Author Topic: Liverpool owners open talks with King Kenny re: full time contract (Rory Smith) (Read 59434 times)

barneystuta · « **Reply #400 on:** March 20, 2011, 06:57:25 PM »

Kenny gets 2 years, and go from there. As someone else stated, we don't have to worry about him being poached from another club. He is ours, for as long as we want him. 2 years will allow him to rebuild the team, and take from there.

I can't believe people are questioning his ability in Europe. Did you not see the players we had out of those games? Obviously, no Torres since he left. Both his replacements missed some games, Suarez all of them, and Carrol only made one start, his first one. Gerrard out injured too. His European Record (as a manager) isn't a great one, no, but he has limited experience due to the ban at the time in the 80's. He did take Blackburn into the CL, where they didn't fair too well, but it was all new to him. And lets not forget, Steve Clarke has worked with Jose in big CL games, and knows how to win them.

I reckon Kenny and Clarke both get 2 years. And, depending on the situation, I wouldn't be surprised if Steve Clarke was given it full time after. But that is a long way off, yet.

John C · « **Reply #401 on:** March 20, 2011, 07:04:55 PM »

In both his Sky & BBC interviews Kenny is basically saying the press are talking shite. His BBC interview is boss.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/9425608.stm

silver 5 star · « **Reply #402 on:** March 20, 2011, 07:19:21 PM »

Still think FSG are looking at alternatives. They know that although Dalglish wants the job he will also do what is best for the club.

If FSG convince Kenny a new name working with Commoli is the best way to go, Dalglish will step aside.

John C · « **Reply #403 on:** March 20, 2011, 07:27:05 PM »

Quote from: silver 5 star on March 20, 2011, 07:19:21 PM

If FSG convince Kenny a new name working with Commoli is the best way to go, Dalglish will step aside.

I met a still respected ex-LFC player recently and I said to him "Kenny or Mourhino?" He grimaced and said "Mourhino (if he'd come), he'd unite everyone but Kenny would have to be happy about it which he thinks he would".
I agreed about Mourhino being an excellent choice but suggested it would be very, very divisive amongst the fans.

We agreed that Kenny would have to publicly endorse any other choice or there would be chaos again.

All irrelevant really as I don't think the owners will look any further than Kenny. New players, new season, happy fucking days.

cyador · « **Reply #404 on:** March 20, 2011, 07:37:01 PM »

Mourinho would be a shit choice. God, the football his teams play is awful. Really bloody awful. Sure he wins, but he's like a winning version of hodgson.

You could forget about bringing our youngsters through, it would be older pros all the way, with plenty of hoofball to look forward to.

King kenny all the way for me.

Y2J · « **Reply #405 on:** March 20, 2011, 08:27:57 PM »

If anyone asked any United fan, "Fergie or Mourinho?" I'm sure the answer will be "Fergie". It is the same for us, Kenny is my choice for the manager's job, he knows the club inside out and understands us, the fans and the club better than anyone else. Kenny cares about the club and while I'm sure Mourinho would like us to win if he is to be our manager, he would look at any achievement with us as a chance to make his CV more impressive, Kenny would look at any tournament he wins with us as a chance to make us happier and a chance to make Liverpool more dominant name in Europe & England.

That's why I'd take Kenny every time ahead of Mourinho, hell, I won't even take Mourinho as Kenny's replacement two years from now if Kenny decides he doesn't want to continue, Rafa Benitez, Pep Segura or Steve Clarke should take the helm from Kenny after he departes.

Y2J · « **Reply #406 on:** March 20, 2011, 08:29:32 PM »

Quote from: John C on March 20, 2011, 07:04:55 PM

In both his Sky & BBC interviews Kenny is basically saying the press are talking shite. His BBC interview is boss.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/9425608.stm

John Henry said that he won't say if FSG are in contract talks with Kenny or not as that is an internal matter and that shouldn't be public. He said it is the Liverpool way. Basically, we'll know on the official site when Kenny's contract is signed & sealed.

