Topic: 2012 formula 1 thread

[gazzalfc]

So, Schumi got a five-place grid drop at Monaco.  How does everyone else see the incident?

Personally thought it was a racing incident. But if you were to punish anyone it would be Schumi for his indecisiveness.

A perfect pit stop is a work of art. A perfect double pit stop is even better. Shame Mclaren haven't managed it this season

what are the 2 guys in the middle doing?

My guess would be keeping a drivers eye view of the wheels and front jack to ensure a safe release.

[StokieSteve]

what are the 2 guys in the middle doing?

Looks to me like they are there to prevent any rocking motion of the car whilst it's on the jacks. Could be wrong but that's what I reckon.

[Surprise me.]

So, Schumi got a five-place grid drop at Monaco.  How does everyone else see the incident?

I've looked at it quite a few times and nothing could be done. Schumacher couldn't have backed out and Senna did what he could to prevent an overtake. One move left and then move back and brake for the corner. That Mercedes has a lot of straight line speed and he caught the Williams super fast after getting in the slipstream. Couldn't be avoided.

what are the 2 guys in the middle doing?

That would be to balance the car. It could tip either way. Looking at it they both stick their hands into the sidepods and the engine intake. Whatever that thing is called, I always forget. That or their holding onto the camera mount.

[BCCC]

That documentary is brilliant and really sobering viewing. My dad's said before how even watching the GPs in the 70s was a wierd experience - the sport itself was incredibly exciting but he said you could never really enjoy it completely because you were always wondering in the back of your mind whether you'd see someone get killed. Think the worst thing is how many of the fatalities were completely avoidable if they had had any proper marshalling/barriers or sense of risk management. That incident with the guy in the car made out of magnesium is just sickening.

The spectator that was interviewed who said he was hoping to see some good driving and crashes summed up the attitude of acceptability. Amazing how Jackie Stewart was treated by the track owners and race authorities whilst campaigning for better driver safety.

If that's the thing that I watched a while back the ending to it really kicks you in the gut.

Heartbreaking.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8t_QzZJn7M

[Adamski7]

Want to know what setting fire to a £10 Million car and multimillion pound equipment looks like





If that car makes monaco in 2 weeks it will be a miracle

The flames themselves were nowhere near the car, i'm reliably informed.

There's no structural damage to the chassis (key thing).

[scatman]

cheers mate, so adamski can you tell us what the 2 guys above in the middle are doing? is it load balance?

[AJG]

Lewis would be about 30 points clear in the championship IMO, if Mclaren hadn't messed up so much

[jimmyjr86]

The F1 channel is showing the previous Monaco GP's in full all day. My Sunday sorted.

[Adamski7]

cheers mate, so adamski can you tell us what the 2 guys above in the middle are doing? is it load balance?

I'll have a look when i get home tonight - i can't see ant of the pictures people post in work, hosting sites are blocked. 

[HELLRAZOR]

I'll have a look when i get home tonight - i can't see ant of the pictures people post in work, hosting sites are blocked. 

good luck for the weekend mate

you boyos might be worth a bet

[scatman]

ah monaco, i love the nostalgia of the track, i hate it as a racing spectacle, hardest place to fucking overtake.

[gazzalfc]

Cant wait for the weekend. Monaco may be one of the least enjoyable tracks on paper but its Monaco and its F1 perfection.

Looks like it'll be lovely weather here too so I'll be cracking a few beers and chilling Sunday afternoon to a great race

[HELLRAZOR]

been to the track, not on a race weekend.

just on an excursion. took a bus tour around some of the track

can say i was overtaken by a ferrari on the start line in monaco

[SP]

can say i was overtaken by a ferrari on the start line in monaco

Wasn't Massa driving then.

[Surprise me.]

It's all about qualifying this week. I do love the circuit despite how boring it can turn out to be.

[HELLRAZOR]

Wasn't Massa driving then.

[gazzalfc]

Well last year was pretty exciting until it get red flagged and the teams changed all the parts on the car at the start line

[HELLRAZOR]

Well last year was pretty exciting until it get red flagged and the teams changed all the parts on the car at the start line

vettel got the biggest get out of jail card ive ever seen.

if that car went on it would have been running on axles with a few laps left

[gazzalfc]

vettel got the biggest get out of jail card ive ever seen.

if that car went on it would have been running on axles with a few laps left

Yeah. It would have been a great final few laps if they had carried on with the race.

[HELLRAZOR]

Yeah. It would have been a great final few laps if they had carried on with the race.

alonso in 2nd wasnt in much better shape from what i remember

[Slick_Beef]

been to the track, not on a race weekend.

just on an excursion. took a bus tour around some of the track

can say i was overtaken by a ferrari on the start line in monaco

Haha,  class. I would love to drive round there. They added it to google street view a couple of months ago which is the closest I will get for now!

