Author Topic: Glen Johnson 3.0. Bossing it, much better than Windows 8. (Read 208162 times)

Vidocq · « **Reply #200 on:** February 9, 2011, 06:39:18 PM »

Quote from: shredder_red on February 8, 2011, 09:39:50 PM

We need a long term replacement for Carra. Agger's doing great, but Skrtel's a liability imo. Nothing like a domineering force at the back of the Vidic/Ivanovic mould.

Kelly can replace Carra..in 3-3-3-1 formation that we are playing he would fit good

Kelly Skrtel Agger

he can work briliant with Johnson at right...

lobsterboy · « **Reply #201 on:** February 9, 2011, 06:40:51 PM »

Quote from: shredder_red on February 8, 2011, 09:39:50 PM

We need a long term replacement for Carra. Agger's doing great, but Skrtel's a liability imo. Nothing like a domineering force at the back of the Vidic/Ivanovic mould.

Vidic didn't look that domineering when the rentboy was regularly tearing him a new arsehole.

mercurial · « **Reply #202 on:** February 9, 2011, 06:57:52 PM »

Quote from: Gus 1855 on February 6, 2011, 09:57:45 PM

Glen at right wing back would be awesome, but Kelly is in brilliant form. Maybe at somepoint in the future we may see something like:

Reina

Kelly Carra Agger

Johnson Lucas Aurelio

Gerrard Meireles

Carroll Suarez

yummy!!! Its actually a team we should see on the field later this season. Maybe maxi/kuyt getting in ahead of Aurelio. Imagine this team going out against the mancs, evra and rio will dare not move into our half. Terry could not make any of his runs against us because of the threat our wing backs carried on the counter.

gray19lfc · « **Reply #203 on:** February 9, 2011, 09:17:06 PM »

Great work to set up Young for England's second tonight.

JoeCole is for life, not just Christmas! · « **Reply #204 on:** February 9, 2011, 09:20:41 PM »

Had a very good game apart from 2 mistakes in the opening minutes. Poulsen and Agger done well too.

keano7 · « **Reply #205 on:** February 9, 2011, 09:22:42 PM »

Looked uncomfortable and nervy first half but second half was back to his best and great assist to Young for the goal.

Lubeh · « **Reply #206 on:** February 9, 2011, 09:25:14 PM »

Johnson played well apart from two mistakes (loss of concentration?), Agger played well and Poulson played very well, Also was intersted in a few other players on the pitch aswell, ones that have apparently been linked to us of late, I thought Downing played quite well, as did Young two of the England lads who we have been linked with, and the Danish guy we have been linked with Erikson impressed me, but that is possbly for another thread.

Would have been interesting to see Johnson on the left when Cole went off but I guess Johnson would perhaps prefer to be on the right when playing for England as he feels its his best position.

All in all a decent night for the Liverpool players and Decent for the posible future ones aswell!

Borninbethlehem · « **Reply #207 on:** February 13, 2011, 12:17:30 PM »

Looks comfortable in defence, but very uncomfortable in attack when played on the left. Nearly broke my screen with the times he fucked up in the final third. However, the thing to remember, he is a stop gap at LB until we buy Fabio Coentrao in the summer.

Redeo · « **Reply #208 on:** February 17, 2011, 10:07:24 PM »

Glen should definitely be played as a right back where he is truly most effective. (Not intended as a slight at Kelly). He doesn't become aimless or lost on the right wing, which tends to happen when on the left. From what I saw, he was our only true threat tonight. Given our lack of creativity on wings, not playing Johnson on the right is just too much of a waste...

Borninbethlehem · « **Reply #209 on:** February 17, 2011, 10:11:01 PM »

Looks ALOT better going forward when played in his favoured position.

JovaJova · « **Reply #210 on:** February 17, 2011, 10:16:55 PM »

Quote from: Redeo on February 17, 2011, 10:07:24 PM

Glen should definitely be played as a right back where he is truly most effective. (Not intended as a slight at Kelly). He doesn't become aimless or lost on the right wing, which tends to happen when on the left. From what I saw, he was our only true threat tonight. Given our lack of creativity on wings, not playing Johnson on the right is just too much of a waste...

Tonight convinced me that Kelly at right back with Johnson ahead of him (pending Aurelio being fit enough to play at left back) is by far and away our best current option for these three players

Johnson was skinning players all night while Dirk was busy falling over himself trying to get the ball out of his feet. It seems such an obvious solution.

ranimi · « **Reply #211 on:** February 17, 2011, 10:18:42 PM »

motm tonight....

Ryan M · « **Reply #212 on:** February 17, 2011, 10:25:05 PM »

Quote from: ranimi on February 17, 2011, 10:18:42 PM

motm tonight....