Black Bull Nova · « **Reply #407 on:** March 20, 2011, 08:34:55 PM »

The plain fact is that if there was a table made up from the 6th of January to date we would be top (although Arsenal and Chelsea would have games in hand). I think that is testament enough given, if you are to take the words of the former manager, our squad is not good enough. All this talk of modern tactics bugs me a bit as the only managers who avoid this sort of stuff are Ferguson, Redknapp and Holloway who seem to thrive on it. I had enough tactics talk with the last one, I'll take passion and nous for now and buy in the tactics with people like Clarke.

Excellent.

its cold in the stands · « **Reply #408 on:** March 20, 2011, 10:01:02 PM »

Quote from: Black Bull Nova on March 20, 2011, 08:34:55 PM

The plain fact is that if there was a table made up from the 6th of January to date we would be top (although Arsenal and Chelsea would have games in hand). I think that is testament enough given, if you are to take the words of the former manager, our squad is not good enough. All this talk of modern tactics bugs me a bit as the only managers who avoid this sort of stuff are Ferguson, Redknapp and Holloway who seem to thrive on it. I had enough tactics talk with the last one, I'll take passion and nous for now and buy in the tactics with people like Clarke.

Excellent.

yeah, i agree.
dalglish has done a tremendous job since he took over, that form table has been over about 10 games as well which equates to over a quarter of the season, considering how low confidence was earlier on this season and how erratic this squad has performed over the past 2 years he has done more than a good job.

Roslagen · « **Reply #409 on:** March 20, 2011, 10:08:38 PM »

Hope for Steve Clarke to stay on as well. Please stay Steve!!

1021 · « **Reply #410 on:** March 20, 2011, 10:57:45 PM »

Can we not even speculate about the prospect of Mourinho ever, ever being linked with Liverpool especially with Kenny around.
Disgusting idea. Upsetting idea. Terrible, terrible, idea.

Think it'll all be sorted out in the summer, hope it will be anyway.
Even if every top manager in the world (aside from our one) became available and threw their hat in the ring, the only response would be thanks Mr. Guardiola, Ancelloti, Hiddink, etc. but no thanks.

If ever there was a right man for a job, it is Kenny for the one he currently occupies.

Stussy · « **Reply #411 on:** March 20, 2011, 11:05:42 PM »

Quote from: 1021 on March 20, 2011, 10:57:45 PM

Disgusting idea.

This ^^^

Its utterly bizarre to me that this is being mentioned at all by any Red to be honest. In real life, I don't know a single person who would want anything other than what we have at the moment, and going on into the next few seasons at least.

Kenny is what this club needs now, at this moment in our history, a moment of transition and a moment when we need healing and bringing together, the support and the players. The last 3 years and in particular the last season and a half, intensified under Hodgson to a million degrees, have been the most wretched, horrible, divisive sickness of our lifetimes. Kenny takes us beyond that like nobody else can, and he is getting the results too in a manner in keeping with our aspirations.

No666 · « **Reply #412 on:** March 20, 2011, 11:10:28 PM »

Telegraph with some quotes from John Henry they're interpreting positively. Like the swipe at Hodgson after his sour comments about us today.

“What is going on in that regard is private,” Henry said. “It is something called the Liverpool Way and you do these things behind closed doors. I am not going to talk about these things. He has done very well.” Henry had a veiled dig at Dalglish’s predecessor, Roy Hodgson, when asked if there had been a change in mood since his takeover. “Absolutely, it’s all very positive,” he added. “Someone was saying that people weren’t happy here. But I think since that person left, people are happier.”

Carlito Roberto · « **Reply #413 on:** March 20, 2011, 11:14:41 PM »

Quote from: No666 on March 20, 2011, 11:10:28 PM

Telegraph with some quotes from John Henry they're interpreting positively. Like the dig.

“What is going on in that regard is private,” Henry said. “It is something called the Liverpool Way and you do these things behind closed doors. I am not going to talk about these things. He has done very well.” Henry had a veiled dig at Dalglish’s predecessor, Roy Hodgson, when asked if there had been a change in mood since his takeover. “Absolutely, it’s all very positive,” he added. “Someone was saying that people weren’t happy here. But I think since that person left, people are happier.”

