Author Topic: José Enrique Sánchez Díaz (Read 233490 times)

libby_lfc · « **Reply #2360 on:** July 26, 2012, 01:26:45 AM »

Quote from: sangria on July 26, 2012, 12:57:24 AM

I bet libby_lfc disagrees.

Hehe

Lemieux · « **Reply #2361 on:** July 26, 2012, 01:30:56 AM »

Enrique's honeymoon period has been over for a good while now, think reality is starting to set in as to how good he really is. Probably would be better off looking for someone better long term.

KirkVanHouten · « **Reply #2362 on:** July 26, 2012, 01:31:29 AM »

Quote from: And Could He Play on July 26, 2012, 12:57:21 AM

its pre season yeah,.

Yeah I know but he was playing like he's been on an 8 month bender and just woken up.

RyanBabel19 · « **Reply #2363 on:** July 26, 2012, 01:44:14 AM »

His positioning terrifies me. I like him but he often makes me think of the footballer vs athlete debate, in great physical condition, covers the ground quickly and seems able to beat the vast majority of players in a battle of strength but i have serious doubts about his reading of the game

RedEire · « **Reply #2364 on:** July 26, 2012, 01:51:20 AM »

Quote from: RyanBabel19 on July 26, 2012, 01:44:14 AM

His positioning terrifies me. I like him but he often makes me think of the footballer vs athlete debate, in great physical condition, covers the ground quickly and seems able to beat the vast majority of players in a battle of strength but i have serious doubts about his reading of the game

I agree with this, I also think he takes too much out of the ball, or tries a 70/30 pass favouring the opposition while there is a simple pass on. I really think when robo is back he will defo be pushing hard for a starting spot.

LiverBirdKop · « **Reply #2365 on:** July 26, 2012, 02:00:53 AM »

Not sure about L E right now. He just doesn't look comfortable which is puzzling. His crossing is just.... not very good. Not sure about his timing...like when to burst forward and that comes back to his reading of the game which hasn't been the best for some time now imo.

penga · « **Reply #2366 on:** July 26, 2012, 02:02:05 AM »

D: Why is he getting worse and worse

Please come good by start of the season

Y2J · « **Reply #2367 on:** July 26, 2012, 02:02:49 AM »

I think he can be molded into a good solid fullback, he has been off form since about March but I'm hopeful Rodgers can change some elements in his game.

vishy01234 · « **Reply #2368 on:** July 26, 2012, 03:17:56 AM »

Ever since Molly Dobbs died he's not been the same. And Kirsty beating him up is probably not helping his performances either.

ryatnalkar · « **Reply #2369 on:** July 26, 2012, 03:38:14 AM »

People keep talking about new signings, but it's how the squad we have right now improve and adopt good understanding of the tactics coach wants to employ will probably have the bigger impact on our season. I hope Rodgers improves our side as well as 2-3 superstars are made our of players that the supporters have been writing off. Enrique, downing (if he is here) hendo hopefully transform into brilliant players. Rafa managed it 3 out of 4 times with players he invested significant amount in. I hope Rodgers continues that.

AusRed · « **Reply #2370 on:** July 26, 2012, 04:24:06 AM »

It's preseason so you can't be too harsh but one thing that is bothering me about Enrique(for maybe the last 6 months) is his positioning in defense and attack. In attack he seems to want to make the run inside our left winger rather than outside. By running inside he is taking away the space left for a midfielder to run into this also leaves no one to support the winger from behind. In defense he is doing ok but sometimes he gets sucked too far up and inside leaving space in behind for their wingers.

Just an observation. Still very strong and composed on the ball. Maybe his passing wasn't the greatest today though.

something awful · « **Reply #2371 on:** July 26, 2012, 04:28:55 AM »

1) He played way too many games last season

2) It's preseason

3) He's boss

JackBurton · « **Reply #2372 on:** July 26, 2012, 04:38:26 AM »

He looks poncified at the moment.

WraithXx · « **Reply #2373 on:** July 26, 2012, 05:21:13 AM »

Quote from: JackBurton on July 26, 2012, 04:38:26 AM

He looks poncified at the moment.

and always will until he stops doing his eyebrows.... the poofta.

Appreciator of former strikers · « **Reply #2374 on:** July 26, 2012, 05:26:21 AM »

He's supposed to get forawrd more in this system, so he took a few risks. he does better against English sides with things being more physical, but yes his passing was off today.

Vidocq · « **Reply #2375 on:** July 26, 2012, 08:48:16 AM »

Quote from: something awful on July 26, 2012, 04:28:55 AM

1) He played way too many games last season

2) It's preseason

3) He's boss

not many clubs rotate their left-backs mate

something awful · « **Reply #2376 on:** July 26, 2012, 08:54:18 AM »

Quote from: Vidocq on July 26, 2012, 08:48:16 AM

not many clubs rotate their left-backs mate

maybe, but they also probably didn't play as many games as we did.

scatman · « **Reply #2377 on:** July 26, 2012, 09:05:16 AM »

it's the same as last season really, has all the physical and technical attributes, but there's something in his head that just computes wrong and makes a hash of using those attributes.

