Topic: The LFC Transfer Topic. That Means LFC only...

[Areal]

But apparently most people would like that.

[hassinator]

you say

[Roslagen]

96 Premier League goals aged 27 and making his debut six years ago suggests that he must be doing something right. If we could get Huntelaar for a lower price though, then screw it!

[geoffstrong]

Apparently we havent signed Bent for £24 million...

But if we do it will be £30 million by the time Sky broadcast it!  I keep seeing names in here who are not leaving their clubs, want European club football , or we cannot afford,

 Idealism is Higuain/ Hazard et al

 Realism is Darren Bent

[barnseysleftpeg]

But apparently most people would like that.

Have you read this thread?  That is not true either.

[shelovesyou]

scottslater_ Scott Slater
Got told then,club is having a board meeting to do with transfers tomorrow afternoon,John Henry will be on a video link to the meeting #lfc

[Areal]

96 Premier League goals aged 27 and making his debut six years ago suggests that he must be doing something right. If we could get Huntelaar for a lower price though, then screw it!

He is not a bad player, but doesn't worth 24 million pounds. Actually, I doubt Villa would sell him for that price - probably would ask for even more. I like him, but he's not the type of sign we should make if we wanna get back on the tops of Europe.

If we are to spend money, let it be spent on the likes of Cavani, for instance. Wouldn't hurt looking in other leagues, would it? Maybe even Pato, who is amazingly skilled, young and is now current speculated on PSG and likely to lose his space on Milan due to Tévez's arrival. Jovetic (although not the same position, but still a world-class player in a very medium team), Llorente (not my favorite, but maybe cheaper than Bent), Giuseppe Rossi, etc.

Leandro Damićo would be a good choice, although young and not experienced.

[Sheik_Yerbouti]

But if we do it will be £30 million by the time Sky broadcast it!  I keep seeing names in here who are not leaving their clubs, want European club football , or we cannot afford,

 Idealism is Higuain/ Hazard et al

 Realism is Darren Bent

Or Soldado, Negredo, Podolski or even Llorente.

I do not believe we'd spend £24m on Darren Bent. I dont mind Bent as a player, at all. But 24 million for him is way overpriced, we havent just got handed £50 million either, so i dont see how that fee makes any sense at all.

[Trumps]

scottslater_ Scott Slater
Got told then,club is having a board meeting to do with transfers tomorrow afternoon,John Henry will be on a video link to the meeting #lfc

Strange a meeting about transfers after the window is open no? Surely more likely a meeting about what to do with the Suarez case

[G1 Jockey 4(betfair)]

if we are gonna spend 24mil on bent it makes no sense when im sure a 30 mil bid would get soldado.

dont we know that there iks a premium on british players which makes them seriously bad value???

[El_Pistolero]

But apparently most people would like that.

I think you'll find many people wouldn't mind/would like Bent here, that list would probably get considerably shorter if it's for £24m.

[G1 Jockey 4(betfair)]

i wouldnt want him here as a starter.
on the bench would be ok.

which probably means we will get him as most fo the players we signed in the summer fell into the same category for me.

[Terry De Niro]

if we are gonna spend 24mil on bent it makes no sense when im sure a 30 mil bid would get soldado.

I doubt very much we will be buying Solado so please leave him out of this non FM thread.

[flinner]

Apparently we havent signed Bent for £24 million...

Hope this is true.

[G1 Jockey 4(betfair)]

er im just pointing out like....soldado could be any other player better than bent...thats quite a few.

if we were to sign bent for 24 mil just shows how incredibly behind the market we are.

[Terry De Niro]

er im just pointing out like....soldado could be any other player better than bent...thats quite a few.

if we were to sign bent for 24 mil just shows how incredibly behind the market we are.

It's not the first time that you have mentioned Soldado though.
And this thread is about players, not just one player who we could possibly sign.
As for Bent, let's wait and see?

[eirwen]

He is not a bad player, but doesn't worth 24 million pounds. Actually, I doubt Villa would sell him for that price - probably would ask for even more. I like him, but he's not the type of sign we should make if we wanna get back on the tops of Europe.

If we are to spend money, let it be spent on the likes of Cavani, for instance. Wouldn't hurt looking in other leagues, would it? Maybe even Pato, who is amazingly skilled, young and is now current speculated on PSG and likely to lose his space on Milan due to Tévez's arrival. Jovetic (although not the same position, but still a world-class player in a very medium team), Llorente (not my favorite, but maybe cheaper than Bent), Giuseppe Rossi, etc.

Leandro Damićo would be a good choice, although young and not experienced.

We need to first get into Europe before considering getting on the tops of Europe. If Bent or whoever can score some goals and help get us back into top 4 this season, then they would have paid for themselves.

