don't know why that's such an issue.

Aye.

Said that to my brother when they got the pen, he never took them for us so I doubt he's going to take them for Chelsea, during a goal drought, in a game where Birmingham were looking dangerous going forward.

He'll score before he get's the full 24 hours though IMO.

[steveeastend]

It's now almost got to the point where it would be embarassing for him to score.

As we seem to be just as bad in scoring as he is we probably should end this curse, bring him back and restart. Would all make sense.... in a wishful way

[HELLRAZOR]

surprising he wouldnt take the penalty. complete lack of confidence, we have struggled infront of goals for instance this season and missed penalties but look at the likes of games with Arsenal and Brighton, you still had players wanting to take it and almost fighting over it.

wheras torres bottled it

[Cpt_Reina]

I never get this obsession that strikers must be fighting over the chance to take a penalty. Penalty takers are decided by the manager and nobody else.
It's just as ridiculous as Redknapp saying Suarez should have taken a pen for us.

Its not about a striker wanting to take it. Or Torres 'never taking pens'.

Its about Torres, no goals for 20 odd games, Chelsea already have the game in the bag, wanting to take the pen.

He's a bottling shithouse. Too afraid to step up and miss.

[Kochevnik]

It would be really embarassing for the oposition whomever they maybe.

Chelsea fans are claming he's been one of their best players recently however, says it all really.

To be fair to them, there are loads on here who do the same whenever Carroll isn't dreadful.  There's something about watching a big money player struggle at your club that makes you lower your expectations until they meet them, and then claim they're "doing the little things" or "everything but scoring" and the like.

[Matt8Pie]

Can't really see the point of taking the piss out of him for not scoring when we're not much better off at it as an entire team.

Strange, isn't it? We've still not recovered from selling our lethal striker, and he's not recovered from leaving.

I'd take him back if we had a certain budget in the summer and we couldn't go for some top quality names and he was a fallback option. He'd score goals for us, coming back would be a new start and his personal life would improve as he would be back in the city that his wife still longs for. He'd get one early on with the sheer amount of chances we're creating and the rest would be history. He'd take off at Liverpool again, not in the way he did when he first came, but he'd still get us at least 20 goals a season because his movement in the box was second to none at one point and you don't lose your natural ability.

[Tomo!]

Bet he can't wait to leave this league now.

Probably back to Spain in the summer and end up top scorer in the league, I'd piss myself laughing.

[SamAteTheRedAcid]

Its not about a striker wanting to take it. Or Torres 'never taking pens'.

Its about Torres, no goals for 20 odd games, Chelsea already have the game in the bag, wanting to take the pen.

He's a bottling shithouse. Too afraid to step up and miss.

I think you're missing the point.

Torres never takes penalties - therefore, to him, scoring a penalty is not really the same as scoring from open play.

He's not known for scoring from the spot, so a goal from the spot is just a goal statistically. It does absolutely jack shit to solve his actual problem, which is not statistical but mental - he can't score the goals he used to.

Scoring a goal that he didn't used to need to massage his stats, isn't going to help him. Scoring a goal like he used to, will re-invigorate him. Looking like a desperate clown, snatching at pennos when he presumably isn't even that good at them, could miss it, and has been in poor form anyway, is not going to help him out in the slightest on a personal level. Perhaps it will give the journos and us bitter schadenfreude-enjoying ex-Torres lovers some cause for thought, but it's not going to help the form of Fernando Torres - it's a complete irrelevance.

[Cpt_Reina]

Strange, isn't it? We've still not recovered from selling our lethal striker, and he's not recovered from leaving.

I'd take him back if we had a certain budget in the summer and we couldn't go for some top quality names and he was a fallback option. He'd score goals for us, coming back would be a new start and his personal life would improve as he would be back in the city that his wife still longs for. He'd get one early on with the sheer amount of chances we're creating and the rest would be history. He'd take off at Liverpool again, not in the way he did when he first came, but he'd still get us at least 20 goals a season because his movement in the box was second to none at one point and you don't lose your natural ability.

Honestly, what in the past year has convinced you that Torres would score goals for us?

He isn't just not getting any chances for Chelsea, he gets them. He just fucks them up. There was a fantastic left footed shank wide under no pressure last night. Nothing to do with playing for Chelsea as to why he missed it. It was just pure awfulness.

His movement is poor, his decision making is worse. And his execution when he happens upon a chance is terrible.

