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i know its another topic but i felt compelled to write it, and show how much i loved him and how much he has destroyed everything.

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why we loved him, why we hate him!




July 2007 seemed like a long time ago, not only was it when we fell in love with Torres but to put into context Hicks and Gillett were still liked! The club was seemingly on enough financial footing to go toe to toe with anyone. A new stadium, debt free club, new players and a bright new dawn was seemingly there for the taking.

All the talk was about who was coming in, for once Hicks and Gillett didn’t disappoint (though where they paid for this is anyones guess). Liverpool were rumoured to have paid anything up to 28m to secure the signing of Spanish striker Fernando Torres.
Torres had been a boyhood Atletico Madrid fan, but a noticeable armband with youll never walk alone on it didn’t go amiss by some eagle eyed soon to be internet terrorists.

Torres had made his debut for Atletico aged 16 at the end of the 2000-1 season. A week later a goal against Albacete was to be the first in a prolific career. Torres career began to take off at the end of the 2001-2 season as Atletico were promoted to La Liga in spain. A goal tally of 6 in the second division was then followed in 2002-3 by 13 in La Liga. Aged just 19 torres scored 19 league goals the following season, by now he was club captain and one of europes up and coming strikers in a team that finished 7th.

Chelsea and Newcastle were rumoured to be sniffing about. A brief feature for Spain in euro 2004 lead to further recognition soon after as Torres banged in 20 goals in 2004-5. A further 13 followed a year later with torres beginning to move Raul out of the international and form a deadly partnership with david villa. Spain disappointingly went out of the world cup in the second round, having again bottled another tournament. Torres scored 3 times. Liverpool were now in the running for him.

One final year at Atletico saw Torres score 15 times and now everyone wanted a piece of the kid. Man united were rumoured to be interested but as I cruised around the Mediterranean enjoying my summer holliers the worlds worst kept secret was unfolding, Torres number 9 at Anfield was no longer a rumour. 20m + put pay to that. It was one of the most exciting transfers in club history.

The first real glimpse of what was to come came on his home debut as torres scored a wonderful individual goal. After making a monkey of Chelsea’s Tal Ben Haim Torres cut in on his weak foot before sliding the ball home from an acute angle making it look oh so easy. The game finished 1-1, a special bond had been formed. At his next home game Torres scored twice in a 6-0 win over Derby County which put Liverpool top of the league. All was well in the world.

Even by this stage of his career Torres was already considered untouchable in the first 11, the over the top reaction to him being rested for 0-0 draws with Portsmouth and Birmingham saw to that. Torres followed this up with his first hattrick for the club in a 4-2 win at Reading in the league cup, despite being battered from pillar to post all match. We had something special. He could use his right foot, left foot, head and he could beat players, whilst over the first 10 yards torres could outpace a rocket. His popularity was skyrocketing.

Torres took his early season tally to 7 with a last minute equalizer versus Spurs but an injury on international duty saw torres miss 2 games and his return against Arsenal lasted until half time. After missing another 3 games which included an 8-0 win over Beşiktaş in the champions league, Torres came off the bench to score in a 2-0 win over Fulham at anfield. Liverpool’s next game in the Champions League saw them beat Porto 4-1 with torres scoring twice, his first two European goals.
Just days later torres was at it again in a 4-0 win over Bolton. A little dink over Bolton keeper Jaaskelainan drew comparsion with Kenny Dalglish’s famous goal against Bruges in 1978. A week later Liverpool lost their first league game at Reading all season. Torres was controversially withdrawn as Liverpool trailed 3-1. Midweek reigned on manager Rafa Benitez’s mind as Torres was subbed late on, but a fresh Fernando was ready for Liverpools must win game in Marseilles in the champions league group stage. The reds had managed just one point from 3 games before recovering to win 2 in a row, another one would be enough and when Torres scored with a superb individual effort inside 10 mins it was already game over. 2-0 up at the time, Liverpool would win 4-0.

Although torres didn’t have much impact the following week in a 1-0 defeat to Man united he was on the scoresheet twice again against Portsmouth (4-1) whilst he scored another superb goal against Derby during the Christmas season in a 2-1 win. A present was ordered for me at the times, Liverpool’s black away strip with torres 9 on the back, i like millions of others had a new idol. Even my young grand nephew got in on the act. He became known as “little torres”. I really wanted him to grow up so much like the real one.

As 2008 kicked off the reds seemed just too far away to win the league but the torres magic kept on flowing.  Torres kicked the new year off with goal number 16 of the season in a poor 1-1 home draw with Wigan. A stunning strike at Middlesboro in another  1-1 game only added to his stock but with the club embroiled in ownership struggles a league challenge was proving too much. Manager rafa benitez went to war with the owners refusal to back him, the fans threw their weight behind Benitez and the war would have devastating effects.

