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Re: Glen Johnson 2.5. Now with improved tackling
« Reply #2520 on: June 16, 2012, 05:47:48 PM »
Really hoping he can make it through the Euros without getting injured.  Wouldn't be horrible if he does because we have Kelly and Flanagan as cover, but I'd love for us to get 30+ league games out of him this year (he's gotten 25, 28, and 23 the last 3 years... a bit surprised it was only 23 last year, to be honest).

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Re: Glen Johnson 2.5. Now with improved tackling
« Reply #2521 on: June 16, 2012, 06:10:36 PM »
Best thing about Glen is that he never hides. After all this criticism he gets he still enjoys having a massive influence in games. Always available and looking for the ball, gets forward when he can and stamps down his mark. I see him dominate teams down the right side of the pitch way way more times than I see any other fullback in the prem do it.



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Re: Glen Johnson 2.5. Now with improved tackling
« Reply #2522 on: June 16, 2012, 06:19:59 PM »
Just rewatched the game last night and thats why Glen is no1 choice for England. Cant be letting this guy go. Ive always liked him and been my preferred choice. Never understood why our fans are always on his back. 2 great tackles in the box and a sublime cross which almost led to a goal. Please stay Glen.
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Re: Glen Johnson 2.5. Now with improved tackling
« Reply #2523 on: June 16, 2012, 07:22:26 PM »
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Re: Glen Johnson 2.5. Now with improved tackling
« Reply #2524 on: June 16, 2012, 07:34:37 PM »
Comments on The Telegraph's ratings are entertaining.

Yeah, I saw that: Duncan White (Telegraph) Johnson 4
 Owes Walcott big time. He was played Mellberg onside for Sweden’s first and then carried the ball into his own net, capping a sloppy performance.


So what how did Johnson cope for 61 minutes before Walcott came on?
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Re: Glen Johnson 2.5. Now with improved tackling
« Reply #2525 on: June 16, 2012, 08:16:25 PM »
Just rewatched the game last night and thats why Glen is no1 choice for England. Cant be letting this guy go. Ive always liked him and been my preferred choice. Never understood why our fans are always on his back. 2 great tackles in the box and a sublime cross which almost led to a goal. Please stay Glen.

Which cross was that? I don't remember him making a good cross for a few months now. He's a poor crosser as is Enrique.

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Re: Glen Johnson 2.5. Now with improved tackling
« Reply #2526 on: June 16, 2012, 08:17:19 PM »
Which cross was that? I don't remember him making a good cross for a few months now. He's a poor crosser as is Enrique.

No he isn't. Not at all as bad as Jose.

See Carroll v Chelsea (league game) & for Terry last night.

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Re: Glen Johnson 2.5. Now with improved tackling
« Reply #2527 on: June 16, 2012, 08:19:23 PM »
Talksport gave him a 4/10...the worst in the team....AGENDA!!!!!

What the fuck, easily the best defender
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Re: Glen Johnson 2.5. Now with improved tackling
« Reply #2528 on: June 16, 2012, 08:25:20 PM »
No he isn't. Not at all as bad as Jose.

See Carroll v Chelsea (league game) & for Terry last night.

Wasn't the Terry one from Walcott? I don't remember the Chelsea one.

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Re: Glen Johnson 2.5. Now with improved tackling
« Reply #2529 on: June 16, 2012, 08:32:58 PM »
Wasn't the Terry one from Walcott? I don't remember the Chelsea one.

nope, that was Johnson, hes more than capable of putting a good ball in

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Re: Glen Johnson 2.5. Now with improved tackling
« Reply #2530 on: June 16, 2012, 08:35:26 PM »
Take no notice of what the press say about him as there after Johnson because he made them look the pricks they are over Suarez, particularly that idiot from the mirror.

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Re: Glen Johnson 2.5. Now with improved tackling
« Reply #2531 on: June 16, 2012, 09:00:02 PM »
Without question the best defender by a country mile last night..

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Re: Glen Johnson 2.5. Now with improved tackling
« Reply #2532 on: June 16, 2012, 09:05:02 PM »
Very very unlucky for the OG.

Saved England's bacon a number of times with excellent tackles.

He's had a very good tournament so far.
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Re: Glen Johnson 2.5. Now with improved tackling
« Reply #2533 on: June 16, 2012, 09:12:02 PM »
Has had a good tournament so far, but Lescott has been England's best player so far.

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Re: Glen Johnson 2.5. Now with improved tackling
« Reply #2534 on: June 16, 2012, 09:17:09 PM »
Has had a good tournament so far, but Lescott has been England's best player so far.
Gerrard has been Englands best player, by a mile.
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Re: Glen Johnson 2.5. Now with improved tackling
« Reply #2535 on: June 16, 2012, 09:25:57 PM »
Gerrard has been Englands best player, by a mile.

