Author Topic: The 100 greatest living Liverpool players (subtitled: Better than Diouf) (Read 1444 times)

Stevo · « **Reply #40 on:** March 8, 2004, 04:10:27 PM »

Quote from: Barney_Rubble on March 8, 2004, 04:05:31 PM

Aye, fair enough, without getting into the 'comparing attackers with defenders' stuff too. And there's only two so far.

Have to strongly disagree with Collymore. He only came to line his fucking pockets, and treated the club with contempt as far as I can tell. He and Ince are about the only former players I hate with a passion.

But he was (and probably is) still better than Diouf!

Rushian · « **Reply #41 on:** March 8, 2004, 04:17:42 PM »

thought Collymore played superbly for us for best part of two seasons and treated the club with far more respect than many of his clubmates at the time. Everything he says about the club now is positive.

His biggest failure was his mental problems. Often derided, often overlooked and almost always misunderstood.

MichaelA · « **Reply #42 on:** March 8, 2004, 04:44:51 PM »

Quote from: Rushian on March 8, 2004, 04:17:42 PM

His biggest failure was his mental problems. Often derided, often overlooked and almost always misunderstood.

Yes, he has recently been misunderstood in a few car parks as well.

Agree about Ruddock, no class whatsoever, the man is pond life.

Hightown Phil · « **Reply #43 on:** March 8, 2004, 04:54:25 PM »

Ronnie Rosenthal.
Tommy Lawrence.
Joey Jones.

Pheeny · « **Reply #44 on:** March 8, 2004, 05:05:01 PM »

Quote from: Hightown Phil on March 8, 2004, 04:54:25 PM

Ronnie Rosenthal.
Tommy Lawrence.
Joey Jones.

now that is taking the piss!

Hightown Phil · « **Reply #45 on:** March 8, 2004, 05:06:52 PM »

In comparison to Westerveld and Ziege?

Pheeny · « **Reply #46 on:** March 8, 2004, 05:08:32 PM »

if some are taking the piss so will I

Igor Biscan
Danny Murphy
Richie Partridge

Dan_L · « **Reply #47 on:** March 8, 2004, 05:10:14 PM »

Quote from: Hightown Phil on March 8, 2004, 04:54:25 PM

Ronnie Rosenthal.
Tommy Lawrence.
Joey Jones.

I would deffo include 2 of 3.

Hightown Phil · « **Reply #48 on:** March 8, 2004, 05:10:49 PM »

Which 2?

Stevo · « **Reply #49 on:** March 8, 2004, 05:11:05 PM »

Quote from: Pheeny on March 8, 2004, 05:08:32 PM

Danny Murphy

Not a bad shout actually. I'd say he was better than Diouf for a start. And his goalscoring record is pretty good for a midfielder.

Deffo taking the piss with Biscan though!

Dan_L · « **Reply #50 on:** March 8, 2004, 05:12:51 PM »

Quote from: Hightown Phil on March 8, 2004, 05:10:49 PM

Which 2?

Lawrence and Jones

Rushian · « **Reply #51 on:** March 8, 2004, 05:16:22 PM »

Lawrence, J. Jones and Murphy are included.

kiNki · « **Reply #52 on:** March 8, 2004, 05:20:21 PM »

the list really does show the age of most people posting on rawk with all teh fairly recent players being named.

Think any players who helped us win championships, euro cups etc from the 60's, 70's, 80's are worth more of a shout than the showmen of the 90's with a few notable exceptions.

Rushian · « **Reply #53 on:** March 8, 2004, 05:25:27 PM »

kinki - give us your three nominations then ....

... there's at least one absolute legend not named yet who would push for a starting XI place in our greatest team.

Barney_Rubble · « **Reply #54 on:** March 8, 2004, 05:31:20 PM »

Quote from: Rushian on March 8, 2004, 05:25:27 PM

... there's at least one absolute legend not named yet who would push for a starting XI place in our greatest team.

Initials R.K. ?

Was mentioned a while back, not added to the list.

Ian_R · « **Reply #55 on:** March 8, 2004, 05:32:49 PM »

Surely Glen Hysen deserves a place in there. Maybe not one of our best ever defenders but did at least contribute to real trophies?

