Topic: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel

[Immoral King Brian Blessed]

If you hadn't seen any alien film, I bet you would have come out and been quite happy with it.

It's good, it's interesting, it's not great, but it's 7/8 out of 10.

Most sci fi films are utter drivel these days, atleast this was more interesting.

Does it matter if I like the other ones or not?

It's a very good idea, the execution was awful, though.

[lionel_messias]

I don't think it really matters what films you have seen before if basics like plot and characterisation are poor, although the worse reviews I suspect have come from people who really built this up in their mind's eye going in.

[Spongebob Redpants]

Went to see this last night . I'd glanced through this thread beforehand ( avoiding the spoilers ) to see what the vibes were . I was a bit suprised at some of the nagativity , but after watching the film this all became (un)clear.

Wasn't a bad movie , but be interesting to see how it goes on from here considering some of the critiscism it's received.

[Ray K]

Saw this a few days ago. I really enjoyed it, but as everyone's been saying here, the end does seem rushed and there's plot holes aplenty.

Still, I really enjoyed the ambition of it, and Ridley Scott creates worlds in his movies that I enjoy spending time with.  Fassbender is just ridiculously talented and some of the set-pieces are just jaw-dropping.

So, what does David say to the Engineer?  Here's an explanation:

[Aido LFC]

[J-Mc-]

One thing I hate about anything to do with Alien is the inevitable discussion about the Predators.

One of the lads in work today mentioned that Predators put the Xeno's on Earth in AVP (which is somewhat true, they took the queen there) but he always believes the preds had something to do with the birth of the first Xeno's.

He's seen Prometheus so I haven't got a clue how he still thinks it's true.

[Redcap]

One thing I hate about anything to do with Alien is the inevitable discussion about the Predators.

One of the lads in work today mentioned that Predators put the Xeno's on Earth in AVP (which is somewhat true, they took the queen there) but he always believes the preds had something to do with the birth of the first Xeno's.

He's seen Prometheus so I haven't got a clue how he still thinks it's true.

AvP is not canon to Alien or Predator anyway, so unless your colleague prefers the AvP canon, then it really doesn't matter what happens in those movies.

[J-Mc-]

AvP is not canon to Alien or Predator anyway, so unless your colleague prefers the AvP canon, then it really doesn't matter what happens in those movies.

Aye but there's always one who tries to work out how they all fit into the same timeline.

[Redcap]

Aye but there's always one who tries to work out how they all fit into the same timeline.

I suppose it is kinda fun. May as well mash in the Firefly/Serenity universe in there as well.

In the age of crossover fanfiction I suppose anything goes really.

[Immoral King Brian Blessed]

There are also a few Batman Vs Predator graphic novels.

[lionel_messias]

There are also a few Batman Vs Predator graphic novels.

Cool. Howabout Batman vs Predator vs Charlies Angels? McG could direct.

[Cragsi]

Cool. Howabout Batman vs Predator vs Charlies Angels? McG could direct.

Yas have probs already seen it (its a fair few years old) but seeing that post reminded me of it!

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/jOZVp9NFhQE" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/jOZVp9NFhQE</a>

[Macphisto80]

There are also a few Batman Vs Predator graphic novels.

There's even a Dredd Vs Aliens.

[cornelius]

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/culture/robbiecollin/100064415/sniggering-at-prometheus-the-jokes-on-you/

[lionel_messias]

Saw this a few days ago. I really enjoyed it, but as everyone's been saying here, the end does seem rushed and there's plot holes aplenty.

Still, I really enjoyed the ambition of it, and Ridley Scott creates worlds in his movies that I enjoy spending time with.  Fassbender is just ridiculously talented and some of the set-pieces are just jaw-dropping.

So, what does David say to the Engineer?  Here's an explanation:

You see that is really interesting, thank you for digging it up. Of course the problem is, as a cinema viewer I have to go on what is shown in the actual film and none of that is there. It is pretty funny don't you think that a linguistics professor has to comment on a scene that didn't even make the final cut just to get to an allusion to what might have happened!