Played really well second half. Well done Glenn keep up the good work.

stevedo · « **Reply #213 on:** February 17, 2011, 10:26:15 PM »

Our only creative player tonight, decent performance.

Azi · « **Reply #214 on:** February 17, 2011, 10:27:50 PM »

kenny really giving him praise tonight

people were saying he cant defend well since av bin here only one person has went past him ...

me

Siannn. · « **Reply #215 on:** February 17, 2011, 10:28:21 PM »

Quote from: JovaJova on February 17, 2011, 10:16:55 PM

Tonight convinced me that Kelly at right back with Johnson ahead of him (pending Aurelio being fit enough to play at left back) is by far and away our best current option for these three players

Johnson was skinning players all night while Dirk was busy falling over himself trying to get the ball out of his feet. It seems such an obvious solution.

Agreed.

Fordy · « **Reply #216 on:** February 17, 2011, 10:28:52 PM »

MOTM for me by a country mile tonight.

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #217 on:** February 17, 2011, 10:41:17 PM »

Quote from: Fordy on February 17, 2011, 10:28:52 PM

MOTM for me by a country mile tonight.

Yep, played very well I thought and looked far and away our most likely to create something. I do feel sorry for him at times - he did plenty of good things in the 1st half that barely merited a comment from the pundits but the slightest hint of an error and it was mentioned. I'm sure he's big enough and old enough not to care but still seems harsh. Some interesting selection dilemnas brewing once everyone at the back is fit.

Redeo · « **Reply #218 on:** February 17, 2011, 10:45:10 PM »

Quote from: JovaJova on February 17, 2011, 10:16:55 PM

Tonight convinced me that Kelly at right back with Johnson ahead of him (pending Aurelio being fit enough to play at left back) is by far and away our best current option for these three players

Johnson was skinning players all night while Dirk was busy falling over himself trying to get the ball out of his feet. It seems such an obvious solution.

I wouldn't mind trying that out. Bale and Riise (at one point) have both made similar transitions with some success. I think Johnson has some of the same qualities. If Riise had a good shot and Bale has a good shot + tremendous speed, Johnson has perhaps strongest dribbling skills among these three. He's not a trickster, but just somehow succeeds in simply running around defenders. I think with Johnson it is mostly about positional awareness and timing of his bursts of speed...

Visigoth33 · « **Reply #219 on:** February 17, 2011, 10:47:47 PM »

Quote from: JovaJova on February 17, 2011, 10:16:55 PM

Tonight convinced me that Kelly at right back with Johnson ahead of him (pending Aurelio being fit enough to play at left back) is by far and away our best current option for these three players

Johnson was skinning players all night while Dirk was busy falling over himself trying to get the ball out of his feet. It seems such an obvious solution.

very true.

Rohit · « **Reply #220 on:** February 17, 2011, 11:10:44 PM »

For me he is our best right back, going forward he was immense tonight and was pretty decent defensively too. I feel for him at times he has to do the job of two men on that right hand side. I can see why kenny plays him on the left as our left back options are kind of shite, fabio cant stay fit long enough and kelly is good enough for the starting 11.

caze · « **Reply #221 on:** February 17, 2011, 11:12:53 PM »

he really proved me right tonight, right-back is where he belongs.

Scarlet` · « **Reply #222 on:** February 17, 2011, 11:21:19 PM »

Only player that played well on the attack tonight.

farawayred · « **Reply #223 on:** February 17, 2011, 11:22:39 PM »

I do not subscribe to the 'Johnson for RW' calls with Kelly as RB. I see it as a waste of talent (of both lads) and as gross disbalance in the team. If we had similar options on the left I'd reconsider, but even then I don't know if I would be convinced to play the best RB in England as a RW. Isn't it better to buy a RW?

Rohit · « **Reply #224 on:** February 17, 2011, 11:35:37 PM »

Quote from: farawayred on February 17, 2011, 11:22:39 PM

I do not subscribe to the 'Johnson for RW' calls with Kelly as RB. I see it as a waste of talent (of both lads) and as gross disbalance in the team. If we had similar options on the left I'd reconsider, but even then I don't know if I would be convinced to play the best RB in England as a RW. Isn't it better to buy a RW?

My thoughts exactly, johnson is a top drawer attacking right back every good team has a great attacking fullback in the modern game. Why take glens runs from deep away from him when we should get aproper winger who allows glen to continue what he does but also add a threat themselves. His attacking game is so weakened on the left i feel for him to be honest.

sattapaal · « **Reply #225 on:** February 18, 2011, 12:26:40 AM »

Best player on the pitch. Man of the match by a mile. Could have won the game for us with that magnificent outside of the foot shot.

