Author Topic: Carlton Cole and Mathew Upson and Marveaux (Read 7062 times)

KennyFowlerTorres81 · « **Reply #80 on:** January 1, 2011, 08:17:08 PM »

Once rated upson - thinks he's been very poor over the last 18 months.
Cole and/or Upson would be awful business, however much we ended up paying. Does either player improve the team?
No. I'd take Ngog over Cole and Ayala, Skrtel, Agger, Carra, Kelly and Soto over Upson...

kvarmeismydad · « **Reply #81 on:** January 1, 2011, 08:18:38 PM »

Upson is shite.

Raoul Duke · « **Reply #82 on:** January 1, 2011, 08:26:16 PM »

Young and Adebayor are alright, and I'd be happy if we signed either, but I think there are better targets out there available for less money.

MBL? · « **Reply #83 on:** January 1, 2011, 08:27:18 PM »

What ever you say or think about Adebayor he will probably get us goals which we badly need.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/player/_/id/16684/emmanuel-adebayor?cc=5739

B_I_F · « **Reply #84 on:** January 1, 2011, 08:34:31 PM »

I think Upson is THE most overrated defender in the world. Very average PL-player and he's getting old. I'd much rather stick with Agger and Wilson as left footed centre backs. I think Liverpool should get a good right sided centre back instead, if you understand what I mean. Gary Cahill etc. I think he's excellent.

I think Carlton Cole is underrated here, I mean he's a good targetman, which is something Liverpool don't have at the moment. OK, he's not exactly a world class player, but he's someone who could do what nobody else in the squad can't.

Marveaux - Gamble?

Robert_B · « **Reply #85 on:** January 1, 2011, 08:39:52 PM »

Quote from: Raoul Duke on January 1, 2011, 08:26:16 PM

Young and Adebayor are alright, and I'd be happy if we signed either, but I think there are better targets out there available for less money.

I'm not really a fan of Adebayor personally, but you can't really argue with his goals return. If we could get him on a good deal I wouldn't complain too much.

I'm a big fan of Ashley Young but I think he's becoming a bit stagnant at a very poor Villa side. If we could get him for £15m or less it would be a good deal.

JoeCole is for life, not just Christmas! · « **Reply #86 on:** January 1, 2011, 08:41:43 PM »

Adebayor and Young would be pretty great signings given where we are at the moment.

Upson and Cole?? Err... Cole would be alright as a back up but West Ham would probably want at least 7 mil for him, and we don't really need another CB.

N-Red · « **Reply #87 on:** January 1, 2011, 08:52:08 PM »

Quote from: El Campeador on January 1, 2011, 07:54:08 PM

Me neither. You'd be hard pressed to find worse targets, honestly.

Frighteningly true...

djphal · « **Reply #88 on:** January 1, 2011, 09:08:08 PM »

Quote from: Fauxy on January 1, 2011, 07:30:11 PM

If we are gonna go for an English defender then why not Cahill...

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MaschHead · « **Reply #89 on:** January 1, 2011, 09:09:09 PM »

Upson? That means one of the centrabacks is leaving? We have 4 first team centrebacks with Wilson and Kelly who are young but can also play there. Also is Upson going (or willing even) to play backup to Agger, since both are leftfooted? Or is Agger leaving?

And Carlton Cole, my god how much is he going to cost? 10 million since he's English?

Fordy · « **Reply #90 on:** January 1, 2011, 09:27:12 PM »

Quote from: djphal on January 1, 2011, 09:08:08 PM

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

If that's problem when the owners have just brought the club then I worry. Cahill would be 10-15m.

Think the issue if we brought someone like Cahill would be Carra plus we do have the likes of Wilson on ranks.

liverpoolfcmike · « **Reply #91 on:** January 1, 2011, 09:28:49 PM »

I can't believe in the Upson/Cole rumours, because neither of them fit the supposed criteria NESV/FSG look for. In addition to that, they are very far from Comolli-typical signings.

Oddball, I very much hope your contact is spectacularly wrong in regards to this rumour.

oddball · « **Reply #92 on:** January 1, 2011, 09:33:26 PM »

Quote from: liverpoolfcmike on January 1, 2011, 09:28:49 PM

I can't believe in the Upson/Cole rumours, because neither of them fit the supposed criteria NESV/FSG look for. In addition to that, they are very far from Comolli-typical signings.

Oddball, I very much hope your contact is spectacularly wrong in regards to this rumour.

Plural! Theres 2.

thegoodfella · « **Reply #93 on:** January 1, 2011, 09:41:00 PM »

Bargain buys.

Cribertinokes · « **Reply #94 on:** January 1, 2011, 09:41:19 PM »

Upson is a dog turd, him and Green went from being good players to utter shite. Carlton Cole is synonymous with barn doors and banjos so he can fuck off too.

