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Re: missing piece
« Reply #200 on: November 3, 2011, 05:01:31 AM »
Sorry, i thought you want me to write all the talents out there playing in top clubs that we should be looking at if thinking about future..

If you only mean an alternative to Hazard, who is wing/attacking midfield kind of player, i already written the name of my favourite young player who i belive would fit here, wich is Shaquiri from Basel, he is not as hyped as Hazard, but yet not less talented imho.. other wingers/attacking midfielders who are out there, i would write their names, but i donīt know if we can afford them in our situation right now, certainly i doubt we could buy anyone like that in January... i donīt know our budget...but i belive if we were after Shaquiri, we could get him... He is not as hyped as Hazard and he would certainly make a step up in competition moving to Premier league, while Hazard is bound for Italy or Spain i think.... i donīt think he will end up at Chelsea or United or even in PL...

Names like Hazard, Gotze, Muller, Subotic, Hummels and so on...are not so realistic for us iīm affraid.

i also think Shaqiri suits more to PL...he have Gerrard's brain, Rooney's body, Kuyt's work-rate,Walcott's pace
 
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Re: missing piece
« Reply #201 on: November 3, 2011, 06:23:49 AM »
Is Shaqiri in the same class as Hazard, Lucas Moura, Neymar or Gotze? From what I have seen he doesn't look near thelr ability but I only saw him a little bit in the tournament in summer and what's on Youtube.  He's got a wicked left foot shot which is a real weapon but beyond that he doesn't look world class like the others I mentioned.
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Re: missing piece
« Reply #202 on: November 3, 2011, 06:34:45 AM »
Assuming we will look at British options to go along with out recent buying policy .  And the fact is we don't have (m)any such high quality right sided wingers who fit into this policy.
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Re: missing piece
« Reply #203 on: November 3, 2011, 07:53:03 AM »
Is Shaqiri in the same class as Hazard, Lucas Moura, Neymar or Gotze? From what I have seen he doesn't look near thelr ability but I only saw him a little bit in the tournament in summer and what's on Youtube.  He's got a wicked left foot shot which is a real weapon but beyond that he doesn't look world class like the others I mentioned.

i think he is... he's not better than them at dribling, but he is at everything else
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Re: missing piece
« Reply #204 on: November 3, 2011, 08:09:30 AM »
Drop Carra and we're bloody half way.

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Re: missing piece
« Reply #205 on: November 3, 2011, 08:22:20 AM »
Wish people would drop all the hand-wringing about Aquilani, he wanted to return to Italy and really wasn't as good as many make out.

absolutely. Nice elegant player to watch, clever at times, but nowhere near as good as people are creaming themselves over.

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Re: missing piece
« Reply #206 on: November 3, 2011, 10:56:08 AM »
I think some people are being incredibly harsh with the squad and that is pretty rich coming from me as I have been as critical of the squad in the past couple of years as anyone. Very few teams have 'sorted' their squads out in a couple of transfer windows. Even Man City, Chelsea and Man Utd have positions in their sides that could improve.

But overall I believe we have had a decent summer and Jan 2010 transfer window as we have massively turned around our squad and built a solid base. If you looked at our squad last season, you could look at it and give several names who should not have been in or have a real future at our Football club. Players, in my opinion, like Kyrgiakos, Konchesky, Poulsen, Jovanovic, Ngog, Joe Cole and Phillip Degen, as well as players who didn't want to be there like Aquilani and Torres.

Now you look at the squad from goalkeeper to forwards (http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/team/first-team) and I would say nearly all of them have a future and should be part of this squad, even a title challenging one. Yes maybe one or two (in my opinion, Maxi Rodriguez and Skrtel) could be replaced but overall I look at that squad and I see a good one.

We probably need a pacy goalscorer and a top quality winger/attacking midfielder. We probably need a dominating centre half. But thats 3 players needed just to add to this squad, whereas this time last year we had a squad that needed not only several additions, but several departures as well.

