Topic: Prometheus: Ridley Scott's Alien Prequel

[Beav]

Plan on watching Alien on Thuraday before seeing this. Just so it's refreshed in my mind before the awesomeness of Prometheus melts my face.

12:00 tickets booked. So, so excited for this.

[Casablancas]

If the film suffers the same defects as Robin Hood, the man can hold a camera and some scenes are enjoyable to watch, sometimes involved. 3D is very friendly and the special effects are without the slightest mistake.

But that's not enough to save the sinking of Prometheus. Our only hope to see Scott return to a franchise that made him famous and do it right now based on the result of Blade Runner, fortunately without Lindelof and his bad pen.

Get ready, it's still a good movie, but not the masterpiece which was expected

The worst part is that you realize that the end is a prequel of prequel, and that the film alone will not build at all. The screenplay, co-written by the always cryptic Damon Lindelof (Lost), is lyrical at first, but terribly rough on the end. A broken promise by Scott, who, despite his immense talent visual, failed to capture the terror that made the enigmatic force that remains as one of his masterpieces.

In summary: Prometheus is a good sci-fiction for adults need to see at least once in the room, if only for the opening scene and a few other highlights of the film.

In short, PROMETHEUS is fantastic, achieved all its goals and often surpasses. Ridley Scott is definitely a great master of Science Fiction and the doors of the new world that opens here suggest fascinating adventures. Bravo Maestro

And a few others saying it is a very good film. Same reaction to this that Alien and Blade Runner received. Bare in mind though that the above reviews are translated from French using Google.

[Beav]

So some saying its a bit shit, some saying it's decent and some saying it's brilliant.

I'll make my own mind up.

[Casablancas]

A couple of fans who have seen it in France have posted on fan sites commenting that the ending is "embarrasing". FFS.

[mart356]

A lot of the critics in france went into the movie thinking it had a lot more to do with Alien than it actually does, and when it didnt, they were disappointed and took it out on the movie a bit. Its NOT an alien prequal, and you have to remember that before going into the theatre.

[Andy @ Allerton]

I don't expect it to have the slightest connection to Alien. Scott said that from the start. He also said that there is a sequel in this which has nothing to do with the original - but has to do with reality of that Universe.

Those expecting to see the prequel to Alien are

a) Stupid
b) Stupid
c) Stupid
d) Illiterate.


I'll make me own mind up. But I think the greatest thing about this film will be it's sequel. If a Director like Ridley Scott tells you the destination is way on beyond there then that has to make you stop and think

[se9R.F.L]

Just got a nice phone call inviting me along to see this in liecester  square tomorrow night.

Well, rude not to really!

[Andy @ Allerton]

Just got a nice phone call inviting me along to see this in liecester  square tomorrow night.

Well, rude not to really!

Have a good one. I've taken a day off to see it and seeing it in Liverpool at 00:01 - can't wait

I'll be watching it after 20 pints of Stella then again at 13:00 with the missus when I've (more or less) sobered up

[se9R.F.L]

Have a good one. I've taken a day off to see it and seeing it in Liverpool at 00:01 - can't wait

I'll be watching it after 20 pints of Stella then again at 13:00 with the missus when I've (more or less) sobered up

Hehe i like your style!
i only just got an invite so not planned how pissed Im gonna be.... let's say quite!

Have to work though and it better not go over!!
Ill be back to post my thoughts tomorrow!

[Andy @ Allerton]

Hehe i like your style!
i only just got an invite so not planned how pissed Im gonna be.... let's say quite!

Have to work though and it better not go over!!
Ill be back to post my thoughts tomorrow!

NO SPOILERS MATE!!!

It's taking all my willpower not to go on *that* site again.

I think this film will be awesome. With Alien and Bladerunner and the other films he did - I read some of the slaggings off and thought "You honestly missed half the film - ha ha"

I like Ridley - he's very understated and very shrewd. I can't see him letting this out of the door without being fully in control - the original Bladerunner release - that he was against has gone.

[Andy @ Allerton]

OK. Just read a balanced French review (Not many spoilers)

And the message there was "Relax. It's a great film."

From what they said - people who expected Alien are pissed off. People that expected Ridley Scott, that universe and something inventive and different are delighted.

No more reading til I've seen it now

But I wasn't relaxed. I was a bit worried.

[Immoral King Brian Blessed]

It's going to be shite.

[Andy @ Allerton]

It's going to be shite.

