Author Topic: Liverpool 0-0 Stoke: Full time.... (Read 44589 times)

BarryCrocker · « **Reply #120 on:** January 14, 2012, 05:06:19 PM »

If Hodgson had have gone out and put that team/tactics out there today he’d be would be murdered on here.

Juan Loco · « **Reply #121 on:** January 14, 2012, 05:06:26 PM »

Quote from: BazC on January 14, 2012, 05:05:04 PM

How many games before Suarez is back now?!

Ban is half done.

Today was the first time we've really missed him for me.

stevieG786 · « **Reply #122 on:** January 14, 2012, 05:06:27 PM »

I give up with us getting top 4 now.

Pathetic.

Foster · « **Reply #123 on:** January 14, 2012, 05:06:27 PM »

This is what you get when you buy English attackers I suppose. No flair, no creativity, nothing just boring overrated players.

Gazza-LFC · « **Reply #124 on:** January 14, 2012, 05:06:33 PM »

Not good enough we will not get 4th place unless something miraculous happens. I hope Kenny has a bloody good plan.

Lo Pan · « **Reply #125 on:** January 14, 2012, 05:06:33 PM »

Quote from: gypsymoth on January 14, 2012, 05:04:12 PM

Time to get real people...

-- Kenny / Steve need their arses smacked for the bizarre formation / tactics AT HOME TO FACKING STOKE. What is it? Is it fear or is it an arrogance that says "yeah, we'll play kuyt up front - he'll be alright to score a few against this lot"?

Or is it the exact same formation, with Kuyt up front again, that we used last season at home against them when everyone praised the performance? Yes, indeed it is.

The players just didn't execute it well today.

Nick110581 · « **Reply #126 on:** January 14, 2012, 05:06:40 PM »

Won't be any posts of sense in here with all the knee jerkers out there.

Hardaway · « **Reply #127 on:** January 14, 2012, 05:06:42 PM »

Quote from: Kopite72 on January 14, 2012, 05:04:42 PM

Anymore need saying?

A perfect summary of this season....

DonkeyWan · « **Reply #128 on:** January 14, 2012, 05:06:43 PM »

Too many poor players, too many poor buys...

*sigh*

DISAPPOINTED

*double sigh*

Anyway, at least Coates started.

GorstStreetBoy · « **Reply #129 on:** January 14, 2012, 05:06:45 PM »

At least in the previous home draws we created a hatful of chances. From the off it was difficult to see where a goal was gonna come from. Some great long passing from Adam invariably followed by no quality in the final third. Downing is a waste of space.

Redd Foxx · « **Reply #130 on:** January 14, 2012, 05:06:47 PM »

The problem with that set up is that it requires incisive runs from a sharp knife of a frontman, and I'm afraid Kuyt at this point is a spoon.

Some may complain about Webb, but we deserved nothing more than what we got. Frustrating.

Crackerjack Sam · « **Reply #131 on:** January 14, 2012, 05:06:53 PM »

Quote from: Stevie93 on January 14, 2012, 05:04:27 PM

Liverpool's style of football is absolutely atrocious. No movement, nobody attacks the space, every attacking move is plodding and mechanical, and totally predictable and easy to defend against. We play the worst football in the league relative to the quality of players we have.

On the plus side, the defence remains watertight, mainly thanks to Skrtel who has become absolutely commanding in the air.

sinnermichael · « **Reply #132 on:** January 14, 2012, 05:06:55 PM »

come this time tomorrow we'll be behind newcastle. hooray.

i'm off to get incredibly drunk

RivaGe · « **Reply #133 on:** January 14, 2012, 05:06:56 PM »

I hate home games this season. And Kenny, we definitely need to spend to fight for top four.

-Willo- · « **Reply #134 on:** January 14, 2012, 05:06:59 PM »

Kenny Dalglish - what the fuck was you thinking when you picked this team, formation and tactics?

It was fucking Stoke City, not Barcelona at the nou camp, why start with some random 5-3-1-1 formation or whatever it was, why did you change the team SO much, and why did you play SO defensively, also why do you persist with Downing when everytime he plays he doesn't do shit, and why do you persist on leaving Maxi on the bench, why did you play Kuyt upfront on his own - a man who ain't scored in the league ALL SEASON, why, fuck sake yes the players were utter shite today and they take a lot of the blame today, but you cannot fail to criticize Kenny for the way he set us up and had us playing today, that was utter shite and now we are 5 points off 4th, could be 7th by Monday, and have the likes of Stoke breathing down our necks in the league.

Absolutely fucking gutted.

lfcls7 · « **Reply #135 on:** January 14, 2012, 05:07:02 PM »

fuck off stoke
fuck off pulis
fuck off howard webb
fuck off 5 at the back
fuck off stoke
fuck off stokes fans
fuck off stoke

fuck IN some new players....
...
fuck off stoke

im off out to get lashed

garumn · « **Reply #136 on:** January 14, 2012, 05:07:03 PM »

Least surprising result of the season, exactly what expected.