Torres again scored in a 3-0 win over Sunderland before the reds surprisingly went out of the fa cup at home to Barnsley. A change in tactics around this time allowed torres to flourish. Instead of the traditional 442, Liverpool kept a flat back 4 with 2 defensive mids thrown in to allow 3 attackers to roam left right and centre. With this Gerrard played in the middle just behind Torres. The effect was devastating at times. Towards the end of the 07-8 season Liverpool began to play some awesome stuff, it was to be a catalyst for the clubs strongest title challenge for years in 2009 but before that torres had some work to do.

$The last 16 of the champions league saw Liverpool tear into Inter Milan winning 2-0 in the home leg. Despite not scoring Torres hounded the Italians all night causing Marco Matterazzi to be sent off for silly fouls, Matterazzi simply couldn’t contain him. A few days later neither could Middlesboro. Torres rifled in a hattrick in a 3-2 win including one 25 yard belter. In Liverpool’s next home game he remarkably did it again. A wonderful volley, a superb piece of close control and finishing and one more for good measure saw Liverpool beat west ham 4-0. The greatest comparison was to come at home to Newcastle as torres shimmied the keeper before dinking in number 2 in a 3 nil win.  It reminded many of Pele’s famous dummy and miss for brazil against Uruguay, only difference was torres scored.

Midweek a goal vs inter Milan in the champions league put Liverpool into the quarter final 3-0 on aggregate. The 1-0 even saw inter fans applaud us off the field. Torres crisp volley saw to that.  Another header in a 2-1 win over Reading saw Liverpool hold onto 4th, despite their good performances the leagues standard was so high it was all we could do, despite losing just 4 league games all season. Torres ended the month by scoring the winner in a 1-0 over Everton at Anfield.

In the champions league Liverpool faced arsenal and after a 1-1 draw away we repeated the feat again in the league before the second leg of the champions league at anfield. Despite trailing early on the match was again evenly poised at 1-1 when torres took a knockdown from Crouch before unleashing an unholy shot smack bang in the top corner. Liverpool won the eventful match 4-2 on the night to set up a semi final with Chelsea. But before that Torres lashed in his 30th of the season against Blackburn in a 3-1 win.

In the semi final Torres scored in the second leg. With the match finishing 1-1 just like at anfield, Liverpool would narrowly lose 3-2 away to go out. Torres still ended the season well with a goal to beat man city 1-0 at anfield. This is so far the only time i had seen torres live. I had watch on telly away to city earlier in the season. Torres was marked by Richard dunne, dunne did aswell as anyone against him at anfield but in the two games torres got the better of him for a split second only once. The result was a torres goal. It said it all about torres for me, one chance GOAL. The season ended with his 33rd goal of the campaign against spurs. Remarkably not one of his goals was from a penalty or free kick. A year after joining us Torres was said by many to be the worlds best striker. He was the favourite to land the golden boot at euro 2008.

Although the honour would go to david villa, the part torres played shouldn’t be forgotten, indeed when villa couldn’t play the final torres played on his own upfront hounding the german back line into submission as spain beat germany 1-0 o secure their first trophy in almost 50 years. Such was our love for him and the club Spanish contingent some fans celebrated as if Liverpool had won it. So when he came back for 08-9 alongside new strike partner Robbie keane many felt this was the year we would win the title. Torres started it off well with a fine goal in a 1-0 win over sunderland. Normal service resumed.

However around this time torres began to get troubled with hamstring problems, he lasted just 20 mins at aston villa and didn’t feature at all in a 2-1 home win over man united. Liverpool managed fine, the club topped the table for much of the early part of the season. Torres eventually found his form by scoring twice at everton in a 2-0 win reminding everyone just how shit hot he was.  During that week a 3-1 champions league win over PSV saw him set up new strike partner Robbie keane for keanes first goal. A glorious partnership beckoned, although torres managed fine on his own as he lead a tremendous comeback the following Sunday as Liverpool came from 2 down to beat man city 3-2 away with torres scoring twice. Around this time yet another international duty related injury had rafa benitez pulling his hair out. Liverpool kept up their title challenge without the injured torres, this included a 1-0 win at Chelsea ending their long unbeaten run at Stamford bridge which put us top of the table. Annoyingly for Nando, he missed both champions league ties with atletico Madrid, his former club and was not even able to attend the away match which he had been given VIP passes for.

A return came with  a late sub appearance at home to west brom before a shake down in the league cup at spurs which Liverpool lost although didn’t appear to take over seriously. A sub appearance saw him set up gerrard in a 2-0 win at Bolton with our title challenge steaming along nicely. A full blooded 90 min show against Marseille saw Liverpool qualify from their champions league group but torres had again re-aggravated the hamstring injury of recent times and didn’t feature again for 7 games, league and cup. Despite dropping points against West ham and hull, Liverpool went top of the table going into 2009 thanks to a crushing 5-1 win over Newcastle. Torres then returned in the fa cup scoring late on in a 2-0 win over Preston although he was still someway short of fitness.

