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De-Panning the Scouse
« on: January 27, 2012, 01:00:05 AM »
Found this while mooching around linked on the blue moon forum, City fans for you!




http://www.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/Blog/index.php/2012/01/26/de-panning-the-scouse/






It was with some trepidation that I decided to take my ten year old son to Anfield for the League Cup semi-final second leg. Having never visited the red side of Stanley Park, I had heard many a horror story about the hostility that a visit to Liverpool can bring. What helped me decide to go was the fact that the famous old ground’s days are numbered given Liverpool’s desperate need for a spanking new stadium to rival those of Arsenal and Manchester City. The fact that it was a cup semi-final under the floodlights with an inflated away allocation made this a mouth watering prospect and one that I wasn’t gong to miss.

Of course recently, the scare stories surrounding Anfield Road have increased tenfold due to the race issues involving both Luis Suarez and Oldham Athletic’s Tom Adeyemi. Reading the reaction of some rival fans, stepping into Liverpool would be akin to attending a ‘Warriors’ like gang warfare meeting with the Nogzy, the Crocky Crew, Combat 18 and the Ku Klux Klan all in attendance.

I arranged to meet an old mate who is Liverpool born and bred. I’ve not seen John for the best part of a decade and thought it would be an ideal chance to meet up, chat about nights out of the days when we were both young and single and use his knowledge of the area to find a quiet, safe spot to park with the chance of finding my car in the same condition I left it in. On the day before the match, John advised me to hide any hint of sky blue on both myself and the lad. It didn’t fill me with confidence that the night would be an enjoyable, worry free event.

I needn’t have worried. We parked on the Everton side of Stanley Park on a side street just off County Road. There were no scallywags asking if they could “mind your car mate?” and we had a short walk through the Anfield estate towards the ground. We stopped at a pub imaginatively called “The Twelfth Man” (come on Liverpool, more originality needed please) and due to the plan to keep my Salfordian accent under wraps, I happily allowed my tour guide to get the lagers in.

With Scouse John queueing at the bar, I thought it a good time to text the missus to let her know we’d arrived and were near the ground. After all the all the meticulous planning including tucking my City shirt in, zipping up my Boca Juniors jacket and keeping my big gob shut, I managed to out myself as the enemy in a new and imaginative way. As I unlocked the keypad on my phone, the gold eagled crest of Manchester City appeared, spinning away with the Etihad Stadium as a backdrop and sending me into a frenzy as it went. I scanned the pub to try to spot the first flying pint glass. Nothing. Not a clenched fist raised in anger. The only response my infiltration drew was from one of the two thirty something thugs to my right, one of which having spotted my screensaver leant in to his accomplice and shrugged “Fucking hell, he’s brave coming in here la, d’yer wanna gerroff to the ground?”

We had another pint and set off into the cauldron of hate known as Anfield Road. I stopped at a badge stall to add a Liverpool crest to my growing collection. I told the vendor I wanted an ’80′s retro Liverpool badge. Rather than chase me away down the street for even having the audacity to speak with an Eccles twang, he scanned his cork pin board and found me a rather splendid badge much to my liking. We left John at the corner between the Kop and the Main Stand, arranged to meet at the same spot after the match and headed towards the Anfield Road stand that was housing us away fans.

A brief stop for a few moments’ silence at the Hillsborough memorial made me reflect on the devastation brought to families across Merseyside. People reached out to place a hand on the marble and wiped tears from their eyes. My lad asked why they were touching it. I could only guess that these poor people were directly affected by the tradgedy.

We got in the ground ten minutes late due to some piss poor organisation from the Merseyside club and saw the first tense scenes of the night as City fans became increasingly frustrated at being outside whilst the action was going on inside.

Once in the ground I have to say I enjoyed the atmosphere and admired the scene before my eyes. The home fans are spoken of in glowing terms by all quarters in the national media for having a unique atmosphere that is unrivalled in world football. A load of old bollocks. They sing at the start, they sing for a good ten minutes after a goal and they sing when Steve Gerrard does something half decent.