I bloody love Monaco, despite it's flaws. I love the way it punishes drivers for a single mistake, it can really spice things up.

For anyone who has never seen it, I just thought i'd share this - the last two laps of Monaco 1982 - the greatest example of the commentator's curse I have ever seen.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/eY13ajYK5gQ?version=3&amp;amp;hl=en_GB" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/eY13ajYK5gQ?version=3&amp;amp;hl=en_GB</a>

[Surprise me.]

Was that the one where Vettel got a fresh set of tyres? He would have lost the race if it wasn't for that. Why the hell should teams get new tyres under a red flag, it's the one thing that is the teams decision. If the car breaks then yeah fine, fix the car. They didn't send a broken car out at the start of the race. They did however decide on the tyre strategy which is where teams win and lose.

[HELLRAZOR]

Was that the one where Vettel got a fresh set of tyres? He would have lost the race if it wasn't for that. Why the hell should teams get new tyres under a red flag, it's the one thing that is the teams decision. If the car breaks then yeah fine, fix the car. They didn't send a broken car out at the start of the race. They did however decide on the tyre strategy which is where teams win and lose.

yeah i tend to agree. the only way i think they should be allowed change is if the weather stops the race and for safety every team has to put on full wets

[HELLRAZOR]

Haha,  class. I would love to drive round there. They added it to google street view a couple of months ago which is the closest I will get for now!

I bloody love Monaco, despite it's flaws. I love the way it punishes drivers for a single mistake, it can really spice things up.

For anyone who has never seen it, I just thought i'd share this - the last two laps of Monaco 1982 - the greatest example of the commentator's curse I have ever seen.

the end of that is nuts

part of it you cant go on, traffic i think actually goes the opposite way of the racecars on normal days

[scatman]

we've got an F1 simulator at work as my place is one of the sponsors, got the 2nd fastest lap of the day, though it wasnt a great lap. Silverstone is a fucking hard circuit i tell ya haha. Even managed to get away with a donut in the middle of the lap. 'You must be a good driver mate' 'Dont even have a license '

[voodoo ray]

I forgot about last year's red flag shenanigans. Utter fucking joke that.

Apparently they've resurfaced the run out of the tunnel into the chicane and moved the barrier back 14 metres or so after Perez had his shunt there.

[HELLRAZOR]

Some bad accidents there over time.  Perez button wendlinger

[gazzalfc]

Interesting side story on Sunday

While we all watch the Monaco GP Rubens Barrichello will be starting in 10th place at the Indy 500. He's already had 3 races at IndyCar level so far and has been consistent (8th, 10th and 17th)

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/racing/news/20120523/indianapolis-500-rubens-barrichello/index.html

Good luck to him as we all know how dangerous that race can be

[jackh]

Interesting side story on Sunday

While we all watch the Monaco GP Rubens Barrichello will be starting in 10th place at the Indy 500. He's already had 3 races at IndyCar level so far and has been consistent (8th, 10th and 17th)

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/racing/news/20120523/indianapolis-500-rubens-barrichello/index.html

Good luck to him as we all know how dangerous that race can be

I did think of Rubens during the final few laps of the Spanish GP...wish so much he'd had the opportunity to bow out during a competitive points-scoring season.  Enjoyed his interview last year, at Interlagos - hope Sky do a Legends episode on him before long.

[voodoo ray]

Doubt I'll be watching it because I find oval racing quite boring, but I'd like to see Rubens do well.

[Surprise me.]

I don't think Indy car is oval, I've only seen one race on a stream while I was waiting for an LFC game to come on but it wasn't like Nascar. Maybe it's just that one track.

[Outer Mongolian Red]

The Indy 500 and a few other race are on ovals.

[voodoo ray]

I hope Karthethingy doesn't make the 107% this weekend. I know that's not nice but he'd be a bloody menace to everyone else.

[gazzalfc]

I hope Karthethingy doesn't make the 107% this weekend. I know that's not nice but he'd be a bloody menace to everyone else.

See I think he adds to the drama . Backmarkers around Monaco are a pain and hopefully wont let someone run away with the race

Plus the FIA will never enforce the 107% rule. Not at its showpiece event at least.

[Livo.85]

I think qualy is probably gonna be more interesting than the race.
The tyres just lose to much performance when stuck behind another car.
That's the real disappointment for me this year.

[Surprise me.]

Nouvelle chicane, lovely. Would love it to be a bit tighter, just to really test them.

[Cruiser]

Anyone having problems with BBCs live feed from Monaco practice sessions?

[voodoo ray]

Anyone having problems with BBCs live feed from Monaco practice sessions?

I was watching it at work (shhh!) and it was fine there.

[Daniel Cabbaggio]

Anyone having problems with BBCs live feed from Monaco practice sessions?

Yeah had problems earlier and my connection was fine, so ended up just streaming sky's

[Daniel Cabbaggio]

Controlled explosion on suspect package at Monaco

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/18201521