Author Topic: Mass Effect 3- New Info (Read 13656 times)

PhilV · « **Reply #280 on:** March 20, 2012, 11:25:38 AM »

Quote from: voodoo ray on March 20, 2012, 11:16:42 AM

There's that and there's also the import fuck up. Once they fix that I'll have another bash.

But it is bizarre how they went for a decision that causes people not to want to replay it.

Haven't heard anything about that, what's the deal there?

voodoo ray · « **Reply #281 on:** March 20, 2012, 12:10:16 PM »

Quote from: PhilV on March 20, 2012, 11:25:38 AM

Haven't heard anything about that, what's the deal there?

It doesn't recognise ME1 imported faces.

Talk about a ridiculous fuck up. I honestly can't even fathom how that made it into the game.

pepe_carra_stevie_nando · « **Reply #282 on:** March 20, 2012, 12:57:49 PM »

Quote from: PhilV on March 20, 2012, 09:27:14 AM

They say that the ME Universe does not end here, there will be more but just with new characters and whatnot... beating this trilogy's storyline is gonna be some task mind!! The only thing I can think off would be something set in the days of the Prothean Empire, with them as bad guys trying to expand their empire and you being some up and coming civilization fighting for independence or something, I dunno...

I would love a game set during the Prothean Empire. Seeing how far reaching and advanced they actually were would be cool. If not the Protheans, a civilisation from a few million years ago would be nice.

Drinks Sangria · « **Reply #283 on:** March 20, 2012, 01:10:20 PM »

If they do a spin-off rpg, they could make it entirely 'open-galaxy' as such and have a Skyrim-esque option to be a different Species. Then have different storylines/ reactions dependent on who you chose. Cool to be a Turian or Krogan.

pepe_carra_stevie_nando · « **Reply #284 on:** March 20, 2012, 03:43:56 PM »

Quote from: Drinks Sangria on March 20, 2012, 01:10:20 PM

If they do a spin-off rpg, they could make it entirely 'open-galaxy' as such and have a Skyrim-esque option to be a different Species. Then have different storylines/ reactions dependent on who you chose. Cool to be a Turian or Krogan.

That would be alright but if they were to make another game then I would want them to move away from that period. Something earlier or even perhaps future (thousands or millions) of years ahead.

Okkervil · « **Reply #285 on:** March 20, 2012, 07:40:30 PM »

Quote from: OsirisMVZ on March 20, 2012, 09:57:24 AM

Yeah spot on. It's strange, I want to play it because I enjoyed it so much up until the last hour or so's gameplay, but there is just no reason to pick it up again.

stoa · « **Reply #286 on:** March 20, 2012, 11:38:44 PM »

Quote from: Okkervil on March 20, 2012, 07:40:30 PM

Yeah spot on. It's strange, I want to play it because I enjoyed it so much up until the last hour or so's gameplay, but there is just no reason to pick it up again.

But there still is a reason. For me it would be having a look at how the game develops, if you make a different choice. How some situations change. That would make me want to give it another go.

After completing the game, I'm still happy that I've played it, because I got a lot of hours of fun out of it. I also enjoyed the various stories and relationships with NPCs. What I didn't enjoy was the ending...

OsirisMVZ · « **Reply #287 on:** March 21, 2012, 07:37:04 AM »

stoa · « **Reply #288 on:** March 21, 2012, 12:53:04 PM »

Quote from: OsirisMVZ on March 21, 2012, 07:37:04 AM

Drinks Sangria · « **Reply #289 on:** March 21, 2012, 04:05:46 PM »

Quote from: stoa on March 21, 2012, 12:53:04 PM

You're not getting it wrong mate, what you said in the first spoiler tag is right. (Speaking of which, how do you do the spolier tags? Rather than me just writing that I'm gonna use a spoiler-->) SPOILERS The three endings are almost exactly the same and they all suck, they disregard all your choices and are superbly unsatisfying. It creates so many plot holes as well. Great video that is bang on the money about it's problems - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H_A7SeawU4