When injury time is almost up and the game looks to be in the bag, a rousing rendition of “You’ll Never Walk Alone” is aired. Now usually, I despise this terrace anthem. I mute the telly whenever Liverpool are on the box as the teams walk out. Last night though, there was no mute button to be pressed. All I could do was watch in awe as all four sides of Anfield held their scarves aloft and sang their hearts out. Don’t tell anyone but it was quite emotional.

The final whistle sounded, the Scousers erupted and a female steward offered a helpful piece of advice to get my lad out of the ground as quickly as possible in case of any mither. This was the third time in half an hour she’d gone out of her way to be nice. She’d already told George (my son) that she wanted us to win the league and not to be too down if City lost the match. We left the ground and walked back around to the Kop, met John and had a pleasant stroll back to the car.

I found Anfield to be one of the most enjoyable matchday experiences of my City watching career. The place is traditional, hostile and steeped in history. The home fans are ridiculously blinkered whenever there is a refereeing decision to be made but maybe that’s why they seem to recieve more decisions than away teams at Anfield.

All in all, I walked away from Liverpool with a revised view of the club. Maybe a few feral youths who attach themselves to the club drag the name of Liverpool through the mud. Maybe the club, from top to bottom, could have handled the Suarez affair a lot better.

Let’s not tarnish the reputation of an entire stadium full of people because of the misguided actions of a minority though. For once, I’m going to rise above the Scouse bashing and form my own opinions of the club and on Wednesday night’s evidence, it’s a great place to watch football.

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Re: De-Panning the Scouse
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2012, 01:06:25 AM »
That John C is a right c*nt isn't he. You'd of thunk he would of blew the manc up.

And calling a kid George, the tight bastard.

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Re: De-Panning the Scouse
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2012, 01:10:29 AM »
What a load of shite.
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Re: De-Panning the Scouse
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2012, 01:11:52 AM »
Not sure it's the right forum.
But the only singing for 10 minutes after a goal I think he meant 2 minutes and City as opposed to us, was pretty much non stop in the kop.


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Re: De-Panning the Scouse
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2012, 01:14:52 AM »
The soft shite, makes it out like he was attempting to infiltrate a drug cartel in downtown Bogota.

Edit.. Singing at the start and after a goal? Ehh? Must of had his earmuffs on.
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Re: De-Panning the Scouse
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2012, 01:20:36 AM »
Shame. So much thought wasted. What a load of arse.

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Re: De-Panning the Scouse
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2012, 01:22:11 AM »
What a load of crap I thought it was going to be good.

But it was a case look at me I'm so brave I made it in and back home again without trouble in that cauldron of hate and racism.

Oh and they were shite last night don't believe what you heard on the TV.

Best left on a Man City site I think where they can all slap him on the back for being so brave.

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Re: De-Panning the Scouse
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2012, 01:24:27 AM »
We stopped at a pub imaginatively called “The Twelfth Man”

I scanned the pub to try to spot the first flying pint glass. Nothing. Not a clenched fist raised in anger.

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Re: De-Panning the Scouse
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2012, 01:26:49 AM »
This guy should apply for the MI6 or CIA... With his skills, he might be able to infiltrate into the L qaeda....

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Re: De-Panning the Scouse
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2012, 01:29:17 AM »
The biggest laugh is that he thought he was gonna get battered if someone caught sight of him in a city shirt.........when he's got a kid with him. Even if it were just him the most that would happen is he might get told to fuck off  :shocked however would he cope with the drama? The guy strikes me as a grade A fucking quilt.
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Re: De-Panning the Scouse
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2012, 01:29:44 AM »
i think he was just trying to highlight the stereotypes and negative things people say about anfield and liverpool fans (without necessarily believing them beforehand himself) when he was talking in such dramatics about the impending experience, and then going on to say he didn't really find them to be true for the most part.  fair enough to the fella, i say.  most of the things he's said which you guys are quoting came across strongly as jokes to me.
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Re: De-Panning the Scouse
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2012, 01:31:10 AM »
People who throw stones shouldn't live in council glass houses.