Rusty appearances followed against Stoke and Everton but he did set up a fine goal against the latter in the Mersey derby fa cup tie which finished 1-1. During this time manager Rafa Benitez was ridiculed for a rant he directed at man united manager alex ferguson, whilst skipper steven gerrard was arrested for an altercation in a nightclub. As for torres’ new partner Robbie keane 7 goals weren’t enough and just 6 months into his anfield career he rejoined spurs. The injury hit torres was the only striker of recognition at the club with David ngog largely untried.

As Liverpool  suddenly looked like falling out of the title picture altogether Torres hauled them back into the race with a brilliant late double to see off Chelsea 2-0 at anfield, remarkably his first goals at anfield for 9 months. A last minute winner at Portsmouth the following week kept us ticking but a draw with man city and defeat at Middlesboro followed. Around this time Benitez was heavily linked with the sack, despite a good start to the season ownership problems kept rearing its head. But before losing to boro, Liverpool had won 1-0 against Real Madrid away despite Torres suffering from rough treatment at the hands of madrids defence.

Torres returned in the home leg as Liverpool turned in a 5 star performance to beat real Madrid 4-0 with torres scoring the opener. It was in my opinion Liverpools finest performance of all time. It could easily have been 10-0. 4 days later Liverpool travelled to man united and despite losing an early goal they stunned the whole league by trashing the manc dickfaces 4-1 with torres scoring the games equalizer. Indeed before the game united lead by 7 points with a game in hand, now they were rattled while nemanja vidic was talked about as player of the year. Torres destroyed that notion in 90 minutes with vidic ending up sent off. Torres had proved himself again. Liverpool began to close on united and got the gap down to one point and briefly lead the table after winning at Fulham. However the season ended potless, Torres scored again against Chelsea at anfield but Liverpool lost 3-1 in the champions league and would lose overall 7-5. Whilst in the league things slipped away after a frantic 4-4 draw with arsenal in which torres scored twice. His last goal on an injury hit season was in the 3-1 win over spurs in which he scored his 50th goal for the club.

So for 2009-10 it seemed things were going in the right direction ownership rows or not. Torres got himself a new 4 year deal with a wage of 110k a week and all was right but when owners tom hicks and George gillett provided no net spending in the transfer window (despite a 30m sale of Alonso) it saw the Liverpool title challenge end before it began. Torres began in fine form scoring in a 4-0 win over stoke, a 1-3 villa defeat and a 3-2 win at Bolton, whilst at west ham two stunners in a 3-2 win put us 3rd. Torres was on fire. Every goal was a love affair, i seriously loved the guy. We all did!

The following week even man united fans felt the need to text me with one going “wow, he truly is the best in the world” this after a hattrick in a 6-1 demolition of hull. Soon though another international duty injury occurred and Liverpools momentum stopped stone dead. They lost 6 of their next 7 ironically only beating man united, a game where an unfit torres tore united apart in a 2-0 win. Even against Fulham torres scored despite the side limping to a 3-1 defeat but it was clear torres was painfully unfit. Hamstring and knee problems restricted game time and before long Liverpool seemed out of the running to even finish 4th whilst their group stage champions league saga was embarrassing with the reds going out with one match to spare.

Torres still had his qualities although few would say Liverpool deserved to win 1-0 at villa with torres scoring a late winner having returned earlier in the month with a goal against wigan . a first half injury against reading in the fa cup again had many pulling their hair out. Liverpool exited that competition. Torres didn’t play for 8 games before returning late on in a 0-0 draw with man city, one of many potential new clubs linked with him. By this stage Liverpool were some way off the coveted 4th spot. Mid march torres still showed his instincts with 2 against Portsmouth in a 4-1 win and followed that  with 2 more at home to lille in the europa league. Another goal against united was next even if it couldn’t prevent a 2-1 defeat.  Alex ferguson even commented that had torres been fit all season Liverpool could have been fighting his team for  1st.

He took his tally to 7 goals in 4 games with 2 goals against sunderland in a 3-0 win, one of which was the goal of the season as he cut in from the left to fire in a wonderful goal into the top corner. No wonder we loved him.  Around this time though his season began to come to a close. Torres was infamously withdrawn against Birmingham, the 1-1 draw was for many the end of any hope of us finishing 4th. Although recent rumours suggest that Benitez started torres amid false reports from team medics which may have been a result of pressure from the club hierarchy, something the manager was quick to attack at many points. Certainly torres showed no signs of injury 4 days later in a 4-1 win over benfica which put Liverpool into the semi final of the europa league. Torres scored twice, the first of which was a beautiful breakaway whilst he again copied the dalglish bruges goal for his second of the tie. Torres would again miss a game with his old club atletico Madrid due to injury and didn’t feature again for the rest of the season. His knee flared up again and in the end he only barely made the world cup squad for spain and looked well short of fitness all tournament eventually losing his place in the starting 11. Torres failed to score a goal all tournament and although he was delighted with the win in the final and a world cup medal, torres again injured his hamstring in the final. However Liverpool fans again celebrated for him and the large contingent at the club as torres was pictured draping a Liverpool scarf around the famous trophy.

