Author Topic: How can Man City be stopped? (Read 3622 times)

Kals · « **on:** October 24, 2011, 11:19:51 AM »

For all the great joy it was seeing them lot getting humiliated 6-1 on their own turf, there was also that little part of me thinking 'Fuck City are looking unreachable'. That's what a load of money can do really. It was inevitable.

The emergence of City truthfully makes it all the harder for us to end our wait.... for the next 5 years at least. It even looks bleak for the likes of United and Chelsea, let alone ourselves.

The truth is they're going to improve even more. An improved striker. An improved centre back. Both will be brought in the next two transfer windows. They'll even look a far scarier opposition this time next year.

So, the question is how can City be stopped? Do we rely on the emergence of FFP in 2 years time? Can we even rely on FFP, with the Eithad campus project on the horizon?

This game of ours we love just seems very wrong to me at the moment.

Wish Matrix · « **Reply #1 on:** October 24, 2011, 11:21:14 AM »

You worry too much. Believe in our team. Support the players. We'll destroy them for sure, no?

andymanlfc · « **Reply #2 on:** October 24, 2011, 11:23:10 AM »

Carroll and Suarez!

-Willo- · « **Reply #3 on:** October 24, 2011, 11:23:56 AM »

Maybe a wage cap? Other then that I'm not entirely sure.

rakey_lfc · « **Reply #4 on:** October 24, 2011, 11:24:28 AM »

Put Barcelona infront of them!

Something Else · « **Reply #5 on:** October 24, 2011, 11:25:09 AM »

Quote from: andymanlfc on October 24, 2011, 11:23:10 AM

Carroll and Suarez!

They wont be enough to stop City.

City have the ability to win games that they dont play well in, yet they have not proved that yet.

They have world class players in attack, something that we maybe have 1 of, they have 3 or 4.

They have the ability to rest and still be very strong. I think they will take a lot of beating and I believe we need to concentrate on trying to gain top four, rather than worry about City right now anyway.

No top four, no Suarez.

Roady · « **Reply #6 on:** October 24, 2011, 11:25:56 AM »

its a good question.Every team is beatable though.Its 11 v 11. Anything can happen. Yes they look strong but they are beatable. Its going to be really tough to stop them but its not impossible. Like you say though its hard when you can afford to lose a 30-40-million pound player through injury and they be replaced by someone equally as good. Difficult to stop them yes,very. Impossible, no.

doc_antonio · « **Reply #7 on:** October 24, 2011, 11:26:30 AM »

Quote from: rakey_lfc on October 24, 2011, 11:24:28 AM

Put Barcelona infront of them!

i'd be worried i dont think even barca could beat them convincingly.

Roady · « **Reply #8 on:** October 24, 2011, 11:29:39 AM »

This may sound silly but its not really our concern at the moment.We arent going to be fighting with city at the top.We are fighting for fourth.Not until we are in a genuine position to fight for 1st position do we need to be concerned.

BMW · « **Reply #9 on:** October 24, 2011, 11:30:32 AM »

Quote from: rakey_lfc on October 24, 2011, 11:24:28 AM

Put Barcelona infront of them!

Mashy-rawr!nooo · « **Reply #10 on:** October 24, 2011, 11:32:18 AM »

Play very pass and move football. Clinch the first goal and ride it to the second half. City on the backfoot and pressured become nothing more than a team of selfish Individuals and pre-maradonna's. We saw that in the community shield. Keep Silva and Kun watched and play the game with direct passing and killer balls.

Its easier said than done however.

RacerX34 · « **Reply #11 on:** October 24, 2011, 11:35:22 AM »

Sure let's hand them the titles now.
Who needs to watch a full season?

This time last year it was Chelsea who were the unstoppable force.

All we need now is some political infighting and player fall out.
Oh shit! That didn't work. I'm sure Ferguson is furious at agent Tevez.

Let them win the title. Better than the Mancs getting 20.