Rushian · « **Reply #56 on:** March 8, 2004, 05:48:42 PM »

Updated list

Alan A'Court
John Aldridge
Alf Arrowsmith
Markus Babbel
John Barnes
Peter Beardsley
Jim Beglin
Patrik Berger
Gerry Byrne
Ian Callaghan
Jamie Carragher
Jimmy Case
Ray Clemence
Stan Collymore
Peter Cormack
Kenny Dalglish
David Fairclough
Robbie Fowler
Steven Gerrard
Gary Gillespie
Bruce Grobbelaar
Brian Hall
Didi Hamann
Alan Hansen
Steve Heighway
Stephane Henchoz
Ray Houghton
Emlyn Hughes
Roger Hunt
Sami Hyypia
David Johnson
Craig Johnston
Joey Jones
Rob Jones
Kevin Keegan
Alan Kennedy
Ray Kennedy
Chris Lawler
Tommy Lawrence
Mark Lawrenson
Sammy Lee
Alec Lindsay
Gary McAllister
Terry McDermott
Steve McMahon
Steve McManaman
Jimmy Melia
Gordon Milne
Jan Molby
Ronnie Moran
Danny Murphy
Phil Neal
Steve Nicol
Michael Owen
Jamie Redknapp
Ian Rush
Tommy Smith
Graeme Souness
Ian St. John
Willie Stevenson
Geoff Strong
Peter Thompson
Phil Thompson
John Toshack
Paul Walsh
John Wark
Ronnie Whelan
Mark Wright
Ron Yeats

(67 players)

Suggested but not yet included:
Westerveld, Ziege, Anelka, K. McDonald, Kewell, Baros, Heskey, Camara, Dudek, Litmanen, Kevin Lewis, Glenn Hysen, Ronnie Rosenthal

Rejected:
Ruddock

Litherland_Leon · « **Reply #57 on:** March 8, 2004, 05:58:39 PM »

paul ince and maybe clutching at straws but nigel clough even just for his brace on his debut and the goals against the Mancs

B9 · « **Reply #58 on:** March 8, 2004, 06:01:17 PM »

Quote from: Rushian on March 8, 2004, 05:48:42 PM

Suggested but not yet included:
Westerveld, Ziege, Anelka, K. McDonald, Kewell, Baros, Heskey, Camara, Dudek, Litmanen, Kevin Lewis, Glenn Hysen, Ronnie Rosenthal

Rejected:
Ruddock

Murphy has a case as he has been named player of the year. That said, after january, the outstanding Murphy saw him lose his regular RM to be moved around on the midfield where spots where available, as Diouf made that one his own, and has so far not reclaimed it.

I'd include Baros though. So far he has proven more than Diouf.

On a side note, ged said earlier this season than Lm was probably Diouf's best position. Just struck me: Why didn't he play him there last season, instead of playing whoever was the least poor there, when we had a player like Murphy on the right?

Jon R · « **Reply #59 on:** March 8, 2004, 06:08:28 PM »

Erik Meijer

Dan_L · « **Reply #60 on:** March 8, 2004, 06:22:34 PM »

Larry Lloyd
Gary Ablett

robbie · « **Reply #61 on:** March 8, 2004, 07:09:01 PM »

Alun Evans for sure must be in the top 100

Jim H · « **Reply #62 on:** March 8, 2004, 07:15:29 PM »

Peter Wall
Johnny Morrisey
Jimmy Melia

Bobby Moore · « **Reply #63 on:** March 8, 2004, 07:58:37 PM »

Quote from: Pheeny on March 8, 2004, 05:05:01 PM

now that is taking the piss!

Since we're taking the piss, I'd like to nominate Sean Dundee, Jean-Michel Ferri, and Phil Babb.

seawa · « **Reply #64 on:** March 9, 2004, 02:23:35 AM »

Quote from: Dan_L on March 8, 2004, 03:53:38 PM

Steve Staunton, remember his last appearance when he came on for Traore and hit the bar in Athens.

I almost suggested Stan, but then I'm biased because I've always had a soft spot for him.

He doesn't seem to be on the list though - either accepted or rejected.

What was the verdict Rushian?

Rushian · « **Reply #65 on:** March 9, 2004, 02:46:08 AM »

Updated list

Alan A'Court
John Aldridge
Alf Arrowsmith
Markus Babbel
John Barnes
Peter Beardsley
Jim Beglin
Patrik Berger
Gerry Byrne
Ian Callaghan
Jamie Carragher
Jimmy Case
Ray Clemence
Stan Collymore
Peter Cormack
Kenny Dalglish
David Fairclough
Robbie Fowler
Steven Gerrard
Gary Gillespie
Bruce Grobbelaar
Brian Hall
Didi Hamann
Alan Hansen
Steve Heighway
Stephane Henchoz
Ray Houghton
Emlyn Hughes
Roger Hunt
Sami Hyypia
David Johnson
Craig Johnston
Joey Jones
Rob Jones
Kevin Keegan
Alan Kennedy
Ray Kennedy
Chris Lawler
Tommy Lawrence
Mark Lawrenson
Sammy Lee
Alec Lindsay
Larry LLoyd
Gary McAllister
Terry McDermott
Steve McMahon
Steve McManaman
Jimmy Melia
Gordon Milne
Jan Molby
Ronnie Moran
Danny Murphy
Phil Neal
Steve Nicol
Michael Owen
Jamie Redknapp
Ian Rush
Tommy Smith
Graeme Souness
Ian St. John
Steve Staunton
Willie Stevenson
Geoff Strong
Peter Thompson
Phil Thompson
John Toshack
Paul Walsh
John Wark
Ronnie Whelan
Mark Wright
Ron Yeats

