Topic: Slow Moving Transfer Topic. No Tevez, Cavani or Carroll Bollocks. No Jim White.

[thelinnen]

I don't know if Gerrard was told to play in deep midfield yesterday or if he can't play off the striker every week anymore but if it's a case of the latter then

                Lucas

                Gerrard 

Bellamy    xxxxxxxx      Suarez
 
              Carroll

We need an attacking midfielder. There is absolutely no one in that squad who seems capable of receiving a pass in that position and playing it through to the striker.

I refuse to pass judgement on Carroll until he has someone playing off him every week. I think we should give up on wingers as whoever we buy seems to be forget how to play as soon as they come here. Preferably this new guy should be able to take corners as well as I hope Adam will not be here at the start of next season.

[Chalky Boots]

That has to be a contradiction. The 1st team has to be picked from a squad. If the 1st team is light in quality, then the squad must be.

It's not, we have squad players currently filling the starting 11, in retrospect to Benitez's time here we had a great starting 11 but no depth after that. All in all both of those sides lack/lacked the other element to it.

[Aristotle]

Play nice and for the love of all things holy, enough of these fishing posts.

[PIPA23]

I don't know if Gerrard was told to play in deep midfield yesterday or if he can't play off the striker every week anymore but if it's a case of the latter then

                Lucas

                Gerrard 

Bellamy    xxxxxxxx      Suarez
 
              Carroll

We need an attacking midfielder. There is absolutely no one in that squad who seems capable of receiving a pass in that position and playing it through to the striker.

I refuse to pass judgement on Carroll until he has someone playing off him every week. I think we should give up on wingers as whoever we buy seems to be forget how to play as soon as they come here. Preferably this new guy should be able to take corners as well as I hope Adam will not be here at the start of next season.

Dempsey from Fulham would fit there.. he is great imho.

[tdogssc]

you know he's American, right? 

[Baz Smythe]

I'm fed up of us signing squad players and being linked with squad players that are no better than what we already have. There are numerous world class talents at clubs smaller than ours on wages less than what we could give them I don't see why we just don't go for them.

[Acaustiq]

Because we're Liverpool and that makes way too much sense.

[dnkw]

I'm fed up of us signing squad players and being linked with squad players that are no better than what we already have. There are numerous world class talents at clubs smaller than ours on wages less than what we could give them I don't see why we just don't go for them.

Quite a statement - care to name them?

[gazzathered]

Dempsey

[Baz Smythe]

Quite a statement - care to name them?

Cavani, Hamsik, di natale, de Rossi, Martinez, Llorente, Hulk, Falcao, Rossi off the top of my head. I know there are people on these boards who know a lot more about football worldwide than I do that could list about 4-5 times more than that.

[Chalky Boots]

Quite a statement - care to name them?

Moussa Dembele
Joe Allen
James Forrest
Possibly James McCarthy
Rodrigo at Benfica
Maybe Hoilett
Shaqiri
Ayew

And there's probably many many more.

[SkinHimHesShite]

Moussa Dembele
Joe Allen
James Forrest
Possibly James McCarthy
Rodrigo at Benfica
Maybe Hoilett
Shaqiri
Ayew

And there's probably many many more.

I'm sorry these are supposed to be world class players?

Cavani, Hamsik, di natale, de Rossi, Martinez, Llorente, Hulk, Falcao, Rossi off the top of my head. I know there are people on these boards who know a lot more about football worldwide than I do that could list about 4-5 times more than that.

Comolli should go to Napoli and leave them with 60 million, kuyt, maxi and aquilani, and come home with Hamsik, Cavani & Lavezzi.

he won't though.

[sirjames]

Cavani, Hamsik, di natale, de Rossi, Martinez, Llorente, Hulk, Falcao, Rossi off the top of my head. I know there are people on these boards who know a lot more about football worldwide than I do that could list about 4-5 times more than that.

Most of them are 35million pound players

[Acaustiq]

Cavani, Hamsik, di natale, de Rossi, Martinez, Llorente, Hulk, Falcao, Rossi off the top of my head. I know there are people on these boards who know a lot more about football worldwide than I do that could list about 4-5 times more than that.

Oh, I was thinking more in terms of 'vaugely realistic'.

Wouldn't want most of them either way to be honest.