We can focus on our rebuilding, which by the way has started a lot like
City's. We have bought British players to strengthen initially.
Less likely to fuck off to Spain in the not too distant future.
When we get back into Europe we can bring in some more quality.

Patience folks.

ChaChaMooMoo · « **Reply #12 on:** October 24, 2011, 11:35:49 AM »

Ask Rafa.

Lfsea · « **Reply #13 on:** October 24, 2011, 11:38:45 AM »

I'm just going to come out and say it: whilst we're not challenging for the league, I'm just thankful it's anyone but United / Chesea / Bitters dominating.

That feels better.

Red Beret · « **Reply #14 on:** October 24, 2011, 11:44:17 AM »

City cannot be stopped. I knew this moment would come when Liverpool fans were still laughing at Robinho. The only thing standing in City's way is the law of averages.

Andy @ Allerton · « **Reply #15 on:** October 24, 2011, 11:48:14 AM »

Quote from: Kals on October 24, 2011, 11:19:51 AM

For all the great joy it was seeing them lot getting humiliated 6-1 on their own turf, there was also that little part of me thinking 'Fuck City are looking unreachable'. That's what a load of money can do really. It was inevitable.

The emergence of City truthfully makes it all the harder for us to end our wait.... for the next 5 years at least. It even looks bleak for the likes of United and Chelsea, let alone ourselves.

The truth is they're going to improve even more. An improved striker. An improved centre back. Both will be brought in the next two transfer windows. They'll even look a far scarier opposition this time next year.

So, the question is how can City be stopped? Do we rely on the emergence of FFP in 2 years time? Can we even rely on FFP, with the Eithad campus project on the horizon?

This game of ours we love just seems very wrong to me at the moment.

west_london_red · « **Reply #16 on:** October 24, 2011, 11:57:41 AM »

If they do really start to dominate (which I think is inevitable) I can see both us and the Mancs go running to the PL (and other European clubs to UEFA if they start to dominate the CL) shouting 'Financial Fair Play!?!?!?' which might get listened to a little more if we're both saying it, and start mooting the idea of selling our own TV rights again (I think FFP was the real reason behind Ayer's comments about TV rights a couple of weeks back)

The G in Gerrard · « **Reply #17 on:** October 24, 2011, 12:05:48 PM »

Ask Bayern, they managed to do it

Grobbelrevell · « **Reply #18 on:** October 24, 2011, 12:10:45 PM »

Quote from: -Willo- on October 24, 2011, 11:23:56 AM

Maybe a wage cap? Other then that I'm not entirely sure.

How about FIFA actually implementing their much vaunted 'Financial Fair Play' regulations? That'd be a start.

They're not as unbeatable as they look at the moment though.

beardsley4ever · « **Reply #19 on:** October 24, 2011, 12:12:01 PM »

The point is that there is a lot about winning the league that is out of your control, the obvious thing being how good other teams are. We only play City twice a year, so all we can do is focus on our own games, enjoy the players we have, hope that Kenny finds and develops them in the right way, and see where that leaves us. Whether City get 60 points, 80 points, 100 points or 114 points isn't really something we can influence. So it isn't for us to "stop City" (except the two times we play them) - it's for us to just worry about ourselves, and then see what happens at the end of the season.

ThepepeReina · « **Reply #20 on:** October 24, 2011, 12:15:20 PM »

Their not un beatable, united are just vulnerable at the back, and with 10 men it was always possible. Fulham held city, they havent improved THAT much from when we smashed them at Anfield. That said, do think they will win it this year.

RedSuarez · « **Reply #21 on:** October 24, 2011, 12:15:37 PM »

The cold winter night game at Britania.

james791 · « **Reply #22 on:** October 24, 2011, 12:16:53 PM »

They do appear unstoppable after a result like yesterdays, but at the end of the day, they are still human, made of flesh and blood, and prone to errors as well as being beatable in all areas. Not easily, certainly but that is the beauty of football-anything can happen. Who would have predicted 6-1 before yesterday? who would have predicted Utd to smash arsenal 8-2? Who would have thought Chelsea would have 2 players sent off and be beaten by lowly QPR?