Kuyt could be seen as a hindrance to his game tonight.

Chakan · « **Reply #226 on:** February 18, 2011, 12:27:51 AM »

Did very well tonight, got caught out of position a few times but was dangerous going forward.

lafuriaroja · « **Reply #227 on:** February 18, 2011, 12:38:38 AM »

Should be playing at RB with a proper winger in front of him. Would have opposition LM/LB pinned back all night with that combination.

farawayred · « **Reply #228 on:** February 18, 2011, 12:39:41 AM »

Quote from: sattapaal on February 18, 2011, 12:26:40 AM

Best player on the pitch. Man of the match by a mile. Could have won the game for us with that magnificent outside of the foot shot.

Kuyt could be seen as a hindrance to his game tonight.

That was a very wrong choice on his part. Could have won the game had he passed the ball. But he made the run on the first place...

lafuriaroja · « **Reply #229 on:** February 18, 2011, 12:40:45 AM »

Quote from: Chakan on February 18, 2011, 12:27:51 AM

Did very well tonight, got caught out of position a few times but was dangerous going forward.

He was caught out of position when we had a slow, patient build up, Johnson made his run up the flank, and Kuyt gave the ball away in a bad position, allow Sparta to break.

Fred the Red · « **Reply #230 on:** February 18, 2011, 01:10:13 AM »

Quote from: sattapaal on February 18, 2011, 12:26:40 AM

Best player on the pitch. Man of the match by a mile. Could have won the game for us with that magnificent outside of the foot shot.

Kuyt could be seen as a hindrance to his game tonight.

Sorry to disagree pal but I err...... disagree

Johnson was just about ordinary tonight. As were a lot, if not most of our team on this occasion.

I'm not being being unrealistic, or a hopeless romantic when I compare the football on display on the television screens the last couple of evenings to what was on display tonight. Nor am I being a pessimist by what I'm about to say. But I'm sure that that we all witnessed the differences ourselves without some nameless/faceless individual pointing it it out to us. And yes I'm talking about me, not Sky Sports.

Johnson hasn't done anything nearly enough to warrant a start ahead of Kelly, and Kenny as much as agreed that by stating that Kelly had been left out as a precaution or 'for a rest' due to the knocks he's had lately. to be honest I think we'd struggle to find anyone who'd disagree. That's not saying that Johnson hasn't played well either. He's been doing alright in his new position(s).

But lets not allude ourselves, if we want to win the best honours year in and year out then he's not the answer, not at right back anyway. And certainly not at left back.

We did a job tonight and we ended up with a good result, one that league winners& leaders of two other countries would have dared hope to have had at this point, but the fact remains that there are far too many 'average' players in our team for us to even pretend that we're back in the big time. Things are looking up, even without the Torres goal machine, but we need to continue to grow year in year out before we can 'expect' again.

Nothing wrong with hope though, I'm a big advocate of that and I'll always dream of what might be. Fourth place and a Europa win it is then

stoopid yank · « **Reply #231 on:** February 18, 2011, 01:26:00 AM »

Quote from: farawayred on February 17, 2011, 11:22:39 PM

I do not subscribe to the 'Johnson for RW' calls with Kelly as RB. I see it as a waste of talent (of both lads) and as gross disbalance in the team. If we had similar options on the left I'd reconsider, but even then I don't know if I would be convinced to play the best RB in England as a RW. Isn't it better to buy a RW?

Why not? Is Bale a waste of talent at LW instead of LB for Spurs?

Johnson was the only attacking threat in the team today, playing from RB! Did you not see him against Chelsea as a wingback with less defensive duties? He was immense.

Chakan · « **Reply #232 on:** February 18, 2011, 01:28:20 AM »

Quote from: farawayred on February 17, 2011, 11:22:39 PM

I do not subscribe to the 'Johnson for RW' calls with Kelly as RB. I see it as a waste of talent (of both lads) and as gross disbalance in the team. If we had similar options on the left I'd reconsider, but even then I don't know if I would be convinced to play the best RB in England as a RW. Isn't it better to buy a RW?

Dunno mate, he had some really good runs when Skittles came on for Ngog , he seemed to push into that right midfield role behind kuyt and infront of Soto who moved across to cover. Wouldn't mind testing it out for a game or 2 to see what happens

GrkStav · « **Reply #233 on:** February 18, 2011, 01:42:41 AM »

Quote from: Chakan on February 18, 2011, 01:28:20 AM

Dunno mate, he had some really good runs when Skittles came on for Ngog , he seemed to push into that right midfield role behind kuyt and infront of Soto who moved across to cover. Wouldn't mind testing it out for a game or 2 to see what happens

But with Skrtel coming in, and us playing Soto - Carragher - Skrtel as our back line, Johnson wasn't playing as a right winger (or right midfielder) but as a RWB. In theory, Wilson was also now LWB, but he wasn't exactly.

