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Wigan 0-0 Liverpool: Second half....
« on: December 18, 2011, 07:05:10 PM »
Tough ground to go into in the last few years but now we should build on today's good performance and keep putting presure on the CL places.

A little bit early to talk about but I'm looking forward to it.
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Re: Wigan vs Liverpool - Wed 21st Dec 20:00 K/O
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2011, 07:06:15 PM »
I'm still digesting today's game.
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Re: Wigan vs Liverpool - Wed 21st Dec 20:00 K/O
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2011, 07:14:00 PM »
Accelerate!
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Re: Wigan vs Liverpool - Wed 21st Dec 20:00 K/O
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2011, 08:33:26 PM »
Tempting fate, but I'd give Agger a rest for this one lest the Xmas period prove the undoing of his miraculous fitness run. Whether we go with Carra or Coates, I'm not sure. Heart says Coates, but I think Carra will get the run out if Kenny does decide to rest a defender. Kelly can give Johnson a spell, too. Bellamy won't play, I'm assuming we'll immediately appeal any Suarez ban announced Tuesday (if Sweet FA can make a decision) so Luis should play on Wed. Carroll may have some joy against Wigan's loose defence but I think he'll remain a sub.

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Re: Wigan vs Liverpool - Wed 21st Dec 20:00 K/O
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2011, 08:40:41 PM »
Tempting fate, but I'd give Agger a rest for this one lest the Xmas period prove the undoing of his miraculous fitness run. Whether we go with Carra or Coates, I'm not sure. Heart says Coates, but I think Carra will get the run out if Kenny does decide to rest a defender. Kelly can give Johnson a spell, too. Bellamy won't play, I'm assuming we'll immediately appeal any Suarez ban announced Tuesday (if Sweet FA can make a decision) so Luis should play on Wed. Carroll may have some joy against Wigan's loose defence but I think he'll remain a sub.

Reina; Kelly Carra Skrtel Jose; Henderson Adam; Shelvey; Maxi Suarez Kuyt
I expect you're right. And perhaps we'll see Coates and Carroll replacing Skrtel and Suarez by the 60 minute mark or so if we can get a 2 goal lead. Maybe even one of the youngsters giving Enrique a breather too?

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Re: Wigan vs Liverpool - Wed 21st Dec 20:00 K/O
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2011, 08:44:09 PM »
I'd like to see 2-3 players rested myself.

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Maybe something like that, Shelvey/Adam getting into the hole. Depending on Suarez' hearing aswell. If he's found guilty stick Andy in there.
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Re: Wigan vs Liverpool - Wed 21st Dec 20:00 K/O
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2011, 08:52:59 PM »
I think we need to rotate over this period but to split up a defence when it's at its most successful is foolish to me.

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Re: Wigan vs Liverpool - Wed 21st Dec 20:00 K/O
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2011, 08:55:24 PM »
I don't think we can underestimate Wigan with their pace and "mad skillz"- not with Gomez and Rodallega etc in attack. I'd like to see the standard XI we've come to expect during the past few weeks. After this game, we can think about giving the fringe players some gametime- OR- if we have the game wrapped up early.

But then again- this is on our new pitch- "AWAY"(jeez, we move to a new "home" every week these days ;)), so I prolly expect a reslt whoever we put out. If we had them "away" at Anfield, it'd be even more of a worry.
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Re: Wigan vs Liverpool - Wed 21st Dec 20:00 K/O
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2011, 09:13:33 PM »
I'd go with the same 11 except Maxi for Downing. Maybe Kelly for Johnson too to give him some rest, we've got a ton of fixtures coming up.

Is it selfish of me to enjoy a congested schedule like this? lol.

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Re: Wigan vs Liverpool - Wed 21st Dec 20:00 K/O
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2011, 09:14:19 PM »
I think we need to rotate over this period but to split up a defence when it's at its most successful is foolish to me.
Agger is brittle. A rest would do him good.

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Re: Wigan vs Liverpool - Wed 21st Dec 20:00 K/O
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2011, 09:16:29 PM »
We don't know if today was the last time we see Suarez for a while. I'll go for my team on Tuesday.

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Re: Wigan vs Liverpool - Wed 21st Dec 20:00 K/O
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2011, 09:18:00 PM »
Start Carroll. Suarez, Bellamy on the bench. Kuyt, Maxi to start as well. Downing to be dropped...not rested, but dropped.