I think we should be happy with this squad as there is not many peices missing.
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Re: missing piece
« Reply #207 on: November 3, 2011, 12:21:11 PM »
well said
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Re: missing piece
« Reply #208 on: November 3, 2011, 12:57:46 PM »
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Re: missing piece
« Reply #209 on: November 3, 2011, 02:00:46 PM »
Someone to play Suarez in instead of him having to create on his own every time. Defenders will turn into a pretzel if they had to worry about Suarez making runs behind them without the ball.

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Re: missing piece
« Reply #210 on: November 3, 2011, 02:53:53 PM »
i also think Shaqiri suits more to PL...he have Gerrard's brain, Rooney's body, Kuyt's work-rate,Walcott's pace
 
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Re: missing piece
« Reply #211 on: November 3, 2011, 02:56:57 PM »
another el zhar then

hey Levante are challenging for the title
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Re: missing piece
« Reply #212 on: November 3, 2011, 02:59:47 PM »
I think the team is only really missing some better quality out wide (inlcuding someone who can score) and a better CB. I think Coates will develop into the latter but it depends as to whether Agger can stay healthy. I'm sure they are looking at addressing quality out wide and I think someone like Scott Sinclair will be on the agenda (serious pace, can score, young, British). Icing on the cake would be a really creative player in the summer who can unpick defences and give that something else....

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Re: missing piece
« Reply #213 on: November 3, 2011, 03:29:06 PM »
i also think Shaqiri suits more to PL...he have Gerrard's brain, Rooney's body, Kuyt's work-rate,Walcott's pace
 
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Re: missing piece
« Reply #214 on: November 3, 2011, 03:33:07 PM »
Yeah, really? But does it have Ngog's.....       haircut knob?
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Re: missing piece
« Reply #215 on: November 3, 2011, 04:50:25 PM »
More concerned about the defence to be honest.

Still, if I was going to go down that route, I'd say we're 3 top class players away from a title winning squad, one in each outfield area of the pitch.

Is my opinion.

We need another quality option upfront, as an option should either Carroll or Suarez be out / suspended / poor form.

We also need some genuine wide alternatives to an aging Kuyt and Maxi, we could probably do with somebody that can inject a little more pace in those areas too.

Carra will also need a long term replacement, that could be Coates.
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Re: missing piece
« Reply #216 on: November 3, 2011, 08:43:54 PM »
Agree.

Defence is not a problem for me , not this season.
Judging by our lack of clean sheets I'd say the way we defend is.
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Re: missing piece
« Reply #217 on: November 3, 2011, 11:52:00 PM »
I reckon any more arrivals need to be straight into the first team type of player.  No more potential or re sale value, just straight up world class.  And i dont care who's place in the team they get.  we have a good squad for next 5-7 years so a steady trickle of real quality into that mix will reap rewards.
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Re: missing piece
« Reply #218 on: November 4, 2011, 02:06:31 AM »
IMHO the missing pieces in the team currently are;-

1. a creative playmaker in the hole position
2. a winger with pace and dribbling ability who can play on the right or the left
3. a centreforward of pace, skill and strength and all round ability

whereby all three players need to be sufficient class and quality that will make them among the Premiership's top players in their roles.


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Re: missing piece
« Reply #219 on: November 4, 2011, 09:41:01 AM »
Somehow have the feeling that since we are now more English oriented,we will get one of Hoilett or Sinclair soon.Dont mind them at all,but we need to back these signings up with equally talented foreign ones.They're the ones who are going to win us silverware.Agger,Enrique,Pepe,Lucas,Luis-all quality quality foreigners in our eleven.Barring Gerrard and Carragher and say Finnan,I cant remember a homegrown/English player who has made a major impact in our team since Judas.
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Re: missing piece
« Reply #220 on: November 4, 2011, 10:17:14 AM »
Somehow have the feeling that since we are now more English oriented,we will get one of Hoilett or Sinclair soon.Dont mind them at all,but we need to back these signings up with equally talented foreign ones.They're the ones who are going to win us silverware.Agger,Enrique,Pepe,Lucas,Luis-all quality quality foreigners in our eleven.Barring Gerrard and Carragher and say Finnan,I cant remember a homegrown/English player who has made a major impact in our team since Judas.

sinclair's not good enough though? hoilett looks a player but i would rather have had nzogbia, on another note i've watched qpr four times this season and faurlin just keeps impressing me

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Re: missing piece
« Reply #221 on: November 4, 2011, 10:23:54 AM »
It is far too early to say how far off a title challenge we are.

