Author Topic: John W Henry (Read 109778 times)

was wondering about shanklyboy meetin them too (RIP)

i remember reading it and i just thought even little things were fascinating

like henry modestly bringing tea and coffee to a table rather than insisting on waiters

Eternalsungod · « **Reply #1046 on:** May 5, 2011, 04:15:44 PM »

Quote from: royhendo on May 5, 2011, 03:37:57 PM

Hopefully we're all hard and gnarly enough to rekkanize this for what it is. It's nice to see them do it, cos it's cute. But at the end of the day, it's PR.

I find myself liking Larry Lucchino though. Not sure why. I'd like to understand what he brings to the Liverpudlian party.

Of course, but I do like the way they do PR. Better than, lets say, a staged "look at me at my home with my huge Liverpool scarf supporting the club againts Everton with tv cameras all around". For example.

More "I serve you" than "Look at ME".

SmithdownAndy · « **Reply #1047 on:** May 5, 2011, 04:29:29 PM »

Quote from: Chakan on May 5, 2011, 04:13:20 PM

It was VDM and Shanklyboy.

You forgot me

penwhen · « **Reply #1048 on:** May 5, 2011, 04:31:51 PM »

Quote from: royhendo on May 5, 2011, 03:37:57 PM

I find myself liking Larry Lucchino though. Not sure why. I'd like to understand what he brings to the Liverpudlian party.

Really? Mixed feelings personally. As President/CEO of the Baltimore Orioles, he did get the state of Maryland to pay for an absolutely gorgeous stadium, Oriole Park at Camden Yards. But the ownership group he was part of also bankrupted the team, leading to ownership by the universally hated Peter Angelos. And if I recall correctly, San Diego Padres fans don't have much good to say, either.

Chakan · « **Reply #1049 on:** May 5, 2011, 04:40:46 PM »

Quote from: SmithdownAndy on May 5, 2011, 04:29:29 PM

You forgot me

sorry

hitman89762000 · « **Reply #1050 on:** May 5, 2011, 04:41:14 PM »

Quote from: SmithdownAndy on May 5, 2011, 04:29:29 PM

You forgot me

chance would be a fine thing mr smithdown!

SmithdownAndy · « **Reply #1051 on:** May 5, 2011, 04:44:25 PM »

Quote from: Chakan on May 5, 2011, 04:40:46 PM

sorry

Forgiven mate

Quote from: hitman89762000 on May 5, 2011, 04:41:14 PM

chance would be a fine thing mr smithdown!

Well it's a day I wont forget in a hurry for sure, who knows I might go and get his coffee when I get to Boston

Chakan · « **Reply #1052 on:** May 5, 2011, 04:46:03 PM »

Quote from: SmithdownAndy on May 5, 2011, 04:44:25 PM

Forgiven mate ;DWell it's a day I wont forget in a hurry for sure, who knows I might go and get his coffee when I get to Boston

I knew there was a 3rd I just couldn't decide who it was, was stuck between 3. So didn't want to commit myself.

SmithdownAndy · « **Reply #1053 on:** May 5, 2011, 04:48:18 PM »

Quote from: Chakan on May 5, 2011, 04:46:03 PM

I knew there was a 3rd I just couldn't decide who it was, was stuck between 3. So didn't want to commit myself.

Lucky you

royhendo · « **Reply #1054 on:** May 5, 2011, 04:48:22 PM »

Quote from: penwhen on May 5, 2011, 04:31:51 PM

Really? Mixed feelings personally. As President/CEO of the Baltimore Orioles, he did get the state of Maryland to pay for an absolutely gorgeous stadium, Oriole Park at Camden Yards. But the ownership group he was part of also bankrupted the team, leading to ownership by the universally hated Peter Angelos. And if I recall correctly, San Diego Padres fans don't have much good to say, either.

Just shows you eh? PR.

Chakan · « **Reply #1055 on:** May 5, 2011, 04:48:49 PM »

Quote from: SmithdownAndy on May 5, 2011, 04:48:18 PM

Lucky you

royhendo · « **Reply #1056 on:** May 5, 2011, 04:50:01 PM »

God bless Paul Tomkins and all the rest of 'em boys, but I'm surprised people don't realise it was wur very own lads who met him first. Andy, Kev and Ray.

SmithdownAndy · « **Reply #1057 on:** May 5, 2011, 04:51:35 PM »

Quote from: royhendo on May 5, 2011, 04:50:01 PM

God bless Paul Tomkins and all the rest of 'em boys, but I'm surprised people don't realise it was wur very own lads who met him first. Andy, Kev and Ray.

We sure did mate he knew to come to the best first eh

Chakan · « **Reply #1058 on:** May 5, 2011, 04:51:50 PM »

Quote from: SmithdownAndy on May 5, 2011, 04:51:35 PM

We sure did mate he knew to come to the best first eh

Knows where the power lies

hitman89762000 · « **Reply #1059 on:** May 5, 2011, 04:55:10 PM »

Quote from: SmithdownAndy on May 5, 2011, 04:51:35 PM

We sure did mate he knew to come to the best first eh

thats impossible because i wasnt there!

