Author Topic: Torres Bid Discussion - Post Twitter at your own risk (Read 64472 times)

Alan_X · « **Reply #1080 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:29:42 PM »

Quote from: KopnFresh on January 28, 2011, 01:23:22 PM

My gut tells me its a coup by the bookies.

A while back when Owen signed for Utd, the bookies lost a lot of money. They responded with the whole Ribery to Liverpool transfer story. A lot of people fell for that crap. Now I fear the same is happening here.

If you look on the Skysports Transfer Centre thing on their website, you can see a lot of posts involving Torres also mention his odds of moving. The odds have shifted through out the day in a pretty classic style to draw people in. "Look guys the odds are dropping so quickly, I better bet now while the odds are still decent..."

Skysports news is tied in with Skybet, its all the same thing. If skybet can make money by using skysports news as a resource then they will definitely do it. As for the paper articles, someone tell me where they got their source from that said Torres wants to leave. If you come up with Skysports as the source its the nail in the coffin for me.

I could be wrong, but when the media start mentioning betting odds its a red flag.

oh for fucks sake...

Something Else · « **Reply #1081 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:29:56 PM »

Quote from: Franky on January 28, 2011, 01:11:33 PM

maybe I'm trying to see the situation from a different angle, instead of abusing Ballague and Chelsea for wanting Torres.

Maybe Torres is fed up with waiting for people to put their money where their mouth is.

You must be in a permanantly depressed state with regard to LFC

I bet when we won the European Cup in Istanbul you complained that it was only won on penalties and that we conceeded three in one half didnt you?

JasbinderX · « **Reply #1082 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:30:41 PM »

Quote from: Mr Rossi on January 28, 2011, 01:21:12 PM

You've got to remember what the owners said though. They have said on a number of occasions that they might not be able to get the player that they want for the right price in january and that we may not sign anyone till the summer.

Now I agree the squad needs strengthening, but it has to be with the right quality players. We can no longer afford to panick buy like we have done in the past. So if those players aren't available in january the current player and fans alike are just goin to have to sit back and be patient.

Who says we'll get the right price in the Summer?

redannie · « **Reply #1083 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:30:43 PM »

Journo on 5live just commented that teams and strategies are built around players of Torres' calibre therefore a January move could be counter productive in disrupting the season's preparation up to now. He reckons that Chelsea are just testing the water for a Summer move. Sounds feasible to me. Hopefully by then we are in a much stronger position to persuade Nando to stick with us and the owners to stand firm in not selling him.

Alan_X · « **Reply #1084 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:30:52 PM »

Quote from: Franky on January 28, 2011, 01:24:13 PM

I judge them from what they DO, not what they say. They haven't done anything yet. I will not glorify them for NO reason, like many people do.

Who's "glorifying" them.

foreveragnome · « **Reply #1085 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:30:56 PM »

Quote from: Franky on January 28, 2011, 01:24:13 PM

I judge them from what they DO, not what they say. They haven't done anything yet. I will not glorify them for NO reason, like many people do.

Yet you're more than willing to chastise them?

Fucking hell, you're getting really boring now.

NineTails20 · « **Reply #1086 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:31:25 PM »

danroan Dan Roan
Ancelotti: "Drogba can play with anyone". "including Torres?" "yes".

It's the rumour and uncertainty that's the killer. Either come straight out and say;"I'm off", or "I'm staying". Otherwise we'll just end up bitching and whining on forums. And Ancelotti can go get fucked just for the record.

robbie96 · « **Reply #1087 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:31:38 PM »

Quote from: Tepid water on January 28, 2011, 01:20:36 PM

There is a problem with torres though.

In the summer he only has 2 years on his contract.

After that point his value will start to decrease a lot.

If he doesn't sign a new contract in the summer, economically we may have to sell even if it makes no footballing sense and we dont need the money.

My feeling is that they are softening us up for the summer.

You mean you think our new owners would be gaging the level of panic/frustration/apathy/anger from the LFC supporters regarding Torres sale ....Diabolical that !

NandoNando · « **Reply #1088 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:31:57 PM »

Quote from: Alan_F on January 28, 2011, 01:26:37 PM

No, you started a thread on a topic which could have been discussed here:

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=260570.msg7142470#msg7142470

Well the warning I got was that I called an opposition team a bad word of some kind. Which was utterly false.

cheesemason · « **Reply #1089 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:32:03 PM »

Quote from: NineTails20 on January 28, 2011, 01:31:25 PM

danroan Dan Roan
Ancelotti: "Drogba can play with anyone". "including Torres?" "yes".

It's the rumour and uncertainty that's the killer. Either come straight out and say;"I'm off", or "I'm staying". Otherwise we'll just end up bitching and whining on forums. And Ancelotti can go get fucked just for the record.

Only a couple of weeks ago he said he was going nowhere

Does he have to repeat this every cfew weeks?

Something Else · « **Reply #1090 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:32:09 PM »

Quote from: NineTails20 on January 28, 2011, 01:31:25 PM

danroan Dan Roan
Ancelotti: "Drogba can play with anyone". "including Torres?" "yes".