Still gutted abar John C, what a let down......
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Re: De-Panning the Scouse
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2012, 01:32:27 AM »
i think he was just trying

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Re: De-Panning the Scouse
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2012, 01:37:24 AM »
The biggest laugh is that he thought he was gonna get battered if someone caught sight of him in a city shirt.........when he's got a kid with him. Even if it were just him the most that would happen is he might get told to fuck off  :shocked however would he cope with the drama? The guy strikes me as a grade A fucking quilt.

I've seen loads of away fans taking picture of the Shanks Statue and no one even gives then a 2nd look.

I may be lucky the only seen one bit of trouble outside the ground after we played Chelsea and there was about 5 Chelsea fans giving it large and people were just walking past them taking no notice until a kid of about 7 stood in front of them and started to sing "You've got no history" at the top of his voice at them and they didn't have a clue what to do. and they just walked off.
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Re: De-Panning the Scouse
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2012, 02:08:07 AM »
cant believe how out of touch the rest of them are when it comes to us.
the climate changed round here after hillsborough.
when are they all gonna catch up.... embarrassing really
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Re: De-Panning the Scouse
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2012, 02:13:08 AM »
oh hang on, that articles dated 1984...
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Re: De-Panning the Scouse
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2012, 02:48:09 AM »
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Re: De-Panning the Scouse
« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2012, 03:18:45 AM »
Probably speaks more for how I view the world, but I assumed almost everything he wrote was done with tongue placed reasonably far into his cheek.
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Re: De-Panning the Scouse
« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2012, 03:32:55 AM »
Probably speaks more for how I view the world, but I assumed almost everything he wrote was done with tongue placed reasonably far into his cheek.

sums up more concisely what i was trying to say earlier

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Re: De-Panning the Scouse
« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2012, 04:02:44 AM »
Why'd you post that?

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Re: De-Panning the Scouse
« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2012, 04:26:28 AM »
Some of the responses in here are pretty harsh. He exaggerated the stereotypes to draw more attention to the truth. More quality in that blog post than in any of the shite I've read in the papers since Rafa turned up.
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Re: De-Panning the Scouse
« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2012, 04:37:41 AM »
Didn't read that, but is it just me or have City fans just turned directions in how they act? I mean, there's heaps of glory hunters (though they've only won the FA cup atm) but they seem to be acting like the red side of Manchester by picking up their arrogance. :-\
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Re: De-Panning the Scouse
« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2012, 06:24:51 AM »
Thought it was a decent piece to be honest which did highlight the reality against the perception real or imagined of many people/fans certainly from Manchester.

Don't know how old his kid was, but would you honestly take your kid to a semi at Old Trafford and not plan it with a bit more care than usual, not because the majority of Utd fans would beat you up, rather beacause there is a good chance some of ours and theirs would at some point engage in some naughtiness.

The same applies for Saturday at Anfield, I'm sure there will be many on both sides who alter what they do due to the potential for a few idiots to cause trouble. For those who say it doesn't happen any more google or youtube "battle of everton valley 2005"

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Re: De-Panning the Scouse
« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2012, 06:42:36 AM »
Well I enjoyed it anyway. Nice piece that.
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Re: De-Panning the Scouse
« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2012, 06:55:31 AM »
Haha fucking hell, what a brave man.

Remember after the Napoli game, the number of away fans who walked roound to the kop and into the club shop was quite incredible.
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Re: De-Panning the Scouse
« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2012, 07:47:59 AM »
Haha fucking hell, what a brave man.

Remember after the Napoli game, the number of away fans who walked roound to the kop and into the club shop was quite incredible.

They are fucking lunatics though.
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Re: De-Panning the Scouse
« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2012, 07:50:23 AM »
Probably speaks more for how I view the world, but I assumed almost everything he wrote was done with tongue placed reasonably far into his cheek.
Some of it was....like...

"the two thirty something thugs to my right"

"the cauldron of hate known as Anfield Road"

Taking the piss out of our stereotyped image, (and therefore taking the piss out of himself as he pretty much admits he was a bellend to believe some of it himself)...but he has changed his opinion, so fair enough. Thought it was honest and enjoyable.
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Re: De-Panning the Scouse
« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2012, 09:09:20 AM »
Some of it was....like...

