Author Topic: Ian Ayre's statement and Suarez's apology (Read 51938 times)

rushyman · « **Reply #200 on:** February 12, 2012, 02:34:41 PM »

Media and Demento have been a fucking disgrace throughout

I actually called kennys tone into question after Spurs. Fuck me was I wrong and I apologise unreservedly.

shelovesyou · « **Reply #201 on:** February 12, 2012, 02:34:42 PM »

Quote from: Trada on February 12, 2012, 02:30:44 PM

Luis has been hung out to dry I'm sure he won't be here much longer.

Bollocks.
He hung our club out to dry by agreeing to do something and then going against that.
You dont fucking do that to Kenny Dalglish.
Im sorry but he only has himself to blame for this incident.

JLFC · « **Reply #202 on:** February 12, 2012, 02:34:46 PM »

Feel sick to the fuckin stomach that the club is bending its arse over backwards here....

Wouldnt be surprised if Suarez leaves in the summer though would love him to stay....hes a very special footballer

Fair enough he misled Kenny and you shouldnt do that so is right to apology but with the other statement the club have bent over backwards here.....

Sharado · « **Reply #203 on:** February 12, 2012, 02:34:47 PM »

Jesus christ, that comment from Ayre....

kcbworth · « **Reply #204 on:** February 12, 2012, 02:34:49 PM »

Try to stay of Ayre's back... don't think he deserves it. Focus your hate towards the FA and Mancs please. Don't agree with the public apology though, behind closed doors would have been fine. I suppose they know it's a lost cause now, regrettably

stockdam · « **Reply #205 on:** February 12, 2012, 02:34:55 PM »

Quote from: The Fletcher Memorial on February 12, 2012, 02:26:57 PM

Kenny has clearly had words with him, as he aluded to yeaterday in his post match interview, that he would. Luis admits he fucked up, put Kenny in a shit position and Kenny has let him know that's not on.

Whatever anyone else says doesnt matter. Job done.

We don't really know what was said but if you are correct then Kenny should have stated that it will be dealt with and then the statement we had would follow. Kenny should not react to stupid media questions but just give a bland answer that doesn't tell them anything.

The club needs to sort this out and keep a lid on anything that could blow up. Unfortunately a different approach needs to be taken to the media who want to highlight every word and opinion and make a story out of nothing.

istvan kosma · « **Reply #206 on:** February 12, 2012, 02:34:55 PM »

Fucking spineless..... they could of dealt with it in house and pandered to the PR/media shitfest.... none of this would of happened with a peter robinson type at the club... the whole thing is a shambles.. club needs to grow a set.....

Djimothy · « **Reply #207 on:** February 12, 2012, 02:35:03 PM »

Terrible statement from Ayre,the club is a spineless disgrace.

Vulmea · « **Reply #208 on:** February 12, 2012, 02:35:06 PM »

Quote from: Andy @ Allerton on February 12, 2012, 02:18:14 PM

That's our club fucked then. We now have owners that prefer PR to everything else. Should have expected it.

Might as well go to the media and own up for everything bad that's happened in the world for the last 50 years.

he told the manager he was going to shake evra's hand, evra made it as difficult as he could but he still should have shaken it - it was a spur of the moment thing from him I'm sure but he got it wrong.

so he's apologised to Kenny and the club and he should - its not about the farce of a case brought against him but the fact he said he would shake and he didn't - by doing that he let down Kenny and the club

when Evra dropped his hand - Luis could have extended his - he could have, he didn't - all fired up as he was its no surprise he would make the wrong call - I wouldn't have wanted to shake Evra's hand either and before the game if he'd said I wont shake then that would have been fine with me - he would either not have started or there'd have been no ceremony.

its not about the media witch hunt or taking it up the ass - its about a player not doing what he's told his manager he would do.

Red Beret · « **Reply #209 on:** February 12, 2012, 02:35:09 PM »

I guess we have to be practical. Ferguson owns the media and drives the agenda. We've been put in our place and until we can do the business on the pitch and win some trophies we're not gonna get the time of day.

We've lost this one. Let the fuckers chortle.