Sterling and Pacheco were covering for Enrique too much today, and these are 2 very good prospects who can cause damage at the other end of the pitch. One thing I love about Jose, he's always there supporting, always.

steveeastend · « **Reply #2378 on:** July 26, 2012, 09:29:46 AM »

Quote from: scatman on July 26, 2012, 09:05:16 AM

it's the same as last season really, has all the physical and technical attributes, but there's something in his head that just computes wrong and makes a hash of using those attributes.

This is called lack of talent. Why people recognise it now is a little strange, it´s obvious, he always played like that and I have to disagree, he doesn´t have all the technical attributes at all. Very frustrating to watch, just as Spearing..

Number 7 · « **Reply #2379 on:** July 26, 2012, 09:42:51 AM »

Regressed badly in the second half of last season, and needs to pick it up, and quickly.

scatman · « **Reply #2380 on:** July 26, 2012, 09:44:56 AM »

Quote from: steveeastend on July 26, 2012, 09:29:46 AM

This is called lack of talent. Why people recognise it now is a little strange, it´s obvious, he always played like that and I have to disagree, he doesn´t have all the technical attributes at all. Very frustrating to watch, just as Spearing..

He does have all the technical ability, its his mental ability that seems to be lacking - decision making, positioning, intelligent runs, "what do i do now that i've run this far (or past this many players)?" that sort of thing.
His ball control, passing, first touch is all top notch, same with his strength speed agility

BUSHMILLS · « **Reply #2381 on:** July 26, 2012, 09:53:32 AM »

Quote from: something awful on July 26, 2012, 04:28:55 AM

1) He played way too many games last season

2) It's preseason

3) He's boss

He really isn't boss.

He's been shocking since Christmas.

steveeastend · « **Reply #2382 on:** July 26, 2012, 09:59:08 AM »

Quote from: scatman on July 26, 2012, 09:44:56 AM

His ball control, passing, first touch is all top notch..

It´s not mate, it really isn´t. Positioning, runs, linking up with team mates is pretty much part of the talent in the first place, he must be the only spanish player who doesn´t know what to do in a short passing game..

His physical attributes are very good though..

conman · « **Reply #2383 on:** July 26, 2012, 09:59:18 AM »

Quote from: scatman on July 26, 2012, 09:44:56 AM

He does have all the technical ability, its his mental ability that seems to be lacking - decision making, positioning, intelligent runs, "what do i do now that i've run this far (or past this many players)?" that sort of thing.
His ball control, passing, first touch is all top notch, same with his strength speed agility

I don't think he has speed. Maybe he was simply knackered at the tail end of last season, but I've a distinct memory of seeing him with his chin up, huffing and puffing trying to chase down a long pass in attack.

dotheoffski · « **Reply #2384 on:** July 26, 2012, 10:05:21 AM »

Unfortunately like a few of the players brought in last summer Enrique seems as others have said to have great engines and strength, but when it comes to game intelligence, composure on the ball and positioning there is alot to be desired.

Players at this stage of their career can improve but they should not have to be taught the basics. My housemate a Geordie fan said Enrique gets himself into trouble with bad positioning but gets away with it more often than not because his pace and power allow him to recover. How right he has been proved.

I would like to think Robinson would be given a go or even a new LB brought in. But unlikely to happen.

conman · « **Reply #2385 on:** July 26, 2012, 10:07:16 AM »

It's a pity Insua was sold, himself & Enrique could have rotated that left back spot.

John C · « **Reply #2386 on:** July 26, 2012, 10:08:59 AM »

Quote from: conman on July 26, 2012, 10:07:16 AM

It's a pity Insua was sold, himself & Enrique could have rotated that left back spot.

But we've got an excellent Jack Robinson now, plus Johnson has had 1 or 2 of his best games at lb.

DonkeyWan · « **Reply #2387 on:** July 26, 2012, 10:11:41 AM »

Whether Enrique gets his mojo back (or ever had it in the first place) is still open to debate. The real concern now though is cover for LB. If Enrique continues his poor run of form the only other option is to move Johnson across, or put a youngster in the side (Wilson, Robinson). These are not good options. In the middle after Agger and Skrtel you only have an aging Carragher and an unproven Coates, so re-deploying Agger to LB is also out of the question. On the right 'foul by Flanagan' and Kelly are the only other cover we have, so that is also a worry, since one picks up a lot of injuries and the other is still terrifically raw. So, covering an under-performing Enrique with Johnson is also perilous.

We have plenty of midfielders, too many in fact, I think Rodgers will need to trim this area and focus on getting some defenders in.

Johnnyboy1973 · « **Reply #2388 on:** July 26, 2012, 10:12:41 AM »

He's been average for a while now.

