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Re: Have NESV run out of slack?
« Reply #440 on: January 4, 2011, 04:02:19 PM »
To be honest I thought a loss against Wolves at the bottom of the table at home and chants from the fans were going to be enough to see him gone. Seems i was wrong.

It may be enough to see him gone. FSG deciding that he is gone and him actually leaving do not have to happen at the same time. FSG will not sack him until they know who will replace him, especially when we have loads of games at the moment. The Wolves fiasco probably has sealed his fate, it is just a question of when the axe falls.
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Re: Have NESV run out of slack?
« Reply #441 on: January 4, 2011, 04:06:55 PM »
Put him out of his misery, for fuck sake
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Re: Have NESV run out of slack?
« Reply #442 on: January 4, 2011, 06:28:32 PM »
It may be enough to see him gone. FSG deciding that he is gone and him actually leaving do not have to happen at the same time. FSG will not sack him until they know who will replace him, especially when we have loads of games at the moment. The Wolves fiasco probably has sealed his fate, it is just a question of when the axe falls.

Suppose that is what could be going on, I know there was rumour they approached one but that has just been quashed but then while Hodgson is in the job would they admit to it?? Fingers crossed your right but it would not be the first time we have stuck by someone who is just not cutting it but then again the fans are starting to vote with their feet so can they really ignore that?
Personally id let him go and put someone in temp charge like Kenny but not as a permanent position just while they hunt for a manager.

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Re: Have NESV run out of slack?
« Reply #443 on: January 4, 2011, 06:44:23 PM »
Put him out of his misery, for fuck sake

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Re: Have NESV run out of slack?
« Reply #444 on: January 4, 2011, 09:14:45 PM »
If anyone has missed this post, it's well worth reading from start to end. Point 3 is the key one - the urgent need for a CEO. Hopefully the wait wont be as long as predicted by Roy. If it is, I fear the of patience in supporters will result in histrionics, hand-wringing and misguided claims that FSG are "doing nothing".

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Re: Have NESV run out of slack?
« Reply #445 on: January 4, 2011, 09:29:59 PM »
I don't have a few seasons to wait pal. Like Freddie Merookey said 'I want it all and I want it now', did you hear him ever singing 'I want it all and can wait 8 seasons? no, well nor did I and I have his whole back catalogue but do not misunderstand me, i'm not a batty boy.

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Re: Have NESV run out of slack?
« Reply #446 on: January 4, 2011, 10:42:58 PM »
I don't think they have they are not here long enough, they will make a decision, hopefully it will be the right one. What is clear is that we have all turned into crazy lunatics checking here and news reports every half hour for some news of change. The internet terrorists holed away somewhere clicking refresh all day, proud that we took out the leaders but still trying to nail Comical Ali, it will happen, it's just the embarrassment of how our team plays each week is unbearable to watch.

10k empty seats at Anfield who would have thought it, even when many were boycotting the game because of Hicks and Gillett there wasn't that many empty seats, 4k of them ST holders.

It is painful to see, people don't even slag us off any more, I miss that. We are a joke to nobody but ourselves now. We always support the manager, it sets us apart, but this is unbearable. Spare a thought for whoever inherits this mess, because thats what it is, a mess. :'(
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Re: Have NESV run out of slack?
« Reply #447 on: January 4, 2011, 11:17:28 PM »
Maybe they are planning Kenny as CEO :) but if he was there would be no one really suited to a caretaker manager role so we'd have to stick with the bodge for now. So that would appear that Kenny would be backing the bodge....so we're stuck for now. Oooooh i do love causing arguments :P
Not in a million years CEOs "are just there to sign the cheques". They need a business head who doesnt get involved in the football pitch matters just simply comes up with the money to sign the players the footballing recruitment team identify, but concentrates on growing revenue, sponsorship, international reputation and presence. Thats not Kenny. Kenny should have had Comolli's Roys or his current academy / ambassador role. We want a CEO who wants to create the means for the football department to recruit and then stay the f**k out of it. Thats what you should have done Purslow and then we wouldnt be in this mess.  The managers position should be reviewed at appropriate times based on performance against targets set and agreed between him and the board. They should have benchmarks and a list of factors that if they occur mitigate some of the circumstance. This year should have been
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Re: Have NESV run out of slack?
« Reply #448 on: January 4, 2011, 11:19:10 PM »
I don't think they have they are not here long enough, they will make a decision, hopefully it will be the right one. What is clear is that we have all turned into crazy lunatics checking here and news reports every half hour for some news of change. The internet terrorists holed away somewhere clicking refresh all day, proud that we took out the leaders but still trying to nail Comical Ali, it will happen, it's just the embarrassment of how our team plays each week is unbearable to watch.

10k empty seats at Anfield who would have thought it, even when many were boycotting the game because of Hicks and Gillett there wasn't that many empty seats, 4k of them ST holders.