When he returned he was one of many players to voice his opinion that universally hated owners hicks and gillett should sell the club. Torres also pledged his immediate future to the club despite the sacking of manager rafa benitez, following a disappointing 7th place finish in the league. Liverpool were not in the champions league and benitez was replaced by Fulham manager roy hodgson.  We still had him on board atleast. Season tallies of 33, 17 and 22 despite injuries was nothing short of remarkable.  Despite his lack of fitness Torres looked raring to go in the opening day fixture against Arsenal, a late sub appearance in a 1-1 draw. He ended august with his first of the season in a 1-0 win over west brom but some began to wonder of his use. A dreadful start saw us win just one of our first 8 league games. Although by the time we lost at everton the club had finally been sold to John henry with its 360m debt wiped out some were still worried.

Liverpool narrowly avoided administration but lay 19th in the league, although Torres scored in a 2-1 win over Blackburn doubts lingered over the clubs direction on field with Torres being isolated upfront on his own. The squad was weakened with the departures of benayoun, aquilani and Alonso before him due to the lack of money whilst replacements such as jovanovic, cole and konchesky didn’t inspire. Torres’s confidence and mood dawned, he sulked through games. He looked disinterested. Liverpool was in decline.

Early November we saw a glimpse of he of old as Torres fired home a wonderful double to down Chelsea at anfield. The following week though Liverpool’s miserable away form continued as they lost 3-1 to Newcastle with Torres missing a guilt edged chance with the game poised at 1-1. The gloom continued with defeats to the likes of Wolves and Blackburn. With the transfer window open Man city began moving again. However by this time Liverpool dispensed with Roy Hodgson, the hapless manager was gone before he could do any further damage with Liverpool lying in the lower half of the table and an Fa cup date with man united beckoning.

The club was given a huge lift when Kenny Dalglish came in as caretaker and it seemed he could get the best out of torres. He publicly promised it whilst torres promised to see out his contract. Despite losing 1-0 to united, there were signs we had improved, uniteds goal came from a dodgy penalty whilst the reds had to make do without their captain Steven Gerrard who was sent off in the first half. The improvement in service to torres showed at blackpool as he took just 3 mins to get on the scoresheet, although Liverpool ultimately lost. Torres was unlucky not to score in a 2-2draw with everton, hitting the post. He was then back to his tormenting best with 2 goals in a 3-0 win at wolves and had a major hand in the 1-0 win over Fulham. With him looking dangerous things were on the up. The dalglish feel good factor was having an effect whilst the new owners looked like spending money. Luis Suarez of Ajax signed in a 23m deal.

And then it happened, just as news of this broke, the worshipped, talented and loyal torres then handed in a transfer request. Worse still it was to push through a move to Chelsea. He had spat in the fact and stabbed us all in the back. I went to bed and choked on tears, imagine, a man of 28 doing that!

But thats how bad it felt, we could understand if it was real Madrid or Barcelona, maybe even an Italian team, we can see the club has been to hell but when it started to show signs of getting out of it by spending big he walked! Rumours of a 50m get  out clause was rife but that was the fee that eventually saw him move to Chelsea.  From hero worship that rivalled Dalglish, Fowler and Gerrard, the Spaniard had thrown it all away, i thought of the wonderful boxed shirt my girlfriend bought me when she could have spent it on something else. Something she thoughtfully picked out, my sister buying me torres 9 on the away strip, the torres calendar pics at home, the torres book where he repeatedly lauded the club and its fans and staff, and of course my grand nephew “little torres”.

To see him in the Chelsea shirt is painful, to hear him say hes moved to a big club and there is no level up now is just too much to bear.

The above is long, it has taken me a long long time to write this. But maybe the anger will clear youll see we did enjoy his time here, we did worship him and he restored faith to me in a lot of ways, i thought maybe just maybe loyalty was still in football and it didn’t have to be homegrown.

But Fernando torres over the last week has smashed that to pieces, he has stabbed the club in the back, aswell as its fans. Although i enjoyed every single one of his 80 + goals what he has done in the past week is unforgiveable.

Those memories are sullied and upon finishing this I want to be sick. All the promises and all of this now means nothing. Instead of the brilliance ive described you have left us with memories of your last season, whinging, lack of effort and lies! I want to say thanks but i cant. I don’t know how to finish this, but you did. So like everything you did in the last week Torres, youve ruined this too!

