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Re: Season Ticket Waiting List
« Reply #1000 on: July 3, 2011, 03:34:05 PM »
I never bothered going on the list but if i ever got a chance of getting one in my own name, I would take it and I know the one I use would be given up as the lad has not been to a game for years. Talking to people there are loads like this

I put my name down in 1997 and borrowed one off a guy from 1999 - 2003 he actually said I could change it over to my name, but then later said he wanted it for himself. The seat was just behind 2 guys I work with, they since told me he sat there for one season then from about 2005 they never saw him. Was someone different every game, so it either went back to the club and used for a supporters club or that seat used for general sales.

He would probably be like one of the 10 or so that only became available each season for new ST holders.
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Re: Season Ticket Waiting List
« Reply #1001 on: July 3, 2011, 03:43:35 PM »
I went on the list in 98/99 or 2001. 


Since 2000 I've had the seasie of three different people, and currently have my best mate's since 2004.   He got out of the habbit,and does't go now.
 It's basically mine now, just not in my name.


If I had of been lucky in the draw, then I would judt pass his off to another mate, who's lower down the list than me.



The two my sister has just got in the draw, will be getting used by my sister, and my other sister and brother in law, who are all regular match goers anyway.

So by giving them a seasie, there's two/three people who are going to free up daily match going tickets, back into the pot.





Before the big decision to either redevelop Anfield, or build a new one, at some point surely the club has to have a season ticket amnesty.

Surely they must realise that anywhere from 10% - 30% of current season tickets are not being used by the named persons. But are just passed off to family, mates, or in extreme circumstances hired out at a profit.

Under the current regulations, As far as I am aware, you can only change a season ticket name, or pass it on to someone in your family.
 
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Re: Season Ticket Waiting List
« Reply #1002 on: July 3, 2011, 04:00:43 PM »
I went on the list in 98/99 or 2001.

Before the big decision to either redevelop Anfield, or build a new one, at some point surely the club has to have a season ticket amnesty.

Surely they must realise that anywhere from 10% - 30% of current season tickets are not being used by the named persons. But are just passed off to family, mates, or in extreme circumstances hired out at a profit.

Under the current regulations, As far as I am aware, you can only change a season ticket name, or pass it on to someone in your family.
 


This is exactly what I've been thinking

I think the poor attendance against Bolton last year was because season ticket holders could not find buyers for that game. a lad who sits next to us has a spare ST and last year at times he could not give a game away and he is from Liverpool.

I think the club will want at least 30 to 35000 season ticket holders in a redeveloped Anfield/New stadium. So I think they will release more Tickets next year. It makes sense to me to have at least two thirds of the stadium sold out before building it
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Re: Season Ticket Waiting List
« Reply #1003 on: July 3, 2011, 04:51:00 PM »
So I'm 5,238 on the list and I think I applied in November 2004, thought I would have been around the 7,000 mark.

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Re: Season Ticket Waiting List
« Reply #1004 on: July 3, 2011, 05:55:51 PM »

This is exactly what I've been thinking

I think the poor attendance against Bolton last year was because season ticket holders could not find buyers for that game. a lad who sits next to us has a spare ST and last year at times he could not give a game away and he is from Liverpool.

I think the club will want at least 30 to 35000 season ticket holders in a redeveloped Anfield/New stadium. So I think they will release more Tickets next year. It makes sense to me to have at least two thirds of the stadium sold out before building it
Except that while you are building it you are comitted to only having season ticket holders in the ground.

Think about if, for example, they knocked teh main stand down to rebuild, capacity would be down to 32K, even if they did the Anny first 37K.
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Re: Season Ticket Waiting List
« Reply #1005 on: July 3, 2011, 06:27:36 PM »
I'm 6648 on the list and applied in approx 98-99.

thought id be higher up than that but there you go.

would imagine a few in the top 2000 will turn the chance down. Its very easy to pay a £5 to be on the list but now some will struggle with the £700.

on the positive side there will be less than 5000 ahead of me soon so a bigger ground will almost guarnatee me a ST, hopefull when the time comes i'll be able to afford it!