At what point does it stop being 'mental' or 'because he's at Chelsea' and will people conceded that he's just a bit shit now. Does he have to go another 23 hours without a goal?

[Walk on, walk on]

Can't help but laugh when you click on a match report, and you see his name under the scoreline and you think "oh has he scored?" then the little yellow card icon loads up next to his name.

Bless.

  full of truth and win.

[Cpt_Reina]

I think you're missing the point.

Torres never takes penalties - therefore, to him, scoring a penalty is not really the same as scoring from open play.

He's not known for scoring from the spot, so a goal from the spot is just a goal statistically. It does absolutely jack shit to solve his actual problem, which is not statistical but mental - he can't score the goals he used to.

Scoring a goal that he didn't used to need to massage his stats, isn't going to help him. Scoring a goal like he used to, will re-invigorate him. Looking like a desperate clown, snatching at pennos when he presumably isn't even that good at them, could miss it, and has been in poor form anyway, is not going to help him out in the slightest on a personal level. Perhaps it will give the journos and us bitter schadenfreude-enjoying ex-Torres lovers some cause for thought, but it's not going to help the form of Fernando Torres - it's a complete irrelevance.

It would get a giant 23 hours without a goal sized monkey off his back. That's point.

Why else do all profession strikers say "he needs one to go in off his arse" or words to that effect when a striker's struggling. Hitting the back of the net breeds confidence.

Torres didnt have the balls to step up and take one in a match that was already won. Either that or it was some sort of chest puffed out exercise in saying "I dont need to take penalties, im good enough without them". Well guess what Fernando, you're not.

[west_london_red]

Aye.

Said that to my brother when they got the pen, he never took them for us so I doubt he's going to take them for Chelsea, during a goal drought, in a game where Birmingham were looking dangerous going forward.

He'll score before he get's the full 24 hours though IMO.

Was trying to explain the same thing to a mate of mine who supports Chelsea. He didnt take one for us in 3 or 4 years, and even at his peak he wasnt the cleanest striker of the ball, seemed to 'scuff' a lot of his shot although they used to go in the back of the net back then!

[GBF]

He is Kenny's Trojan Horse gift to Chelsea.   Someone on a football forum has summarised his achievements at Chelsea

1. He scored 6 times in 5 games against Chelsea, including two match-winning braces.
2. He cost Chelsea at least 50m to transfer from Liverpool, not including wages.
3. His poor form was instrumental in the sacking of not just one, but two Chelsea managers, leading to a rumoured additional 30m in costs.
4. His poor form during the Christmas and New Year break, as the only fit central striker, was instrumental in some of Chelsea's worst Premier League form in years.

[Gromit]

Honestly, what in the past year has convinced you that Torres would score goals for us?

He did hit form earlier this season, started with Man U away and despite the miss he went on a little run scoring 3 or 4 goals.  Then he got that red against Swansea I think, might have also scored in that same match, and he's looked nervous around the box ever since.

I compare him to Morientes when he was with us.  Towards the end Morientes' build-up play was still pretty much spot on, but inside the box you could visibly see the confidence drain from him.  Once he had gone to Valencia he was finding the net again.

If we could only have one in the squad, on ability (namely movement and pace) I'd have him over Carroll, just because we can't get the best out of Carroll's headers or work the space for him to have a blast with his left boot.

[J-Mc-]

It would get a giant 23 hours without a goal sized monkey off his back. That's point.

Why else do all profession strikers say "he needs one to go in off his arse" or words to that effect when a striker's struggling. Hitting the back of the net breeds confidence.

Torres didnt have the balls to step up and take one in a match that was already won. Either that or it was some sort of chest puffed out exercise in saying "I dont need to take penalties, im good enough without them". Well guess what Fernando, you're not.

He hasn't been hitting the ball cleanly lately and that chance that he scuffed wide was far from under pressure, he had players breathing down his neck and it was 0-0 at the time. There was a time we'd see them type of goals flying in but not when he's low on confidence. It was far from under pressure.

As for the penalty, what if he had took it and it got saved? Would have done him even more good wouldn't it?

If a striker who never takes a penalty, even when on top form, doesn't take one when he's not on form, it doesn't make him a bottler, it makes it smart thinking IMO. Why take one if you're not confident of scoring when there are players around you who will be confident?

Kuyt and Adam (I think) are a prime example a few weeks back, Kuyt wasn't confident so he let Adam take it. It doesn't make him a bottler, just a smart player.