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Re: Wigan vs Liverpool - Wed 21st Dec 20:00 K/O
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2011, 09:19:09 PM »
Must win with Spurs playing Chelsea and at least one of them dropping points,

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Re: Wigan vs Liverpool - Wed 21st Dec 20:00 K/O
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2011, 09:19:46 PM »
if we do indeed rest a CB, Carra shouldnt come in for a start. we saw today what happened in 5minute... now imagine that for 90. I think Coates should play if we do rest a CB. I fear Agger playing too many games in short time will increase his chance of getting injured again. so there is the need for rotation. Kelly should get a runout as he has been solid whenever called upon. Not sure about Lb, enrique, adam, suarez all need some kind of rest too. also have to wait on the Suarez thingy too
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Re: Wigan vs Liverpool - Wed 21st Dec 20:00 K/O
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2011, 09:21:57 PM »
I'd go with the same 11 except Maxi for Downing. Maybe Kelly for Johnson too to give him some rest, we've got a ton of fixtures coming up.

Is it selfish of me to enjoy a congested schedule like this? lol.

Agree entirely with that. Keep the same team (ish) and keep the momentum. Someone soon is gonna get a hammering when we realise where the goal is properly. Hopefully it's Wigan. Then Blackburn. Then Newcastle. Etc.

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Re: Wigan vs Liverpool - Wed 21st Dec 20:00 K/O
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2011, 09:22:09 PM »
I am amazed that some of you want to give Agger a rest and play Carra. Carra was on the pitch for about 10 minutes (including extra time) and we had a major wobbly in defence because he gave the ball away twice in the penalty area. I would play Kelly or Coates if Agger has to be rested. Watched the Wigan game against Chelsea. Wigan are a better team than AV and will give us a tougher game. They also have a lot of pace which is why I think we will be set up more defensively. I think Spearing and Maxi will start instead of Shelvey and Downing.
Kenny also said that Carroll will play in the games over the Xmas period. Wigan, Newcastle, Blackburn and Man city- Not sure which game he will start.

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Re: Wigan vs Liverpool - Wed 21st Dec 20:00 K/O
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2011, 09:22:32 PM »
Start Carroll. Suarez, Bellamy on the bench. Kuyt, Maxi to start as well. Downing to be dropped...not rested, but dropped.


yeah now that he is startting to play better with each game, drop him.

I expect few changes for this one, we want to be winning games one by one. Bellamy might be the only one rested for this one
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Re: Wigan vs Liverpool - Wed 21st Dec 20:00 K/O
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2011, 09:25:29 PM »
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Re: Wigan vs Liverpool - Wed 21st Dec 20:00 K/O
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2011, 09:27:15 PM »
I am amazed that some of you want to give Agger a rest and play Carra. Carra was on the pitch for about 10 minutes (including extra time) and we had a major wobbly in defence because he gave the ball away twice in the penalty area. I would play Kelly or Coates if Agger has to be rested. Watched the Wigan game against Chelsea. Wigan are a better team than AV and will give us a tougher game. They also have a lot of pace which is why I think we will be set up more defensively. I think Spearing and Maxi will start instead of Shelvey and Downing.
Kenny also said that Carroll will play in the games over the Xmas period. Wigan, Newcastle, Blackburn and Man city- Not sure which game he will start.
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Re: Wigan vs Liverpool - Wed 21st Dec 20:00 K/O
« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2011, 09:27:19 PM »
Same today except Maxi/Kuyt coming in for Bellamy is how I expect to see things on Wednesday.
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Re: Wigan vs Liverpool - Wed 21st Dec 20:00 K/O
« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2011, 09:27:32 PM »

yeah now that he is startting to play better with each game, drop him.

I expect few changes for this one, we want to be winning games one by one. Bellamy might be the only one rested for this one

I'm not Downing's No. 1 fan by any means but thought he had one of his best games in a red shirt today. I'd keep the same team that played today as I thought everyone gave a good account of themselves. However, Suarez decision could determine whether he'll be able to play or not. If not I'd swap him for Carroll.
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Re: Wigan vs Liverpool - Wed 21st Dec 20:00 K/O
« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2011, 09:29:40 PM »
I'd be happy to play the same team as today.
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Re: Wigan vs Liverpool - Wed 21st Dec 20:00 K/O
« Reply #22 on: December 18, 2011, 09:30:29 PM »
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Re: Wigan vs Liverpool - Wed 21st Dec 20:00 K/O
« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2011, 09:33:39 PM »
isn't spearing still suspended for this one?

No - he only had a 2 match ban. Today was the 2nd game.

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Re: Wigan vs Liverpool - Wed 21st Dec 20:00 K/O
« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2011, 09:37:03 PM »
Same today except Maxi/Kuyt coming in for Bellamy is how I expect to see things on Wednesday.

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Re: Wigan vs Liverpool - Wed 21st Dec 20:00 K/O
« Reply #25 on: December 18, 2011, 09:44:13 PM »
No - he only had a 2 match ban. Today was the 2nd game.