The G in Gerrard · « **Reply #210 on:** February 12, 2012, 02:35:10 PM »

Quote from: Andy @ Allerton on February 12, 2012, 02:24:00 PM

LFC have confirmed everything that every media source has said about us all for the last four months.

You and I officially are scum. The players are scum. The club is scum. The manger is scum. Suarez is scum.

If you think anything else then you are deluded. Every story from now on will be along the lines of "Liverpool admit to everything we've said" - we as a club will have to grovel and admit anything and everything thrown at us. We have thrown away any chance of defending ourselves.

None of us can even argue about anything. Every conversation will end with "Yeah - you are all scum and Suarez admitted you all are."

It's even started already if you read some media sources already. By tomorrow the shite this club has got off the media will pale to what's coming. But now we've confirmed it all so they can really go overboard. Because we've admitted every little thing they say about us.

I thought you was being overdramatic til I saw the Ayre statement.

What a load of crap. If we don't even make a response to Ferguson's comments yesterday then what a joke our initial statement after the Suarez incident happened was.

Scousebeef · « **Reply #211 on:** February 12, 2012, 02:35:11 PM »

So they say Suarez is racist based soley on the say of Patrice Evra who has been found to have been lying during previous attempts at pulling out the race card!
Yet the FA in its infinate wisdom banned Suarez for eight games for using a word which is considered perfectly acceptable in his homeland as it is a term of endearment much like 'Amigo' and 'Amiga' but where those two words for friend include the persons sex the term used by Surez includes the persons colour. What if Evra plays an international game in south America and the term is used towards him there? would he complain? perhaps, but he would then have to accept the fact that it is not being used in a racist way.

After what Evra put him through can you blame him for not wanting to shake his hand? after all he shook the hand of other black players (except Rio) and hugged Glen Johnson before the kick off so if he's a racist he's pretty crap at it!!

Surez shouldn't even consider leaving the club he should stay and show the absolute fucking filth that is the FA and the British media what a class talent he truly is!!

Siannn. · « **Reply #212 on:** February 12, 2012, 02:35:11 PM »

To be honest I'm really, absolutely disillusioned with football right now.

Midget · « **Reply #213 on:** February 12, 2012, 02:35:24 PM »

Dissapointing. We shouldn't bend over for the press and Ferguson like this. We should stand together as a club at times like this and protect our own. We should do what is right instead of choosing the easy choice and doing what Ferguson and his PR machine tells us to do. We have handled this Suarez/Evra affair all wrong and I hope we learn from it.

Paragon · « **Reply #214 on:** February 12, 2012, 02:35:25 PM »

Ian Ayre is receiving some unfair criticism here. Suarez mislead the club and has rightly apologised.

deadlybuzz · « **Reply #215 on:** February 12, 2012, 02:35:27 PM »

Sadly think that's Luis gone this summer now after seeing Ayre's statement. Fed him to the wolves when there was no need to after Suarez's apology.

Dentron · « **Reply #216 on:** February 12, 2012, 02:35:43 PM »

Ian Ayre can fuck off.

Just keep your fucking mouth shut.

richiedouglas · « **Reply #217 on:** February 12, 2012, 02:35:46 PM »

Come on lads, the club obviously asked him to do it (as his employer). He said ok. Come to the day and he didn't do.

I wouldn't have shaken hands, but the furore caused about it vindicates the club trying to sort the handshake.

carling · « **Reply #218 on:** February 12, 2012, 02:35:49 PM »

It seems we have actually bought in to the 'draw a line under it' bollocks.

As if a handshake or a fucking apology is going to be anywhere near enough for them arseholes. They want Luis's head on a platter.

I really don't know what to think right now.

CognacBut · « **Reply #219 on:** February 12, 2012, 02:35:50 PM »

Press check list.

Next up, constant rumours of Suarez wanting out.

indianscouser · « **Reply #220 on:** February 12, 2012, 02:35:52 PM »

So now the media and demento have got their due. Winners won't play for Liverpool anymore. Instead, we will have to put up with grovelling english shite. Welcome to LFC, the new Champions of Mediocrity.

gerrardlfc · « **Reply #221 on:** February 12, 2012, 02:35:56 PM »

Quote from: shelovesyou on February 12, 2012, 02:34:42 PM

Bollocks.
He hung our club out to dry by agreeing to do something and then going against that.
You dont fucking do that to Kenny Dalglish.
Im sorry but he only has himself to blame for this incident.

