Author Topic: Liverpool sign huge kit deal - Warrior to replace Adidas (Read 111297 times)

Loop · « **Reply #600 on:** April 22, 2011, 04:38:58 AM »

Quote from: Vork+The Knights of Good on April 22, 2011, 04:23:54 AM

I'd be curious to know how most supporters living abroad go about purchasing their kits. Online or through local shops?

I am from Australia. I purchase them through the LFC online store. It is cheaper then buying the shirts from stores over here.

Holwing Fantod · « **Reply #601 on:** April 22, 2011, 04:41:08 AM »

Quote from: LiverBirdKop on April 22, 2011, 04:37:49 AM

Name me 1 american sports club that was founded before 1892 or thereabouts.

The St. Louis Cardinals were founded in 1882 as the St. Louis Brown Stockings. Much like Liverpool, their colors changed early on, but they are the same organization that exists today.

LiverBirdKop · « **Reply #602 on:** April 22, 2011, 04:41:52 AM »

Quote from: Theon on April 22, 2011, 04:38:43 AM

New York Yankees. 1901.

That's a decade later. The poster I was addressing said "Most of the oldest clubs are as old if not older than established football clubs" which is not accurate.

Theon · « **Reply #603 on:** April 22, 2011, 04:43:32 AM »

LiverBirdKop,

Take your pick: http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/history/mlb_history_teams.jsp

postblue · « **Reply #604 on:** April 22, 2011, 04:44:46 AM »

wow, well this is kind of unexpected. Seems like they've never actually made football kits before so will be interesting to see how they look like...

MBL? · « **Reply #605 on:** April 22, 2011, 04:45:52 AM »

Quote from: hugoboss on April 22, 2011, 04:33:40 AM

So why the comment about Adidas and Milan?

Because you asked a poster what Milan had to do with his suggestion that Beckham only signed for Adidas teams after the mancs.

penwhen · « **Reply #606 on:** April 22, 2011, 04:46:20 AM »

If anyone is interested, in the US, it's quite difficult to go into a shop (other than a specialty "soccer" shop that mainly sells equipment) and get an LFC jersey, or almost any football jersey. Most sporting goods stores carry very few if any football tops (more around the World Cup of course).

In my local mall, we have both an Adidas and a New Balance store. The Adidas store has, at most, 5 LFC tops at a time, all Gerrard (they used to have Torres), not much choice in size, and very little if any other LFC merchandise. I've been in when there was staff that wasn't even aware it was there. They cannot put other names/numbers on the tops. The New Balance store sells high quality running shoes and some running clothes with well trained staff.

LiverBirdKop · « **Reply #607 on:** April 22, 2011, 04:46:25 AM »

Quote from: Theon on April 22, 2011, 04:43:32 AM

LiverBirdKop,

Take your pick: http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/history/mlb_history_teams.jsp

Yet to see about "most of the oldest clubs".....

ryatnalkar · « **Reply #608 on:** April 22, 2011, 04:46:34 AM »

U.S. sports realized the money game since early 70's. So there were a lot of changes since then, its not like there are no old clubs, but not a lot who are successful. Plus, Football doesnt realize it, but the system of relegation is what keeps teams so competitive and builds a culture amongst fans, that is so lacking in US sports that the lower team owners, IMO almost always take undue advantage of fans, play one or two good players, others lame and still play in the same league, year after year and earn a lot of money!

Morale of the story, seriously, nothing like Football!!!

snowlion · « **Reply #609 on:** April 22, 2011, 04:47:51 AM »

I'm excited about the money. I am sure Warrior/New Balance will be financially motivated to create a good kit. If research companies know Liverpool sells around 1 million shirts/yr, then I'm sure Ayre thought about quality when pursuing a new kit manufacturer. Now, let's get some awesome players over the summer and march towards No. 19.

Also, can't wait for the hopefully 35+ million Coca-Cola deal.

hugoboss · « **Reply #610 on:** April 22, 2011, 04:49:18 AM »

Quote from: Martin Broughton's Lovechild on April 22, 2011, 04:45:52 AM

Because you asked a poster what Milan had to do with his suggestion that Beckham only signed for Adidas teams after the mancs.

Yeah well he was trying to suggest Adidas had something to do with him playing for only Adidas sponsored clubs

Holwing Fantod · « **Reply #611 on:** April 22, 2011, 04:49:32 AM »

Quote from: LiverBirdKop on April 22, 2011, 04:46:25 AM

Yet to see about "most of the oldest clubs".....

Nine teams were established before 1892 (some by 20 years) and 7 more were established around the turn of the century. So 16 roughly around the same time or before.

hugoboss · « **Reply #612 on:** April 22, 2011, 04:50:31 AM »

Quote from: snowlion on April 22, 2011, 04:47:51 AM

I'm excited about the money. I am sure Warrior/New Balance will be financially motivated to create a good kit. If research companies know Liverpool sells around 1 million shirts/yr, then I'm sure Ayre thought about quality when pursuing a new kit manufacturer. Now, let's get some awesome players over the summer and march towards No. 19.

