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Attack on 'blasphemous' art work fires debate on role of religion in France

• Intruders vandalise photo day after Christian protest
• Exhibitor blames Sarkozy speech for inflaming issue

    Angelique Chrisafis in Paris
    guardian.co.uk, Monday 18 April 2011 20.00 BST
 
When New York artist Andres Serrano plunged a plastic crucifix into a glass of his own urine and photographed it in 1987 under the title Piss Christ, he said he was making a statement on the misuse of religion.

Controversy has followed the work ever since, but reached an unprecedented peak on Palm Sunday when it was attacked with hammers and destroyed after an "anti-blasphemy" campaign by French Catholic fundamentalists in the southern city of Avignon.

The violent slashing of the picture, and another Serrano photograph of a meditating nun, has plunged secular France into soul-searching about Christian fundamentalism and Nicolas Sarkozy's use of religious populism in his bid for re-election next year.

It also marks a return to an old standoff between Serrano and the religious right that dates back more than 20 years, to Reagan-era Republicanism in the US.

The photograph, full title Immersion (Piss Christ), was made in 1987 as part of Serrano's series showing religious objects submerged in fluids such as blood and milk. In 1989, rightwing Christian senators' criticism of Piss Christ led to a heated US debate on public arts funding. Republican Jesse Helms told the senate Serrano was "not an artist. He's a jerk."

Serrano defended his photograph as a criticism of the "billion-dollar Christ-for-profit industry" and a "condemnation of those who abuse the teachings of Christ for their own ignoble ends". It was vandalised in Australia, and neo-Nazis ransacked a Serrano show in Sweden in 2007.

The photograph had been shown in France several times without incident. For four months, it has hung in the exhibition I Believe in Miracles, to mark 10 years of art-dealer Yvon Lambert's personal collection in his 18th-century mansion gallery in Avignon. The show is due to end next month, but two weeks ago a concerted protest campaign began.

Civitas, a lobby group that says it aims to re-Christianize France, launched an online petition and mobilised other fundamentalist groups. The staunchly conservative archbishop of Vaucluse, Jean-Pierre Cattenoz, called Piss Christ "odious" and said he wanted this "trash" taken off the gallery walls. Last week the gallery complained of "extremist harassment" by fundamentalist Christian groups who wanted the work banned in France.

Lambert, one of France's best known art dealers, complained he was being "persecuted" by extremists who had sent him tens of thousands of complaint emails and bombarded the museum with spam. He likened the atmosphere to "a return to the middle ages".

On Saturday, around 1,000 Christian protesters marched through Avignon to the gallery. The protest group included a regional councillor for the extreme-right Front National, which recently scored well in the Vaucluse area in local elections. The gallery immediately stepped up security, putting plexiglass in front of the photograph and assigning two gallery guards to stand in front of it.

But on Palm Sunday morning, four people in sunglasses aged between 18 and 25 entered the exhibition just after it opened at 11am. One took a hammer out of his sock and threatened the guards with it. A guard grabbed another man around the waist but within seconds the group managed to take a hammer to the plexiglass screen and slash the photograph with another sharp object, thought to be a screwdriver or ice-pick. They also smashed another work, which showed the hands of a meditating nun.

The gallery director, Eric Mézil, said it would reopen with the destroyed works on show "so people can see what barbarians can do". He said there had been a kind of "inquisition" against the art work.

In a statement, he said the movement against Piss Christ had started at the time of President Nicolas Sarkozy's ruling UMP party's controversial debate on religion and secularism in France. At a record low in the polls before next year's presidential election, Sarkozy has been accused of using anti-Muslim and extreme-right rhetoric to appeal to voters and counter the rise of the Front National.

Asked by the daily Libération why the Piss Christ protest had happened now, Mézil pointed to Sarkozy's speech in March lauding "the Christian heritage of France" at Puy-en-Velay, where the first Crusades were preached.

He said: "Clearly we saw in Saturday's demonstration that a Catholic fringe wanted to take the president at his word, with extremely violent appeals." He said there was a climate of tension, with protesters insulting museum staff of north African origin. One guard said he heard: "I'm going to pour donkey piss on the Qur'an." An email to the museum talked about "plunging the diary of Anne Frank in urine".

The French culture minister, Frédéric Mitterrand, condemned the vandalism as an attack on the fundamental freedoms of creation and expression, but recognised that the art work could shock audiences.