Hur hur hur.

[ShatnersBassoon]

seeing it tonight now. woo!

[Andy @ Allerton]

seeing it tonight now. woo!

Enjoy!

55 hours or so to go for me!

[RideTheWalrus]

Be seeing it at the weekend hopefully. Don't normally like the cinema, but I'm making an exception for this. Been watching the Alien films in preparation Aliens is definitely my favourite.

[Rusty Oysterburger]

Anyone going to the midnight screening at the Fact on Friday?

[Golden_Child]

Just booked 10 IMAX tickets for this to go see it with my mates. Can't fucking wait and the piss up afterwards should be almost as epic.

[se9R.F.L]

seeing it tonight now. woo!

[quote author=ShatnersBassoon link=topic=277716.msg10410338#msg10410338
Leicester square?
Im rushing my bollocks off to get home from leavesden, which is a c*nt, shit shower and make my way down there.
Mission but i think Im gonna make it!

[ShatnersBassoon]

Leicester square?
Im rushing my bollocks off to get home from leavesden, which is a c*nt, shit shower and make my way down there.
Mission but i think Im gonna make it!

yep. cast&crew screening which I only found out about an hour ago... I just work round the corner luckily!

[Casablancas]

Lucky bastards. You best post some spoiler free opinions within seconds of the end credits rolling.

The midnight showing at the Odeon in Liverpool One looks around 80% booked, will probably sell out.

[Kashinoda]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1446714/board/thread/199682701

[Pyro]

i can't really look too much into reviews. i wouldn't say reviewers have an agenda, but i sometimes get the feeling their reviews are more favourable or slightly negative towards genres they like/dislike. i'll wait for a proper a sci-fi/horror/alien franchise fan has their say.

[mart356]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1446714/board/thread/199682701

Not bad, mostly positive reviews then

[Nicky English]

Is this seriously coming out abroad before the US?

I've literally been basing my entire life on it coming out on June 1st. Argh.

[ShatnersBassoon]

I really wanted to love this movie. I worked on it and was looking forward to it for so long but the plot is just a mess.

It's a lesson in not letting a Lost writer anywhere near your fucking film. They should have just made
it an out and out prequel and kept it simple or done something completely new. Instead it's a jumbled mess that sits somewhere in between. the pacing is completely off and although it picks up in the final third it's just poorly threaded and written.

On the positive side there's some great scenes and tense moments. The general design, art, sets, fx etc are all flawless but it's a wasted opportunity.

Sorry to be a downer. :/

[Golden_Child]

@Shatner: Any way of explaining why the plot is a mess without spoiling the ending?

Does it not make any sense? Does it not link into alien in any way? Is it all existential bollocks with no real meaning? Is it just a flat out action/horror flick?

[Andy @ Allerton]

I really wanted to love this movie. I worked on it and was looking forward to it for so long but the plot is just a mess.

It's a lesson in not letting a Lost writer anywhere near your fucking film. They should have just made
it an out and out prequel and kept it simple or done something completely new. Instead it's a jumbled mess that sits somewhere in between. the pacing is completely off and although it picks up in the final third it's just poorly threaded and written.

On the positive side there's some great scenes and tense moments. The general design, art, sets, fx etc are all flawless but it's a wasted opportunity.

Sorry to be a downer. :/

As Ridley Scott said though - what's the point of just making a prequel? What's the point of making a story where you already know the ending? Look at the first three Star Wars films and the shit they got for doing just that.

I'm looking forward to it even more now if people find the script confusing - especially since I'll be watching it twice on the same day - gives me a chance to think about it and work out what's going on by the second one. And don't forget this is part one of a two parter where Ridley Scott promised a lot of stuff in this one is clarified and revealed which sounds interesting.

The good thing for me is that there are so many negatives and so many positives. Where films just get positives I find them predictible, bland, largely pointless and childish. This one sounds a lot more promising.

[ShatnersBassoon]

It's paced badly. There's some muddled pretentious nonsense and too many threads that either dont lead anywhere, appear out of nowhere or just feel tacked on sloppily.

It's better than alien resurrection but not even close to the first 3

[ShatnersBassoon]

As Ridley Scott said though - what's the point of just making a prequel? What's the point of making a story where you already know the ending? Look at the first three Star Wars films and the shit they got for doing just that.