It is painful to see, people don't even slag us off any more, I miss that. We are a joke to nobody but ourselves now. We always support the manager, it sets us apart, but this is unbearable. Spare a thought for whoever inherits this mess, because thats what it is, a mess. :'(
Change the manager and the ground will be full again for the next match and the away at least for a 3-4 week period. If it was Kenny they could sell the ground out twice.

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Re: Have NESV run out of slack?
« Reply #449 on: January 5, 2011, 10:18:10 PM »
ACT NOW and F*CK all the give them time etc , we havent got time and they should of acted sooner regardless of what excuses are made for them ! I am not the only one worried by there stance and all the talk of Radio Silence being a good thing is Sh*te aswell , as if they would of Sacked him then we wouldnt be sitting here now after yet another Defeat and its another HUMILIATING one , its not like were getting beat by the Mancs or Arsenal or Spurs etc , take a good look who have beaten us and not only that but OUTPLAYED us aswell ! Sort it Now !
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Re: Have NESV run out of slack?
« Reply #450 on: January 5, 2011, 10:19:50 PM »
Here here, what are these chumps up to, show some fucking balls.

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Re: Have NESV run out of slack?
« Reply #451 on: January 5, 2011, 10:38:19 PM »
Have NESV/FSG run out of slack?

Yes.

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Re: Have NESV run out of slack?
« Reply #452 on: January 5, 2011, 10:40:22 PM »
Blind Faith again. Same mistakes. Don't ask questions, don't disagree, don't think, don't... Ok folks.

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Re: Have NESV run out of slack?
« Reply #453 on: January 5, 2011, 10:43:24 PM »
seriously, it does not take that fucking long to find a ceo.....

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Re: Have NESV run out of slack?
« Reply #454 on: January 5, 2011, 10:43:50 PM »
seriously, it does not take that fucking long to find a ceo.....

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Re: Have NESV run out of slack?
« Reply #455 on: January 5, 2011, 10:45:53 PM »
Done it often have you?

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Re: Have NESV run out of slack?
« Reply #456 on: January 5, 2011, 10:47:02 PM »
seriously, it does not take that fucking long to find a ceo.....

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Re: Have NESV run out of slack?
« Reply #457 on: January 5, 2011, 10:49:38 PM »
Jesus what a year it has been
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Re: Have NESV run out of slack?
« Reply #458 on: January 5, 2011, 10:49:52 PM »
Done it often have you?

To find the candidates can not possibly take this long? It did't take them long to interview and appoint their director of tactical scouting. Who even advised them on this role? there was no ceo to help?

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Re: Have NESV run out of slack?
« Reply #459 on: January 5, 2011, 10:50:55 PM »
How is the CEO still a priority while the results are sufering as they are?
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Re: Have NESV run out of slack?
« Reply #460 on: January 5, 2011, 10:54:33 PM »
In fairness nobody knows what their priority is.  They have pushed into a corner by Roy's sheer ineptitude.  A disaster for LFC.  We could really have done with him managing to live up to his own average standards for one season thus giving everyone time to make considered long term decisions.
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Re: Have NESV run out of slack?
« Reply #461 on: January 5, 2011, 10:56:12 PM »
I know NESV want to think long term, don't want to rush in and appoint the wrong person etc etc, all very honourable and I agree.

But...

The club is dying on its arse right now. They need to step in and get rid of Hodgson. Fuck, they could give Terry fucking Venables the job until the end of the season if they want.
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Re: Have NESV run out of slack?
« Reply #462 on: January 5, 2011, 10:57:44 PM »
Act now.

There's more to this than business. The fans aren't going to tolerate embarrassment like this.
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Re: Have NESV run out of slack?
« Reply #463 on: January 5, 2011, 10:58:03 PM »
Our form is forcing NESV's hand but, as much as is possible, they should be left to make THEIR decisions THEIR way. I trust that they know (or are learning) their stuff - their approach with the Red Sox is exactly the kind of strategic approach we need.

We had a world class manager in Rafa and fucked him utterly by forcing him to make ridiculous compromises at every turn. I hope and think that we now have world class owners, and I don't want us to make that same mistake again. No more compromise, and if that means being patient (and, sadly, numb) for a while longer, if that means swallowing it and getting in a couple of 'Roy' type players to keep us safe from relegation while NESV get things right off the pitch then I can definitely live with it.

The more time they have to make this decision, the more they are able to do it the way they want to, the more chance there is they'll get it right, the better it is for us long term. Because that's what this is all about - we finally have owners capable of thinking long term, I even think we have owners who are (from what I can tell) a lot cleverer in terms of strategy than anyone else in what is a pretty luddite league.

The absolute LAST thing we need at this stage is another fuck up. Once again though, I'd like to thank Purslow for his magnificent footballing legacy to the club. Look on your works, ye mighty, and despair.

One thing I do know for sure though - sacking Hodgson on the basis of 'well anyone could do better' is exactly the wrong thing to do. We already tried that, and it turned out that anyone was a total disaster.
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Re: Have NESV run out of slack?
« Reply #464 on: January 5, 2011, 10:58:33 PM »
In fairness nobody knows what their priority is.  They have pushed into a corner by Roy's sheer ineptitude.  A disaster for LFC.  We could really have done with him managing to live up to his own average standards for one season thus giving everyone time to make considered long term decisions.