[Carlito Roberto]

Moussa Dembele
Joe Allen
James Forrest
Possibly James McCarthy
Rodrigo at Benfica
Maybe Hoilett
Shaqiri
Ayew

And there's probably many many more.

World class 

[Baz Smythe]

Most of them are 35million pound players

That's what Comolli is for, negotiating. We also have owners who have plenty of money, we have a massive kit and sponsorship deals in place, we're one of the most famous clubs in the world I don't see the problem.

[Chalky Boots]

I'm sorry these are supposed to be world class players?

Comolli should go to Napoli and leave them with 60 million, kuyt, maxi and aquilani, and come home with Hamsik, Cavani & Lavezzi.

he won't though.

When he said world class talents I imagined he was on about younger players who can become world class.

Clearly wrong.


And wouldn't pay 10m for Hamsik, vastly overrated footballer.

[Cid]

Most of them are 35million pound players

Maybe their clubs will do a swap for Carroll? 

It's clear we need a signing for centre mid and striker.

In the middle I'd like to see someone like Tiote, diarra, sissoko, Bodmer, palacios, m'vila. 

Up front I'd be happy with players like bent, adebayor, Soldado, de natale, lisandro, sow.

There are players out there we can realistically target.
We NEED these 2 positions strengthened or 4th is gone.

[Baz Smythe]

Oh, I was thinking more in terms of 'vaugely realistic'.

Wouldn't want most of them either way to be honest.

They're the only ones I could think of off top of my head, didn't even start on the German, French or Dutch leagues. I'm just saying what's the point in being one of the biggest clubs in the world and having all this money to be linked with average players who play  for average clubs.

[Barefoot Doctor]

They're the only ones I could think of off top of my head, didn't even start on the German, French or Dutch leagues. I'm just saying what's the point in being one of the biggest clubs in the world and having all this money to be linked with average players who play  for average clubs.

I think Kenny likes the idea of a 'working class' type side. No real superstars, just a team that is better than the sum of its parts.

[Cid]

They're the only ones I could think of off top of my head, didn't even start on the German, French or Dutch leagues. I'm just saying what's the point in being one of the biggest clubs in the world and having all this money to be linked with average players who play  for average clubs.

If we don't make any signings in January I think its safe to assune the money can.be referred to in past tense.

We HAD some money.  We spent it on mediocre players.

[oddball]

Play nice and for the love of all things holy, enough of these fishing posts.

What did I miss, and is any of that aimed at me?

[jpkokko]

They're the only ones I could think of off top of my head, didn't even start on the German, French or Dutch leagues. I'm just saying what's the point in being one of the biggest clubs in the world and having all this money to be linked with average players who play  for average clubs.

But there isn't any realistic player in your list; maybe di Natale, but he is already 34 years old...

[blacksun]

I think Kenny likes the idea of a 'working class' type side. No real superstars, just a team that is better than the sum of its parts.

Unfortunately that just makes me think of the likes Stoke, Newcastle or Fulham.

[oddball]

I think Kenny likes the idea of a 'working class' type side. No real superstars, just a team that is better than the sum of its parts.

Now? I ask as he signed Barnes and Beardsley, and you wouldnt say they were working class types.

[Baz Smythe]

Unfortunately that just makes me think of the likes Stoke, Newcastle or Fulham.

Exactly.

[Chalky Boots]

World class 

In a few years they will be.

[Acaustiq]

They're the only ones I could think of off top of my head, didn't even start on the German, French or Dutch leagues. I'm just saying what's the point in being one of the biggest clubs in the world and having all this money to be linked with average players who play  for average clubs.

Ten, eight, five years ago I'd agree.

But the unfortunate fact is we've pissed about too many times on young top tier talents over that period (Ronaldo, Aguero, Silva, Mata, Falcao, Martinez, etc) that we're not in a position to attract that level of player any more, particularly with psg/city/chelsea/malaga/etc around.

What we can do is find the Suarez/Alonso/Villa's of the world - players who come to fruition around 22/23 and pass under the 'big money' radar.

They're out there, you just have to know how and where to look.

[Baz Smythe]

Ten, eight, five years ago I'd agree.

But the unfortunate fact is we've pissed about too many times on young top tier talents over that period (Ronaldo, Aguero, Silva, Mata, Falcao, Martinez, etc) that we're not in a position to attract that level of player any more, particularly with psg/city/chelsea/malaga/etc around.