NOW FUCK OFF



 


« Last Edit: February 3, 2011, 11:05:19 PM by HELLRAZOR »
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Re: the story of El Ninny and Liverpool. why we loved you, why we hate you
« Reply #1 on: February 1, 2011, 09:34:09 PM »
I tolerated his decision until I heard those comments. We built is ego up so much that he thought he was better than us. Lets see if his ego can cope with the Stamford Bridge atmosphere. I can't wait for the day when he realises his mistake, I'll be there to laugh at him just like I did with Michael Owen.
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Re: the story of El Ninny and Liverpool. why we loved you, why we hate you
« Reply #2 on: February 1, 2011, 09:35:08 PM »
Lol @ El Ninny
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Re: the story of El Ninny and Liverpool. why we loved you, why we hate you
« Reply #3 on: February 1, 2011, 09:38:15 PM »
Can't believe it but his comments have helped me realise he just wasn't all that.  I'm over it now, great post btw, I don't think we need any more ft posts now tho, he is in the bin of history

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Re: the story of El Ninny and Liverpool. why we loved you, why we hate you
« Reply #4 on: February 1, 2011, 09:39:31 PM »
Can't believe it but his comments have helped me realise he just wasn't all that.  I'm over it now,

my sentiments exactly.
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Re: the story of El Ninny and Liverpool. why we loved you, why we hate you
« Reply #5 on: February 1, 2011, 09:40:28 PM »
Meh, I don't hate him. His time was up, and we got 50m to rebuild.

Let him go with dignity and honour.

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Re: the story of El Ninny and Liverpool. why we loved you, why we hate you
« Reply #6 on: February 1, 2011, 09:40:45 PM »
Can't be arsed to read all that about someone who doesnt play for us.

Sorry, just want to look forwards.
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Re: the story of El Ninny and Liverpool. why we loved you, why we hate you
« Reply #7 on: February 1, 2011, 09:41:06 PM »
Fernando Torres

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Re: the story of El Ninny and Liverpool. why we loved you, why we hate you
« Reply #8 on: February 1, 2011, 09:41:44 PM »
I miss Torres..

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Re: the story of El Ninny and Liverpool. why we loved you, why we hate you
« Reply #9 on: February 1, 2011, 09:42:27 PM »
Meh, I don't hate him. His time was up, and we got 50m to rebuild.

Let him go with dignity and honour.

You know - his brother isn't all that happy he left ! :wave

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Re: the story of El Ninny and Liverpool. why we loved you, why we hate you
« Reply #10 on: February 1, 2011, 09:47:42 PM »
He's a traitorous c*nt.

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Re: the story of El Ninny and Liverpool. why we loved you, why we hate you
« Reply #11 on: February 1, 2011, 09:47:47 PM »
Can't be arsed to waste the energy. He was great for us for 2 years, and very average and injured since. 50m is great business and the club is bigger than the player, we will go on.

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Re: the story of El Ninny and Liverpool. why we loved you, why we hate you
« Reply #12 on: February 1, 2011, 09:48:20 PM »
You know - his brother isn't all that happy he left ! :wave

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Re: the story of El Ninny and Liverpool. why we loved you, why we hate you
« Reply #13 on: February 1, 2011, 09:50:25 PM »
But maybe the anger will clear youll see we did enjoy his time here, we did worship him and he restored faith to me in a lot of ways, i thought maybe just maybe loyalty was still in football and it didn’t have to be homegrown.

Reina. Have faith :). Good piece.

Google trans (not the best, but tis ok):

Now that my brother in a medical examination by one of the best teams of today, I should feel happy and content (I am!) But I have mixed feelings by the change of club. I know it's good for Fer and is a big jump on a sporting level. It was what everyone did, because he felt depressed, helpless being in a club more and more similar to Atleti economic problems and problems with management. Liverpool also take heart, as Atleti. Two of the biggest teams in the world and all I feel towards them is gratitude for all you have given over the years.

Even now people, or part of it, hate it, (I think over time we want to return), the reasons for change are not cheap (and went to Liverpool losing money), are sports. Its objective is to one day become the best player in the world and I think that can be achieved only if it is surrounded by the best.

Feelings of love and hate. Fer mixed feelings now that is about to sign his new contract with a new club. I love my family and I love the place where I am and that I belonged. Atletico love, I love Liverpool, and from now on, I love the Chelsea.

I want to fulfill the dreams of my child, that little that was following me everywhere little boy, who at no time have I stopped believing that came to be the Number One already is in our hearts.

Love, your brother.

Now and forever: I de Fer.
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Re: the story of El Ninny and Liverpool. why we loved you, why we hate you
« Reply #14 on: February 1, 2011, 09:51:36 PM »
cheers for replies ppl. was just something i had to do, sunday maybe monday ill move on.

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Re: the story of El Ninny and Liverpool. why we loved you, why we hate you
« Reply #15 on: February 1, 2011, 09:52:22 PM »
Did not read the entire lengthy OP: from length alone it SEEMS obsessive!