Okkervil · « **Reply #290 on:** March 21, 2012, 05:08:52 PM »

http://blog.bioware.com/2012/03/21/4108/

To Mass Effect 3 players, from Dr. Ray Muzyka, co-founder of BioWare

As co-founder and GM of BioWare, I’m very proud of the ME3 team; I personally believe Mass Effect 3 is the best work we’ve yet created. So, it’s incredibly painful to receive feedback from our core fans that the game’s endings were not up to their expectations. Our first instinct is to defend our work and point to the high ratings offered by critics – but out of respect to our fans, we need to accept the criticism and feedback with humility.

I believe passionately that games are an art form, and that the power of our medium flows from our audience, who are deeply involved in how the story unfolds, and who have the uncontested right to provide constructive criticism. At the same time, I also believe in and support the artistic choices made by the development team. The team and I have been thinking hard about how to best address the comments on ME3’s endings from players, while still maintaining the artistic integrity of the game.

Mass Effect 3 concludes a trilogy with so much player control and ownership of the story that it was hard for us to predict the range of emotions players would feel when they finished playing through it. The journey you undertake in Mass Effect provokes an intense range of highly personal emotions in the player; even so, the passionate reaction of some of our most loyal players to the current endings in Mass Effect 3 is something that has genuinely surprised us. This is an issue we care about deeply, and we will respond to it in a fair and timely way. We’re already working hard to do that.

To that end, since the game launched, the team has been poring over everything they can find about reactions to the game – industry press, forums, Facebook, and Twitter, just to name a few. The Mass Effect team, like other teams across the BioWare Label within EA, consists of passionate people who work hard for the love of creating experiences that excite and delight our fans. I’m honored to work with them because they have the courage and strength to respond to constructive feedback.

Building on their research, Exec Producer Casey Hudson and the team are hard at work on a number of game content initiatives that will help answer the questions, providing more clarity for those seeking further closure to their journey. You’ll hear more on this in April. We’re working hard to maintain the right balance between the artistic integrity of the original story while addressing the fan feedback we’ve received. This is in addition to our existing plan to continue providing new Mass Effect content and new full games, so rest assured that your journey in the Mass Effect universe can, and will, continue.

The reaction to the release of Mass Effect 3 has been unprecedented. On one hand, some of our loyal fans are passionately expressing their displeasure about how their game concluded; we care about this feedback, and we’re planning to directly address it. However, most folks appear to agree that the game as a whole is exceptional, with more than 75 critics giving it a perfect review score and a review average in the mid-90s. Net, I’m proud of the team, but we can and must always strive to do better.

Some of the criticism that has been delivered in the heat of passion by our most ardent fans, even if founded on valid principles, such as seeking more clarity to questions or looking for more closure, for example – has unfortunately become destructive rather than constructive. We listen and will respond to constructive criticism, but much as we will not tolerate individual attacks on our team members, we will not support or respond to destructive commentary.

If you are a Mass Effect fan and have input for the team – we respect your opinion and want to hear it. We’re committed to address your constructive feedback as best we can. In return, I’d ask that you help us do that by supporting what I truly believe is the best game BioWare has yet crafted. I urge you to do your own research: play the game, finish it and tell us what you think. Tell your friends if you feel it’s a good game as a whole. Trust that we are doing our damndest, as always, to address your feedback. As artists, we care about our fans deeply and we appreciate your support.

Thank you for your feedback – we are listening.

Ray

Bioware are going to milk us with DLC

Eluamous · « **Reply #291 on:** March 21, 2012, 05:22:37 PM »

I just wanted some damn closure. Even an epilogue card like DA:O would've sufficed-

"Shepard then lived out his remaining years on Rannoch with Tali before contracting some kind of space-syphilis after a particularly ferocious 3-fingered handjob."