(69 players)

Suggested but not yet included:
Westerveld, Ziege, Anelka, K. McDonald, Kewell, Baros, Heskey, Camara, Dudek, Litmanen, Kevin Lewis, Glenn Hysen, Ronnie Rosenthal, Paul Ince, Nigel Clough, Alun Evans, Gary Ablett

Rejected:
Ruddock

seawa · « **Reply #66 on:** March 9, 2004, 02:56:34 AM »

thanks!

Rushian · « **Reply #67 on:** March 9, 2004, 03:10:44 AM »

others to consider:

Matteo, McAteer, David James, Bjornbye, Mark Walters, Saunders, Riedle, Hutchison, Scales, Barmby, Heggem, Venison, Marsh, Spackman, Burrows, Michael Robinson, Bobby Graham

4pool · « **Reply #68 on:** March 9, 2004, 03:43:44 AM »

Well as there has been some piss taking with respect to adding names..

Why did Pele select Diouf in the first place?
Could it be he was African Player of the Year twice?
Could it be he lead his side to upset the reigning World Cup Champions ( France)?

I realize at club level he hasn't found the success he's had elsewhere but surely we should give him his due..

But as to the list..
Where Riise? It was his inclusion at left mid that made the side go during the Treble season. That's when we went on the run from Jan-May.

gjloh · « **Reply #69 on:** March 9, 2004, 06:24:37 AM »

Mike Marsh dammit! Why didn't ayone include him

longtimered · « **Reply #70 on:** March 9, 2004, 07:14:18 AM »

Think Dave Hickson should be included-his transfer was sensational at the time.Bobby Graham is a good call;Phil Boersma is a possible.

kiNki · « **Reply #71 on:** March 9, 2004, 08:30:40 AM »

havent had time to mull over the updated list but while your @ it steve why not do the worst 100 players. I reckon a few players would be suggested for both lists like ruddock.

hoonin · « **Reply #72 on:** March 9, 2004, 08:31:18 AM »

Are you allowd to nominate players already mentioned?

Whilst I await the answer.....

Gary Mac. Dont think he's been mentioned

Tom iGor · « **Reply #73 on:** March 9, 2004, 08:43:25 AM »

Barney_Rubble · « **Reply #74 on:** March 9, 2004, 08:50:29 AM »

oops

hello

Murf · « **Reply #75 on:** March 9, 2004, 08:54:37 AM »

Just cant believe no one has said RAY KENNEDY

TAKE THAT BACK
Alan Evans
Alan Waddle
Jason Mcateer

Joe C · « **Reply #76 on:** March 9, 2004, 09:26:07 AM »

LITMANEN
LITMANEN
LITMANEN

AndyJ · « **Reply #77 on:** March 9, 2004, 10:14:13 AM »

Quote from: 4pool on March 9, 2004, 03:43:44 AM

But as to the list..
Where Riise? It was his inclusion at left mid that made the side go during the Treble season. That's when we went on the run from Jan-May.

Can I take this moment to point out that Riise wasn't at the club during the Treble season and that although he had one good season that hardly constitutes an inclusion in our 100 greatest players list.

There are people taking the piss on here - I saw Ince mentioned

Filler. · « **Reply #78 on:** March 9, 2004, 11:08:47 AM »

Michael Robinson
Dean Saunders
Michael Thomas

4pool · « **Reply #79 on:** March 9, 2004, 12:55:15 PM »

Quote from: AndyJ on March 9, 2004, 10:14:13 AM

Can I take this moment to point out that Riise wasn't at the club during the Treble season and that although he had one good season that hardly constitutes an inclusion in our 100 greatest players list.

There are people taking the piss on here - I saw Ince mentioned

Ooopppss..I meant the next season when we came second..

Alright then, how about Nick Barmby from the treble season..

Author Topic: The 100 greatest living Liverpool players (subtitled: Better than Diouf) (Read 1444 times)

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