Getting CL should be our top priority. Then after that with CL we can buy better players. People talk as if we sign some 'average' striker in January we won't be able sign anyone in the summer. The truth is we lack in attacking players, probably need an extra 2 strikers anyway, especially if we sell carroll.

[Sheik_Yerbouti]

We need to first get into Europe before considering getting on the tops of Europe. If Bent or whoever can score some goals and help get us back into top 4 this season, then they would have paid for themselves.

Getting CL should be our top priority. Then after that with CL we can buy better players. People talk as if we sign some 'average' striker in January we won't be able sign anyone in the summer. The truth is we lack in attacking players, probably need an extra 2 strikers anyway, especially if we sell carroll.

Yes he (Bent) will have paid for himself, but for the quoted price of £24m it is not unrealistic to think we could do better. Or use that money on a midfielder that will make a bigger impact.

[red_dub]

We're still interested.

i think he'd be a realistic and good addition, if we did sign him we'd have a great team in two years or so.

[keswick]

Darren Bent is approaching his 28th birthday, has already been at a fair few clubs, constantly tweets about playing Fifa on his Xbox(A bugbear of mine....You play the real thing for shit loads of cash for fook sake...Concentrate on your game) and a possible £24 million pound transfer fee......If that is the height of our transfer business, then I can't help but feel very deflated!!!

[G1 Jockey 4(betfair)]

Darren Bent is approaching his 28th birthday, has already been at a fair few clubs, constantly tweets about playing Fifa on his Xbox(A bugbear of mine....You play the real thing for shit loads of cash for fook sake...Concentrate on your game) and a possible £24 million pound transfer fee......If that is the height of our transfer business, then I can't help but feel very deflated!!!

id be more worried than deflated.

it feels like someone has been having a few drinks and worked out that if you put a goalscorer in up front we will automatically start converting more chances.

now reading the stats argument im flabbergasted.
stats mean f all especially when you get a player who has nearly always played for teams who wont have park the bus defensive tactics employed against them.

all it means is bent can score goals against sides who will try and attack you.
if bent had done it at spurs that would have been less of an argument.

bent would be good to have coming off the bench.
24 mil seriously??

[El_Pistolero]

Darren Bent is approaching his 28th birthday, has already been at a fair few clubs, constantly tweets about playing Fifa on his Xbox(A bugbear of mine....You play the real thing for shit loads of cash for fook sake...Concentrate on your game) and a possible £24 million pound transfer fee......If that is the height of our transfer business, then I can't help but feel very deflated!!!

Haha, what the fuck?

Someone who, one assumes, loves the game of football as much as any one of us, has favorite teams, players, etc. etc. etc. can't play FIFA/PES/FM because they play it in real life? 

Anyway, this is completely off topic.

As far as Darren Bent is concerned, if we get him for a decent price I won't be too bothered, he'd score for us, I have no doubts about that. Of course we'd all like a more  rounded striker with a bit more to his game but hey-ho. Hernandez won the Mancs the title with his goals didn't he?

[The G in Gerrard]

As far as Darren Bent is concerned, if we get him for a decent price I won't be too bothered, he'd score for us, I have no doubts about that. Of course we'd all like a more  rounded striker with a bit more to his game but hey-ho. Hernandez won the Mancs the title with his goals didn't he?

It'd be interesting to see if Bent could handle the pressure and expectancy.

[ArgImAPirate]

About Bent: we don't learn, do we? Spend 24 million pounds on another brittish player who at his best scored a lot of goals in one season for Sunderland. Failed at Tottenham and even at Villa he looks far from being worth that amount of money. And he is not that young anymore.

Suarez came at pretty much the same cost. But apparently we don't ever learn and we desperatly wanna waste money on brittish players.

I don't see how he failed at Tottenham, he was their top scorer when they sold him. He was sold because of his lack of all around play... but I think he'd be a better fit for their side nowadays than Jermaine Defoe & Pavluchenko.

I understand the apprehension of signing a player who doesn't do much but score goals. But he scores goals and has done so in the top flight wherever he's been. Pippo Inzaghi is nothing more than a poacher and he was very important to Juventus and Milan.

When I look at the first half of our match against Newcastle, there's some wonderful build up in our attacking play. But too often there is nobody in the box. Really Carroll should be there, but you can bet your arse Bent will be looking to free himself up in the box to bang the ball into the back of the net.

I'm not saying he'd be a perfect signing. But I think he's a signing that makes sense and I'm not opposed to signing a poacher at all. Obviously, I think it'd be risky given the price (especially when you consider we'd have to pay the "English payer tax" in the transfer fee) and if we can get someone who can score goals and has a more well rounded game, we should. But I would definitely not being opposed to bringing in a proven goalscorer in our league because we're making so many chances and are rarely as clinical as we should be.