I initially disagreed with the whole "there's no point playing it again" crowd but after starting another new game you really do get the feeling nothing you do matters. Still, as has been said, it's 90% of a cracking game.

stoa · « **Reply #292 on:** March 21, 2012, 07:20:53 PM »

Quote from: Eluamous on March 21, 2012, 05:22:37 PM

I just wanted some damn closure. Even an epilogue card like DA:O would've sufficed-

"Shepard then lived out his remaining years on Rannoch with Tali before contracting some kind of space-syphilis after a particularly ferocious 3-fingered handjob."

I initially disagreed with the whole "there's no point playing it again" crowd but after starting another new game you really do get the feeling nothing you do matters. Still, as has been said, it's 90% of a cracking game.

Why does everyone like Tali? I hated her and wasn't sad at all when she died at the end of ME2 in my game...

As I've already said, I'd even pay money for a DLC that is solely flying through the universe and visit all of your buddies who are still alive... *g*

Quote from: Drinks Sangria on March 21, 2012, 04:05:46 PM

You're not getting it wrong mate, what you said in the first spoiler tag is right. (Speaking of which, how do you do the spolier tags? Rather than me just writing that I'm gonna use a spoiler-->) SPOILERS The three endings are almost exactly the same and they all suck, they disregard all your choices and are superbly unsatisfying. It creates so many plot holes as well. Great video that is bang on the money about it's problems - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H_A7SeawU4

You need to the same thing as for writing something in bold except you replace the "b" with "spoiler" both times...

And what do people think about the fights in ME3? I think they were a bit harder than in ME2, because I think I died a lot more. Especially, that fight before the end was pretty tough...

Drinks Sangria · « **Reply #293 on:** March 21, 2012, 10:47:02 PM »

Quote from: stoa on March 21, 2012, 07:20:53 PM

Why does everyone like Tali? I hated her and wasn't sad at all when she died at the end of ME2 in my game...

As I've already said, I'd even pay money for a DLC that is solely flying through the universe and visit all of your buddies who are still alive... *g*

You need to the same thing as for writing something in bold except you replace the "b" with "spoiler" both times...

And what do people think about the fights in ME3? I think they were a bit harder than in ME2, because I think I died a lot more. Especially, that fight before the end was pretty tough...

I'm ambivalent towards Tali. And I agree, the fights are harder. I played on Normal and died several times throughout the course of the campaign. I think the fights were good though. I reckon some of the bits with Banshees and Geth Prime will be very, very difficult on Insanity.

OsirisMVZ · « **Reply #294 on:** March 21, 2012, 11:01:07 PM »

I felt that from Rannoch onwards, the game's difficulty suddenly spiked upwards.

The last battle with

stoa · « **Reply #295 on:** March 21, 2012, 11:38:41 PM »

Quote from: OsirisMVZ on March 21, 2012, 11:01:07 PM

I felt that from Rannoch onwards, the game's difficulty suddenly spiked upwards.

The last battle with

Drinks Sangria · « **Reply #296 on:** March 22, 2012, 12:36:46 AM »

Having heard about the indoctrination theory, I stumbled across this video and have decided Bioware just cannot be so inept. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZOyeFvnhiI&feature=player_embedded#! I'm hoping what the video goes over is true, (very well argued, skip to around 18:00 for the best evidence) that Bioware haven't done one of the stupidest endings of all time, they've done one of the most nuanced, epic and well thought out endings ever. Whilst there's still hope, I hold out for this indoctrination theory and an extended gameplay section. I just don't want one of the best series with some of the best writing to end on such a weak note. One of my all time favourite gaming moments is from ME 1 where I pray that all these indoctrination points aren't just well thought out coincidences. Even better would be if Or maybe... I just don't want to accept the ending!

Valore · « **Reply #297 on:** March 22, 2012, 02:08:19 AM »

Already a drop to about $28 where I live at the local game store. Tempted to buy it but I think I'll leave it a little longer.