Reeves · « **Reply #95 on:** January 1, 2011, 09:43:16 PM »

Quote from: El Rey on January 1, 2011, 07:49:46 PM

FUCK THAT. Upson? Cole? Huth? FML. 2 Players from a team that was bottom of the league, says it fucking all.

Feel sick.

I'll be fucking fucking fucking seething if we buy these c*nts. I'll chain myself to the shankly gates and refuse to leave if Roy is allowed to bring in such fucking shite mediocrity

Kage · « **Reply #96 on:** January 1, 2011, 09:44:50 PM »

Quote from: TALBERT on January 1, 2011, 07:13:56 PM

If were signing this shite then

Roy
Comolli
John Henry and NESV

Can all fuck right off

Scott Parker is the only player I would take from the Hammers or Stoke

I agree. Fucking joke if true.

PJG · « **Reply #97 on:** January 1, 2011, 09:59:24 PM »

Quote from: Ливерпул on January 1, 2011, 07:13:27 PM

From what I have seen of Marveaux, he would be a very solid Bosman addition in the summer ...

But we just got you a new Bosman 6 months ago!

Don't tell me you're already done playing with it

robgomm · « **Reply #98 on:** January 1, 2011, 10:07:36 PM »

OK, to see ANY positive: Cole scored a lovely goal against Fulham, all in one motion. 20 goals in the league in 57 games over the last two seasons (according to Wiki). That's not bad if you intend to use him as support for Torres, with Torres as the (obviously) main scorer.

But, fuck me, he just is maddening. Sometimes barely looks like he's trying, not playing in a 'lazy' way but just not doing anything at all. He misses easy chances and his career record for West Ham is 27 in 123 (again, Wiki-ing it here). Been well off form this season as well.

Add to that his potential price tag and, well, I just don't see it. Surely, SURELY we can find better strikers in the world than Carlton Cole.

thegoodfella · « **Reply #99 on:** January 1, 2011, 10:09:25 PM »

Quote from: PJG on January 1, 2011, 09:59:24 PM

But we just got you a new Bosman 6 months ago!
Don't tell me you're already done playing with it

Which one? Milan or Joey?

Ambrosia · « **Reply #100 on:** January 1, 2011, 10:18:43 PM »

Quote from: Frank. on January 1, 2011, 06:50:52 PM

Don't mind Upson but Carlton Cole. Fuck off.

I mind both, but Upson is utter tripe. Awful player.

astowell1 · « **Reply #101 on:** January 1, 2011, 10:21:51 PM »

Excuse me while I drown myself.

Acaustiq · « **Reply #102 on:** January 1, 2011, 10:23:55 PM »

There is no conceivable process that would result in anyone relevant at the club identifying carlton "one in six at west ham" cole as a viable target.

You don't go from Dzeko to this in one step, it's just not possible.

SRAWL · « **Reply #103 on:** January 1, 2011, 10:24:46 PM »

Quote from: Tepid water on January 1, 2011, 07:50:26 PM

Ahh the old transfer window delusion....

If you don't like it, pray its a smokescreen!

Partially, and also that the new owners have made the club fairly quiet on things like this so far.

LFCfan4Life · « **Reply #104 on:** January 1, 2011, 10:26:29 PM »

cole is absolute turd

upson isnt too bad but doubt the fee will match his true level

hoonin · « **Reply #105 on:** January 1, 2011, 10:29:29 PM »

Carlton Cole? The 18 month exhaustive search around the globe for a new striker results in Carlton Cole?

Jesus wept. Mid-table mediocrity firmly established if that's the level of quality coming in for the starting 11.

Raoul Duke · « **Reply #106 on:** January 1, 2011, 10:30:16 PM »

For a start Upson is fucking thirty one years old. He's English, which means he's automatically overpriced and overrated. He's also gone right off and is regarded by West Ham fans as shite. He's regarded by me as shite for that horrorshow against Germany in South Africa.

At least Cole has age on his side, and you could say that he has at least some sell-on value, although to who exactly I don't know. Upson would be the most redundant transfer you could possibly think of, and I would be bitterly disappointed if Fenway provide funds for such a purchase.

Sinos · « **Reply #107 on:** January 1, 2011, 10:32:03 PM »

Quote from: Gareth on January 1, 2011, 10:29:29 PM

Carlton Cole? The 18 month exhaustive search around the globe for a new striker results in Carlton Cole?

Jesus wept. Mid-table mediocrity firmly established if that's the level of quality coming in for the starting 11.

They're injury prone fuckers so we'll never see either of them play in red shirt.

Promised to never post on RAWK again · « **Reply #108 on:** January 1, 2011, 10:46:22 PM »

Quote from: Acaustiq on January 1, 2011, 10:23:55 PM

You don't go from Dzeko to this in one step, it's just not possible.