Talking about Torres no?

macca888 · « **Reply #414 on:** March 21, 2011, 12:52:33 AM »

http://www.skysports.com/video/inline/0,26691,12606_6825029,00.html

My stomach just turned a little when The King said in this interview "Fantastic owners, really supportive in the January transfer window, I'm sure they will be again in the summer, and whoever that's for are going to be very fortunate to be working with some very good owners."

Can't even think about him leaving, so my fingers and everything else are crossed that the very fortunate person Kenny is referring to is himself!

red tower · « **Reply #415 on:** March 21, 2011, 01:55:34 AM »

Quote from: Stussy on March 20, 2011, 11:05:42 PM

This ^^^

Its utterly bizarre to me that this is being mentioned at all by any Red to be honest. In real life, I don't know a single person who would want anything other than what we have at the moment, and going on into the next few seasons at least.

Kenny is what this club needs now, at this moment in our history, a moment of transition and a moment when we need healing and bringing together, the support and the players. The last 3 years and in particular the last season and a half, intensified under Hodgson to a million degrees, have been the most wretched, horrible, divisive sickness of our lifetimes. Kenny takes us beyond that like nobody else can, and he is getting the results too in a manner in keeping with our aspirations.

cracking post mate

flashman · « **Reply #416 on:** March 21, 2011, 02:24:50 AM »

Quote from: macca888 on March 21, 2011, 12:52:33 AM

http://www.skysports.com/video/inline/0,26691,12606_6825029,00.html

My stomach just turned a little when The King said in this interview "Fantastic owners, really supportive in the January transfer window, I'm sure they will be again in the summer, and whoever that's for are going to be very fortunate to be working with some very good owners."

Can't even think about him leaving, so my fingers and everything else are crossed that the very fortunate person Kenny is referring to is himself!

Bit worried as well listening to the BBC interview, hopefully thats just Kenny toying with the interviewer

Armand9 · « **Reply #417 on:** March 21, 2011, 02:43:35 AM »

Quote from: cyador on March 20, 2011, 07:37:01 PM

Mourinho would be a shit choice.

Not gonna happen anyway, if he left RM Man City would snap him up immediately and they got what he wants, bottomless pockets to spend on players, that's his way

mick_travis · « **Reply #418 on:** March 21, 2011, 03:03:00 AM »

Quote from: Stussy on March 20, 2011, 11:05:42 PM

This ^^^

Its utterly bizarre to me that this is being mentioned at all by any Red to be honest. In real life, I don't know a single person who would want anything other than what we have at the moment, and going on into the next few seasons at least.

Kenny is what this club needs now, at this moment in our history, a moment of transition and a moment when we need healing and bringing together, the support and the players. The last 3 years and in particular the last season and a half, intensified under Hodgson to a million degrees, have been the most wretched, horrible, divisive sickness of our lifetimes. Kenny takes us beyond that like nobody else can, and he is getting the results too in a manner in keeping with our aspirations.

Great post,the memories of Hodson make me sick and thought of Mourinho disgust me,Let it be.

RedRush · « **Reply #419 on:** March 21, 2011, 04:01:52 AM »

Quote from: 1021 on March 20, 2011, 10:57:45 PM

Can we not even speculate about the prospect of Mourinho ever, ever being linked with Liverpool especially with Kenny around.
Disgusting idea. Upsetting idea. Terrible, terrible, idea.

Think it'll all be sorted out in the summer, hope it will be anyway.
Even if every top manager in the world (aside from our one) became available and threw their hat in the ring, the only response would be thanks Mr. Guardiola, Ancelloti, Hiddink, etc. but no thanks.

If ever there was a right man for a job, it is Kenny for the one he currently occupies.

Finn Solomon · « **Reply #420 on:** March 21, 2011, 04:19:18 AM »

Give him the job and let the man win the league.