"the two thirty something thugs to my right"

"the cauldron of hate known as Anfield Road"

Taking the piss out of our stereotyped image, (and therefore taking the piss out of himself as he pretty much admits he was a bellend to believe some of it himself)...but he has changed his opinion, so fair enough. Thought it was honest and enjoyable.

Spot on, he was playing up to the stereotypes that the City fans who'd be reading it have, and concluded by sayin, dont be guided by media etc make your own mind up.

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Re: De-Panning the Scouse
« Reply #28 on: January 27, 2012, 09:25:22 AM »
There was a load of City fans wearing colours in xxxxxxxxx before the game. Did anybody give a fuck? No. They had a few drinks and went the game. What was this bloke expecting?

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Re: De-Panning the Scouse
« Reply #29 on: January 27, 2012, 09:38:46 AM »
He's putting that forward to be new the Ross Kemp.

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Re: De-Panning the Scouse
« Reply #30 on: January 27, 2012, 10:09:29 AM »
Thought it was alright myself.

He admits he mis-judged us and fair play to him for that

Thought bits of it were pretty funny, to be honest

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Re: De-Panning the Scouse
« Reply #31 on: January 27, 2012, 10:10:29 AM »
Didn't read that, but is it just me or have City fans just turned directions in how they act? I mean, there's heaps of glory hunters (though they've only won the FA cup atm) but they seem to be acting like the red side of Manchester by picking up their arrogance. :-\

Didn't read that as arrogant at all. Self-deprecating if anything

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Re: De-Panning the Scouse
« Reply #32 on: January 27, 2012, 10:16:16 AM »
I think a lot of people are being seriously whooshed in this thread. He's taking the piss and debunking hyped up bullshit. Good on him and quite an enjoyable peice to read.
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Re: De-Panning the Scouse
« Reply #33 on: January 27, 2012, 10:18:24 AM »
Didn't read that as arrogant at all. Self-deprecating if anything

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Re: De-Panning the Scouse
« Reply #34 on: January 27, 2012, 10:18:50 AM »
Same.

Great article from a mature football fan with a kid attending a big game at an away venue with an undeserved reputation. 

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« Reply #35 on: January 27, 2012, 10:23:35 AM »
I enjoyed that. Bit odd, but a decent read nonetheless. Z:)
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Re: De-Panning the Scouse
« Reply #36 on: January 27, 2012, 10:28:11 AM »
I'd expect something like this to be written in the Daily Mail or the Mirror - doesn't exactly shed us in a good light.

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Re: De-Panning the Scouse
« Reply #37 on: January 27, 2012, 10:33:01 AM »
nothing wrong with that article at all. paints his experience in an entirely positive light compared with the absolute shite he'd heard about coming to anfield/our fans beforehand.
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Re: De-Panning the Scouse
« Reply #38 on: January 27, 2012, 10:35:05 AM »
I enjoyed it and thought it was a good piece.  Don't see why people are getting shirty about an article that is trying to debunk some of the stereotypes surrounding Liverpool supporters

A lot of supporters (from whichever club) stereotype opposition fans and like it or not Liverpool supporters have an identity out in the big wide world. Can anyone really disagree with " Reading the reaction of some rival fans, stepping into Liverpool would be akin to attending a ‘Warriors’ like gang warfare meeting with the Nogzy, the Crocky Crew, Combat 18 and the Ku Klux Klan all in attendance."? 

You only have to step onto some of the rival teams forums to hear comments that support that outlook. along with the 'fact' that your car will probably be missing its tyres unless you pay to have it looked after.

Those ideas are firmly debunked in this article and it is good to see.

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Re: De-Panning the Scouse
« Reply #39 on: January 27, 2012, 10:37:34 AM »
Oh SHIT.....our 'atmosphere' has been accurately rumbled for what it is....[or what it has rather sadly become]

I've long been hoping that we ourselves would spot this [and make amends to rectify it]..before others begun to realise it!!

Basically, the author is saying that Anfield's atmosphere is scripted and reactionary rather than rousing and spontaneous...

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When injury time is almost up and the game looks to be in the bag, a rousing rendition of “You’ll Never Walk Alone” is aired.."

I still say " Fuck him..." but deep down, I know there's some rather uncomfortable truth in this jibe...

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