[Aristotle]

Darren Bent is approaching his 28th birthday, has already been at a fair few clubs, constantly tweets about playing Fifa on his Xbox(A bugbear of mine....You play the real thing for shit loads of cash for fook sake...Concentrate on your game) and a possible £24 million pound transfer fee......If that is the height of our transfer business, then I can't help but feel very deflated!!!

First of all what's wrong with playing video games? Most players are under instructions not to train too much (remember Rafa telling Babel off after he started training off hours?). If the worst thing Bent does in his off time is social networking and XBOX live what's the big fucking deal?

You'd rather he was a man cheating on his wife/girlfriend? Had a gambling addiction? Drunk driving? Pray tell what's wrong with it

[The G in Gerrard]

You'd rather he was a man cheating on his wife/girlfriend? Had a gambling addiction? Drunk driving? Pray tell what's wrong with it

I can only assume he has a Wii and not Xbox?

[liverpooll]

To be fair, we have signed Downing as well. Both Downing and Bent are  players with very very similar situation .

So it is natural that we would be linked with him but I do hope that we can use our experience with Downing so far to clearly understand that a player like Bent or even Downing will really not be a provide a level up on our play.

[LiverpoolForever]

If people want us to sign Higuain and Ozil and the like no wonder they write off the likes of Bent , its peoples expectation that is the problem here , look where we are as a club.Do people really believe players will leave Real to join us right now?

[ghost1359]

If we sign Bent then I'll be very worried indeed. Especially for that much money. It wouldn't be him so much that worried me, more whoever is having the final say over the transfer decisions. Bent isn't the kind of striker we need, a blind man could tell you that. We're struggling to break teams down at home, how is signing a pace merchant going to fix that?

Arguably our two most effective players at home are Maxi/Bellamy, the two couldn't be farther away from Bent in terms of their style of play. Quick thinkers are what we need. In which case who the fuck is pointing us in the direction of Darren Bent?

[liverpooll]

If people want us to sign Higuain and Ozil and the like no wonder they write off the likes of Bent , its peoples expectation that is the problem here , look where we are as a club.Do people really believe players will leave Real to join us right now?

That is wrong. Your logic is a bit like Hodgson. We cannot attract the best manager so let's get  a local hyped person. We already suffered from that logic and it is best if we do not apply that with the signing new players.

[ghost1359]

If people want us to sign Higuain and Ozil and the like no wonder they write off the likes of Bent , its peoples expectation that is the problem here , look where we are as a club.Do people really believe players will leave Real to join us right now?

I worry greatly if people think the highest calibre striker we can attract right now is Darren Bent. We're 2 points off 4th ffs, one of the most famous clubs in the world with a footballing legend in charge. For 24 million pounds I'd say we've got a pretty big pool to pick from.

[Sheik_Yerbouti]

I digress, but im getting very annoyed at the stick Downing is getting, and for the record i wanted us to spend that money on another player(s)(Cazorla, Mata, Perrotti, Shaqiri). But he has been a real improvement on what we previously had, people are staring themselves blind on goals and assists, that has never been Downing's game, he's averaged 4 and 4 per season over the last 5-6 years. Obviously he's not reached that here yet, but his contribution goes much further beyond goals and assists. Look at his workrate, the width he provides, offensive runs, passing and crossing ability, he's one of the main reasons we have played so well this season, and for that i think his fee is justified. Bent however is the complete opposite, he provides goals and not much more in terms of adding to the football we play.

[LiverpoolForever]

That is wrong. Your logic is a bit like Hodgson. We cannot attract the best manager so let's get  a local hyped person. We already suffered from that logic and it is best if we do not apply that with the signing new players.

Hang on , maybe im just being realistic? If players like Higuain or Ozil become avalible than there would be an whole host of clubs chasing them and we would be someway down the queue.Is that being negative or realistic? Its got nothing to do with dampening ambition , its accepting where we are right now as a club.

Signing players who can get in the team right now and make a difference regardless of where they come from and getting the best young talent again from any nationality is where the club need to go , like i said ambition im sure remains high if we sign Bent or not.

[keswick]

First of all what's wrong with playing video games? Most players are under instructions not to train too much (remember Rafa telling Babel off after he started training off hours?). If the worst thing Bent does in his off time is social networking and XBOX live what's the big fucking deal?