I reckon he'll struggle if we are to play with inside forwards where the resposibility of width will be placed on the full backs shoulders as his final ball for the vast majority of the time is inadequate.

steveeastend · « **Reply #2389 on:** July 26, 2012, 10:15:03 AM »

Quote from: John C on July 26, 2012, 10:08:59 AM

But we've got an excellent Jack Robinson now, plus Johnson has had 1 or 2 of his best games at lb.

Robinson is far from being excellent yet. He has been injured and is very young. Young players usually are inconsistent in their game.

We have still Enrique but despite the fact that there are probably bigger issues around I wouldn´t say our left back position is anywhere near quality at the moment.

conman · « **Reply #2390 on:** July 26, 2012, 10:23:33 AM »

Quote from: John C on July 26, 2012, 10:08:59 AM

But we've got an excellent Jack Robinson now, plus Johnson has had 1 or 2 of his best games at lb.

i'm no fan of moving Johnson over there.

Robinson, yea he has talent. I'd like to see more of him, and see if he can step it up.
When Insua was being sold/blamed, Robinson was (stupidly) touted to be the reason why we don't need him, but he hasn't made any such impact "yet". Mind you, he is only 18.

T.Mills · « **Reply #2391 on:** July 26, 2012, 10:26:06 AM »

Whats happened to him? Looks absolutely shot of confidence at the minute.

John C · « **Reply #2392 on:** July 26, 2012, 10:35:15 AM »

Quote from: conman on July 26, 2012, 10:23:33 AM

i'm no fan of moving Johnson over there.

Robinson, yea he has talent. I'd like to see more of him, and see if he can step it up.
When Insua was being sold/blamed, Robinson was (stupidly) touted to be the reason why we don't need him, but he hasn't made any such impact "yet". Mind you, he is only 18.

You know what mate, and no offence, I don't want to get in to a discussion about Insua as he's just another divisive subject that is unlikely to ever play in a red shirt again.

conman · « **Reply #2393 on:** July 26, 2012, 10:37:02 AM »

Quote from: John C on July 26, 2012, 10:35:15 AM

You know what mate, and no offence, I don't want to get in to a discussion about Insua as he's just another divisive subject that is unlikely to ever play in a red shirt again.

me neither really.

I am interested in what Rodgers see's in that LB slot.

Enrique certainly needs a challenge for that spot, now is Robinson ready to deliver it?

stewy17 · « **Reply #2394 on:** July 26, 2012, 10:38:46 AM »

I felt that Enrique was one of the main offenders for giving the ball away and making bad choices leading to the surrender of possession last season. Be interested to see the stats and whether they back up my beliefs.

Its going to be interesting to see how that fits with the possession football we're supposed to play this season, as it certainly didn't fit with the possession football that kenny tried to play last season.

whtwht · « **Reply #2395 on:** July 26, 2012, 11:02:21 AM »

Enrique might be on a loong bad patch , but he's defo not the player we signed at the moment. He lacks abit of intelligence at times.

Left side positions looking up for grabs at the moment

keyo · « **Reply #2396 on:** July 26, 2012, 12:36:53 PM »

Quote from: whtwht on July 26, 2012, 11:02:21 AM

Enrique might be on a loong bad patch , but he's defo not the player we signed at the moment. He lacks abit of intelligence at times.

Left side positions looking up for grabs at the moment

Intelligence is not form, or temporary, and therefore does not impact whether he is currently "the player we signed"

He is an excellent defender, but his use of the ball is not great.....he needs to show more composure, and work to a plan....but he does need to ensure he is able to be involved in keeping the ball

AriGold · « **Reply #2397 on:** July 26, 2012, 12:47:14 PM »

Quote from: Edward224 on July 23, 2012, 07:34:19 PM

Enrique is a much better defender than Riise ever, ever was. If there ever was an overrated player it was Riise. Truly he was the worst left back we've had for the last 20 years.

Konchesky, Traore, Dossena, Vignal, Ziege.

What a fucking daft thing to say.

carling · « **Reply #2398 on:** July 26, 2012, 01:29:25 PM »

His defending has been top notch since he joined us if you ask me. I can't think of many games he wasn't solid.

He definitely needs to be more economical on the ball though. He's capable of hitting a wonder pass, in the air or on the ground. But too often his longer passes don't come off. Thankfully - if all reports are to be believed - this is exactly what Rodgers wants to get away from.

If he can drill Enrique into playing shorter passes with his left midfielder and the other players around him I think we'll see a big improvement. He's definitely capable of it, earlier on in the season there was some great interplay between him and Downing. It just needs to be something we see on a more regular basis.

nocturnalvin · « **Reply #2399 on:** July 26, 2012, 02:08:29 PM »

Pre-season or not, a top professional can do the simple of thing of passing the ball to a team mate, and not look like a goat with headlights shone right into this eyes.