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Rickets makes a return to the UK
« on: July 24, 2011, 11:22:40 AM »
Cases of the crippling children's bone disease rickets are being seen in Cardiff, BBC Wales has learned.

Caused by a lack of vitamin D, the disease can lead to deformities like bowed legs and stunted growth, but it largely disappeared last century.

Eye on Wales has learnt health professionals working in communities in south Cardiff are reporting incidents.

Public Health Wales does not hold statistics on the number of cases as rickets is not a notifiable disease

Dr Elspeth Webb, a reader in child health at Cardiff University, spends half her time working as a paediatrician within Splott and Tremorfa in the city.

She told the programme: "We're still seeing rickets in children in Cardiff in the 21st Century - which a lot of people might be very shocked and surprised by, thinking of it as a Victorian illness. But no, it's not.

"You get women living in certain communities that perhaps don't go out much because of religious, cultural traditions.

"They're covered up when they do. They don't get enough access to sunlight. So they get vitamin D deficient."

"Every pregnancy, you use up your vitamin D stores and if you're not making enough to replenish them, you gradually get more and more depleted.

"By your third or fourth child, that child is born already without enough vitamin D."

"So they'll be presenting with rickets at around 18 months."

While her experience suggests that rickets is confined within certain communities in south Cardiff, Dr Webb says that poverty and poor access to services are also reasons why the disease is occurring.

"You don't see rickets in rich, advantaged, educated, middle-class South Asian people. So it's a mixture of religious, cultural practices with poverty."

'Quite startling'
As co-ordinator of the Butetown Communities First project, Nathan Evans has been involved in the response to rickets and believes progress can be made towards eradicating the disease.

"For me this is something from the past. This is something that is alive and kicking in the 21st Century? This was quite startling for me."

"But then some of the remedies surrounding it are around that up-take of Vitamin D. So it's around diet, it's around lifestyle."

"The Local Health Board have this big drive around vitamin up-take. This has proved quite successful locally."

"As long as active promotion of where people can access vitamins, how they can maybe modify their behaviour in order to attract more sunlight into their lives then I believe this is something that can be reversed."

The cases of rickets serve to highlight the health inequalities - and differences in life expectancy - that exist within Wales' capital city.

Those differences have always existed, but Gareth Williams - a professor of sociology at Cardiff University - said the gap was widening, not shrinking.

"Within Cardiff you've got quite dramatic contrasts between the northern area of Cardiff and the old docks area where life expectancy is considerably lower. There's a 10-year life expectancy difference."

"Everyone's life expectancy is getting better. The life expectancy of people in poor communities has been getting better very slowly.

"Whereas the life expectancy of people in wealthier places is getting better quite quickly."

Earlier this month, First Minister Carwyn Jones committed the Welsh Government to passing a Public Health Bill to deliver improved life expectancy and reduce health inequality within the life of this assembly.

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Re: Rickets makes a return to the UK
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2011, 12:34:33 PM »
Rickets is one of the easiest things to avoid...all you need is to eat a healthy diet, drink milk regularly and spend some time outside (preferably in sunlight). Even if Wales is mostly drab and sunless, that's not an excuse for this to happen...this is nothing short of child neglect.

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Re: Rickets makes a return to the UK
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2011, 03:36:52 PM »
Rickets is one of the easiest things to avoid...all you need is to eat a healthy diet, drink milk regularly and spend some time outside (preferably in sunlight). Even if Wales is mostly drab and sunless, that's not an excuse for this to happen...this is nothing short of child neglect.

Never been to wales or just fishing?

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Re: Rickets makes a return to the UK
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2011, 05:30:20 PM »
Never been to wales or just fishing?

I have been to Wales and no, I'm not fishing...Wales isn't exactly a tropical paradise is it? You can't really claim that it's perpetually awash with sunlight can you?

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Re: Rickets makes a return to the UK
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2011, 05:35:32 PM »

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Re: Rickets makes a return to the UK
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2011, 05:38:53 PM »
I have been to Wales and no, I'm not fishing...Wales isn't exactly a tropical paradise is it? You can't really claim that it's perpetually awash with sunlight can you?

It's the same in all of Britain so I don't see why you felt the need to single Wales out.

And I thought this thread would be about Michael Ricketts

EDIT: I just googled him and found this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-12210100

What a muppet

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Re: Rickets makes a return to the UK
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2011, 06:25:37 PM »
It's the same in all of Britain so I don't see why you felt the need to single Wales out.

And I thought this thread would be about Michael Ricketts

EDIT: I just googled him and found this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-12210100

What a muppet

Because if you'd actually taken time out to read the article in the first place instead of lusting after Michael Ricketts you've realised that the article was about the incidence of rickets in Cardiff as opposed to the rest of the UK. And...in case you never knew...Cardiff is in Wales.

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Re: Rickets makes a return to the UK
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2011, 01:53:44 PM »

The birds are coming home to roost.

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Re: Rickets makes a return to the UK
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2011, 08:32:44 AM »

The birds are coming home to roost.

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Is there any particular reason why you've made that comment and posted that link on the subject of rickets, which has nothing at all to do with the article in question or Vitamin D in particular?

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Re: Rickets makes a return to the UK
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2011, 03:04:38 PM »
I'm intrigued to see if this will turn into a Muslim bashing thread or a Thatcher bashing thread, or possibly even both.

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Re: Rickets makes a return to the UK
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2011, 10:03:09 PM »
Is there any particular reason why you've made that comment and posted that link on the subject of rickets, which has nothing at all to do with the article in question or Vitamin D in particular?

Probably because milk is a source of calcium. Which combines with Vitamin D to form the material used for bones. And rickets is...of course...a disease of the bones. So the link is as clear as day.

Or were you being sarcastic?

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Re: Rickets makes a return to the UK
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2011, 10:10:28 PM »
I opened this thread thinking it was about Michael  :D
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Re: Rickets makes a return to the UK
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2011, 10:26:08 PM »
Thats it everyone will be leaving Wales now
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Re: Rickets makes a return to the UK
« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2011, 10:53:36 PM »
I'm intrigued to see if this will turn into a Muslim bashing thread or a Thatcher bashing thread, or possibly even both.




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Re: Rickets makes a return to the UK
« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2011, 10:56:05 PM »
I TOLD YOU WE WEREN'T SIGNING HUNTELAAR.

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Re: Rickets makes a return to the UK
« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2011, 12:02:09 AM »
Probably because milk is a source of calcium. Which combines with Vitamin D to form the material used for bones. And rickets is...of course...a disease of the bones. So the link is as clear as day.

Or were you being sarcastic?

No I wasn't being sarcastic. The article is about the lack of Vitamin D of which milk contains almost exactly none.  Milk isn't mentioned in the article because it's not relevant to the subject about the cause of rickets, which is all to do with the lack of exposure to sunlight.

Drinking milk has no effect on whether these kids are getting rickets.

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Re: Rickets makes a return to the UK
« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2011, 05:41:47 PM »
No I wasn't being sarcastic. The article is about the lack of Vitamin D of which milk contains almost exactly none


That is not true but never mind. My point was that by withdrawing the daily 1/3rd of milk  she deprived poor children of a good source of nutrition that many were not able afford themselves. In Its form it wasn't necessary it was just her way of chipping away at the working man.

Added to the fact that I fucking hate her I don't have much else to add.


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Re: Rickets makes a return to the UK
« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2011, 06:20:11 PM »