Of our regular first XI this season, 6 are signings from this year  (Adam, Henderson, Downing, Enrique, Carroll, Suarez). That is over half of the team. I think the time to review will be the end of the season. Some have got off to a great start, some we have only seen flashes of brilliance, but lets give them time before we jump the gun and say we need this, that, and the other.

We had a huge squad overhaul over the last 12 months, with many players leaving, and many  coming in. We have seen some high profile exits, and some big money transfers. We aren't like City, who make a big money signing that doesn't settle quickly, they buy another. And had it not been for Tevez's fall out, Dzeko may have been dumped on the heap of "expensive failures" at City. But look at him now, now that he has been given a good run in the side.

We have to build, and give our players time to settle, not knee jerk into what we need for the title. This squad deserves a full season, see where we finish, then go from there. If we are lagging way behind the 4th place chase in January, then we need to make some big decisions. But there is 27 points up for grabs until the transfer window opens. 27 points for this squad to show they deserve to stay in the squad, stay in the team, and that we don't need any immediate additions to hit our target of CL football.

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Re: missing piece
« Reply #222 on: November 4, 2011, 05:28:56 PM »
sinclair's not good enough though? hoilett looks a player but i would rather have had nzogbia, on another note i've watched qpr four times this season and faurlin just keeps impressing me

I look at Scott Sinclair and I just see the same as Adel Taraabt. Championship defenders will shit themselves when you run at them with pace, but he won't be anything like as prolific when you look at total come the end of this season.

Hoilett looks good so far, but very raw. There's a lot of moulding and experience before he's near the finished product.

N'Zogbia was the main man at Wigan, but he's severely flopped so far at Villa. Remember reading their forums and most of them would return him and bring Downing back any day of the week.


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Re: missing piece
« Reply #223 on: November 4, 2011, 06:56:01 PM »
We definitely need another quality striker in Jan to give Carroll some competition and score goals. I also think that we need another midfielder/playmaker in the Suarez mould because if Suarez was injured or missing we will suffer- Gerrard is also getting more injury prone

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Re: missing piece
« Reply #224 on: November 5, 2011, 12:24:40 AM »
I look at Scott Sinclair and I just see the same as Adel Taraabt. Championship defenders will shit themselves when you run at them with pace, but he won't be anything like as prolific when you look at total come the end of this season.

Hoilett looks good so far, but very raw. There's a lot of moulding and experience before he's near the finished product.

N'Zogbia was the main man at Wigan, but he's severely flopped so far at Villa. Remember reading their forums and most of them would return him and bring Downing back any day of the week.



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Re: missing piece
« Reply #225 on: November 5, 2011, 12:29:08 AM »
Someone like Mata/Silva. A creative midfielder to dictate play - Jovetic maybe.

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Re: missing piece
« Reply #226 on: November 5, 2011, 01:04:21 AM »
Always thought Adam Johnson could add a lot to our side. he seems to be getting a couple of games again for city though but I think we could offer more game time, especially if they do their usual and spend Ģ150m in the next transfer window.

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Re: missing piece
« Reply #227 on: November 6, 2011, 07:51:50 AM »
If I'm honest, in janurary I'd be happy with just one player who is willing to try and dribble past a defender.  Because other than Suarez, I can't think of anyone else in our team who is.

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Re: missing piece
« Reply #228 on: November 6, 2011, 08:19:49 AM »
Always thought Adam Johnson could add a lot to our side. he seems to be getting a couple of games again for city though but I think we could offer more game time, especially if they do their usual and spend Ģ150m in the next transfer window.

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Re: missing piece
« Reply #229 on: November 6, 2011, 08:34:28 AM »
I said it in another thread, but the player I want more than anyone right now is Lucas Moura. I'm not sure what sort of price we'd be looking at for him, perhaps around the 20mil mark, but it would certainly be money well spent as he could become one of the world's best.