Well, it is possible, if you are targeting 2 strikers ... One as a starter, and another one as a backup ... After all, we only have Torres and Ngog as real strikers, and we are playing 4-4-2 on regular basis ...

stoa · « **Reply #109 on:** January 1, 2011, 10:58:18 PM »

Huth would be a good signing. Even for 10m. In home-games Roy could use him as a defender until we're 1-0 down with 10 minutes to go. He could then send him and Soto forward to bombard them with long balls. Away from home, he could play him as a striker and bombard him with long balls...

Either that's the plan or someone at the club has clearly lost the plot...

G Richards · « **Reply #110 on:** January 1, 2011, 10:59:23 PM »

Adebayor would be our second best striker. He would add a physical presence up front and would also be a goalscoring threat. If Manchester City pay some of the ridiculous wages he is undoubtedly on, and he came determined to keep his head down and play to his ability, he would be a good signing. Couple of big ifs, mind.

Ashley Young has been a good player for Villa. He will be our best wide player should he come, and he has also been playing up front at Villa too, so he can do that if needed. He has stagnated a bit. In all likelihood that's down to things going flat at Villa, but there is a slight doubt there. The move woud hopefully spark him back to his best and give us some much needed pace on the flanks. We should not overpay for him. £10M plus Jovanovic, something like that.

Upson - no, no, no! We have some good up and coming defenders and he would only keep them out of the frame.

Cole - no thanks. WOuld be a physical presence, so on that limited basis I could just about see it, but really, we have to be aiming higher than this, especially since we have new owners.

Acaustiq · « **Reply #111 on:** January 1, 2011, 11:00:25 PM »

Quote from: Ливерпул on January 1, 2011, 10:46:22 PM

Well, it is possible, if you are targeting 2 strikers ... One as a starter, and another one as a backup ... After all, we only have Torres and Ngog as real strikers, and we are playing 4-4-2 on regular basis ...

Then you're not going from one to the other are you.

There's no prioritised list that has Edin Dzeko at the top and Cole directly below, was my point.

That aside, why pay millions for a fourth choice striker when Elmander could be had for chips.

djphal · « **Reply #112 on:** January 1, 2011, 11:29:11 PM »

just seen carlton coles air kick on match of the day, what a load of wank

hide5seek · « **Reply #113 on:** January 1, 2011, 11:44:30 PM »

Quote from: Ливерпул on January 1, 2011, 07:19:12 PM

Carlton Cole would not cost 8-10 million ... Something like 6-7 million is more likely, and he is worth that because he has value in certain type of games ... Ngog cost hardly anything because Rafa was a good judge of talent ... He is worth up to 5 million at the moment ... Both C.Cole an Ngog will be the backup strikers at LFC, once we get the proper partner for Torres in the 4-4-2 formation in the summer ...

Carlton Cole is fucking shyte and anyone who thinks he's good knows fuck all about football.

Promised to never post on RAWK again · « **Reply #114 on:** January 1, 2011, 11:46:21 PM »

Quote from: Acaustiq on January 1, 2011, 11:00:25 PM

That aside, why pay millions for a fourth choice striker when Elmander could be had for chips.

Please, don't start me on Elmander ... I've been suggesting him since the summer of 2009, and got ridiculed for it ... I am not talking about him anymore ...

gazzathered · « **Reply #115 on:** January 1, 2011, 11:47:45 PM »

Oh shit,

Matthew Upson 8 years ago maybe, Carlton Cole never, he was absolutely shocking today, embarassing really.
What is the point of getting Upson when we have Kelly and Wilson.

Craigthered · « **Reply #116 on:** January 1, 2011, 11:50:36 PM »

don't want cole, but alot of you are being very harsh with judgement. He is obviously alot better than ngog, and better than heskey in his prime.

HiroProtagonist · « **Reply #117 on:** January 1, 2011, 11:53:31 PM »

Cole and Upson? I'd probably cry. Hope to fuck not.

Steve O · « **Reply #118 on:** January 2, 2011, 12:20:03 AM »

Quote from: djphal on January 1, 2011, 11:29:11 PM

just seen carlton coles air kick on match of the day, what a load of wank

I think he even missed the air. Let's hope comolli was watching as well.

Golden_Child · « **Reply #119 on:** January 2, 2011, 12:36:46 AM »

Everyone should just calm down a bit. Remember last summer when we were linked to quite a few shit full backs? We didn't end up with the likes of Luke Young, Figueroa and Salcido did we? We pulled a rabbit out of the hat and signed the fantastically awesome Paul Koncheskey! We are Liverpool and we do not sign ageing, overrated flops. Roys summer dealings categorically prove that

Author Topic: Carlton Cole and Mathew Upson and Marveaux (Read 7062 times)

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