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Re: Wigan vs Liverpool - Wed 21st Dec 20:00 K/O
« Reply #26 on: December 18, 2011, 09:45:38 PM »
no bellamy? no that was my 20000 goal submit! damn
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Re: Wigan vs Liverpool - Wed 21st Dec 20:00 K/O
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Re: Wigan vs Liverpool - Wed 21st Dec 20:00 K/O
« Reply #28 on: December 18, 2011, 09:49:11 PM »
Bellamy won't play in this but might be on the subs bench. I'd be tempted to give Agger a rest because of his injury record but I'm sure the medical team will assess him properly. We don't want another situation similar to Lucas'. Gerrard maybe on the bench?

It's gonna be a hard game.
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Re: Wigan vs Liverpool - Wed 21st Dec 20:00 K/O
« Reply #29 on: December 18, 2011, 09:49:36 PM »
Thanks, i thought i was going mad for a minute

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Re: Wigan vs Liverpool - Wed 21st Dec 20:00 K/O
« Reply #30 on: December 18, 2011, 09:50:56 PM »
It's a crucial game for us to push on. I don't think we can risk it by resting Agger. And if he has to be rested I'd bring on Coates rather than Carra.

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Re: Wigan vs Liverpool - Wed 21st Dec 20:00 K/O
« Reply #31 on: December 18, 2011, 09:51:19 PM »
Think we need to make a few changes but not to the spine of the team. I would keep Reina (obviously), Johnson, Skrtel, Agger, Enrique, Henderson, Adam and Suarez in the team but maybe change the wingers/second striker.

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Re: Wigan vs Liverpool - Wed 21st Dec 20:00 K/O
« Reply #32 on: December 18, 2011, 09:51:33 PM »
This.
Bellamy I feel will be rested.dont want to tamper with the defence that has served us so well.
If Suarez is banned I'd play kuyt up top.

Deffo, Bellamy can't play 2 games in a week so we'll rest him for Blackburn.

Suarez may be banned, but if he is then we'll appeal; so theoretically he would be available for Wigan. If not, I'd agree with you about Kuyt. Then Maxi in Bellamy's position.
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Re: Wigan vs Liverpool - Wed 21st Dec 20:00 K/O
« Reply #33 on: December 18, 2011, 09:52:19 PM »
id have hoped Wigan's result yesterday should be a little reminder that complacency cannot be afforded! We usually struggle as it is at Wigan....but reckon Kenny will have us focused

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Kuyt    Henderson    Adam    Maxi

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                         Suarez

They like to pass it around and have some quick players, but the movement of that ^ team should be too much for them.
Would hope for us to sail into the lead then be able to bring on the likes of Downing and Carroll.

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Re: Wigan vs Liverpool - Wed 21st Dec 20:00 K/O
« Reply #34 on: December 18, 2011, 09:53:15 PM »
Only change if it has to be would be Bellamy if he cant make it, got a bad feeling about the FA and the impending decision so maybe something might have to change up top, wouldnt change anything about the back 4 at all
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Re: Wigan vs Liverpool - Wed 21st Dec 20:00 K/O
« Reply #35 on: December 18, 2011, 09:54:19 PM »
Last round we won and Spurs and Newcastle and Man City dropped points.
This time we won and Arsenal, Chelsea and Newcastle dropped points.

If we can show the bottle to win matches like the next one on a regular basis, we're in for some fun. Especially with the Mancs heading for Fulham, Arsenal to their bogey team Aston Villa and an out of form Newcastle playing Hodgson's Boys and Spurs entertaining Chelsea. I'm quietly confident about this one and it's our last chance to make up some ground on the other teams in 2011 as the schedules for the festive games are these.
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Re: Wigan vs Liverpool - Wed 21st Dec 20:00 K/O
« Reply #36 on: December 18, 2011, 09:54:54 PM »
Id keep the same backline maybe give kelly a start. Skrtel and agger were just so comfortable today i dont see a need to give them a rest

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Re: Wigan vs Liverpool - Wed 21st Dec 20:00 K/O
« Reply #37 on: December 18, 2011, 09:57:30 PM »
I would like this team to start:-


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Re: Wigan vs Liverpool - Wed 21st Dec 20:00 K/O
« Reply #38 on: December 18, 2011, 10:02:57 PM »
Deffo, Bellamy can't play 2 games in a week so we'll rest him for Blackburn.

Suarez may be banned, but if he is then we'll appeal; so theoretically he would be available for Wigan. If not, I'd agree with you about Kuyt. Then Maxi in Bellamy's position.

Has anyone came out and said that Bellamy doesn't have the legs to play two games in a week, or is this just in your opinion?

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Re: Wigan vs Liverpool - Wed 21st Dec 20:00 K/O
« Reply #39 on: December 18, 2011, 10:04:33 PM »
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