Also, can't wait for the hopefully 35+ million Coca-Cola deal.

Rather have Microsoft

Vork+The Knights of Good · « **Reply #613 on:** April 22, 2011, 04:50:38 AM »

Quote from: Loop on April 22, 2011, 04:38:58 AM

I am from Australia. I purchase them through the LFC online store. It is cheaper then buying the shirts from stores over here.

Cheers. Same for me (California instead of Australia, though).

Theon · « **Reply #614 on:** April 22, 2011, 04:50:57 AM »

Maybe I am misinterpreting this comment: "Name me 1 american sports club that was founded before 1892 or thereabouts."?

8 baseball teams were founded before 1892. Not quite sure how I am screwing this up.

blah · « **Reply #615 on:** April 22, 2011, 04:51:19 AM »

Quote from: snowlion on April 22, 2011, 04:47:51 AM

Also, can't wait for the hopefully 35+ million Coca-Cola deal.

I was just thinking a few weeks ago if Coca-Cola became our kit sponsor. Oh the money we would get and if you put Kenny in the kit we would have a 12 pack.

Quote from: hugoboss on April 22, 2011, 04:50:31 AM

Rather have Microsoft

Apple.

MotownRed · « **Reply #616 on:** April 22, 2011, 04:52:01 AM »

Quote from: penwhen on April 22, 2011, 04:12:46 AM

I'm not sure why so many are assuming that because they are an American manufacturer, the kit will look cheap or won't honor a classic aesthetic. Take the Detroit Red Wings sweater above--it hasn't changed... ever. Detroit is one of the most iconic brands in hockey, if not all of North American sport. I believe CCM made it before Warrior. If Warrior, who are just breaking into the market, had changed that sweater, not only Red Wings fans, but most American and Canadian sport fans, would have noticed and protested. I think we shouldn't jump to conclusions.

spot on, the Red Wings are the best team in hockey, and an equivalent of LFC, their captain Nick Lidstrom is a big red by the way....

"Lovin' Liverpool: When it comes to soccer, his loyalty is to the club at Anfield.

"Favorite soccer team growing up, yeah, I've always been a Liverpool fan," Lidstrom said.

A trip to Anfield is on the bucket list. "I'd love to, never been. A lot of my friends have gone," he said."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/story?columnist=lebrun_pierre&id=5918807/

TheReturnof7heKing · « **Reply #617 on:** April 22, 2011, 04:52:38 AM »

Quote from: PJG on April 22, 2011, 12:07:21 AM

What the shit is warrior?

This is my favourite

LiverBirdKop · « **Reply #618 on:** April 22, 2011, 04:52:45 AM »

Quote from: Holwing Fantod on April 22, 2011, 04:49:32 AM

Nine teams were established before 1892 (some by 20 years) and 7 more were established around the turn of the century. So 16 roughly around the same time or before.

Ok, you said "most of the oldest clubs" and you were talking about hockey.....let it go already, this is not what the thread is about.

The_Last_Don · « **Reply #619 on:** April 22, 2011, 04:53:36 AM »

if it means another suarez in a warrior top rather than a konchesky in an addidas top then i'm all f-ing for it!!!!

hugoboss · « **Reply #620 on:** April 22, 2011, 04:54:20 AM »

Quote from: blah on April 22, 2011, 04:51:19 AM

I was just thinking a few weeks ago if Coca-Cola became our kit sponsor. Oh the money we would get and if you put Kenny in the kit we would have a 12 pack.

Apple.

Google

LiverBirdKop · « **Reply #621 on:** April 22, 2011, 04:54:58 AM »

Quote from: hugoboss on April 22, 2011, 04:50:31 AM

Rather have Microsoft

With a blue background to make it more appropriate.

blah · « **Reply #622 on:** April 22, 2011, 04:55:38 AM »

Quote from: hugoboss on April 22, 2011, 04:54:20 AM

Google

I wish someone with some spare time could make mock ups of our kit with those sponsors, id get a kick out of it.

Holwing Fantod · « **Reply #623 on:** April 22, 2011, 04:56:04 AM »

Quote from: LiverBirdKop on April 22, 2011, 04:52:45 AM

Ok, you said "most of the oldest clubs" and you were talking about hockey.....let it go already, this is not what the thread is about.

Huh? I was talking about baseball. My original point was germane to the discussion. This tangent we're now on isn't, that's true.

hugoboss · « **Reply #624 on:** April 22, 2011, 04:56:49 AM »

Quote from: LiverBirdKop on April 22, 2011, 04:54:58 AM

With a blue background to make it more appropriate.

Dunno bout you but I have Suarez as my background

nocturnalvin · « **Reply #625 on:** April 22, 2011, 04:58:02 AM »

I will update as soon as i get confirmation.

Personal opinion ? Bad news.

MBL? · « **Reply #626 on:** April 22, 2011, 04:58:32 AM »

Quote from: blah on April 22, 2011, 04:55:38 AM

I wish someone with some spare time could make mock ups of our kit with those sponsors, id get a kick out of it.