You'd rather he was a man cheating on his wife/girlfriend? Had a gambling addiction? Drunk driving? Pray tell what's wrong with it

I did say it was a bugbear of mine(we all have them, though not necessarily the same ones) But as for playing games(in most cases it isn't a problem)...Though I do remember a certain LFC Goalkeeper(D James) admitting that he was addicted to playing his playstation, and that it had affected his game!! Getting back on track, for me the acquisition of Bent would be very uninspiring. With us about to lose Luis for 8 games the club needs someone exciting and inspiring to play up front....I'm afraid Darren bent is not that someone!
If Hodgson had planned to purchase Bent, I would guarantee you most LFC fans would be uninspired!

[scatman]

Downing has set up a lot of chances which have been missed. Leandro Damiao is someone we should be looking at, looks a strong big player with brilliant touch and ball control. Looks like he knows where the net is too

[LiverpoolForever]

I worry greatly if people think the highest calibre striker we can attract right now is Darren Bent. We're 2 points off 4th ffs, one of the most famous clubs in the world with a footballing legend in charge. For 24 million pounds I'd say we've got a pretty big pool to pick from.

Got nothing to do with us thinking Bent is the best we can do , its about Dalglish thinking Bent can make a difference , change the fine margins that are going against us in the penalty area.Im sure he is looking at other strikers.Lets not forget Bents ratio in this league , its better than anything we have at the club right now.24 million im sure is a figure plucked from fresh air unless im going to be corrected.

[liverpooll]

Hang on , maybe im just being realistic? If players like Higuain or Ozil become avalible than there would be an whole host of clubs chasing them and we would be someway down the queue.Is that being negative or realistic? Its got nothing to do with dampening ambition , its accepting where we are right now as a club.

Signing players who can get in the team right now and make a difference regardless of where they come from and getting the best young talent again from any nationality is where the club need to go , like i said ambition im sure remains high if we sign Bent or not.

Well, it is not about Higuain or Ozil, but rather having a more wider and better scouting. When and why does it seem like there is a priority to need to get some local people connected with the club. First, we hired Hodgson, wholly on the basics of his reputation in the English game and being the flavor of the year.  And we have applied that logic in our transfers, signing domestic players on their basics of adaptation to English Football when really they are not at all adapted to play at a high profile club like Liverpool which is more important to consider than the former point.

[pcch7]

Honestly, I“d like Bent over Soldado.. Doubt we“re getting anyone like Higuain and I“m not convinced by Soldado at all. Bent is a very good finisher with good pace and movement.. He“d probably score plenty for us, it“s just that he“s on the edge age wise. If he gives us 20 goals a season then why wouldn“t he be worth 24 million? He“s more likely to do it than the strikers we have.

[ghost1359]

Got nothing to do with us thinking Bent is the best we can do , its about Dalglish thinking Bent can make a difference , change the fine margins that are going against us in the penalty area.Im sure he is looking at other strikers.Lets not forget Bents ratio in this league , its better than anything we have at the club right now.24 million im sure is a figure plucked from fresh air unless im going to be corrected.

Reference to the segment in bold, I'd be interested to know how many of his goals were scored at home & also, for which clubs. I'll say again for the record, though we're not scoring prolifically away from home at the moment we do look significantly more dangerous on the break, it's at home we're struggling to find goals because (as has been the case for many a year) we're struggling to break teams down. I don't see how Bent's skill set will be utilised AT ALL in a scenario wherein we're trying to break down two banks of four.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong but has he not played at as a lone striker for the majority of his career? He was the spearhead of a front 3 at Sunderland, plays effectively up top alone at Villa, struggled in a 442 at Spurs, am I wrong in thinking he played predominantly alone at the tip of a 4-5-1 at Charlton? That alone will bump up his goal tally surely? I don't doubt Bent is a good player but I just don't understand the logic in bringing him here at all. Especially not for that kind of money.

[LiverpoolForever]

Well, it is not about Higuain or Ozil, but rather having a more wider and better scouting. When and why does it seem like there is a priority to need to get some local people connected with the club. First, we hired Hodgson, wholly on the basics of his reputation in the English game and being the flavor of the year.  And we have applied that logic in our transfers, signing domestic players on their basics of adaptation to English Football when really they are not at all adapted to play at a high profile club like Liverpool which is more important to consider than the former point.

We all know why we got Hodgson at that point.Cant comment on the scouting mate , we have brought in some young players from overseas and im sure we are watching players.For what its worth i agree the better bargains are abroad but there are always the likes of Morientes who was an established goal-scorer in Spain but never showed it here , never adapted to playing the English game , every signing is a gamble regardless of where they come from.

We are in the battle for 4th , so questioning the logic of the transfer 's so far is a bit early.We we do get in the Top 4 then the transfers and logic would of paid off then maybe the club can aim that bit higher for quality.