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Re: Season Ticket Waiting List
« Reply #1006 on: July 3, 2011, 07:19:18 PM »
So I'm 5,238 on the list and I think I applied in November 2004, thought I would have been around the 7,000 mark.

Anyone who applied after April 2004 hasn't been contacted yet apparently, so not sure how you can have a position on the new waiting list?
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Re: Season Ticket Waiting List
« Reply #1007 on: July 3, 2011, 07:53:15 PM »
from what i see there are 10,000 remaining now from the first 25,000 not seen any higher than 10,100 so if 2000 are going out it leaves 8,000 + the other 50,000 leaves 58,000 from 75,000 and more could go in the remaining 50,000. working it out if 15,000 have gone off a 25,000 waiting list, if this is roughly the same for the remaining 50,000. 20,000 should remain from this including the 8,000 from 25,000. leaves 28,000 from 75,000. depends how many returns they get on how long the waiting list is for around 30,000 fans. if they only offered 1,000 new tickets every season could be a 30 year wait  :o.

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Re: Season Ticket Waiting List
« Reply #1008 on: July 3, 2011, 08:28:02 PM »
from what i see there are 10,000 remaining now from the first 25,000 not seen any higher than 10,100 so if 2000 are going out it leaves 8,000 + the other 50,000 leaves 58,000 from 75,000 and more could go in the remaining 50,000. working it out if 15,000 have gone off a 25,000 waiting list, if this is roughly the same for the remaining 50,000. 20,000 should remain from this including the 8,000 from 25,000. leaves 28,000 from 75,000. depends how many returns they get on how long the waiting list is for around 30,000 fans. if they only offered 1,000 new tickets every season could be a 30 year wait  :o.
The list prior to 2004.

With the waiting  around for 6-15 years, many poeple who were originaly on the waiting list form the 1990s, would of either moved on with life, moved away, got out of the match going habit, or even died.  So I'm not at all surprised that from the original 25,000 there was only an uptake of about 50% or just under.
Over time, people's priority changes. Many would of got married, had kids, and in generaly over time had less money, and higher financial priorities, other than getting a season ticket.
Simpley, people get sick of waiting for a undetermined date in the distant future, and move on.


The list post 2004.

This part of the list, being a lot more recent, will probably have a lot higher uptake than 50%, for the simple reason that most of the people who put their names down will still be around, and still be regular match-going fans*
Certainly, those who've only been on the list a couple of years, will definately take up the option.


* The anomaly in that is the old price tag, tick box.

 From approximately 2000 to about 2006ish, all of the price/label tags on the Reebok replica shirts etc from the club stores had a half a dozen tick boxes about the club keeping you informed of other offers etc. etc.

One of these tick boxes was   -  'Do you want to go on the season ticket waiting list'.
 
So every Tom, Dick and Harry from Anfield to Azerbijan, Sefton Park to Singapore, could return that label/price tag and have their detail recorded.

The big question there is, if Someone from the North West was offered a season ticket, what are the % of people who pould say yes, as apposed to the % of  someone from say Hong Kong, Malasia, or even Spain or Germany, actually take up the offer and except a season ticket.

It's all well and good putting a tick in a tick box on what is basically a throw away piece of paper, that deosn't cost you a penny or change anything, as to actually stumping up cold hard cash, in the region of £700 - £800.  Not even allowing for flights from some far flung corner of the world.

So I think that will allow for a fair bit of deadwood, on the list.  Certainly from people who harmlessly ticked a box, without ever seriously having the intention of actually wanting a ticket in the first place.

It probably also allows for a proportion of the 12,500 that didn't take the up-take of this recent 25000 list.

One point being though. The tick boxes went from about 2000 to about 2006, so I would think that will allow for a fair bit of wastage of the nubers on both the pre-2004 and post-2004 at an almost equalish measure.




Saying all of this though, is pretty imaterial, until we (the club), decide what they are going regarding redevelopment or a re-build.   

