Topic: Man Utd 1 Liverpool 0 post game

[Chakan]

At the end of the day more positives than negatives. The mancs needed 2 big decision by a ref to beat a 10 man team from liverpool. End of.

[LiverpoolForever]

So my thoughts on the game

First off I think Webb got both decisions right. Agger did catch him, even if he went down easy. Penalty all day.

There was no contact though was there?

[RigBon1892]

Can't really argue the red card but the penalty was a joke.

Nice to see a bit of effort though, not bad for 10 vs 12.

[Samee]

First off I think Webb got both decisions right. Agger did catch him, even if he went down easy. Penalty all day.

Get out.

[RedGuy]

I just wish he'd say one way or the other whether he's committed to the club or not. If he is then he should start showing it and if he's not then we should just cut our losses and let him go.

He did.

[GrkStav]

Gerrard took the ball, in my day that would have been a perfect tackle and I agree with you Paul it wasn't two footed.

First thing I learned in the early 70s when first playing football: Don't come down towards the ball in a 50-50 challenge for it is "dangerous play". Always attempt to toe-poke or side foot or "shoot" a 50-50 ball, don't effectively stomp on it.

The fact that he touched the ball is, no longer, enough to immunize one from punishment.

On the other hand, just a couple of second earlier Rafael had gone in, stomping and two-footed, to a 50-50 challenge with Meireles. Call that and the rest is history.

[rushyman]

Loved it when Kenny took off Torres.

Purely because there will be no big personalitys running the show and he said himself 'no-ones bigger than the club'.

Torres effort was completely unacceptable and he looks as if he's asking for a transfer on the pitch. I so do not want to get on the lads back but theres no excuse for that today. especially at that shithole

[SpartanRed]

If people think this was a great performance you are deluded.
I think that most people feel it was an encouraging improvement & a committed performance
The team showed prided but it wasnt a good performance, however playing 10 vs 12 it was never going to be a good performance.
You seem to have contradicted yourself with that statement.   

[CookThePanda]

Shit fucking game. We never got a chance to show anything had changed. 1-0 down and 1 man down for the majority of it. I thought we were showing good signs up until the Gerrard sending off but after that it really wasn't even a game. Kenny did well to bring Babel on and Torres had to come off... but 60 minutes of that game was just us trying to keep the score down, we didn't show anything incisive, creative etc...

Before everyone jumps on me for saying this... I am as optimistic as anyone about our future now that the King is back... I just think that we were never given a fair chance today and I can't bring myself to feel 'proud' over a 1-0 defeat.

[alvaro]

Its shocking that UTD by n large for the last 20 years can dominate the league, but by n large were so rubbish in Europe..
Liverpool come along, not as good in the league or getting the nice treatment over the past 11 years, but can come close to dominating in Europe... says a lot really

I think it has something to do with Liverpool style being good for knockout matches and not so good against midtable sides instead of a ref conspiracy.

[Scousebeef]

[Mr Dilkington]

Right, so after a positive change in management, the one we have wanted for a while. After a positvie performance, given the circumstances, no talk about the owners holding up back, no Roy holding us back. VDM post about looking forward and being patient.....

One game in, and some people come in calling our players shithouses. I wonder what will please some people, there's just no sense of perspective any more. We've taken the first step on the long road to recovery, things can only go forward. But fuck it.....

Meireles is a shithouse, Torres is a lazy twat 

[LFC Forever]

If we had aquilani...if only...

I was thinking that myself. I was never a big aquillani fan. But I think with the ball played around the ground he would fit right into this team. Where would he play though???

[JoburgRed]

Proud of the team.   Could of gone seriously south after a dodgy first minute penalty.  Loved the 2 subs at 60 minutes which were what was required.
No Gerrard for 3 games will hurt though

[Sarge]

What the fuck Sarge!?

I know. The missus 'did not want to wake me'

[caronia]

Anyone think that Kenny looked quite emotional before the start of the game? Thought I detected a bit of a tear in his eye.....Good man Kenny,passion is what we've been missing.

[TSC]

So my thoughts on the game

First off I think Webb got both decisions right. Agger did catch him, even if he went down easy. Penalty all day.

Dalglish would beg to differ, as would 99% on here.  Get back to red cafe

[Pheeny]

Look, no offence but fuck off with these crass and tasteless Hillsborough links to Webb. It's fucking pathetic and a little bit insulting, not to Webb, but in general.

Retweet...

[SpartanRed]

From Ryan Babel's Twitter(I know, I know!)

"And they call him one of the best referees. That's a joke smh".

SMH: Shake My Head.

Well in Ryan

[vishy01234]

I love the fact that Kenny rolled the dice with youth and made decisions that were logical and smart. I love the fact he trusts potential and gives players a chance to prove themself. So happy he's back. Seriously, I love Kenny. Some major man love emanating from me hahaha ... shame about the result, but let's move on.

[GonzalezIsARed]

Not really - it's all about context really. Don't know where you've been for the last six months or whether you've actually been to a game but we have been fucking gash. We've been handing games to teams on a plate with a static formation and playing with a defeatist attitude from the first whistle whether it was Chelsea or Northampton Town. Until yesterday I was expecting today to be a capitulation by Roy. He'd show the mighty Alex Ferguson too much respect and a loss was nailed on.

Instead we played with passion and fight and matched them for a lot of the game - even with ten men.

Of course we exist to win trophies but that was a massive step forward. The league is so even this year that with performances like that I can see us moving up the table steadily and there's a chance of Kenny winning a European trophy - something that he's missing as a manager.

I have been to as many I could get to mate yeah.
I suppose your right in our current situation but i wouldn't say i was delighted or anything, I hate losing to them c*nts and being out of a trophy as they progress.