Nando  leaving is like being chucked:  harder to take when you have been dumped for some ugly bastard with a smaller cock: but hey we'll get over it!

Peace on ya all now lets move on.

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Re: the story of El Ninny and Liverpool. why we loved you, why we hate you
« Reply #16 on: February 1, 2011, 09:53:45 PM »
What if he scores against against us (likely will, they always do) but DOESNT celebrate? Will that make up somewhat?
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« Reply #17 on: February 1, 2011, 09:54:02 PM »
Good post mate and some nice thoughts in there. Also fair minded recapture of his talents.
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Re: the story of El Ninny and Liverpool. why we loved you, why we hate you
« Reply #18 on: February 1, 2011, 09:54:06 PM »
Did not read the entire lengthy OP: from length alone it SEEMS obsessive!

Why not? Why is it obsessive?  ::)

Personally, I was fuming at the way he handled it before he made any comments. Now I've heard what he's had to say, looks like a LOT of us were wrong about the lad and how great we thought he was and how much we thought he loved us. He didn't. And no matter what he says, he simply won't understand that saying shit like 'Now I've got the chance to play for a big club' is a twattish thing to say and do.

Really fucked up his time here by what he's done and said.

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Re: the story of El Ninny and Liverpool. why we loved you, why we hate you
« Reply #19 on: February 1, 2011, 09:55:00 PM »

Anyone care to translate that for us plebs?




Basically he has mixed emotions about Fernando leaving for Chelsea. On one hand he thinks it's the right move footballing wise but on the other he's saddened that Fernando has had to leave Liverpool just like he did Atletico.
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« Reply #20 on: February 1, 2011, 09:59:40 PM »
I loved Nando, his talking on and off the pitch,  wish him well (except for sunday) but like modern romance when the going got tough he facked off. His timing and club choice blah blah... Footballers..not what they used to be...or maybe it was always thus. I'd pretty much given up on football but Kenny's return has got me soooooo buzzed.
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Re: the story of El Ninny and Liverpool. why we loved you, why we hate you
« Reply #21 on: February 1, 2011, 10:03:35 PM »
Click Sport Comment - Fernando Torres already regrets Liverpool FC exit
by Word Thief. Published Tue 01 Feb 2011 15:46, Last updated: 2011-02-01
 

Last night brought about the realisation that will haunt Fernando Torres for the rest of his career.

Minutes after breaking the British transfer record, he sat stonefaced in front of an in-house camera crew and expressed his delight at finally securing a move to Chelsea.

But as he waxed lyrical about his lucrative switch, the look of dread in his eyes that accompanied his monotone spiel suggested otherwise.

Somewhere amidst £50million worth of footballer sat a little boy lost from Fuenlabrada.

In that brief moment when it dawned on him that he had sold out on those core beliefs he had harboured growing up in the Madrid suburb, 'The Kid' truly lived up to his nickname.

It will live long in his memory as well as in those of the Liverpool supporters who feel betrayed by his deadline day defection to Stamford Bridge.

Torres went on record last summer, following his return from the World Cup, to dismiss fears that he was set to leave by insisting his commitment to Liverpool was no different to that on the day he arrived. Throughout the recording, his eyes beamed and so did his smile.

By comparison, his West London screen debut was morose and the attempted sideswipe at his former employers was another example of the child within trying to convince himself he had played no part in any wrongdoing.

Throughout his three-and-a-half-year stay at Liverpool, fans were hoodwinked by Torres's countless sound bites about how he was proud to play for a 'trabajador' - a humble, hard-working club in Spanish - and live in a city with an equally significant history.

But his decision to switch to a club whose general ethos is the complete opposite has shattered illusions within the fan base that he was 'one of them'. He was anything but.

It was perhaps testiment to the powers of persuasion 'Brand Torres' - the collective term used to describe the striker and his representatives Bahia Internacional in some private quarters - held over supporters to the point that every word he uttered was perceived as gospel.

In isolation, incidents such as the armband presented to him by friends, with the words 'We'll Never Walk Alone', just months before joining Liverpool appeared an innocent coincidence.

But the relentless PR offensive undertaken by Torres and Bahia has alerted Kopites to his possible motives and view this and other instances in an understandably cynical light.

Had he quit Anfield in the summer, when fears of administration loomed large under George Gillett and Tom Hicks' reign, his move would have been understood.

Engineering a move at the beginning of the transfer window as Roy Hodgson's short-lived tenure as manager was drawing to a close, too, would have been met with disappointment but also a begrudging acceptance given Liverpool's fortunes this season.

But to leave a club under the management of Kenny Dalglish, who has united all factions, and owners who are already backing up their pledge to make Liverpool great again with actions, speaks more about a player who had mentally checked out a very long time ago.