For some, it could be a two year wait, it could be a twenty-two year wait. Who knows.

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Re: Season Ticket Waiting List
« Reply #1009 on: July 3, 2011, 09:02:00 PM »
i remember the 'tick box' on the tag now, ive a feeling i sent it off ticked as well, im in the 2,000 so unless they checked i might have been put on it again! that would be mad, hang around for 15 years and you end up with 2 season tickets in the space of a few years!!!

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Re: Season Ticket Waiting List
« Reply #1010 on: July 3, 2011, 09:08:41 PM »
from what i see there are 10,000 remaining now from the first 25,000 not seen any higher than 10,100 so if 2000 are going out it leaves 8,000 + the other 50,000 leaves 58,000 from 75,000 and more could go in the remaining 50,000. working it out if 15,000 have gone off a 25,000 waiting list, if this is roughly the same for the remaining 50,000. 20,000 should remain from this including the 8,000 from 25,000. leaves 28,000 from 75,000. depends how many returns they get on how long the waiting list is for around 30,000 fans. if they only offered 1,000 new tickets every season could be a 30 year wait  :o.

I would say it's a lot less than 20,000 from 50,000.  It was a tick a box senario after 2004 i think, so anyone getting a fancard or membership automatically put themselves on the list regardless i'd say.  Whereas pre 2004 people had to go to the hassle of writing a letter to the club.

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Re: Season Ticket Waiting List
« Reply #1011 on: July 3, 2011, 09:51:38 PM »
Me and my brother have both used someone else's for years.  I paid for them this year, on the proviso if we got our own he would buy them back.  He said he's going to go this season but I wouldn't be surprised if he returned them next season.

Im not disrespectig you here but therein lies one of the main problems. I suppose I'd do the same if I had the chance however this revolving door flog it on to someone else, skews the system and only allows those networked to access tickets.

Anf you wonder why folks get pissed off?

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Re: Season Ticket Waiting List
« Reply #1012 on: July 3, 2011, 09:59:51 PM »
I've been on the list since 1997-1998 and I'm 1,729th on the list.  ;D

Just waiting for the email, reckon it's going to be like this

Mon 1-400
Tue 401-800
Wed 801-1200
Thu 1201-1600
Fri 1600-2000

To give the ones who've waited the longest the first dips on seats, can't imagine everyone having 7-8 ton to splash in the space of 6 weeks, as they're not giving the finance option til next season. I'll be waiting for me email tho!

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Re: Season Ticket Waiting List
« Reply #1013 on: July 3, 2011, 10:06:26 PM »
Im not disrespectig you here but therein lies one of the main problems. I suppose I'd do the same if I had the chance however this revolving door flog it on to someone else, skews the system and only allows those networked to access tickets.

Anf you wonder why folks get pissed off?
Yeah, but thats just because of the market conditions.

In the las 15 years, it's almost been a closed shop when it comes to season tickets.

I would be surprised if the amount of tickets returned to the club in that time even gets close to a three figure sum.


Many, many people are in the same boat, either borrowing a season ticket off someone for years on end, or the other side of the coin being if you have a spare one, lending it out or selling year on year.

It's only the fact that the market conditions and lack of season ticket opportunity, thats  causing people to react in that way, as very very few people give them up, and if you're in a position as to not see a season ticket of your own for many years, there is no other way to get regular match tickets without sweating on them week on week and spending an eternity on the phones or internet trying to source your tickets.

It's the system thats causing the problem, not the people playing that system.


If we had an unlimited seated stadium, then the season ticket black market goes away instantly.    Which is why I think they should, at some point, have a season ticket amnesty.
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Re: Season Ticket Waiting List
« Reply #1014 on: July 3, 2011, 10:20:21 PM »
Yeah, but thats just because of the market conditions.

In the las 15 years, it's almost been a closed shop when it comes to season tickets.

I would be surprised if the amount of tickets returned to the club in that time even gets close to a three figure sum.