[montysmum]

Did Kenny do a post match interview?

He did.

Basically said it wasnt a penalty and didnt thing Gerrard should have been sent off.

Praised the effort and performance of the players and support from the travelling fans

[rafa4sure]

DALGLISH! Love the guy. So proud and happy today.

[Sarge]

Yeah, he's been shite for twenty odd league games. What happened before is irrelevant. If it's good enough for Rafa.

So many of our fans fucking embarass me these day.

What has happened this season is he looks like someone who does not want to be here, simple really. Take off your rose tinted galsses mate.

[kenneth37]

That was never a penalty if they give those kind of penalties we will have 4 or 5 in a game... its ridiculous HOWARD WEBB is a bloody muppet, regarding the sending off i agree it was a dangerous tackle by stevie but if u watch the game closely the same Tackle was made earlier by rafeal on Raul Mireles nothing was given..... its unbelievable everytime the scums play at Old Trafford they always get the benifits of the game... this year every game is a controversy something always happen and its always in favour of the scums.... Although i think we need more pacy players especially on the wings... todays effort was superb the support was fantastic..... i hope Kenny will give them a good lesson for wednesday we cannot afford to lose more games we need to get  a grip and start winning games will come thick and fast....

[Livbes]

Look, no offence but fuck off with these crass and tasteless Hillsborough links to Webb. It's fucking pathetic and a little bit insulting, not to Webb, but in general.

Agreed, i hate the bald fuck but thats below the belt. He missed a kung fu kick to the chest, nothing surprises me with that man!

[Chakan]

So my thoughts on the game

First off I think Webb got both decisions right. Agger did catch him, even if he went down easy. Penalty all day.

Second, Gerrard leaped, two-footed, off the ground and landed on the ball. Red card no question, I don't know how anyone could think otherwise.

As to the game, obviously it was over as a contest after 30 minutes. However, a lot of positives to be drawn. For 1 the team looked balanced and purposeful, pressed high up the pitch and were looking to get forward well. After the sending off that all went to shit of course, but defensively we were solid and the players looked a lot more comfortable in what was largely a Benitez style formation. The subs were mediocre, but I guess in this situation that's no surprise. Still, a marked sight better than anything Hodgson produced.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/SIzaCZ6Ptew?fs=1&amp;" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/SIzaCZ6Ptew?fs=1&amp;</a>

[jooneyisdagod]

Howard Webb  MBE - Manchesters best employee

Just tweeted your explanation to Ryan Babel.  Hope you don't mind !

[Fruity]

Much better performance in general. Kenny is not going to perform miracles overnight but at least there was more effort than normal. We need to bring in some new options and need some players to up their game.

I loved the first two subs as it showed intent early. However shelvey looked very rusty (which is understandable). Couldnt really get going and ended up just chasing the ball. Plenty of commitment shown however.

Problem for kenny is now we have lost gerrard for 3 games at a point where the team could have built some momentum with a new manager in place. So its going to be difficult. Possibly joe cole (if and when fit) could play the 2nd striker/attacking midfield role behind torres.

[Phil_88]

this and didnt aurelio force a good save out of there keeper aswell

[rushyman]

So my thoughts on the game

First off I think Webb got both decisions right. Agger did catch him, even if he went down easy. Penalty all day.

You must be joking. You fucking must be

Even Fat 'I hate Liverpool' Sam as around the houses as he could possibly go had to admit it wasnt a pen. You are just winding surely?

[Fine Shagger, Danny Agger]

It was always going to be a tough game. Moreso with a new manager, a soft penalty and 10 men before half-time.

I'm so proud of the fight in the boys. And the travelling fans as well - loud and proud!

[alvaro]

The team showed prided but it wasnt a good performance, however playing 10 vs 12 it was never going to be a good performance.
You seem to have contradicted yourself with that statement. 

Im saying  that you cant really judge. I want the team dominating possesion, creating chances and scoring them, thats a good performance for me.. However given the fact that we had a harsh sending off and we were already down thanks to a penalty that never happened with 60 minutes left , we cant really take anything from the performance at all. Sure there was some pride and all but I want to see the team winning games.

[Pheeny]

Can't really argue the red card but the penalty was a joke.

Nice to see a bit of effort though, not bad for 10 vs 12.

it's not so much the red it's the fact that a far worse tackle went unpunished not 5 mins earlier.

[Samee]

I know. The missus 'did not want to wake me'

Whaaaat! I hate it when my Mum says that to me. Silly women.

[PILLSBURY069]

what passion,what effort, sure we lost but the man has only had 5 minutes to prepare for the game and yet he still got most of our players giving their all. Never a pen especially as the linesman didnt give it. As for Gerrard, 50/50 for me, he was stupid to go in two footed but most other refs would have yellow carded him and said just 1 more thing steve and you're off, but Webb at his home ground was always going to send him off.
There are plenty of positives and I can see us going on a bit of a run now. If we qualify for europe will people still say the squad he inherited from beinitez/hodgson is poor?

[smicer07]

Can't believe anybody thought that was a penalty.

[vishy01234]

Anyone think that Kenny looked quite emotional before the start of the game? Thought I detected a bit of a tear in his eye.....Good man Kenny,passion is what we've been missing.

Hey I detected that too ... I love the man. Such a brilliant person ... he's one of us.

[redblack7]

If people think this was a great performance you are deluded. The team showed prided but it wasnt a good performance, however playing 10 vs 12 it was never going to be a good performance. Webb preety much won them the game.

Nah.Relative to what has gone before recently it was.It was good.It was more than good.After a crap opening decision like that it was more than good.

[alvaro]

A positive that maybe hasnt been mentioned is that we saw a change early in the second half.