Like Michael Owen before him, Torres left Liverpool in a bid to collect silverware, but Steven Gerrard, who himself twice turned down Chelsea, put it best when he said that lifting trophies with the club meant "a lot more than winning seven or eight trophies somewhere else."

Owen's lasting legacy was tarnished by his actions and Torres has followed his predecessor in the Anfield front line down this particularly murky path. Liverpool had the last laugh and if recent history is a trustworthy benchmark, they will do so again.

Both had the potential to become eternal legends at Anfield but instead chose to pursue the gravy train in the hope of a quick fix. Owen found out this to his cost and in time Torres will too. The little boy from Fuenlabrada trapped within already knows this.

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Re: the story of El Ninny and Liverpool. why we loved you, why we hate you
« Reply #22 on: February 1, 2011, 10:03:42 PM »
The thing I loved most about Torres was quite difficult to describe; the little bouncy, high-stepping, controlled jog he'd do before bursting (apparently instantly) into full speed. It always reminded of a showjumping horse preparing to take a fence. Not seen it for about 18 months, to be honest.
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Re: the story of El Ninny and Liverpool. why we loved you, why we hate you
« Reply #23 on: February 1, 2011, 10:05:46 PM »
Can I just say how much I love the auto corrects on this site? :D
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« Reply #24 on: February 1, 2011, 10:07:13 PM »
The little boy from Fuenlabrada trapped within already knows this.

Posted something along these lines last night. I do have sympathy for the mental state of our ex no. 9. I won't wish him luck at Chelsea, but I do hope he finds a place to enjoy football again before the end of his career, else I fear he could be retired burned out and a mental shell before he's 30.
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« Reply #25 on: February 1, 2011, 10:07:14 PM »
Can I just say how much I love the auto corrects on this site? :D
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Re: the story of El Ninny and Liverpool. why we loved you, why we hate you
« Reply #26 on: February 1, 2011, 10:07:52 PM »
I wish we would stop talking about the judas and instead expend our energy talking about the two major players we've signed. The guy doesn't deserve us discussing him after some of the recent comments - if I could wipe my memories of him I would.

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« Reply #27 on: February 1, 2011, 10:08:57 PM »
Top class footballer and with his comments today not a million miles away from Owens parting shots. We know what he really thought of us, a small club, a stepping stone. Boy has this guys ego grown over the past few years.

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« Reply #28 on: February 1, 2011, 10:09:02 PM »
I think the banner that the Barcelona fans has when Luis Figo returned 'We hate you so much, because we loved you so much' is really fitting for how, I at least felt about this whole situation.  :)

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Re: the story of El Ninny and Liverpool. why we loved you, why we hate you
« Reply #29 on: February 1, 2011, 10:09:57 PM »
His actions have caused me to avoid the news all week. In another some strange way his transfer request  made me feel like I used on a morning when I've woken up after a few too many bevy's, hoping that I hadn't done something wrong the night before.

Have to say though, that it does feckin' hurt because he was such a great player for us. But his betrayal felt far more personal than Owen or Macca's did. 
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Re: the story of El Ninny and Liverpool. why we loved you, why we hate you
« Reply #30 on: February 1, 2011, 10:10:52 PM »
I was there at Anfield with my boy - it was his birthday. We were sat near the Annie Road end close to the Chelsea fans and I watched take that ball from Gerrard and score that goal - what a player we had. We gave him status rarely bestowed upon our players. He seemed to have already earned our trust, respect and adulation before even kicking a ball for us......and then he went and fucking blew it by asking for a move to Chelsea. I listened to his comments after signing and I have no doubt that they were written by a PR staffer who wanted to a) instantly endear him to his new fans and b) stick the knife into his old fans and distance him from his old life.

I don't wish him ill but neither do I wish him luck - he has gone and soon will be forgotten.
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Re: the story of El Ninny and Liverpool. why we loved you, why we hate you
« Reply #31 on: February 1, 2011, 10:13:28 PM »
My auld fella said to me a couple of years ago that the thing that sets Torres apart is that he is a great player but is so humble. His humility was remarkable for the ability he had. His smile when he scored was genuine, schoolkid like and he didn't think he was better than anyone. He used to celebrate with the fans, something which became a notable change in the last 6 months, perhaps longer.

Sadly, the boy lost that. He became a petulant little sod, perhaps looking at Ronaldo when he was at the Mancs or more likely, as a result of success with the national side. He started to believe his own hype, nothing wrong with that when kept under control. Looking on at his Spanish team mates winning everything at their clubs and he felt he had a divine right to success at club level too, in the end.

The Torres we signed was a ferocious player. The thing that set him apart was at first, he didn't realise how good he was. In the end, he realised how good he was and started to act like a right tool. The celebrations when he scored changed, the smile faded and it became more of a 'look at me' thing . He lost that humility amidst the glory of Spain, the deserved credit he got for his goals and a belief that he was better than the club he was at. A foolish mistake that time will put right in the end, I am certain.