SmithdownAndy · « **Reply #1060 on:** May 5, 2011, 05:00:43 PM »

Quote from: Chakan on May 5, 2011, 04:51:50 PM

Knows where the power lies

Nah we just promised him we wouldn't dip his wallet

Chakan · « **Reply #1061 on:** May 5, 2011, 05:03:31 PM »

Quote from: SmithdownAndy on May 5, 2011, 05:00:43 PM

Nah we just promised him we wouldn't dip his wallet

Strummer77 · « **Reply #1062 on:** May 5, 2011, 06:06:40 PM »

Quote from: HELLRAZOR on May 5, 2011, 04:07:36 PM

who was it that met henry one morning for breakfast shortly after he took over

nice story

Yeah that's what I mean. We can dismiss everything as PR, but it doesn't necessarily mean it's not a good gesture too.

Whatever it is, I like their conduct and am pleased they are our owners.

MonkeysOnIce · « **Reply #1063 on:** May 5, 2011, 06:26:03 PM »

The reason they were down there serving coffee and hot chocolate was because it was a rain delayed game that went deep into Extra Innings. The game was going well but then it started raining, and it was an extremely long delay.

Sure, in part it is about PR, but it is not like it was something they scheduled and decided to do a while ago. They served free coffee and hot chocolate to the most loyal fans, who sat through a 2 hour rain delay, and then deep into the extra innings. We have classy owners. Let's not tear that down.

No666 · « **Reply #1064 on:** May 5, 2011, 06:43:20 PM »

Quote from: SmithdownAndy on May 5, 2011, 04:29:29 PM

You forgot me

I was reading the thread thinking, 'they forgot our Andy!'

They are good at the PR, aren't they? Which is another way of saying, they keep an eye on what the paying customers think. No bad thing. I suspect there is a heart at the centre of it which we could relate to. Unlike Hicks - who was just a bag of adipose tissue.

neel2108 · « **Reply #1065 on:** May 5, 2011, 06:46:26 PM »

Quote from: MonkeysOnIce on May 5, 2011, 06:26:03 PM

The reason they were down there serving coffee and hot chocolate was because it was a rain delayed game that went deep into Extra Innings. The game was going well but then it started raining, and it was an extremely long delay.

Sure, in part it is about PR, but it is not like it was something they scheduled and decided to do a while ago. They served free coffee and hot chocolate to the most loyal fans, who sat through a 2 hour rain delay, and then deep into the extra innings. We have classy owners. Let's not tear that down.

Exactly, no need to look for the negatives in it at all. Very nice gesture from them, shows appreciation and what we've all thought, that these owners are different from the previous, and their track record thus far proves it.

bailey90 · « **Reply #1066 on:** May 5, 2011, 06:57:07 PM »

Linda could give birth to the second coming of Jesus and people would still say it was just a PR stunt

DangerScouse · « **Reply #1067 on:** May 5, 2011, 07:00:01 PM »

Quote from: bailey90 on May 5, 2011, 06:57:07 PM

Linda could give birth to the second coming of Jesus and people would still say it was just a PR stunt

Exactly, she could have genuine feelings for our Robbie!

TopChed · « **Reply #1068 on:** May 5, 2011, 07:02:54 PM »

Quote from: bailey90 on May 5, 2011, 06:57:07 PM

Linda could give birth to the second coming of Jesus and people would still say it was just a PR stunt

Lol no kidding. At least the skeptics are dedicated.

BostonScouse · « **Reply #1069 on:** May 5, 2011, 07:18:55 PM »

PR or not, I know plenty of people who have had random interactions with Henry over the years when the cameras aren't in sight and he's a genuinely nice and friendly guy. He also treats service industry people and employees very well which I think is often a good measure of character.

royhendo · « **Reply #1070 on:** May 6, 2011, 07:39:32 AM »

Yeah, and that's great. Andy wrote about the meeting - we all felt encouraged and hopeful.

But we should never forget the collective strength we gained, and we should never give unqualified support to our owners again. Respect and even admiration, yes. Affection? Maybe. But never 100% unqualified support.

Second coming of Jesus you say? Meh.

HELLRAZOR · « **Reply #1071 on:** May 6, 2011, 09:18:44 AM »

Quote from: royhendo on May 6, 2011, 07:39:32 AM

Yeah, and that's great. Andy wrote about the meeting - we all felt encouraged and hopeful.

But we should never forget the collective strength we gained, and we should never give unqualified support to our owners again. Respect and even admiration, yes. Affection? Maybe. But never 100% unqualified support.

Second coming of Jesus you say? Meh.

i think thats one thing we have to learn the most from the cowboys reign

i know for the first six months i was completely taken in by everything they said

was in good company if i may say so

nocturnalvin · « **Reply #1072 on:** May 6, 2011, 09:27:49 AM »

Quote from: royhendo on May 5, 2011, 04:50:01 PM

God bless Paul Tomkins and all the rest of 'em boys, but I'm surprised people don't realise it was wur very own lads who met him first. Andy, Kev and Ray.