It's the rumour and uncertainty that's the killer. Either come straight out and say;"I'm off", or "I'm staying". Otherwise we'll just end up bitching and whining on forums. And Ancelotti can go get fucked just for the record.

He said on the 9th he is staying, until he says different he is staying. No need for him to pander to a pathetic rumour from SSN with a denial.

Hibsred · « **Reply #1091 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:32:20 PM »

Quote from: Alan_F on January 28, 2011, 01:29:42 PM

oh for fucks sake...

A coup by the bookies?

Liverpool have confirmed they've rejected a bid from Chelsea - at what point were the bookies involved?

Sheik_Yerbouti · « **Reply #1092 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:32:23 PM »

I refuse to believe Torres would make a fuss about this now. He seems like a clever lad, and im sure the club has told him no chance, and he'll need to wait until the summer to make his mind up about his future. The timing is so terribly wrong now.

revelationx · « **Reply #1093 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:32:32 PM »

Quote from: NineTails20 on January 28, 2011, 01:31:25 PM

danroan Dan Roan
Ancelotti: "Drogba can play with anyone". "including Torres?" "yes".

Sounds like he has forgotten Shevchenko. And Kezman.

Didi_ram · « **Reply #1094 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:32:34 PM »

It is worrying when things like this happen all of a sudden.Hopefully Torres wants to stay,but we cant be surprised if his head has been turned.The only way we can put an end to this is by signing a couple of players,and showing our intent.Fernando has been very patient.And I hope it stays that way.

Mr Rossi · « **Reply #1095 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:33:03 PM »

Quote from: Franky on January 28, 2011, 01:24:13 PM

I judge them from what they DO, not what they say. They haven't done anything yet. I will not glorify them for NO reason, like many people do.

No you just act like a spoilt brat.

"WHY HAVEN'T WE SIGNED ANY SUPER-DUPER STARS YET? WAH WAH WAH!!! WHY CANT WE HAVE OWNERS LIKE MAN CITY? BOO HOO HOO!!!"

The Red Dojo · « **Reply #1096 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:33:24 PM »

Quote from: Franky on January 28, 2011, 01:24:13 PM

I judge them from what they DO, not what they say. They haven't done anything yet. I will not glorify them for NO reason, like many people do.

I judged you from what you post and you really are nothing more than a wind up merchant of the highest order. Back in the box you go, I never should've let you out in the first place...

gerrardlfc · « **Reply #1097 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:33:32 PM »

Why haven't the club or Torres came out and said it's all rubbish? i think this might be true

Franky · « **Reply #1098 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:33:41 PM »

Quote from: Something Else on January 28, 2011, 01:29:56 PM

You must be in a permanantly depressed state with regard to LFC

I bet when we won the European Cup in Istanbul you complained that it was only won on penalties and that we conceeded three in one half didnt you?

No I didn't. I just don't like to listen to empty words. They haven't done anything. Zero.
I will be positive with them, when they actually do something positive.

Bob Loblaw · « **Reply #1099 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:34:37 PM »

I'd of taken administration over this non-spending by the owners. I mean, it's their first transfer window, it's January, and they haven't spent £60m already. They are useless.

Alan_X · « **Reply #1100 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:34:54 PM »

Quote from: NandoNando on January 28, 2011, 01:31:57 PM

Well the warning I got was that I called an opposition team a bad word of some kind. Which was utterly false.

This is what Gareth wrote:

Quote from: Gareth on January 28, 2011, 12:55:08 PM

Why not wait and see what happens before declaring how unhappy you are at unspecified news? Not as if transfers don't complete on the final day...

Little Louie · « **Reply #1101 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:35:04 PM »

In this age of super-agents and the like, does anyone honestly think that a club puts in a bid before firstly sounding out whether the player might be interested or not?

rob1408 · « **Reply #1102 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:35:11 PM »

Quote from: Franky on January 28, 2011, 01:33:41 PM

No I didn't. I just don't like to listen to empty words. They haven't done anything. Zero.
I will be positive with them, when they actually do something positive.

Like make us debt free ? Like bringing back Dalglish ?

I agree with the others on here, you're by far the most miserable poster I've ever encountered.

koppitekop11 · « **Reply #1103 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:35:21 PM »

Quote from: Franky on January 28, 2011, 01:33:41 PM

No I didn't. I just don't like to listen to empty words. They haven't done anything. Zero.
I will be positive with them, when they actually do something positive.

Do you mean like clear our debt? Save us from administration? Do things behind closed doors like it should be?

Captain Wolf Biscuit · « **Reply #1104 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:35:30 PM »

Quote from: Franky on January 28, 2011, 01:33:41 PM

No I didn't. I just don't like to listen to empty words. They haven't done anything. Zero.
I will be positive with them, when they actually do something positive.

Well they've done plenty of positive. And why are you so quick to be negative with them when they haven't done anything negative?

The 92A · « **Reply #1105 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:35:38 PM »

Some of panic on here is embarrassing.