We switched from a 4-2-3-1 with NGog as the '1' to a 3-4-2-1 with Kuyt as the '1' and Maxi and Cole as the '2'.

3rdStone · « **Reply #234 on:** February 18, 2011, 01:54:49 AM »

Quote from: Fred the Red on February 18, 2011, 01:10:13 AM

Johnson hasn't done anything nearly enough to warrant a start ahead of Kelly, and Kenny as much as agreed that by stating that Kelly had been left out as a precaution or 'for a rest' due to the knocks he's had lately. to be honest I think we'd struggle to find anyone who'd disagree. That's not saying that Johnson hasn't played well either. He's been doing alright in his new position(s).

But lets not allude ourselves, if we want to win the best honours year in and year out then he's not the answer, not at right back anyway. And certainly not at left back.

I think Johnson is our best option on both sides but plays on the left because Kelly can't.

And he's more than good enough to be a wing back at any top side challenging for honours.

Golden_Child · « **Reply #235 on:** February 18, 2011, 02:15:12 AM »

Hmmm, it seems like a few people have been persuaded by Pat 'The twat' Nevin's deconstruction of Glen at half time.

Personally I feel that it's the same old situation with him. Outstanding going forward and about average defensively. He's not shit defensively by any means and adds more than enough attacking wise to merit a place in our side. He's an immensely talented footballer and is often our best outlet as our 'wingers' seem to lack either the pace or skill to go past opposition full backs. Take him out of the side and we would seem even more predictable than we currently are.

Defensively Kelly has proven himself at least the equal of Johnson so I am happy for him to play regularly. However, Johnson is probably the best full back in England in an attacking sense and I feel that we would lose a massive amount of flair if we decided not to pick him. Obviously Kenny agrees with this by playing him on the left. I realise that this may be a silly comparison but taken into context it makes as much sense as playing robben or Ribery on the left as glen is very able at skinning a player and crossing with his left as he is at cutting in on his right and doing damage. Hrs got a decent shot on him with either foot and I can see a future for him on either flank at Liverpool.

Saying that, I also wouldn't mind joining the calls for an experiment on the right wing. I love dirk and his (cliche alert) work ethic but feel than Johnson would strike fear into opposing left backs in the same way Gareth bale does on the left. Johnson is a quality player and if he was Brazilian people would be fapping over him constantly

GrkStav · « **Reply #236 on:** February 18, 2011, 02:18:03 AM »

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Johnson is a quality player and if he was Brazilian people would be fapping over him constantly

No, sorry. At his best he's better than Alves but on a regular basis there is no comparison. His decision-making leaves much to be desired. He seems to find it very difficult to see the big picture in a game. To me (and I know, unfortunately, I am biased) he doesn't act as the seasoned, experienced international that he is. Today, he was less assured, positionally and otherwise than Wilson, who is a young center-back playing at LB.

Bob Loblaw · « **Reply #237 on:** February 18, 2011, 02:34:13 AM »

Needs to be given a chance at RM.

Beninger · « **Reply #238 on:** February 18, 2011, 02:36:12 AM »

Was the only one with the ability to get past a player that we had on the pitch. Wish he would have passed instead of shot with that one chance though.

Golden_Child · « **Reply #239 on:** February 18, 2011, 02:39:35 AM »

Quote from: GrkStav on February 18, 2011, 02:18:03 AM

No, sorry. At his best he's better than Alves but on a regular basis there is no comparison. His decision-making leaves much to be desired. He seems to find it very difficult to see the big picture in a game. To me (and I know, unfortunately, I am biased) he doesn't act as the seasoned, experienced international that he is. Today, he was less assured, positionally and otherwise than Wilson, who is a young center-back playing at LB.

I appreciate what you're saying mate but I don't agree with mentioning alves. He is massively overrated as a player and constantly gives the ball away IMHO.

As for Johnson, I admitted that defensively he is suspect but my point was that if you took him out of our side we would be a lot less potent as an attacking force. I feel alves is given way too much credit for simply being Brazilian and playing for barca. He was a weak link against the gooners and has often been the target for opposing teams a la johnson.

I feel that Johnson and alves are remarkably similar in their styles yet I feel that because alves is Brazilian I will be shot down on this point. My own opinion is that I would rather have arbeloa over either of them as he was a fantastic defender as well as offering an average attacking potential. Alves and Johnson for me are about equal in that they are both fantastic going forward but positionally lacking. Alves is not exposed as much because he is in the best side to have ever graced the planet. I feel that Johnson could probably play a similar part in the same side (controversial I know)

YNWA