The secretary general of Civitas, Alan Escada, told Le Dauphiné Libéré paper: "I don't support or condemn what happened," adding that the attack on the picture "reflects an understandable exasperation" with the museum.

A police complaint has been filed by the gallery and the guards.

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If they can take the burqas off the Muslims, why can't they take the hammers off the Catholics?

Bloody idiots.


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Is there a day throughout the year when the French aren't protesting about something?
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Hmmm, 3 of my least favourite things in one thread. Religion, modern 'art' and the French.

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anyone else wonder how peaceful a world we would have if religion didn't exist?  :o
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iconoclasm for the sake of notoriety is worthless and dated as a form of artistic expression.
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iconoclasm for the sake of notoriety is worthless and dated as a form of artistic expression.

Wothless enough to fire a debate. That's just given me an idea for a new piss piece. Thanks.
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I think it is a bit puerile to indulge in denigration of religious symbols simply because you are against religion.  However, opinions and arseholes and analogies dictate that while the religious folk have a right to protest the iconoclastic artist making a mockery out of religion, they do not have the right to try and destroy his work. 
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anyone else wonder how peaceful a world we would have if religion didn't exist?  :o

People fight over anything, even as ridiculous as different football teams. Something would fill the need for violence.
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People fight over anything, even as ridiculous as different football teams. Something would fill the need for violence.

It's just human nature, being bitches and the need to fight for irrelevant bullshit.
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People fight over anything, even as ridiculous as different football teams. Something would fill the need for violence.

True to an extent, but there can be little doubt the world would be a better and safer place without religion.

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anyone else wonder how peaceful a world we would have if religion didn't exist?  :o

Yeah, peaceful as life in Stalin's atheist paradise I guess.  Back to school for you I'm afraid.
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True to an extent, but there can be little doubt the world would be a better and safer place without religion.

Oh fucking dear.
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I seem to remember starting a topic on what the world would be like if religion never existed. It was an interesting thread until of course it got destroyed :D by religious fanatics :D
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True to an extent, but there can be little doubt the world would be a better and safer place without religion.

I can say that about football too.
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I seem to remember starting a topic on what the world would be like if religion never existed. It was an interesting thread until of course it got destroyed :D by religious fanatics :D

How can you even postulate what a world where religion had never existed would be like given that pretty much every society has developed some sort of religion from pre-history onwards.
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Oh fucking dear.

Sorry, I must be misinterpreting the acts I see on t.v and read about in newspapers that are committed in the name of religion. I didn't know religion kept the masses in check and made today's world the utopia it is.

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I can say that about football too.

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How can you even postulate what a world where religion had never existed would be like given that pretty much every society has developed some sort of religion from pre-history onwards.

Because scientific facts weren't around  ;)
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How can you even postulate what a world where religion had never existed would be like given that pretty much every society has developed some sort of religion from pre-history onwards.
I dunno, but I started a thread on it, and you were involved :P so ask yourself that question too!
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Feel free.

It's pretty simple to say 'Without x' the world would be a safer place. Well yeah, but if you go down that road you'll remove every reason to live and end up in a sensory deprivation box.
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True to an extent, but there can be little doubt the world would be a better and safer place without religion.
Ah yes religon is the root of all evil! surely their would be world peace without it!!...

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It's pretty simple to say 'Without x' the world would be a safer place. Well yeah, but if you go down that road you'll remove every reason to live and end up in a sensory deprivation box.

You can't really equate football with religion though. How many people are murdered each year in the name of religion? How much misery does it cause? If football caused the same amount of pain and suffering I'd be all for banning it, but it doesn't.

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How many people life their lives in a respectable manner due to religon? maybe without religon and their rules they would do something else even worse? can look at it both ways. Alot of people have found peace and turned their lifes around with religon but don't let that stop the athiest bashing it at every chance.
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Ah yes religon is the root of all evil! surely their would be world peace without it!!...

I didn't suggest there would be world peace, as FS said people would find other things to fight over but I'm sure those things would be easier to resolve and wouldn't be so long-lasting.
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You can't really equate football with religion though. How many people are murdered each year in the name of religion? How much misery does it cause? If football caused the same amount of pain and suffering I'd be all for banning it, but it doesn't.

Religion is thousands of years old, football a few hundred. Yet you have things like racism, murders for wearing the wrong shirt, hooliganism, violence and immense corruption.

