There is: it was in response to the post I quoted which asked one thing and stated another thing: how old is he, and he is underrated. Other than that, I wasn't making a connection between him being overrated and his age. My point on him being overrated is in reference to his price. He is being rated higher than he should be, and we are hence paying a higher price than we should be.
fair enough...about the age/rating non-connection, the rest is your opinion to which you are entitled
It's becoming clear you don't read things and comprehend them well. I said, IF he is a flop, it is unlikely we'll keep him longer than 2 seasons. For example, he may have a bad first season; but we'll keep him for another season to make sure whether he'll hack it. So 2 seasons - I am being conservative here because if he stays even longer he'll be even more worthless at resale.
clearly i don't (or you are just poor at expressing you opinion)....but if you base your opinion on him failing, then what am i supposed to comment on.....where is the upside, what about the bit where he succeeds? so me commenting on the outcome of the downing's stay as a flop is me not comprehending what exactly? and again, you are basing your value of his acquisition on his resale value, how have i misunderstood this?
None of this is a fact; it is all subjective. But take a look at the transfers going on around the world and the prices and get back to me. If 20m for DOWNING isn't overpriced then I am not sure what to tell you. That is if that is the fee.
based on the market, using a comparable deal.....ashley young is 1 year younger than downing, and had 1 year less on his contract...he has 12 fewer caps than downing, has averaged around 31games over his career compared to downing's 34, has 62 career goals compared to downing's 32
He is overpriced, Young is a much better player than Downing and I'd say even Young is a tad overpriced. Just because you want a player as a priority doesn't not make him overpriced. You could want John O'Shea for 10m...that's overpriced. That's the crux of the discussion: whether Downing is worth the fee and worth being a priority.
so your answer is that in your opinion young is better than downing and therefore we got done in the transfer, well done, wll thought out case, put in a way that is clear and unequivocal, i bow to your debating skills.....and the john o'shea comparison, just genius...tell me WHY downing and young are not in the same price bracket, then tell me the EXACT prices (and sources) the deals went through at to justify your arguments and who we could buy for that role at the same price with appropriate justification (i gave you the justification for the price, least you can do is the same to back your opinion, not just say look at transfers going on around the globe)
as for priorites, again that is opinion, so fine, you do not think he should be a priority.....do not use price to argue this point because you do not know the price and your opinion is your opinion, not fact, dalglish and comolli have a different opinion, and that is their driver....the price is within the expected market price, whether you like the player is a different matter
the issue i have generally about prices being used as a stick to beat transfers with, but very rarely is there any proper review of the price paid based on what is happening in the market and with the buyer and the seller....and we know nothing about either the budget we have or the policy developed in terms of transfers....and then don't even talk to me about using resale values as a basis for valuing a transfer.......