Samee · « **Reply #137 on:** January 14, 2012, 05:07:03 PM »

The team selection was abysmal. How can we let Stoke of all clubs dictate the way we play? THEY should be worried about how WE are going to play. 5 at the back at home against Stoke with an out-of-form, past-it Dirk Kuyt up top. Just.... ugh.

Discipline · « **Reply #138 on:** January 14, 2012, 05:07:05 PM »

We've had too many "off games" if we're serious about top four. :\

Still believe we'll make it if we win the Carling Cup though. We have Bolton and someone else before Suarez is available again for the PL. Really need to get 6 points out of them. 2 games out of the top four atm, and our goal difference isn't going to help us at all.

Ultimate Bromance · « **Reply #139 on:** January 14, 2012, 05:07:07 PM »

Garbage. While you can argue it's the change in formation, or personnel, for me we are just mentally weak as a football side when it comes to the business on the park. We don't commit enough men forward when we should - in most games, today they had 7 or 8 players defending for most of the match and yet until Andy came on, the most we had going forward was about 4. Indicative of a team that lacks confidence in itself. Doesn't help that we have several players woefully out of form/simply not good enough.

Sad to say, but the next two weeks determine whether or not fourth is well and truly out of sight, and I'm not even talking about results. We need to buy at least 1, probably 2 creative attacking players in this window, to try and address this issue, because this current make-up is absolutely not good enough to score enough goals and win enough games to catch up to the teams ahead, and I think even with Suarez back we're still relying on good fortune to get back into Europe. A bleak reality-check after the Man City result.

DutchRed · « **Reply #140 on:** January 14, 2012, 05:07:07 PM »

Quote from: Zelnaga on January 14, 2012, 05:05:56 PM

Its over half the season and we are still waiting?

People cant really complain about Stoke. What they did to us, we did to Man City, we simply dont have the quality to break down Stoke and Kenny? You got it wrong ...... badly wrong.

What should Kenny have done with the players available?

Didi_ram · « **Reply #141 on:** January 14, 2012, 05:07:12 PM »

Quote from: BarryCrocker on January 14, 2012, 05:06:19 PM

If Hodgson had have gone out and put that team/tactics out there today he’d be would be murdered on here.

krispy.red · « **Reply #142 on:** January 14, 2012, 05:07:26 PM »

Hard for Carroll to score when he's laying on the ground the whole time. Too clumsy and not tough enough.

PowderKeg · « **Reply #143 on:** January 14, 2012, 05:07:26 PM »

Not even shocked to be honest....basically the only way we get 4th is if Chelsea and Arsenal continue to fuck up. And somehow I doubt they will drop more points then us at home.

If we played Top 4 teams all season we'd probably do better then playing the rest because we never seem up for these games, and that's pretty damning.

theCanadian · « **Reply #144 on:** January 14, 2012, 05:07:27 PM »

We didn't quite have the personnel to win that one in the way we were trying to. I don't think any of the players played horrendously poorly compared to what you'd expect of them. Tactically we should've set up a little different, and started flooding players forward earlier in the game that in the final 15 minutes.

Overall it was a depressingly limp performance. One of our worst this season. Dean Sturridge accurately pointed out that normally we've had frustrating home draws wherein we've failed to finish good chances we've created for ourselves. Today we hardly even tested their goalkeeper. Pretty worrying, although Stoke are brilliant at defending with 9 men in their box.

shelovesyou · « **Reply #145 on:** January 14, 2012, 05:07:27 PM »

Quote from: Refo on January 14, 2012, 05:05:32 PM

I miss Rafa.

Well when he gets another job go and support them

m4Rco · « **Reply #146 on:** January 14, 2012, 05:07:35 PM »

Thats Liverpool for you. The mighty big club killers yet they struggle against lower teams, sigh. I still love this club.

Skrtel MOTM for me, the lad developed into such a complete defender. Very nice headers from him.

-Q- · « **Reply #147 on:** January 14, 2012, 05:07:36 PM »

We were awful. Woeful. Dreadful.

As was the ref - how you can spot the pulling, tugging, yanking that Stoke get up to, warn them and then ignore it is beyond me.

Robbie_9 · « **Reply #148 on:** January 14, 2012, 05:07:36 PM »

Where has the big bad wolf that was Andy Carroll at NFC gone?

Why cant he just start bullying people like he did.

rob1408 · « **Reply #149 on:** January 14, 2012, 05:07:42 PM »

Kenny has to shoulder a lot of the blame for that, why he felt the need to play three centre-backs against that attack is beyond me. This season has been extremely frustrating, up until the final third we're one of the tidiest sides in the league, but we're also probably one of the least creative. We're desperately missing Suarez as we haven't got an attacking player close to his level.

Coates, Skrtel, both fullbacks and Adam are the only ones to come out of that with any credit in my opinion.

Red_Mist · « **Reply #150 on:** January 14, 2012, 05:07:43 PM »

Stoke defended like their lives depended on it, and credit to them for that. Probably could played another 3 hours and not scored.

