We finally buy the top british talent with already 70 caps in the Premiership, bid for one of the best british defenders and people still moan, give me a break. With the romance between fathead and slurface Henderson would go to united the next year probably, that's the same reason ferguson went all out to get Jones this summer- didn't need him now, but could miss out. In financial terms - even if the fee is 16m, he still costs us ~2,6 a year, given an extension it would be less than 2m in amortisation. When we will be selling him, we could recoup at least a half of the fee. Considering everything goes okay we get a player who can contribute and has enough expierience at the age of 20, he will play for us in his prime, fills the homegrown quota and being british enables to recoup a significant amount from his fee. And the most important thing after we bought him:
Let the lad play a game !
Now it's the first step of building a team that will conquer Europe once again. At the moment we don't have the financial muscle to fund players like Aguero who will cost 40m + the same amount in ages. We need to get better in the league - players like Adam and Downing do their jobs at lesser teams with worse players, they do better with our lads Valencia at yernited is a prime example). The passing game will be back when our youngsters grow up, add to that Suarez, Lucas, Carroll and few others in their prime + 1-2 foreign stars and we will be fine.
I think you're taking the piss if you think Henderson is the top british talent, at least at the moment.
no, you merely looked at failing and the risk that is associated with failing....price does not increase the risk of failing, it is merely part of the function...."if he doesn't even after 2 years....." - you are still looking at resale value as a valuation of the sale (again, maybe you are just rubbish at expressing yourself, i don't know)
your opinion as to who is better, based on prices you cannot confirm....they ARE in the same bracket, they played for the same team, both get into the england squad, but are not automatic team picks, similar age, qualities, stats, blah de blah.....and again you say overrated, your opinion, others would say indicative of the market, no?
I am clearly referring to the pressure on Dalglish to come good with players who aren't anywhere near as highly rated outside our own club.
Which price was I supposed to confirm? You're confusing me. Who says they are in the same bracket? Because their prices were close enough? Is Suarez not in the same bracket as Torres? Is Tevez?
No, they're not in the same bracket. As aforesaid; both play largely the same position; one scores at a rate almost twice the other with more or less the same amount of assists whilst also being a year younger.
never said you need a graph etc...and expensive and value for money are 2 different things......aston martins are expensive, but everyone accepts that is the price you have to pay....so i assume you mean overly expensive, to which i again refer back to what i said about downing...look at the transfer, the circumstances etc....and then judge, are we improved? is there a method?
we all have opinions about players, and i do not think it is necessary to fall back on the 'kenny knows best argument'......we are on the net after all....but, criticism about policy, fees, strategy, etc has to be based on facts and reality, not an opinion.....we are not clued up enough to pass judgement right now on the owners, so query, yes, but judge when you have sufficient information
Take a look at the thread, I am already in a discussion with another poster regarding prices paid and alternatives we could have gotten. We are paying BMW money for Honda Civics.
All that I've said has been as objective as possible with regards to the circumstances around the players but it is ultimately subjective. There is no pure objective measure to gauge any player...it doesn't exist. Otherwise prices would be far more predictable and there would be less flops. Simply put, Downing's fee has doubled in 2 years...and he was largely injured for one and he's done even better in Middlesbrough compared to his last year at Villa. When Downing went to Villa 2 years ago (which, really should have been as expensive as Downing should get considering they'd also have time to get him at his prime and have good resale value) they only paid 10m. And yet you think you can rationalise our 20m fee. I know inflation is bad around the world, but this bad? Come on.