Many, many people are in the same boat, either borrowing a season ticket off someone for years on end, or the other side of the coin being if you have a spare one, lending it out or selling year on year.

It's only the fact that the market conditions and lack of season ticket opportunity, thats  causing people to react in that way, as very very few people give them up, and if you're in a position as to not see a season ticket of your own for many years, there is no other way to get regular match tickets without sweating on them week on week and spending an eternity on the phones or internet trying to source your tickets.

It's the system thats causing the problem, not the people playing that system.


If we had an unlimited seated stadium, then the season ticket black market goes away instantly.    Which is why I think they should, at some point, have a season ticket amnesty.

Ive always siad every process is perfectly designed to achieve the result it delivers.

I wasny having a go at anyone, as Im sure I'd do the same. But I am sure those with an insight can understand the frustration?

Anyhow Im really chuffed for thos who will be getting them soon and hope that the new influx of real fans will get stadium rockin' again as last time I went it was just a tad like Highbury Library.

Heres hoping the good commercial decisions continue and that and amensty / future proofing system are in plalce before long which will give us a good idea as to the cpapctiy requirements of the new stadia designs, and hopefully everyone who wants one a chance at a seat.

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Re: Season Ticket Waiting List
« Reply #1015 on: July 3, 2011, 10:22:39 PM »
Im not disrespectig you here but therein lies one of the main problems. I suppose I'd do the same if I had the chance however this revolving door flog it on to someone else, skews the system and only allows those networked to access tickets.

Anf you wonder why folks get pissed off?

I don't wonder at all.  It is one of the main problems.  A lot, like me and my brother, started to use this fella's as his circumstances changed and he was understandibly loathed to hand his season ticket in as the chances of him getting one again were slim at best - he has had it for decades.  He is now in a position to go again, but out of a sense of loyalty and thanks he still offered them to me this season but now we will be getting our own he will start to go again.

It's crazy that people have had season tickets for years and years, not used them and there's been no way of checking.  I would imagine if the club have anything about them the coming years will see a big change in the whole season ticket situation, for example cards with photos on would stop a lot of the misuse, particularly for touts.

Edit:  and I didn't think you were having a go;  it's a valid point. 

I really do understand the frustration.  I have just been surprised at the reactions of some who only joined the list relatively recently and, despite the numbers provided by the club, expected to be much higher up the list.
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Re: Season Ticket Waiting List
« Reply #1016 on: July 3, 2011, 10:27:36 PM »
I would imagine that the TO will want to know by a week today at latest which seats to put into the members sale. Also they won't want members buying a load of tickets then finding they have to refund them as they get offered a season ticket.

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Re: Season Ticket Waiting List
« Reply #1017 on: July 3, 2011, 10:51:51 PM »
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I wasn't having a pop mate, sorry if it came across like that. I was just trying to make the point that you can't blame people for using the system in their favour, when it's the only system we all have to play with.


ClaireW.

They can never have a photo ID based seson ticket system. It just wouldn't work.

As far as I know, the current rules governing our season tickets let you give/lend a season ticket to someone who is 'known' to you.

That means that if you cannot make the game one week for one reason or another, you are entitled to give it to a family member, mate, etc.
Therefore a season ticket with a photo on just wouldn't work.

As it is, it takes a fair amount of time to get evreyone into the stadium. Could you imagine the delays if they had to match a photo to an individual?
And I'm not even talking about checking them all. Even if they just chose a handful at random, it would still create delays at the turnstyles.

Shit. There would be uproar, if that happened, as so many people would be turned away it would be unreal.


As an example. The season ticket I have is in the Upper Centenary, and I know the lads around me, as they are also mates of mates etc.

Yet my mates seasies are in the Kop.

Any given game, we sometimes swap tickets and sit in each others seats,  if someone else we know has a ticket for a particular match in a particular stand.


If I swapped with my mate, legitimately, and he or I was asked to match a photo to the season ticket with a photo on, we'd be turfed out instantly, although we've swapped legitimately just for one game.

It just wouldn't work, as the club would be getting hundreds of complaints per game.