We're better off without him. That arrogance is not what we need. We don't need a sulky and petualant child who couldn't be arsed to put a proper shift in, nor do we need someone that believes success is a right. It isn't, it's earned and even if he lifts a couple of pots at Chelsea, that success will not be the same.

Good riddance.

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« Reply #32 on: February 1, 2011, 10:15:20 PM »
I still feel cheated and I still don't rate him at all as a man. However, got a different aspect to the case this afternoon. Maybe he took the definite decision already in the summer, but didn't want his transfer fee to be absorbed by G/H's bancruptcy. Instead he waited until the new owners had settled and when them seemed alright, he submitted his transfer request - confident that the money would be injected into the transfer market and he wouldn't just leave a black hole behind him.

Just a thought, but after reading his first interviews in Chelsea I really doubt that he would care about us at all.
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Re: the story of El Ninny and Liverpool. why we loved you, why we hate you
« Reply #33 on: February 1, 2011, 10:15:31 PM »
cheers for replies ppl. was just something i had to do, sunday maybe monday ill move on.
Maybe monday! The minute el ninny gets the ball on sunday in a blue shirt and tries to score against us is wen ya will forget about how much ya loved him
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Re: the story of El Ninny and Liverpool. why we loved you, why we hate you
« Reply #34 on: February 1, 2011, 10:15:57 PM »
It's long so ill read this later but my very quick skimming of it saw me read only two parts, the first sentence and last:

"July 2007 seemed like a long time ago" and the last "NOW FUCK OFF".

Made me chuckle anyway. ;D

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« Reply #35 on: February 1, 2011, 10:16:25 PM »
I hope you feel a bit better getting that off your chest. It was good, though I did read it with a fair amount of indifference whereas previously a piece such as the one you have written about Torres, or any other player for that matter, would have filled me with pride.

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« Reply #36 on: February 1, 2011, 10:16:49 PM »
Thanks for the read, enjoyed it  :thumbup

I put this on the official forum but they took it down.

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We hate you so much, because we loved you so much.

I have no problem with you leaving Liverpool at all, just a massive problem with you leaving after 2 weeks prior saying how you were "professional" and "always fulfill my deals". Maybe you had issues with the clubs medical staff and how they handled your injury, maybe you had issues with Rafa leaving and his inferior replacement and maybe you were frustrated that a player of your ability has never won a domestic trophy. Fine, but despite all this we still cheered your name, bought your shirts and despite your shit, spoilt-child attitude this past 6 months, we never spoke ill of you.

You always came across as a decent, respectful working class human. I knew you would leave Liverpool, just never imagined you would do so in such a disrespectful manner. All this crap about how you love the city, will be proud if your daughter grows up with a scouse accent and how you could never play for another club was all a fucking lie! You could so easily have left Liverpool a legend, by speaking to the fans, being honest about your ambitions to win trophies (which again we would have supported you on) and at least made it look like you cared.

Instead you have proven yourself to be nothing more than a selfish cowardly piece of shit! I have your books on my shelf, your custom el nino shirt on my wall and your signed picture framed in my living room. Not that you give a shit but I had to make financial plans to pay for these things. You have decided to put your selfish needs to earn £175,000 a week over those of 42,000 people who were probably prepared to skip a meal to pay for a ticket to watch you play.

After 24hours to fully reflect on how I feel about this, I can honestly say, from the bottom of my heart.....

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Re: the story of El Ninny and Liverpool. why we loved you, why we hate you
« Reply #37 on: February 1, 2011, 10:21:03 PM »
my 10 year old son took the move badly,his first game was the 6-0 Derby County win,and he idolised El Ninny.
Trying to explain why he left,not easy.
Far cry from my childhood heros,the likes of Emlyn Hughes played 6 years before he won his first trophy for Liverpool,alright not a superstar but he gave 100% in every game.
Thats what  galls me,18 months of sulking and the fans never turned on him once,ad I thought he would stick by us too good luck at the plastics lad.
 
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« Reply #38 on: February 1, 2011, 10:21:29 PM »
I hate him, I realy hope that he will play the rest of his life like the last season.
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« Reply #39 on: February 1, 2011, 10:24:03 PM »
Why not? Why is it obsessive?  ::)

Personally, I was fuming at the way he handled it before he made any comments. Now I've heard what he's had to say, looks like a LOT of us were wrong about the lad and how great we thought he was and how much we thought he loved us. He didn't. And no matter what he says, he simply won't understand that saying shit like 'Now I've got the chance to play for a big club' is a twattish thing to say and do.

Really fucked up his time here by what he's done and said.



Agreed.  Could have just as easily have said that he left us with a heavy heart but felt that his career needed revitalising or something like that.  The big club thing was such a twatty thing to say.  Shame on you Nando and I don't even think it could be down to his poor English.