As long as our players work as hard as possible, and believe winning to be possible, then anything is possible.

itsgunnabebarnes! · « **Reply #23 on:** October 24, 2011, 12:18:12 PM »

simple by managers with a tactical brain, not arrogant c*nts like fergie who just expects his side to turn up to win.

Enemy · « **Reply #24 on:** October 24, 2011, 12:18:14 PM »

We can only hope the FFP rules are enforced, otherwise....welll...they scare me to be honest. I was saying just last night they're the only team in the world I feel genuinely apprehensive about playing. Even Barcelona I don't think could completely shit all over us like they could, I can see 5, 6 or even 7-0 walkovers from Man City and nobody else. It worries me.

Wish Matrix · « **Reply #25 on:** October 24, 2011, 12:18:28 PM »

Quote from: RedSuarez on October 24, 2011, 12:15:37 PM

The cold winter night game at Britania.

Tuesday night?

The G in Gerrard · « **Reply #26 on:** October 24, 2011, 12:20:05 PM »

Quote from: Enemy on October 24, 2011, 12:18:14 PM

We can only hope the FFP rules are enforced, otherwise....welll...they scare me to be honest. I was saying just last night they're the only team in the world I feel genuinely apprehensive about playing. Even Barcelona I don't think could completely shit all over us like they could, I can see 5, 6 or even 7-0 walkovers from Man City and nobody else. It worries me.

Jesus. Look they got a great result, I don't think they will stay unbeaten all season. They are beatable and anyone with sense would know not to start fucking Anderson and Fletcher in midfield against them.

CRAZY HORSE EMLYN · « **Reply #27 on:** October 24, 2011, 12:26:24 PM »

Sure everyone is thinking ahead now – only a month until we have them, and Chelsea back to back.
They're strong all over the park – we're a work in progress. However we need to play against the best to get better,
and play with belief. No point in referencing that game in relation to ours now. It's also a bit wrong
to cry foul over the 'unfairness' of them having financial muscle. We've not exactly been shy of splashing the
cash either recently – and as a City fan pointed out this morning they've made some excellent buys for not
'outrageous' sums of money, and are now getting the best out of them.

Enemy · « **Reply #28 on:** October 24, 2011, 12:27:03 PM »

Quote from: The G in Gerrard on October 24, 2011, 12:20:05 PM

Jesus. Look they got a great result, I don't think they will stay unbeaten all season. They are beatable and anyone with sense would know not to start fucking Anderson and Fletcher in midfield against them.

I'm not trying to be a drama queen, it's not even really related to the result yesterday. I've been watching them closely all this season and have been growing more and more scared/in awe at how fluidly and aggressively they're playing. Everyone is beatable, but I don't even see any English clubs having a chance against them right now. European clubs perhaps because they're somewhat untested in that department.

beardsley4ever · « **Reply #29 on:** October 24, 2011, 12:27:05 PM »

Quote from: The G in Gerrard on October 24, 2011, 12:20:05 PM

Jesus. Look they got a great result, I don't think they will stay unbeaten all season. They are beatable and anyone with sense would know not to start fucking Anderson and Fletcher in midfield against them.

And Evans and Ferdinand in the heart of defense. The middle of the pitch that United put out there was weak and City ran through it. United have been there for the taking several times this season (us, Norwich, etc) despite what the pundits will have you believe - City just happened to be the ones to take it, thanks significantly to a (merited) red card to Evans and three goals in stoppage time. If that game finishes 3-1, then everyone just says "good game, red card changed it, still all to play for", but three goals in stoppage time (when United, to their credit, were still attacking) and everyone is talking about it like the fukin moon landing.