OsirisMVZ · « **Reply #298 on:** March 22, 2012, 08:27:44 AM »

Sorry Sangria but

PhilV · « **Reply #299 on:** March 22, 2012, 09:28:09 AM »

QUESTION: I just done the Rannoch missions... how close am I to the end?

Unfortunatly I deleted my ME2 save and I had saved everyone and had a relationship with Tali who I find a great character, so I started ME3 blank (gutted) after I finish it was gonna do ME2 again and then start ME3 from that position... just wondering how close I am to finishing my first ME3 playthrough...

On another note - most people have told me I won't want to go back after the ending :S

Drinks Sangria · « **Reply #300 on:** March 22, 2012, 10:11:28 AM »

Quote from: OsirisMVZ on March 22, 2012, 08:27:44 AM

Sorry Sangria but

Oh Shit. Looks like Bioware just dropped the ball. I'm in denial...

PhilV · « **Reply #301 on:** March 22, 2012, 10:13:29 AM »

Don't do this to me, ME is my favourite series, the story is so badass, I cannot accept this much time of my life is going into a pants ending!!

REVOLT!!

pepe_carra_stevie_nando · « **Reply #302 on:** March 22, 2012, 11:15:38 AM »

Quote from: PhilV on March 22, 2012, 09:28:09 AM

QUESTION: I just done the Rannoch missions... how close am I to the end?

Off the top of my head you have about another 4 or 5 priority missions to go.

stoa · « **Reply #303 on:** March 22, 2012, 02:57:10 PM »

Quote from: pepe_carra_stevie_nando on March 22, 2012, 11:15:38 AM

Off the top of my head you have about another 4 or 5 priority missions to go.

What's the deal with those? I have finished the game, but still have no clue how those missions work and what kind of missions there are. I know that Priority missions are those where the story progresses, but what about the others?

RivaGe · « **Reply #304 on:** March 22, 2012, 03:48:49 PM »

Quote from: stoa on March 22, 2012, 02:57:10 PM

What's the deal with those? I have finished the game, but still have no clue how those missions work and what kind of missions there are. I know that Priority missions are those where the story progresses, but what about the others?

There's like 4-5 secondary missions, mostly against Cerberus. And a dozen of shitty scanning missions.

Mr Kipling · « **Reply #305 on:** March 22, 2012, 03:53:03 PM »

Interesting theory: Spoiler alert

Drinks Sangria · « **Reply #306 on:** March 23, 2012, 12:32:50 PM »

Quote from: Mr Kipling on March 22, 2012, 03:53:03 PM

Interesting theory: Spoiler alert

Gone through this at length above lad. Would love for it to be true. You basically have a decision to make. Are Bioware (as perhaps the game's stories up until the ending suggest) masters of storytelling and nuanced deceptors, or are they giganto jerks who took a deep and messy shit all over the head, canon and sense of their own product? Time will tell.

PhilV · « **Reply #307 on:** March 23, 2012, 12:42:35 PM »

Please be the former, I am now fearing reaching the end (on Priority: Cerberus Base) because I read about the ending unintentionally and not sure I like it very much!!

My Paragon is maxed out though so I am sure I won't get the worst ending but yeah...

Also SPOILERS below as my spoiler tag doesn't seem to like to work:

The Mass Relays get destroyed in each ending right... which means the galaxy gets cut off from each other as FTL is too slow to travel between the far away systems... wtf!? That is rubbish!!!

Have a word Bioware! I better get a shitload of DLC for this game

Mello · « **Reply #308 on:** March 23, 2012, 04:06:09 PM »

Quote from: Mr Kipling on March 22, 2012, 03:53:03 PM

Interesting theory: Spoiler alert

Mr Kipling · « **Reply #309 on:** March 23, 2012, 04:55:06 PM »

Quote from: Drinks Sangria on March 23, 2012, 12:32:50 PM

Gone through this at length above lad. Would love for it to be true. You basically have a decision to make. Are Bioware (as perhaps the game's stories up until the ending suggest) masters of storytelling and nuanced deceptors, or are they giganto jerks who took a deep and messy shit all over the head, canon and sense of their own product? Time will tell.