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Re: Season Ticket Waiting List
« Reply #1018 on: July 3, 2011, 11:05:57 PM »
They can never have a photo ID based seson ticket system. It just wouldn't work.

As far as I know, the current rules governing our season tickets let you give/lend a season ticket to someone who is 'known' to you.



I know it happens, I just wasn't aware that you were 'allowed' to give your ticket to someone else known to you.  So in that case, you are right :)




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Re: Season Ticket Waiting List
« Reply #1019 on: July 3, 2011, 11:27:38 PM »
No Claire, I'm not entirely right.  I'll stand corrected.


Here's the current season ticket regulations 2011/2012

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/tickets/season-ticket-terms-and-conditions


The wording has changed somewhat to when I last read them, a few years ago now.


The two bits I will pull out are these.



3. Use of Season Ticket.

3.2 You may only sell or transfer the Season Ticket to a Guest with the express written consent of the Club given at the Club's absolute discretion. No such sale or transfer will be permitted except where the same takes place in respect of an individual match and in consideration of no payment or benefit in excess of the face value of a ticket to that Match and such transfer does not take place during the course of any business or for the purpose of facilitating any third party's business. Such resale or transfer to any Guest is hereby provided be subject to the Terms and Conditions of Entry which will (save for any rights to transfer under this clause) apply to that Guest as if he/she was the original purchaser of the Season Ticket (and you must inform the Guest of this).


13. Definitions.

"Guest" means a relative, friend, colleague and/or companion to the disabled who would be entitled to purchase a Season Ticket under the Terms & Conditions of Entry.
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Re: Season Ticket Waiting List
« Reply #1020 on: July 4, 2011, 08:42:02 AM »
Can people in the top 2000 let us know ehen the club contact them? Thanks
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Re: Season Ticket Waiting List
« Reply #1021 on: July 4, 2011, 08:52:43 AM »
Seems like a fair chunk of the 2000 have season tickets in somebody else's name. Swings & roundabouts an all that. Time for the TO to do an amnesty.

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« Reply #1022 on: July 4, 2011, 12:21:11 PM »
I ended up being somewhere in the region of 4600, after joining the list in August of 2000.  Fair enough really, but after handing back the ST I've been borrowing to it's original owner, I was hoping to be a bit lower if I'm being honest.

However, hats off to the new owners for instigating this excercise. 2000 people will benefit from having a new ST whilst the rest of us now have a bit of clarity knowing where we are on the list.  In our present circumstance, I don't think we could ask for much more than that.  You never know, the club may to decide to release more in upcoming seasons.

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Re: Season Ticket Waiting List
« Reply #1023 on: July 4, 2011, 12:44:16 PM »
Seems like a fair chunk of the 2000 have season tickets in somebody else's name. Swings & roundabouts an all that. Time for the TO to do an amnesty.

My guess would be once they have the whole list sorted they will do this to some extent to weed out the last of the deadwood from the list.
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Re: Season Ticket Waiting List
« Reply #1024 on: July 4, 2011, 12:50:21 PM »
online now, i think.
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Re: Season Ticket Waiting List
« Reply #1025 on: July 4, 2011, 01:15:55 PM »
Went on list in 1997, me being an organised sod, still have original confirmation letter, yet I'm 6,894 on the list. Thought I'd be higher?!

Has anyone attempted to contact the ticket office on similar grounds and got a sensible response?

Being cynical. I've attended every home game for the last 6 years and have the feeling that if they've looked at purchase history of some people. They know will do the same this year via membership and probably get to all games they've moved them further down, as they know they get their money, and we won't complain especially now we haven't got to sit online 19 times a season.

Offering a ST to someone who used to go say 5 a season might be the incentive to shell out the £800 and not always go. Then the scheme allows them to sell the seat and make a percentage off the ST holder? But, me being cynical probably!
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Re: Season Ticket Waiting List
« Reply #1026 on: July 4, 2011, 01:21:04 PM »
online now, i think.