The point is if you flicked a wand and vanished religion in an eyeblink something will come along and take its place, because humanity has demonstrated that they are willing to kill each other over inconsequential things like sport. Even if we were all godless atheists we will find something to kill each other for.
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How many people life their lives in a respectable manner due to religon? maybe without religon and their rules they would do something else even worse? can look at it both ways.

Any normal person could live in a respectable manner without religion. Certainly everybody I know.

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Even if we were all godless atheists we will find something to kill each other for.

Only if you were that way inclined in the first place.

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Only if you were that way inclined in the first place.

So in other words violence and suffering has nothing to do with religion.
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iconoclasm for the sake of notoriety is worthless and dated as a form of artistic expression.

I'm not sure this qualifies as iconoclasm.

I think it is a bit puerile to indulge in denigration of religious symbols simply because you are against religion. 

You have to read the full article. The artist isn't against religion per se.

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Serrano defended his photograph as a criticism of the "billion-dollar Christ-for-profit industry" and a "condemnation of those who abuse the teachings of Christ for their own ignoble ends".

Seems to me he admires the christian thing in and of itself, he just has a problem with the way people use it.

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So in other words violence and suffering has nothing to do with religion.

That's not what I meant, people are 'that way inclined' and that is the problem. Take away the cause and they have no war to fight. Like you say they will look for another vehicle, but I don't believe for one second they would find one as far-reaching and convenient as religion.

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Politics then. Nationalism. The way you cut a boiled egg. Let it settle for a thousand years, then shake. I think the fact that people will kill over something as bloody stupid as a sport speaks volumes for the natural tendencies of the human condition.
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Just put it back up as is, even better now surely.
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That's not what I meant, people are 'that way inclined' and that is the problem. Take away the cause and they have no war to fight. Like you say they will look for another vehicle, but I don't believe for one second they would find one as far-reaching and convenient as religion.

But what about people who repress violent tendencies because of a belief in a higher power. I'm sure there are some.

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But what about people who repress violent tendencies because of a belief in a higher power. I'm sure there are some.

Yes, usually in prison, having "found" faith after killing someone.

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Yes, usually in prison, having "found" faith after killing someone.

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I asked a Mod before starting this thread because I feared it would go the same way as the Atheist and Burqa threads.

Look, this story is not about whether religion is a force for good or evil or whatever. It's about freedom of expression, respect for religion and where the lines cross. Quite a few people have clearly read the title to the topic and a few lines and drawn their own incorrect conclusions.

The artist Serrano has gone on record as saying he is basically a christian, and was raised a catholic. He said he has catholic obsessions, and in the article above, as I already pointed out, he decries those who would abuse the teachings of Christ. This guy is not dipping a crucifix in piss for the laugh (or maybe he is, and lying about it) but either way, can we please consider the article and the import of same before lazily hopping on the Religion = Bad bus.


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I dunno, but I started a thread on it, and you were involved :P so ask yourself that question too!

The question is unanswerable.  Looking at what we do know.  I would say that each iteration of religion has generally been more "civilised" than the religion or blief system that it has replaced.  And that most of the world's religions are essentially an attempt to kerb our animal natures. 
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Just put it back up as is, even better now surely.

Getting back on topic I agree totally with this Bryan.  The piece is now much more powerful, exhibit it as it is with a history outlined on the info next to it.  I remember the initial furore that surrounded the work back in the late 80's with Jesse Helms leading the baying bigots. 

I don't think it is iconoclasm though, I think it is more a mirror to how we have misrepresented religion.  So the attack by religious nutters is kinda fitting really
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I asked a Mod before starting this thread because I feared it would go the same way as the Atheist and Burqa threads.

Look, this story is not about whether religion is a force for good or evil or whatever. It's about freedom of expression, respect for religion and where the lines cross. Quite a few people have clearly read the title to the topic and a few lines and drawn their own incorrect conclusions.

The artist Serrano has gone on record as saying he is basically a christian, and was raised a catholic. He said he has catholic obsessions, and in the article above, as I already pointed out, he decries those who would abuse the teachings of Christ. This guy is not dipping a crucifix in piss for the laugh (or maybe he is, and lying about it) but either way, can we please consider the article and the import of same before lazily hopping on the Religion = Bad bus.

Just looked at Wiki and Sister Wendy likes it.  Which is good enough for me ;)
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