I believe JH was pretty candid about one or two issues as well, especially player contracts .

Strummer77 · « **Reply #1073 on:** May 6, 2011, 10:46:45 AM »

Quote from: HELLRAZOR on May 6, 2011, 09:18:44 AM

i think thats one thing we have to learn the most from the cowboys reign

i know for the first six months i was completely taken in by everything they said

was in good company if i may say so

Oh very good company. These do seem different, partly because Kenny seems to like them. Rafa hated G&H fairly quickly (his presser after the CL final was the first hint of trouble). We'll see how things pan out, this summer might prove a thing or two.

HELLRAZOR · « **Reply #1074 on:** May 6, 2011, 10:51:01 AM »

Quote from: Strummer77 on May 6, 2011, 10:46:45 AM

Oh very good company. These do seem different, partly because Kenny seems to like them. Rafa hated G&H fairly quickly (his presser after the CL final was the first hint of trouble). We'll see how things pan out, this summer might prove a thing or two.

athens was the start of it looking back

alarm bells went off with me when hicks told rafa to concentrate on coaching. up to then i was happy with the outlay on the likes of torres and babel plus the new stadium plans. was all downhill from then on.

im happy with nesv so far. this summer it will be nice to hopefully spend money for once

new-red · « **Reply #1075 on:** May 6, 2011, 12:29:24 PM »

Quote from: royhendo on May 6, 2011, 07:39:32 AM

Yeah, and that's great. Andy wrote about the meeting - we all felt encouraged and hopeful.

But we should never forget the collective strength we gained, and we should never give unqualified support to our owners again. Respect and even admiration, yes. Affection? Maybe. But never 100% unqualified support.

Second coming of Jesus you say? Meh.

haven't we all learned that from G&H. If there is any good that came from G&H it is that we will NEVER EVER let our guard down again.

Had it have gone far enough we could have lost our club.

These owners will never receive our unconditional support. It will always be conditional because we know now that it has to be. Every decision will be questioned from here on out and if they perform their roles like they have in the past then we will be very supportive and appreciative.

I trust them at this point in time because they have made several good decisions: appointing Kenny, signing Suarez, signing carroll, selling torres, shirt deal.

However, this summer is absolutely huge in the future of this club and one they have to get right. They have said there will be investment and we all really want to believe them but I suspect every one will continue to wait with baited breath for July 1st.

If they perform then they will be lauded and praised, deservedly, but that will only be temporary and rightly so.

mactifosi · « **Reply #1076 on:** May 6, 2011, 12:55:19 PM »

They carry themselves better than H+G, certainly they have been clever in using the Liverpool Way to conduct their business privately.
This has pros and cons to be honest, if there are any red flags will we see them in time to react?

The SOS proposal for a fan share being ignored while LeBron James got a share is a question mark.
But we shall wait and see, GG also had a great record in Montreal before he infected us.

new-red · « **Reply #1077 on:** May 6, 2011, 01:08:33 PM »

Quote from: mactifosi on May 6, 2011, 12:55:19 PM

They carry themselves better than H+G, certainly they have been clever in using the Liverpool Way to conduct their business privately.
This has pros and cons to be honest, if there are any red flags will we see them in time to react?

The SOS proposal for a fan share being ignored while LeBron James got a share is a question mark.
But we shall wait and see, GG also had a great record in Montreal before he infected us.

it is good point but then we have to hope we have a manager like Rafa who won't let shit slide down hill before the fans know. Kenny is definitely a man who will look after us so at least we have a red on the inside.

ollick · « **Reply #1078 on:** May 6, 2011, 01:15:00 PM »

Quote from: mactifosi on May 6, 2011, 12:55:19 PM

The SOS proposal for a fan share being ignored while LeBron James got a share is a question mark.
But we shall wait and see, GG also had a great record in Montreal before he infected us.

It wasn't an SOS proposal as far as I am aware, those linked to SOS have denied it, though fan ownership is their ultimate goal.

Anyway, the proposal (circa £30mil for 10%, no profit for FSG) was never, ever going to be taken seriously.

Bulltii · « **Reply #1079 on:** May 6, 2011, 01:35:36 PM »

Quote from: ollick on May 6, 2011, 01:15:00 PM

It wasn't an SOS proposal as far as I am aware, those linked to SOS have denied it, though fan ownership is their ultimate goal.

Anyway, the proposal (circa £30mil for 10%, no profit for FSG) was never, ever going to be taken seriously.

To me, this is actually a positive. It shows that they are there to make business decisions, not cave to fan pressure. But as this post has pointed out, the details are very fuzzy.

On the whole, I trust the new owners. So far they have made excellent business decisions, they have been slow and deliberate over every major decision. They have almost perfect rhetoric for the clubs direction, and the choices they've made seem to echo that. It's something I say a lot, but I feel the new owners are looking to imitate barcalona. A single philosophy of football that unites the club at every level. A heavy reliance on youth players. I believe the appointment of Comolli and the creation of his role were excellent choices: a director of football can ensure that the players brought in still suit the club's philosophy.