What we can do is find the Suarez/Alonso/Villa's of the world - players who come to fruition around 22/23 and pass under the 'big money' radar.

They're out there, you just have to know how and where to look.

I disagree, this is another job what Comolli is for. Selling the club to the player, sell the fact that if they come then we will be in the champions league. Falcao went to Atlético in the summer they have no CL football. Meireles came to us from Porto when they had it and we didn't. It can be done, it's not as easy as City just going here's 30 mil and here's 150k wages but it can be done

[Acaustiq]

Atletico had Aguero's fee and salary to give him, we've pissed huge sums away on the white Heskey and the left sided Pennant.

Meireles was in the last year of his deal at Porto and promised big money after the first year here, he didn't get it so he left.

I do think the CL thing is overplayed, fuck knows it didn't make any difference when we were in it.

We can either be smarter or we can be first and judging by the players we haven't signed over the years, it's not going to be the latter.

[thelinnen]

Cavani, Hamsik, di natale, de Rossi, Martinez, Llorente, Hulk, Falcao, Rossi off the top of my head. I know there are people on these boards who know a lot more about football worldwide than I do that could list about 4-5 times more than that.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

On that other post I would definitely take Joe Allen and Shaqiri though.

[Matt8Pie]

FreddieBoswell7 Christian
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@sak37_ Liverpool finding it hard it do deals.Hard to find clubs willing to sell quality players in Jan window.

[Adeemo]

FreddieBoswell7 Christian
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@sak37_ Liverpool finding it hard it do deals.Hard to find clubs willing to sell quality players in Jan window.

Really? Now that is surprising.

[Feorax]

I will be very surprised if we do any business this month. 9 days left and not a solid link in sight.


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[Barefoot Doctor]

I will be very surprised if we do any business this month. 9 days left and not a solid link in sight.


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I am here: http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=53.282979,-2.958296

We did Carroll in a day. Admittedly it helps when you pay over the odds, but deals can be done - however late.

At least, if Freddie Boswell is correct, we're looking at quality players!

[killer_heels]

FreddieBoswell7 Christian
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@sak37_ Liverpool finding it hard it do deals.Hard to find clubs willing to sell quality players in Jan window.

I think it is encouraging if we are looking to try to sign quality players.

Then again, depends on what you class as quality.

[MolbyLovesGravy]

Quality simply means their club does not want to sell the player at all or only at an inflated price. Blackpool did not want to sell Adam last year in Jan because he was a quality player for them.
We are looking to get players at decent prices, and that is close to impossible in January. However if we are serious and patient some club might change their stance on deadline day or just before.
I think if we do any business, other than kids, it will be dependant on the other club blinking or a player wanting us enough to demand a transfer.

[runkerry1]

I'm still bemused as to why we think we're going to grab a bargain 'star/quality' player in the January window, when most of the top clubs don't bother trying and wait till the summer...? Why should we think have a chance in improving the squad, when we know that better deals can be had during the summer window. As far as I can see, top 4 is going out of reach with every week that goes by, that we should now be trying to blood some of the younger/youth players, as other teams do when they aren't in contention to win anything.
We seem to be reluctant to loan out the better reserve (non 1st team) players, yet also not let them get first team opportunities, a la United & Arsenal do, when their first squad is thin on the ground.. You never know it may also act as a wake-up call to some those who expect a guaranteed spot in the team week-in week-out, who are handsomely paid for the privilege to wear our shirt!

[Barefoot Doctor]

I'm still bemused as to why we think we're going to grab a bargain 'star/quality' player in the January window, when most of the top clubs don't bother trying and wait till the summer...?

We did it last January. Suarez wasn't cheap at £22m, but he was a bargain. So getting a good player and not getting bent over in the process is possible, albeit unlikely.

[Beninger]

Well, Suarez will be back before we know it, so if we were going to sign cover it should've been 4 matches ago.  Not that we won't sign a striker, I just think the closer we get to his return the less and less we'll be looking for one.  Hope I'm wrong, because Andy is on bad form, and we need someone to come in for him so he sorts himself out one way or another.  Maybe, a winger who can beat someone and a DM will be on the cards.  Either way, I hope they're proven talent to slot into a battle to start matches, or great prospects.  We have our squad already.