I'm looking forward to it even more now if people find the script confusing - especially since I'll be watching it twice on the same day - gives me a chance to think about it and work out what's going on by the second one. And don't forget this is part one of a two parter where Ridley Scott promised a lot of stuff in this one is clarified and revealed which sounds interesting.

The good thing for me is that there are so many negatives and so many positives. Where films just get positives I find them predictible, bland, largely pointless and childish. This one sounds a lot more promising.

That's fine but they should have just severed it completely. When they tried to tie it in is when it became muddled. Some parts felt tacked on to appease fans or something. Without them making sense to the story they were trying to tell

I'm seeing it again on the weekend so maybe my opinion will change. Bit initial reaction is disappointment at a missed opportunity.

[Andy @ Allerton]

That's fine but they should have just severed it completely. When they tried to tie it in is when it became muddled. Some parts felt tacked on to appease fans or something. Without them making sense to the story they were trying to tell

Ace - I'm a fan, so I've got a feeling that I'll like it. Thanks for the review though mate.

Still can't wait

It would have to be utter dogshit for me not to give it 9.5

[se9R.F.L]

I really liked it.
Its not perfect but it shouldn't be looked at as a straight up prequel.
Its some of the most stunning cinema I've ever seen. I mean, visually, you don,t know where to look, its beautiful.
Its also humorous, fucking gross, epic, and intimate all at the same time.

Shatnersbassoon, i think you're being harsh, although i can totally see where you're coming from. some will be hugely disappointed i think... but not me, i liked it.

[ShatnersBassoon]

I really liked it.
Its not perfect but it shouldn't be looked at as a straight up prequel.
Its some of the most stunning cinema I've ever seen. I mean, visually, you don,t know where to look, its beautiful.
Its also humorous, fucking gross, epic, and intimate all at the same time.

Shatnersbassoon, i think you're being harsh, although i can totally see where you're coming from. some will be hugely disappointed i think... but not me, i liked it.

That's what I mean by wasted opportunity because it is visually excellent and some of it is brilliant. I just wish it was connected together into a better whole. Bear in mind I have spent 9 months working all hours on it so any disappointment is amplified for me :/

[se9R.F.L]

That's what I mean by wasted opportunity because it is visually excellent and some of it is brilliant. I just wish it was connected together into a better whole. Bear in mind I have spent 9 months working all hours on it so any disappointment is amplified for me :/

Will write more tomorrow. gotta be up early. sort of spoilery  so don't read it if you're gonna cry.

[Immoral King Brian Blessed]

As Ridley Scott said though - what's the point of just making a prequel? What's the point of making a story where you already know the ending? Look at the first three Star Wars films and the shit they got for doing just that.

the trilogy you vigorously defend?

[Pyro]

whoa. i don't know how to feel after reading shattners comments. although to be fair i had sort of convinced myself that the movie couldn't fail on any level with the budget they had behind it.

[RedRich84]

I really liked it.
Its not perfect but it shouldn't be looked at as a straight up prequel.
Its some of the most stunning cinema I've ever seen. I mean, visually, you don,t know where to look, its beautiful.
Its also humorous, fucking gross, epic, and intimate all at the same time.

Shatnersbassoon, i think you're being harsh, although i can totally see where you're coming from. some will be hugely disappointed i think... but not me, i liked it.

Yeah think the comments are harsh. Sounds like we're on the same wavelength - it was very good, but not the amazing spectacle we have been geared up to expect. As I mentioned previously in the thread, a solid 7.

Andy - sounds like you'll enjoy it mate, hopefully anyway, you've been looking forward to it for long enough 

[Andy @ Allerton]

the trilogy you vigorously defend?

The very same. I like them personally, but I can see where people are coming from with a lot of their views. Like the transition from fairly decent bloke to child murdering loon - just happened too fast. But I liked them myself.

But then again I'm a big fan of the Science Fiction/Fantasy Genre so most of the films get the thumbs up from me. Usually because of reasons different than most other people are looking at. I'm a big fan of pulp Science Fiction (You can get tons of free short stories off the internet) and for me it's always quite entertaining seeing ideas and stuff from other authors and genres that have found a way into the films.

[Sharado]

Oh dear. This has Phantom Menace vibes abounding. Andy's even blidndly defending it vigorously before he's seen it.

It's going to be pony. Bugger.

*sits and waits for TDKR*

[Chavvie]

Can anyone tell me what sort of job Idris Elba does please? I know he's only a supporting character in this but I think he's class in Luther.