I think that Bioware may have thought of the Indoctrination and wrote it into the game, (the youtube vid certainly supports it and i can't believe its an accident) which would of then of been expanded on in the DLC. But some people out there rumbled them and spoilt their party for a big twist ending.

The reason why they said that it isn't the intended ending Is because they have multiple DLC's lined up, in case somebody worked it out.

iSmiff · « **Reply #310 on:** March 23, 2012, 05:02:19 PM »

considering the day one Prothean DLC i'd expect nothing less from these whores than a real ending DLC

after they release about 5 other DLCs

the thing is, why would i give a fuck about other DLC packs when I've finished the trilogy

Upinsmoke · « **Reply #311 on:** March 23, 2012, 05:14:33 PM »

Quote from: iSmiff on March 23, 2012, 05:02:19 PM

considering the day one Prothean DLC i'd expect nothing less from these whores than a real ending DLC

after they release about 5 other DLCs

the thing is, why would i give a fuck about other DLC packs when I've finished the trilogy

Glad i didnt buy this, talk about shitting on your fanbase.

PhilV · « **Reply #312 on:** March 23, 2012, 07:55:01 PM »

Quote from: Mr Kipling on March 22, 2012, 03:53:03 PM

Interesting theory: Spoiler alert

Deffo believe that, the evidence is there anyway!! That would make BioWare ending kings instead of rushers!!

AHHH I FUCKING LOVE ME!! WHYYYY END!!

Drinks Sangria · « **Reply #313 on:** March 23, 2012, 07:59:32 PM »

Quote from: Mello on March 23, 2012, 04:06:09 PM

Think that the

stoa · « **Reply #314 on:** March 24, 2012, 02:49:23 PM »

So... I have altered my plan. Tried playing ME1, but it is just too awful gameplay-wise compared to ME2 and 3. So, I got all kinds of DLCs for ME2. Those that you get for free, the Shadowbroker-one, that thief-girl-one and Genesis. Made my decisions for game one and have started a new game with ME2. Have done a couple of things differently compared to the first time I played it and it is fun... I'm also going to take my time, because the last time, I rushed my ME3-playthrough a bit, because I wanted to see the end...

Trousers · « **Reply #315 on:** March 25, 2012, 05:49:43 PM »

Bioware QC on this game has been slipshod to say the least.
EA putting pressure on I think.

OsirisMVZ · « **Reply #316 on:** March 25, 2012, 05:56:33 PM »

They already had to delay it by a couple of months, it was originally supposed to come out October/Novmeber-ish for Christmas.

I understand what you mean though. If it was a novel or a screenplay for a film, they'd have been sent home and told to come back with a better finale and ending. BAH I can't take it anymore.

KopiteWD · « **Reply #317 on:** March 25, 2012, 08:48:43 PM »

Played this game with relative ease maybe died once or twice in the run up to the last mission, got on to the last mission and its practically fucking impossible for some reason every c*nt of a husk to brute seems to be attacking me from all sides.
Banshee's can fuck off especially.

voodoo ray · « **Reply #318 on:** March 25, 2012, 09:49:47 PM »

Quote from: KopiteWD on March 25, 2012, 08:48:43 PM

Played this game with relative ease maybe died once or twice in the run up to the last mission, got on to the last mission and its practically fucking impossible for some reason every c*nt of a husk to brute seems to be attacking me from all sides.
Banshee's can fuck off especially.

They're doing you a favour!

Redcap · « **Reply #319 on:** March 26, 2012, 08:51:34 AM »

Have not played this, but I don't think it's entirely surprising that Bioware is happy to fuck its fanbase and tell them they love it.

They made Dragon Age II, which was hugely unpopular with its fans, but acted as if they'd made the greatest RPG of all time.