Frustrating as hell that. Bring on Bolton. Should be another 'fun' game.

Nick110581 · « **Reply #151 on:** January 14, 2012, 05:07:48 PM »

Quote from: Juan Loco on January 14, 2012, 05:06:26 PM

Ban is half done.

Today was the first time we've really missed him for me.

Agree. He offers something different.

Thought Downing was appalling again and he cost TWENTY million. He doesn't seem to have any belief.

lindylou100 · « **Reply #152 on:** January 14, 2012, 05:07:50 PM »

ok its time to give rafa a call for tactical advice. I really dont know why we were so defensive against sodding stoke considering we had so much possession!

Kochevnik · « **Reply #153 on:** January 14, 2012, 05:07:56 PM »

Yikes.

I didn't get too worried over some of the previous bad home results, because we were creating chances and it looked like it would eventually come together. But that, ... that was really poor.

I'm struggling to think of a really good chance, apart from that one Kuyt header wide. I thought we should have shot the ball more often; they were giving our attackers 2 yards of space 20-25 yards out, and I thought Gerrard in particular was going to make them pay for it. Instead he had a go, missed, and then seemed to decide not to do it any more. We were never going to Barcelona our way through the 8 men they had standing on the 18 yard line every time we had the ball.

To sum up: we were poor. Not just with our execution, which has been the problem thus far in the season, but tactically. I still thought we'd win when I saw the team sheet, but my confidence was way down from what it was before I saw it.

Scribble8 · « **Reply #154 on:** January 14, 2012, 05:08:05 PM »

Well, we didn't lose and I guess that was a huge part of our gameplan if you look at the lineup and the way we played. It's good to not lose but when you're trying to get into the top-4 which I assume is our target, or am I completely overvaluaing our team?

I think it's clear we need to make changes in management, there's no structure whatsoever and most of our players isn't good enough to win games individually. I can't believe how swiftly things have changed, under Rafa we one almost every singel home game against the poor sides with ease.

Terrible day and we're far off fourth place right now. We badly needs Suarez and Lucas in the team.

neel2108 · « **Reply #155 on:** January 14, 2012, 05:08:14 PM »

Quote from: RyanBabel19 on January 14, 2012, 04:56:46 PM

match was frustrating, boring and annoying but not suprised in the slightest

nothing more to say

Quote from: Siannn. on January 14, 2012, 04:57:32 PM

Well, that was utterly fucking abysmal. Getting used to it now, mind.

Seven draws at Anfield now. Someone's due a battering, etcetera.

I'm away to watch Jurassic Park

Oldham got that battering. It's gone now.

staalpete · « **Reply #156 on:** January 14, 2012, 05:08:18 PM »

Quote from: Camarero25 on January 14, 2012, 05:03:57 PM

We'll fucking batter someone soon.

off course we will, so what? doesnt change anything..

swampy · « **Reply #157 on:** January 14, 2012, 05:08:24 PM »

Quote from: Cusamano on January 14, 2012, 04:55:43 PM

Fucking shit

Fuck of.

Couldnt agree more, henderson was rubbish and downing slow with passes and movement. Adam couple of hollywood passes but then everything else is short or back and when he doesnt have the ball he doesnt run on beyond it to create movement between the lines he stops and waits 5 yards inside which gives us know option.
Dirk thanks for the service but please find someone who can hit a barn door
Its 15th of January the window has been open for 2 weeks and we have known we'd be missing suarez possibly why isnt the striker signed yet, we are throwing away points and the CL place which will cost us more money then if they just hurried up and did it. Surely we have identified someone otherwise whats comolli being doing other than getting suarez into trouble so if we know who we want and we've started discussions when we identified them first day of the window it should have been done instead we'll overpay again in the back end of the window and have chucked away 6 or so points which will sink us again this year.
Get it sorted guys FFS

DG · « **Reply #158 on:** January 14, 2012, 05:08:25 PM »

Quote from: BarryCrocker on January 14, 2012, 05:06:19 PM

If Hodgson had have gone out and put that team/tactics out there today he’d be would be murdered on here.

Yeah. And what would you say Dalglish is being right now?

It was Dalglish's fault. No one reasonable is denying it, and he deservedly gets criticized for it.

Zaffarious · « **Reply #159 on:** January 14, 2012, 05:08:25 PM »

i found it hillarious how webb blew exactly on 94mins. you know after a whole 90mins of time wasting by stoke. but its nothing to do with the ref today.

its all about how slow we are. we have no attacking players bar stevie and luis who can beat a man. NOBODY. its terrible. sell downing now before we lose anymore money on him. bring in someone who is a) fast and can b) take on a man. i dont care who but we have enough grafters, we need some flair on the flanks.

tactics were all wrong as well. 5 at the back, with nobody in the air to make use of the crosses from the wing? kuyt couldnt hold up a ball with glue stuck to his feet today. woeful. i mean that was our worst performence this season by a long way.

and please lets not have people knocking stoke after we did the exact same at city midweek.