I disagree.

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Re: Glen Johnson 2.5. Now with improved tackling
« Reply #2536 on: June 16, 2012, 09:30:27 PM »
I disagree.
Well I disagree with your disagreement.
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Re: Glen Johnson 2.5. Now with improved tackling
« Reply #2537 on: June 16, 2012, 09:37:14 PM »
Well I disagree with your disagreement.

Then we're both in agreement about our mutual disagreement.

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Re: Glen Johnson 2.5. Now with improved tackling
« Reply #2538 on: June 16, 2012, 11:03:43 PM »
Which cross was that? I don't remember him making a good cross for a few months now. He's a poor crosser as is Enrique.

If you can't remember his cross to Terry it explains why you can't remember him making a good cross for months.

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Re: Glen Johnson 2.5. Now with improved tackling
« Reply #2539 on: June 16, 2012, 11:15:28 PM »
If Johno was further up, Terry would have played them on anyway. And as the senior figure in that back four, its down to Terry to get them all out.
Unfotunately you are wrong about that. When Ibrahimovic took his second shot Mellberg was closer to the goal line than Terry.
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Re: Glen Johnson 2.5. Now with improved tackling
« Reply #2540 on: June 16, 2012, 11:29:48 PM »
Gerrard has been Englands best player, by a mile.

Yep.

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Re: Glen Johnson 2.5. Now with improved tackling
« Reply #2541 on: June 16, 2012, 11:39:35 PM »
Has had a good tournament so far, but Lescott has been England's best player so far.

Lescott!?!? Surely you're trolling? Because he scored that free header Gerrard put on a plate? Nowhere near. Him and Terry have been average at best, against Sweden absolute crap.

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Re: Glen Johnson 2.5. Now with improved tackling
« Reply #2542 on: June 16, 2012, 11:44:45 PM »
Not sure how people always carry bias for their own teams players, its as bad as those who buy into the media bullshit pinned to players.

Johnson was the only one playing Mellberg onside, and it was clear to see. It was a mistake, and one of very few he made in the game so there's no need to cover it up and water it down by saying its not all his fault, it was, it happened and despite this big mistake he still managed to outperform most of the players on the pitch which is all the more impressive to me.



Terry is in line with the player closest to Johnson, remove Glen and its the ball played through to Mellberg, the flag being raised and the danger is gone.

We don't have to shift the blame anytime one of our players makes a mistake, bias in some ways is natural when a teams players are involved in certain situations in an international. When its black and white a mistake was a certain players fault accepting that doesn't make you a bad fan of your club.

To me Glens positives have far outweighed his negatives in the two games so far. He's made some wonderful recovering tackles and covered his teammates masking their mistakes a number of times, the Mellberg goal was Johnsons fault but it doesn't mean he hasn't been great so far.
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Re: Glen Johnson 2.5. Now with improved tackling
« Reply #2543 on: June 16, 2012, 11:46:50 PM »
Well said Babel. If you were this clever on the pitch you may have got somewhere.

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Re: Glen Johnson 2.5. Now with improved tackling
« Reply #2544 on: June 16, 2012, 11:51:11 PM »
Well said Babel. If you were this clever on the pitch you may have got somewhere.

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Re: Glen Johnson 2.5. Now with improved tackling
« Reply #2545 on: June 17, 2012, 01:07:45 AM »
He cocked up by playing Melberg onside but Cole and Young made their own cock-ups for the goal too. To single out Johnson would be unfair, especially how well he performed on the whole.
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Re: Glen Johnson 2.5. Now with improved tackling
« Reply #2546 on: June 17, 2012, 10:05:51 AM »
He's been excellent at the Euro so far, both going forward and defending. He's put in a couple of real shifts. His tackling for the most part has been spot-on. And I've seen some great passing/crossing from him so far.
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Re: Glen Johnson 2.5. Now with improved tackling
« Reply #2547 on: June 18, 2012, 12:30:24 AM »
How is it possible he doesn't make our top 10 shirt sellers?

Henderson, Carroll, friggin Enrique, Carragher somehow make it above him. Ridiculous.

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Re: Glen Johnson 2.5. Now with improved tackling
« Reply #2548 on: June 18, 2012, 12:34:48 AM »
How is it possible he doesn't make our top 10 shirt sellers?

Henderson, Carroll, friggin Enrique, Carragher somehow make it above him. Ridiculous.