[Immoral King Brian Blessed]

You see that is really interesting, thank you for digging it up. Of course the problem is, as a cinema viewer I have to go on what is shown in the actual film and none of that is there. It is pretty funny don't you think that a linguistics professor has to comment on a scene that didn't even make the final cut just to get to an allusion to what might have happened!

I thought it was obvious what David said. Now of course, there were many assumptions made in David's construction of this language, which ultimately caused the problem.

David said, "I just had the veal. In fact we all did! It was tasty"

But what he said in the SJ's language was, "I just had your mum. In fact we all did! She tastes like veal"

I nearly lost my life in Mexico City after something similar, thanks to google translate.

[dazzcarlos]

The more i think about it, the more i realise how brilliant a film this was. Its wanted to leave some questions unanswerd in the ending so if there is a sequel it will draw a crowd with a integrated story. Some (or indeed most) people going into this film and saying they didnt enjoy clearly just saw prometheus as just another alien film rather than a stand alone film in the alien universe with only a few tie ins.

[Thush]

The more i think about it, the more i realise how brilliant a film this was. Its wanted to leave some questions unanswerd in the ending so if there is a sequel it will draw a crowd with a integrated story. Some (or indeed most) people going into this film and saying they didnt enjoy clearly just saw prometheus as just another alien film rather than a stand alone film in the alien universe with only a few tie ins.

The space jockey in the original Alien landed on LV-426. Prometheus is set on a different planet (LV-223, if memory serves).

[dazzcarlos]

The space jockey in the original Alien landed on LV-426. Prometheus is set on a different planet (LV-223, if memory serves).

I dont know if this makes me happy or sad. Happy in the sense theres potential for more movies that could be done to explain the connections to it all and tie it all together. Sad as it will probably never happen.

[Tepid water]

I dont know if this makes me happy or sad. Happy in the sense theres potential for more movies that could be done to explain the connections to it all and tie it all together. Sad as it will probably never happen.

Oh it will


Two more planned

[Renato]

I dont know if this makes me happy or sad. Happy in the sense theres potential for more movies that could be done to explain the connections to it all and tie it all together. Sad as it will probably never happen.

Will definitely happen, Prometheus has made more than enough at the box office and generated enough public discussion and interest to guarantee at least one sequel.

[Kashinoda]

Sunshine is a better movie than Prometheus.

[Aido LFC]

Oh it will


Two more planned

2 more films? Oh please.

[something awful]

Hope it's quick, Ridley's in his 70s and Lindelhof is a shithouse.

[Rusty Oysterburger]

Sunshine is a better movie than Prometheus.

Thinking about it, they're both quite similar and have a lot of the same problems

[lionel_messias]

I thought it was obvious what David said. Now of course, there were many assumptions made in David's construction of this language, which ultimately caused the problem.

David said, "I just had the veal. In fact we all did! It was tasty"

But what he said in the SJ's language was, "I just had your mum. In fact we all did! She tastes like veal"

I nearly lost my life in Mexico City after something similar, thanks to google translate.

 

Or perhaps he said

"Mate I just heard from the bestest ITK on twitter that Liverpool are signing Edison Cavani, can we celebrate?"

[Renato]

Hope it's quick, Ridley's in his 70s and Lindelhof is a shithouse.

Lindelhof says he probably won't return for a sequel

[Andy @ Allerton]

Sunshine is a better movie than Prometheus.

Thought Sunshine was terrible myself. That's the beauty of Science Fiction film. Everyone has a different opinion.

[Immoral King Brian Blessed]

Thought Sunshine was terrible myself. That's the beauty of Science Fiction filmlife. Everyone has a different opinion.

[Andy @ Allerton]

This is true



By the way - if someone is out there that wants the DVD 'Four pack' of Alien/Aliens/Alien 3 and Ressurection then ASDA are selling them for £10.

[sparkiemark73]

Thought Prometheus was really well done and I'm hoping for a sequel to help tie the loose ends up (if that's at all possible). 9/10.

Just watched Aliens though (for the first time in about 20 years) and sad to say I was dissapointed. Kind of like a wine that'd gone off. Concept was great, but no style whatsoever, cinematography was poor along with the acting. Laughably shit in parts. Alien and Alien 3 aged better by miles.