Spot on, Suarez went against his word

ChrisV · « **Reply #222 on:** February 12, 2012, 02:36:05 PM »

Jesus, there are some fucking drama queens in here.

Kenny apparently instructed Suarez to shake Evra's hand and he didn't. And the club now kicking up a stink about this is apparently some sort of outrage. There are only three possibilities here:

- Kenny is a fucking idiot, under the thumb of Ferguson, for telling Suarez to shake Evra's hand and get it over with. Fine. If you think that, come out and say it.
- Kenny doesn't have the right to tell players what to do. Again, if you think this let's hear it.
- The club should just ignore it when a player disobeys the manager. I can't believe anyone thinks this.

So which is it?

The Fletcher Memorial · « **Reply #223 on:** February 12, 2012, 02:36:13 PM »

Some you people really are clueless fucking idiots!

Luis told Kenny and the club he'd shake hands.
Luis didnt shake hands.
He's made an appology.

The only thing I do agree with some of you on is that Ayre's statement is totaly unnecessary.

buzzing · « **Reply #224 on:** February 12, 2012, 02:36:14 PM »

Expected he'd say this. After reading a post on here yesterday i genuinely thought it as Evra who refused the shake initally. Changed my mind a zillion times but part of me always thought it was suarez who didn't want to.

astowell1 · « **Reply #225 on:** February 12, 2012, 02:36:16 PM »

I don't even know how I feel about everything anymore. I do know that I am disappointed in Suarez but there is just so many things to consider...just blah.

Get · « **Reply #226 on:** February 12, 2012, 02:36:23 PM »

one of the very few if not the only one this season world class player and we just fucking put him for sale in the summer.

not a shocker tho.. we always fuck up, at least the last 20 years so why should it end now.

Guz-kop · « **Reply #227 on:** February 12, 2012, 02:36:24 PM »

Quote from: kcbworth on February 12, 2012, 02:34:49 PM

Try to stay of Ayre's back... don't think he deserves it. Focus your hate towards the FA and Mancs please. Don't agree with the public apology though, behind closed doors would have been fine. I suppose they know it's a lost cause now, regrettably

What purpose dose it serve except undermining one of our own players? The apology was fine, enough. Done, draw a line under it. Then this? Why? Clearly the club are more interested in what the newspapers and slime like Gordon Taylor think.

El_Pistolero · « **Reply #228 on:** February 12, 2012, 02:36:34 PM »

Quote from: Paragon on February 12, 2012, 02:35:25 PM

Ian Ayre is receiving some unfair criticism here. Suarez embarrassed the club and has rightly apologised.

We make him apologise, then Ian Ayre comes out and says he's wrong too? Fuck that. All while we let the Whiskey Nosed c*nt say what he said?

Piss take. I can accept the apology from Luis, just, but this too? Nah.

timmyonions · « **Reply #229 on:** February 12, 2012, 02:36:43 PM »

It's about the bigger picture here.The club had to pit this to bed.The clubs reputation is in tatters.Kennys reputation was in tatters.In hyndsight the club should have done this from the beginning. They should have taken the hit and moved on. Its not about bending over and taking it up the arse.Sure Luis was done up like a kipper from the beginning but fighting this was fighting a battle we were never going to win.The PC brigade were out in full force.We were never going to come out of this on the good side.Never no matter what.

I'm glad he issued the apology.I'm glad the club issued there statement.Nobody is bigger than Liverpool football club.Hopefully that will be the end of the matter now.

CorKopite · « **Reply #230 on:** February 12, 2012, 02:36:50 PM »

Need the Luis Suarez song sung as loud as ever at Brighton. We are going to lose an extremely talented player soon I would imagine. Lets show him the fans are still behind him. Ian Ayre has been brilliant for this club in the last while but that statement is fucking bollocks. They better follow it with a statement for Ferguson soon or I'll be utterly disgusted.