Alan_X · « **Reply #1106 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:35:42 PM »

Quote from: Franky on January 28, 2011, 01:33:41 PM

No I didn't. I just don't like to listen to empty words. They haven't done anything. Zero.
I will be positive with them, when they actually do something positive.

I seem to remember them buying the club off Hicks and Gillett... pretty fucking positive for me.

Still...

revelationx · « **Reply #1107 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:35:50 PM »

Quote from: gerrardlfc on January 28, 2011, 01:33:32 PM

Why haven't the club or Torres came out and said it's all rubbish? i think this might be true

To be fair, they have posted on the Official Site that the Torres bid was rejected and that the player is not for sale. They would look like complete fools, if they said this and then accepted a bid days later.

KopnFresh · « **Reply #1108 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:35:50 PM »

Quote from: Hibsred on January 28, 2011, 01:32:20 PM

A coup by the bookies?

Liverpool have confirmed they've rejected a bid from Chelsea - at what point were the bookies involved?

Yeah they had a bid rejected, so Skysports have something to go with. Bookies feed off this kind of stuff mate. All the stuff about Torres saying he wants to go, but no quotes. That's the coup.

Eddie Curl · « **Reply #1109 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:36:21 PM »

whilst sky have been reporting this story, they have slashed the odds on torres going to chelsea to 1/3, if you ask me its a money making scheme by sky.

Anfield Mob · « **Reply #1110 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:36:28 PM »

Quote from: Cochise on January 28, 2011, 01:21:07 PM

yep, everyone knoew when someone says good afternoon they really mean 'We've sold one of the best strikers in the world'.

haha yep, i just re-read the original post and find drawing a conclusion that hes left from lucan saying gd morning as bizzare as anythin ive read today

Lawnmowerman · « **Reply #1111 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:36:31 PM »

Quote from: Bob Loblaw on January 28, 2011, 01:34:37 PM

I'd of taken administration over this non-spending by the owners. I mean, it's their first transfer window, it's January, and they haven't spent £60m already. They are useless.

Something Else · « **Reply #1112 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:36:44 PM »

Quote from: Franky on January 28, 2011, 01:33:41 PM

No I didn't. I just don't like to listen to empty words. They haven't done anything. Zero.
I will be positive with them, when they actually do something positive.

What empty words

They are doing the job as quietly as they can. Positivity was getting rid of Hodgson, removing the debt and looking to the future.

What gets me these days, and it aint just you, nor is it just in football, but nobody gives things time to happen. If it didnt happen yesterday its time to kick off.

I said weeks ago that the Suarez deal would go down to the wire. Not because im some ITK, but because you have a club with money and a club without, the club without wants the best deal and is willing to play hardball and the club with is not wanting to get ripped off and is playing hardball.

Also, I would rather the new owners walk away from a bid rather than pay over the odds and threaten our long term stability.

Mr Rossi · « **Reply #1113 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:37:04 PM »

Quote from: JasbinderX on January 28, 2011, 01:30:41 PM

Who says we'll get the right price in the Summer?

We've got more of a chance because its a bigger window, so there will be much more time to strike a deal and there will be more quality players available.

Chivasino · « **Reply #1114 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:37:07 PM »

Quote from: gerrardlfc on January 28, 2011, 01:33:32 PM

Why haven't the club or Torres came out and said it's all rubbish? i think this might be true

Our club have FFS. And if they have, then why does Nando need to?

Although I wish he, or someone, would put Ballbag in his place.

Carra23 · « **Reply #1115 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:37:15 PM »

Quote from: gerrardlfc on January 28, 2011, 01:33:32 PM

Why haven't the club or Torres came out and said it's all rubbish? i think this might be true

Because they know it's bullshit.

Plus, the club HAVE rejected their bid.

Slow day at the Sky Sports office, people talking up the impact Kenny has made since he come back and what better way to knock us back down than a 'Torres wants out'.

Non story.

Eddie Curl · « **Reply #1116 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:37:19 PM »

Quote from: KopnFresh on January 28, 2011, 01:35:50 PM

Yeah they had a bid rejected, so Skysports have something to go with. Bookies feed off this kind of stuff mate. All the stuff about Torres saying he wants to go, but no quotes. That's the coup.

i agree just so some soft twats think ill lash a tenner on that

wardides · « **Reply #1117 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:37:24 PM »

Its good to see as usual we have all remained calm and treated it as it is. Aload of shite. Well done lads.

Something Else · « **Reply #1118 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:37:52 PM »

Quote from: The 92A on January 28, 2011, 01:35:38 PM

Some of panic on here is embarrassing.

its more than just panic mate. Its scars and serious issues.

This is no new revolation, its just this thread has brought them all together

Bob Loblaw · « **Reply #1119 on:** January 28, 2011, 01:37:56 PM »

Franky must be the most quoted poster on here, in like, forever, which renders the ignore function useless. Clear WUM. Been at it for weeks and weeks, derailing every thread with the same incessant and nonsensical ramblings about the owners. Mods do nothing.