Not surprising that 3 of our signings from last season sold more shirts than Johnson and Carragher is a local hero, I suspect he'll be ahead of Henderson and Enrique this season.
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Re: Glen Johnson 2.5. Now with improved tackling
« Reply #2549 on: June 18, 2012, 12:35:52 AM »
Johnson's my favourite player in the current squad. If I was a blert I'd buy the new top and get his name on it.
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Re: Glen Johnson 2.5. Now with improved tackling
« Reply #2550 on: June 18, 2012, 12:36:16 AM »
Not surprising that 3 of our signings from last season sold more shirts than Johnson and Carragher is a local hero, I suspect he'll be ahead of Henderson and Enrique this season.
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Re: Glen Johnson 2.5. Now with improved tackling
« Reply #2551 on: June 18, 2012, 12:36:53 AM »
How is it possible he doesn't make our top 10 shirt sellers?

Henderson, Carroll, friggin Enrique, Carragher somehow make it above him. Ridiculous.

You pick the most bizarre things to get angry about.

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« Reply #2552 on: June 18, 2012, 12:38:29 AM »
You pick the most bizarre things to get angry about.
I dunno. I think shirt sales tend to say a lot about the fanbase. Right now what it is saying isn't something very pleasant.

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Re: Glen Johnson 2.5. Now with improved tackling
« Reply #2553 on: June 18, 2012, 12:40:46 AM »
I dunno. I think shirt sales tend to say a lot about the fanbase. Right now what it is saying isn't something very pleasant.
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Re: Glen Johnson 2.5. Now with improved tackling
« Reply #2554 on: June 18, 2012, 12:43:00 AM »
How is it possible he doesn't make our top 10 shirt sellers?

Henderson, Carroll, friggin Enrique, Carragher somehow make it above him. Ridiculous.

To be honest I'm surprised Bellamy, Downing and Johnson didn't sell more shirts than those.
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Re: Glen Johnson 2.5. Now with improved tackling
« Reply #2555 on: June 18, 2012, 12:44:50 AM »
Johnson's my favourite player in the current squad. If I was a blert I'd buy the new top and get his name on it.

Why is someone a blert for buying the new top and putting their favourite player on the back?

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Re: Glen Johnson 2.5. Now with improved tackling
« Reply #2556 on: June 18, 2012, 02:26:49 AM »
To be honest I'm surprised Bellamy, Downing and Johnson didn't sell more shirts than those.

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Re: Glen Johnson 2.5. Now with improved tackling
« Reply #2557 on: June 18, 2012, 05:36:08 AM »
Am I the only one thinking Johnson is one of the better technical players in the Liverpool/England squads?

Always love when he attacks and cuts in on his weaker left foot, just like he did against Chelsea at the Bridge last season. Gets slated unfairly in the English press for God knows what reason.
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Re: Glen Johnson 2.5. Now with improved tackling
« Reply #2558 on: June 18, 2012, 07:21:11 AM »
Am I the only one thinking Johnson is one of the better technical players in the Liverpool/England squads?

Always love when he attacks and cuts in on his weaker left foot, just like he did against Chelsea at the Bridge last season. Gets slated unfairly in the English press for God knows what reason.

Alongside Suarez, he is the best player we have who can work out of tight spaces with ease. Much like Alves does for Barcelona.
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Re: Glen Johnson 2.5. Now with improved tackling
« Reply #2559 on: June 18, 2012, 08:01:07 AM »
Saw him against the Swedes and for me at least his worst offence always is his positioning/reading of the flow of the game. Skill on the ball he has in spades, he has a good turn of pace and his tackling has improved over the last 12 months - but here's the big BUT and I'm speaking as a former full-back who loves to see blokes going forward and threatening down the flanks. I think he is secretly an aspiring attacking midfielder who has been asked to play the wing-back role. He looks impressive going forward because it's his natural instinct. But his positional sense in the game - when the oppponents have the ball and are threatening - is not great in my view and that's because he's not a natural defender. If he was a natural defender, his positional sense would instinctively be better than it is.

I accept that today's game gets by without recognised wingers by taking the multi-purpose wing-back option for the most part. I'm in my mid 60's though and there's still no better sight in my view than a tricky flying winger creating havoc for your opponents.

Exciting as that sight might be, the compromise of today's game means something has to give and usually, with players who can be exciting and happy to be going forwards, it tends to be their defensive positional play when the move breaks down.

I don't see anyone for England who's better at what he does in that position right now but maybe I'm just not excited by the multi-faceted role itself. Give me a full-back that first and foremost knows how to defend - in all its facets. If he has sufficient turn of pace, can read the flow of the threats and is decent on the ball that's a huge bonus. But there can be no mistake - the primary responsibility of any defender is to DEFEND - in all aspects.
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