There is a thread around here somewhere with loads in it including the ones mentioned here. Search for new shirt sponsor or something.

Quote from: nocturnalvin on April 22, 2011, 04:58:02 AM

I will update as soon as i get confirmation.

Personal opinion ? Bad news.

Update what?

postblue · « **Reply #627 on:** April 22, 2011, 05:00:33 AM »

Jen Chang tweeted some info:
JenChang88
Times reporting Liverpool have signed biggest shirt deal in UK history - Warrior Sports will pay £25M a year from 2012-13 to make LFC's kit.
Background on Warrior for those in UK unfamiliar with brand - it's been till now a hockey/lacrosse manufacturer & subsidiary of New Balance.
Parent company New Balance had revenues of $1.8 billion in 2010. Deal with LFC possibly an offshoot of NB's own recent deal with Red Sox.
Previous biggest UK shirt manufacturing deal was the £23.3M that Nike pays Man United (contract expires in 2015 I believe).
With no debt to pay off, I'd guess this puts LFC's annual spending power of around £65M net, without including CL revenue or player sales.
That LFC transfer figure of £65M/$107M is purely hypothetical on my part using very loose estimates (once upon a time I worked in finance).
Actually I goofed, think it's prob closer to £53M/$87M a year for LFC, but a very loose approx, would need to do a DCF for real estimate.

dosx · « **Reply #628 on:** April 22, 2011, 05:01:36 AM »

Quote

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1379466/Liverpools-mammoth-25m-year-Warrior-kit-deal-rewrites-record-books.html

nocturnalvin · « **Reply #629 on:** April 22, 2011, 05:06:50 AM »

Quote from: Martin Broughton's Lovechild on April 22, 2011, 04:58:32 AM

Update what?

Spoke to adidas, they are internally waiting for confirmation as well.

I hope its not true though.

dosx · « **Reply #630 on:** April 22, 2011, 05:07:11 AM »

MJL · « **Reply #631 on:** April 22, 2011, 05:08:35 AM »

Will be sad to see Adidas go, but if the speculated amount of money is true then this is a no-brainer; massive positive.

nocturnalvin · « **Reply #632 on:** April 22, 2011, 05:09:49 AM »

Quote from: MJL on April 22, 2011, 05:08:35 AM

Will be sad to see Adidas go, but if the speculated amount of money is true then this is a no-brainer; massive positive.

It isn't a no brainer. And i think.... quite possibly, the owners might have screwed up quite a bit on this one.

blah · « **Reply #633 on:** April 22, 2011, 05:10:36 AM »

Quote from: MJL on April 22, 2011, 05:08:35 AM

Will be sad to see Adidas go, but if the speculated amount of money is true then this is a no-brainer; massive positive.

I want to know why Adidas couldn't cough up 25m when some small company no one has really heard of overhere in the states could.

hugoboss · « **Reply #634 on:** April 22, 2011, 05:11:15 AM »

Quote from: nocturnalvin on April 22, 2011, 05:06:50 AM

Spoke to adidas, they are internally waiting for confirmation as well.

I hope its not true though.

why?

MBL? · « **Reply #635 on:** April 22, 2011, 05:11:46 AM »

Quote from: nocturnalvin on April 22, 2011, 05:06:50 AM

Spoke to adidas, they are internally waiting for confirmation as well.

I hope its not true though.

Its more than twice the money though. Other than a few small concerns whats not to like?

lovestospooge · « **Reply #636 on:** April 22, 2011, 05:13:41 AM »

Quote from: nocturnalvin on April 22, 2011, 05:09:49 AM

It isn't a no brainer. And i think.... quite possibly, the owners might have screwed up quite a bit on this one.

financially or aesthetically?

LiverBirdKop · « **Reply #637 on:** April 22, 2011, 05:16:14 AM »

Quote from: nocturnalvin on April 22, 2011, 05:09:49 AM

It isn't a no brainer. And i think.... quite possibly, the owners might have screwed up quite a bit on this one.

How so??

MolbyLovesGravy · « **Reply #638 on:** April 22, 2011, 05:17:18 AM »

Quote from: nocturnalvin on April 22, 2011, 04:58:02 AM

I will update as soon as i get confirmation.

Personal opinion ? Bad news.

How can the largest ever shirt deal in English footie history be 'Bad News'? Seriously the only thing I can figure is from some misguided 'purist' perspective, which is fair enough, but it means you are not allowed to be even slightly happy if we sign a Hazard type player. You have to shake your head and say 'I would prefer Pennant in Adidas'.

penwhen · « **Reply #639 on:** April 22, 2011, 05:18:11 AM »

Quote from: blah on April 22, 2011, 05:10:36 AM

I want to know why Adidas couldn't cough up 25m when some small company no one has really heard of overhere in the states could.

Warrior is trying to enter the football market. In order to do that, they are paying through the nose to get a big, worldwide name to get it's brand on chests all over the globe. Adidas has a lot of clubs on their books. Perhaps they were willing to increase the contract, but not match the money and other incentives that Warrior was willing to offer in order to lure Liverpool.