Vote Quimby · « **Reply #421 on:** March 21, 2011, 06:30:57 AM »

Points from first ten games: 12
Points from next ten: 13

Points from next 10 games under Dalglish: 20

Ergo, if Kenny were the manager from the start of the season Liverpool would have 60 points and up to their necks in the title race:

The performances under Dalglish in Europe have been dreadful.

In the league he's delivered improvement.

Should he get the job? He's certainly the best candidate I can think of who would realistically come to the club. The only manager who is better credentialled and would take the job if offered is Rafa....

ziggyy · « **Reply #422 on:** March 21, 2011, 07:15:56 AM »

Quote from: Finn Solomon on March 21, 2011, 04:19:18 AM

Give him the job and let the man win the league.

I'll add Give him the money too:)

^^Snoop^^ · « **Reply #423 on:** March 21, 2011, 07:25:54 AM »

Quote from: Carlito Roberto on March 20, 2011, 11:14:41 PM

Talking about Torres no?

Sounds like Torres to me too.

hugoboss · « **Reply #424 on:** March 21, 2011, 07:39:46 AM »

Quote from: No666 on March 20, 2011, 11:10:28 PM

Telegraph with some quotes from John Henry they're interpreting positively. Like the swipe at Hodgson after his sour comments about us today.

“What is going on in that regard is private,” Henry said. “It is something called the Liverpool Way and you do these things behind closed doors. I am not going to talk about these things. He has done very well.” Henry had a veiled dig at Dalglish’s predecessor, Roy Hodgson, when asked if there had been a change in mood since his takeover. “Absolutely, it’s all very positive,” he added. “Someone was saying that people weren’t happy here. But I think since that person left, people are happier.”

He's talking about Torres, sweet, JWH is so cool!

Didi_ram · « **Reply #425 on:** March 21, 2011, 07:45:19 AM »

Quote from: No666 on March 20, 2011, 11:10:28 PM

Telegraph with some quotes from John Henry they're interpreting positively. Like the swipe at Hodgson after his sour comments about us today.

“What is going on in that regard is private,” Henry said. “It is something called the Liverpool Way and you do these things behind closed doors. I am not going to talk about these things. He has done very well.” Henry had a veiled dig at Dalglish’s predecessor, Roy Hodgson, when asked if there had been a change in mood since his takeover. “Absolutely, it’s all very positive,” he added. “Someone was saying that people weren’t happy here. But I think since that person left, people are happier.”

Absolutely fantastic John.
You are part of the Liverpool way.

Malaysian Kopite · « **Reply #426 on:** March 21, 2011, 09:59:19 AM »

Quote from: hugoboss on March 21, 2011, 07:39:46 AM

He's talking about Torres, sweet, JWH is so cool!

Yup, definitely Torres. He's too professional to have a go at Hodgson.

Malaysian Kopite · « **Reply #427 on:** March 21, 2011, 10:01:19 AM »

Looking at the above article on the teamtalk page, I found it funny that almost 90% of the comments( including those by rival fans) were about Linda rather than Kenny, Henry, Roy or Ninny.

xerxes1 · « **Reply #428 on:** March 21, 2011, 10:11:44 AM »

Quote from: Finn Solomon on March 21, 2011, 04:19:18 AM

Give him the job and let the man win the league.

Funnily for me that isnt what it is about with Kenny. There is still a lot of healing to do and he is the man for the job.There are two potential storms ahead, Reina in the summer and the new stadium. Kenny is better placed to manage those situations than anyone.

Raoul Duke · « **Reply #429 on:** March 21, 2011, 10:20:13 AM »

I'm not worried about when Kenny is given a long-term contract. He knows the fans and the club inside out and would never go elsewhere when the job is open to him, and, after a number of years, he would know when the time was right to step down and hand the baton on. His relationship with the owners will mean that everybody is on the same page. The way he's united the club and got the team playing largely excellent, committed football, including taking Manchester United to pieces, as well as putting together a defensive masterplan away at Chelsea, is nothing short of exceptional after the horrorshow that was the Hodgson era. He'll get the job, no doubt: I have no concerns about the direction we are heading in.