"Your current position on the Season Ticket Waiting List is displayed below.  When someone above you becomes a Season Ticket Holder your position will automatically update."

Nothing has changed as yet, would have thought a few may have by now.
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Re: Season Ticket Waiting List
« Reply #1027 on: July 4, 2011, 01:21:23 PM »
online now, i think.

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Re: Season Ticket Waiting List
« Reply #1028 on: July 4, 2011, 01:43:20 PM »
I'm another one that is confused by my position in the list, applied in the late 90's but I'm at 5800. 

Could it be that when I wrote to change address in 2001 or 2 they deleted the old record (was a book and page reference) and added me again at the bottom of the list? 

I suppose 5800 is a lot better than 13400 when I checked a couple of years ago.
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Re: Season Ticket Waiting List
« Reply #1029 on: July 4, 2011, 01:50:12 PM »
Looks like there is some decent blocks available when you click the ST link on the online sales page. Unless they have not taken away what isn't available as of yet?

Shame I'm not legible to buy one this week...... yet.

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« Reply #1030 on: July 4, 2011, 02:03:50 PM »
Looks like there is some decent blocks available when you click the ST link on the online sales page. Unless they have not taken away what isn't available as of yet?

Shame I'm not legible to buy one this week...... yet.

You got a link mate I can't find that

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« Reply #1031 on: July 4, 2011, 02:15:16 PM »
Anyone managed to buy a season ticket yet? It says 'Smart Card problem' when I try to checkout, but a lad on another forum says he has bought one.
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« Reply #1032 on: July 4, 2011, 02:17:27 PM »
Anyone managed to buy a season ticket yet? It says 'Smart Card problem' when I try to checkout, but a lad on another forum says he has bought one.

Where exactly? Assuming you have had an email from the club stating where to go and how to do it picking your seat.
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« Reply #1033 on: July 4, 2011, 02:20:25 PM »
Anyone managed to buy a season ticket yet? It says 'Smart Card problem' when I try to checkout, but a lad on another forum says he has bought one.

I got the same problem, think you need a email first?
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« Reply #1034 on: July 4, 2011, 02:22:30 PM »
Where exactly? Assuming you have had an email from the club stating where to go and how to do it picking your seat.

Nah I haven't, I'm just on the online sales page having a look. I've got 'New STWL pre-requisite' in my purchase history, and when I tick the ACS boxes it takes me to a payment page (just for the ACS), but if I don't tick the boxes it says smart card error. I'm just checking to see if anybody can actually buy one.
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« Reply #1035 on: July 4, 2011, 02:23:53 PM »
I got the same problem, think you need a email first?

That would make sense! I just got a bit scared in case it was just me.
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« Reply #1036 on: July 4, 2011, 02:26:02 PM »
That would make sense! I just got a bit scared in case it was just me.

Don't panic, i thought that we wasnt meant to be in there yet. If some one else has purchased one then maybe we are.
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Re: Season Ticket Waiting List
« Reply #1038 on: July 4, 2011, 02:30:32 PM »
You got a link mate I can't find that

http://www.liverpoolfc.talent-sport.co.uk/PagesPublic/ProductBrowse/standAndAreaSelection.aspx?stadium=AS&product=ST1112&campaign=&type=S

If your legible should just be able to click where you want one and buy one I reckon? I done it to check and it says I don't qualify, which I shouldn't at the mo 134 places out, but should imagine if your in the 2000 it should go through, unless the club are going to contact each of the 2000?? 

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« Reply #1039 on: July 4, 2011, 02:32:23 PM »
http://www.liverpoolfc.talent-sport.co.uk/PagesPublic/ProductBrowse/standAndAreaSelection.aspx?stadium=AS&product=ST1112&campaign=&type=S

If your legible should just be able to click where you want one and buy one I reckon? I done it to check and it says I don't qualify, which I shouldn't at the mo 134 places out, but should imagine if your in the 2000 it should go through, unless the club are going to contact each of the 2000?? 

Yes, they are contacting people in order.
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