Andy @ Allerton · « **Reply #231 on:** February 12, 2012, 02:36:51 PM »

Quote from: rednich85 on February 12, 2012, 02:34:22 PM

Fucked off with all this shite now.

If I were Suarez I'd be checking flights to the continent.

Absolutely wouldn't blame him for leaving now.

kelevra · « **Reply #232 on:** February 12, 2012, 02:36:51 PM »

Gutless from the club as usual

Dr Stop · « **Reply #233 on:** February 12, 2012, 02:36:52 PM »

Quote from: SadRed on February 12, 2012, 02:34:26 PM

Finally. Some sense. The sooner we realize the people who are right dont always win, the better. Its all about playing the media. It really is. The more bridges we burn, the more trouble we are in. Its a bit like foregin affairs. The people who control the media can destroy a country, a club is no big deal. Just take it on the chin and wait for our time to dish it back to them.

Agreed. Diplomacy is obligatory in the modern world, you can't keep going to war.

evenflow · « **Reply #234 on:** February 12, 2012, 02:36:53 PM »

Quote from: Andy @ Allerton on February 12, 2012, 02:24:00 PM

LFC have confirmed everything that every media source has said about us all for the last four months.

You and I officially are scum. The players are scum. The club is scum. The manger is scum. Suarez is scum.

If you think anything else then you are deluded. Every story from now on will be along the lines of "Liverpool admit to everything we've said" - we as a club will have to grovel and admit anything and everything thrown at us. We have thrown away any chance of defending ourselves.

None of us can even argue about anything. Every conversation will end with "Yeah - you are all scum and Suarez admitted you all are."

It's even started already if you read some media sources already. By tomorrow the shite this club has got off the media will pale to what's coming. But now we've confirmed it all so they can really go overboard. Because we've admitted every little thing they say about us.

No Andy. This is one in which we need to be far better in dealing with the media filth. The apology is a start but the other issues, particularly fergusons rant needs to be tackled head on. Suarez put Kenny, it seems in a difficult position. That made the whole thing difficult to deal with- especially with the press after the match.
We need to fight this on our terms and take back the portrayal of our club from those who are given a free reign to do so because we keep letting ourselves down with what does or does not come out of the club.
Our club has a fantastic record on fighting racism. there were black fans in the kop when you couldnt walk past football grounds, if you were black in other parts of the country. Our club and city has a tradition that took on the bile from Murdochs press and the politics of Thatcher in the city.
That's what we are about and that's what we need to trumpet loud and clear.

adwhite40 · « **Reply #235 on:** February 12, 2012, 02:36:54 PM »

Not sure what to say about all this now!

scouse29 · « **Reply #236 on:** February 12, 2012, 02:36:57 PM »

Quote from: deadlybuzz on February 12, 2012, 02:35:27 PM

Sadly think that's Luis gone this summer now after seeing Ayre's statement. Fed him to the wolves when there was no need to after Suarez's apology.

Who is bigger one player or the club?

Twelfth Customer · « **Reply #237 on:** February 12, 2012, 02:36:58 PM »

Quote from: Hazell on February 12, 2012, 02:28:52 PM

Fuck me, there's no need to for Ayre to say anything either. Luis's statement should be enough, even though the club didn't need to say anything.

Shit just seen this, now it seems the FA & media has forced us to make Suarez apologise. There was no need for Arye to get involved.

Sharado · « **Reply #238 on:** February 12, 2012, 02:37:07 PM »

Quote from: Siannn. on February 12, 2012, 02:35:11 PM

To be honest I'm really, absolutely disillusioned with football right now.

This. All just feels like a big fucking waste of time, effort and money.

Gravy · « **Reply #239 on:** February 12, 2012, 02:37:10 PM »

Ian Ayre - you have no backbone. Support your players and fans to the hilt. We may hate Ferguson like the devil, but that's what he does - event when they Kung fu kick a crowd member or try to break someone's leg. He would fight to the bitter end for his own, as would Kenny, but Kennys hands are tied here methinks

As for the FA. The double standards are shocking. They have just appointed an England manager who was proven to have called Paul Ince exactly was Terry has been accused of calling Ferdinand.