Finn Solomon · « **Reply #430 on:** March 21, 2011, 12:55:16 PM »

Quote from: xerxes1 on March 21, 2011, 10:11:44 AM

Funnily for me that isnt what it is about with Kenny. There is still a lot of healing to do and he is the man for the job.There are two potential storms ahead, Reina in the summer and the new stadium. Kenny is better placed to manage those situations than anyone.

I suppose so.

Jellies · « **Reply #431 on:** March 21, 2011, 12:57:02 PM »

Can't remember Hodgson ever said that people weren't happy in the club, so it's definitely about el Sulky.

Heighwayondawing · « **Reply #432 on:** March 21, 2011, 03:12:48 PM »

Quote from: Jellies on March 21, 2011, 12:57:02 PM

Can't remember Hodgson ever said that people weren't happy in the club, so it's definitely about el Sulky.

I think so too. Roy spent all his time talking about how the supporters weren't being fair with him.

exiledintheusa · « **Reply #433 on:** March 21, 2011, 03:18:40 PM »

'That person' looked really happy again yesterday as he got the hook.

xosder · « **Reply #434 on:** March 21, 2011, 04:22:01 PM »

Quote from: 1021 on March 20, 2011, 10:57:45 PM

If ever there was a right man for a job, it is Kenny for the one he currently occupies.

^This, one thousand times this.

Fat Scouser · « **Reply #435 on:** March 21, 2011, 04:31:07 PM »

What's that kunt Hodge Podge been saying?

How much did he get out of us?

The cheeky bastard should be dancing... 35 year career? Jammy bastard. If he'd have been a bin man and kept dropping that sort of shite all over the gaff he wouldn't have lasted ten fucking minutes. The deluded horrible, blue rinsed, shitehawk of a fella.

Agger · « **Reply #436 on:** March 21, 2011, 04:58:52 PM »

Quote from: No666 on March 20, 2011, 11:10:28 PM

Telegraph with some quotes from John Henry they're interpreting positively. Like the swipe at Hodgson after his sour comments about us today.

“What is going on in that regard is private,” Henry said. “It is something called the Liverpool Way and you do these things behind closed doors. I am not going to talk about these things. He has done very well.” Henry had a veiled dig at Dalglish’s predecessor, Roy Hodgson, when asked if there had been a change in mood since his takeover. “Absolutely, it’s all very positive,” he added. “Someone was saying that people weren’t happy here. But I think since that person left, people are happier.”

Brilliant. Torres - face.

No666 · « **Reply #437 on:** March 21, 2011, 06:09:08 PM »

There you go Leo - a reminder of all those scintillating press conferences - he always knew we'd finish in the top...er... Enjoy!

Hodgson reflected: “The truthful answer is I am enjoying it [being at WBA than at Anfield] more because no-one likes to be in a situation where the work you are doing is not appreciated.

“I am in a situation here where it is appreciated though.

“This is very much a honey-moon period in the sense we also haven’t had many games.

“As a result when you have not had many games people do tend to be happier bunnies.

“If we get a result against Arsenal, March will have been a very good month.”

Hodgson was booted out of Liverpool after Premier League defeats to Wolves and Blackburn saw the club slide down the table.

He added: “We lost two games at Liverpool when we were seventh or eighth in the league which put us down to 12th.

“If you get pilloried for losing two games I suppose I was pilloried.

“I always knew at Liverpool we would finish in the top six, seven or eight once we got our players back.

“My misfortune was we also lost two games at the wrong time.

“And my misfortune was to be at a club where the fans made it pretty clear early on they really wanted the manager they have got now.

“But that side of it I think I accepted pretty gracefully.”

Chakan · « **Reply #438 on:** March 21, 2011, 06:11:30 PM »

Yeah Roy is was only 2 games that got you sacked, you speckled faced c*nt bag

andyclfc1 · « **Reply #439 on:** March 21, 2011, 06:18:52 PM »

Quote from: Carlito Roberto on March 20, 2011, 11:14:41 PM

Talking about Torres no?

Yes that's what i thought, rather than Hodgson...