Absolutely, but this slide is not something that has just now ambushed us from behind a corner.
It was a long time coming and should have been dealt with when it started.
If they sack him this very minute it is overdue and that IS a mistake by Fenway, no matter how much anybody sugarcoats it.

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Re: Have NESV run out of slack?
« Reply #465 on: January 5, 2011, 10:59:24 PM »
Said somewhere in this thread a couple of weeks ago that for me they either had to put their hands in their pockets or sack H****** in January, preferably both.
 After tonight's fucking abominations they MUST act overnight or I will lose what little faith I still have in them.

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Re: Have NESV run out of slack?
« Reply #466 on: January 5, 2011, 11:00:26 PM »
It is amazing really how quickly the bright light can start to flicker.
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Re: Have NESV run out of slack?
« Reply #467 on: January 5, 2011, 11:01:13 PM »
Yes and it now seems balls also
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Re: Have NESV run out of slack?
« Reply #468 on: January 5, 2011, 11:01:29 PM »
You think they were just recommended Comolli by Beane?   Keith Edelman was advising NESV during the takeover.  Comolli was Chief European Scout at Arsenal under Edelman.  I find it hard to believe that he was not an Edelman recommendation.
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Edelman may have "recommended" Comolli, but if he is good enough to be listened to on DOFS appointments, why is he not good enough for the CEO job himself. Or perhaps he doesnt fancy it?

The clamour for Kenny as Manager has obsured the more puzzling reluctance by FSG to offer Kenny a non-exec Directorship on the Board.They have nothing to lose. Non-execs can come and go.They can cost very little too. So why not?

There is a known quartet of CEO's who could do the job and are "available" to be wooed.But nothing has happened. Now if one of those four is appointed, with a reason given for the delay, or an outstanding candidate bursts onto the scene - fair enough.

The "difficulty" of appointing a CEO is being overstated. Well paid, well resourced, prestige jobs like ours have a kudos which some are undervaluing.

The decision to prematurely appoint Comolli looks like a mistake. The failure to appoint kenny to the Board, is a mistake. the delay in appointing a new CEO is damaging. I accept that a "wonder appointment" will address this - I am waiting.
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Re: Have NESV run out of slack?
« Reply #469 on: January 5, 2011, 11:01:31 PM »
Time to pull their finger out. It dosen't feel like our club anymore with this bloke in charge. I mean, the majority thought we'd get rolled tonight at Blackburn befor a ball was kicked, for fuck sake. That's the mentality Hodgson has spread through this club during his tenure.
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Re: Have NESV run out of slack?
« Reply #470 on: January 5, 2011, 11:01:48 PM »
Act now or it's Championship next season.

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Re: Have NESV run out of slack?
« Reply #471 on: January 5, 2011, 11:03:26 PM »
Act now or it's Championship next season.

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Re: Have NESV run out of slack?
« Reply #472 on: January 5, 2011, 11:03:28 PM »
Sack Roy or lose the fans NESV

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Re: Have NESV run out of slack?
« Reply #473 on: January 5, 2011, 11:03:34 PM »
some tossers in ere, they have saved us from twit and twat, for that they deserve time to prove themselves, im glad they havnt knee jerked, shows desire to get things right rather than acting on impulse

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Re: Have NESV run out of slack?
« Reply #474 on: January 5, 2011, 11:03:35 PM »
He needs to go as soon as, we could seriously be relegated at this rate. Easily.

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Re: Have NESV run out of slack?
« Reply #475 on: January 5, 2011, 11:03:39 PM »
“Roy Hodgson is hanging by a thread”
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Re: Have NESV run out of slack?
« Reply #476 on: January 5, 2011, 11:04:07 PM »
some tossers in ere, they have saved us from Hicks and Gillett, for that they deserve time to prove themselves, im glad they havnt knee jerked, shows desire to get things right rather than acting on impulse

How does it show desire to get things right?

They are keeping the man steering us towards relegation.
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Re: Have NESV run out of slack?
« Reply #477 on: January 5, 2011, 11:05:33 PM »
Sorry, but every second that goes by without NESV firing Hodgson is a disgrace and an insult to the fans.
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Re: Have NESV run out of slack?
« Reply #478 on: January 5, 2011, 11:06:18 PM »
some tossers in ere, they have saved us from Hicks and Gillett, for that they deserve time to prove themselves, im glad they havnt knee jerked, shows desire to get things right rather than acting on impulse

Have they? Goodness of their heart and all that?
How about what fans deserve? Do they deserve to see the back of both Purslow and Hodgson?
Do they? Knee jerk my ass...

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Re: Have NESV run out of slack?
« Reply #479 on: January 5, 2011, 11:06:50 PM »
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How does it show desire to get things right?

They are keeping the man steering us towards relegation.

It shows they are prepared not to simply bow to the fans, sack someone without having an idea of what they want to happen, they are doing the right thing