[lionel_messias]

Thought Prometheus was really well done and I'm hoping for a sequel to help tie the loose ends up (if that's at all possible). 9/10.

Just watched Aliens though (for the first time in about 20 years) and sad to say I was dissapointed. Kind of like a wine that'd gone off. Concept was great, but no style whatsoever, cinematography was poor along with the acting. Laughably shit in parts. Alien and Alien 3 aged better by miles.

Aliens, as directed by James Cameron and released in 1986? Ok it is all about opinions I guess. Alien 3 was not as bad as some people have suggested, it was a interesting failure at best. The ending always reminded me of Terminator 2 though which was a disappointment to be fair.

[Redcap]

Thought Prometheus was really well done and I'm hoping for a sequel to help tie the loose ends up (if that's at all possible). 9/10.

Just watched Aliens though (for the first time in about 20 years) and sad to say I was dissapointed. Kind of like a wine that'd gone off. Concept was great, but no style whatsoever, cinematography was poor along with the acting. Laughably shit in parts. Alien and Alien 3 aged better by miles.

Wow.. Prometheus 9/10 and Aliens laughably shit in parts. Say what now?

[Drinks Sangria]

Thought Prometheus was really well done and I'm hoping for a sequel to help tie the loose ends up (if that's at all possible). 9/10.

Just watched Aliens though (for the first time in about 20 years) and sad to say I was dissapointed. Kind of like a wine that'd gone off. Concept was great, but no style whatsoever, cinematography was poor along with the acting. Laughably shit in parts. Alien and Alien 3 aged better by miles.

Wow.. Prometheus 9/10 and Aliens laughably shit in parts. Say what now?

Unbelievable really isn't it. Prometheus 9/10??!!! Aliens is an immense film, Sci-Fi classic. Prometheus won't be joining it in the pantheon of greats.

[Kashinoda]

Thinking about it, they're both quite similar and have a lot of the same problems

I agree with this, some things in Sunshine irked me but overall there's a lot more memorable scenes in Sunshine than in Prometheus/

[Driver 8]

It's got massive plotholes, several redundant characters, a sloppy screenplay with some duff dialogue, a hideous, Star Trek-lite score, and fuck all really in common with the original Alien movie...but I really liked it! Fassbender is FANTASTIC, and it was great to see a true SF movie being done on that scale/budget (i.e., one that's not really just an action movie with an SF setting, as was the case with Cameron's Aliens).

[Andy @ Allerton]

Thought Prometheus was really well done and I'm hoping for a sequel to help tie the loose ends up (if that's at all possible). 9/10.

Just watched Aliens though (for the first time in about 20 years) and sad to say I was dissapointed. Kind of like a wine that'd gone off. Concept was great, but no style whatsoever, cinematography was poor along with the acting. Laughably shit in parts. Alien and Alien 3 aged better by miles.

Funny you mentioned that. I watched Alien (Directors cut - remastered) and it was just as excellent as I remembered. Stunning film.

Then the next day I watched Aliens again - seems kind of pokey and naff now. Just a shoot em up on film really. Taped Alien 3 the other night and will give it another watch

[Andy @ Allerton]

I agree with this, some things in Sunshine irked me but overall there's a lot more memorable scenes in Sunshine than in Prometheus/

Not being funny - but like what?

[Kashinoda]

Not being funny - but like what?

You didn't like it, why does it matter?

After having 3 weeks to digest Prometheus all that's stuck with me is Shaw's self abortion. Oh, and Fassbender's superb performance.

Giving Alien 3: Director's Cut a watch later, should be interesting.

[soxfan]

**no spoilers, don't worry**

Just saw it on a giant fucking screen in IMAX 3D. Loved it. 

I'd been avoiding the spoilers in this thread, but had glimpsed enough at the start of posts here to prepare myself for a mediocre movie.  But it was far better than that. The visuals were stunning, a couple of performances were fantastic. Was it perfect? No. But it was a damn good movie. Can't wait for the next one!

I'm so sick of all the comic book & transformer-type movies that keeps getting thrown at us. Some are good, most are shit. It was great to see a more classic "serious" sci-fi film. Scott deserves praise for even trying -- and he very much succeeded IMO.