LanceLink · « **Reply #30 on:** October 24, 2011, 12:27:10 PM »

The owner will get bored one day, the money will dry up, then they will implode.

beardsley4ever · « **Reply #31 on:** October 24, 2011, 12:27:45 PM »

Quote from: Enemy on October 24, 2011, 12:27:03 PM

I'm not trying to be a drama queen, it's not even really related to the result yesterday. I've been watching them closely all this season and have been growing more and more scared/in awe at how fluidly and aggressively they're playing. Everyone is beatable, but I don't even see any English clubs having a chance against them right now. European clubs perhaps because they're somewhat untested in that department.

We're going to beat them, for a start. Believe.

beardsley4ever · « **Reply #32 on:** October 24, 2011, 12:29:57 PM »

And I'll add this. When Abramovich came to England, everyone said the same thing about Chelsea. Three league titles, a couple of FA/league cups, NO European Cups, and that's it. Are you still scared of Chelsea? No. And even if City go on a tear and win 7 of the next 10 league titles, they'll still be miles behind us and United (

) in league totals. History isn't built in one day, nor is it destroyed in one day. Let them have their time - it'll come to an end.

Enemy · « **Reply #33 on:** October 24, 2011, 12:31:10 PM »

beardsley4ever - Every team we meet in Europe I believe we'll beat. Everytime we face Man U, Chelsea or Arsenal I believe we'll win. Can I honestly say I believe we will beat Man City this season? Nope.

freedom · « **Reply #34 on:** October 24, 2011, 12:31:39 PM »

Quote from: Enemy on October 24, 2011, 12:31:10 PM

beardsley4ever - Every team we meet in Europe I believe we'll beat. Everytime we face Man U, Chelsea or Arsenal I believe we'll win. Can I honestly say I believe we will beat Man City this season? Nope.

x2

The G in Gerrard · « **Reply #35 on:** October 24, 2011, 12:34:10 PM »

Quote from: beardsley4ever on October 24, 2011, 12:27:05 PM

And Evans and Ferdinand in the heart of defense. The middle of the pitch that United put out there was weak and City ran through it. United have been there for the taking several times this season (us, Norwich, etc) despite what the pundits will have you believe - City just happened to be the ones to take it, thanks significantly to a (merited) red card to Evans and three goals in stoppage time. If that game finishes 3-1, then everyone just says "good game, red card changed it, still all to play for", but three goals in stoppage time (when United, to their credit, were still attacking) and everyone is talking about it like the fukin moon landing.

Bang on, Ferdinand's better days have past him by now and as you said, ourselves, Norwich and others have or could have scored hatfuls against them. I mean they conceded 3 against Basle? Chelsea, ourselves and Arsenal are works in progress. While City could and should win league, they aren't the ultimate team. Infact Real Madrid would have slaughtered that Man Utd side yesterday.

cox3100 · « **Reply #36 on:** October 24, 2011, 12:37:09 PM »

reina

johnson carra agger enrique

lucas gerrard

kuyt suarez downing

carroll

score more goals and hope and pray

west_london_red · « **Reply #37 on:** October 24, 2011, 12:37:32 PM »

Quote from: LanceLink on October 24, 2011, 12:27:10 PM

The owner will get bored one day, the money will dry up, then they will implode.

People have been saying that about Abrahmovich for a while and he doesnt seem to have got bored yet. And while you can draw simillarities between Sheikh Mansoor and other wealthy sugar daddies, he is on another level to the likes of Jack Walker whose wealth would not even make a dent in football these days.

Add to that the fact that people very rarely get bored of winning and I cannot see City going away that soon.

PS we need to worry about Spurs and Arsenal first, worrying about Man City is a little premature

Endoe · « **Reply #38 on:** October 24, 2011, 12:44:27 PM »

the only thin stopping City, is City itself, which is more than like;y with the amount of "personalities" and the history of theirs. They get that right and they really could be as good as Barca.

Aido LFC · « **Reply #39 on:** October 24, 2011, 12:47:35 PM »

So nobody seen Bayern Munich beat them then?