Topic: LFC and England agreed 60 mins for Stevie G

[ac]

Feel like shit for saying this but this may be a blessing in disguise if Gerrard's injury hastens the sacking of Hodgson.

[firing squad]

Yes.

Poulsen-Lucas - Meireles midfield. We'll twat them

Lucas is suspended.

[Little Louie]

Crap!!!

 

[Jay012345]

Pacheco has got to make at least the bench against west ham with lucas and stevie out

[Skeeve]

there was 85 000 fans who payed to be there to see England try to win a game.

agreed on everything else.

They had already paid their money so the FA wouldn't give a fuck about them, not to mention that if england were trying to win this game then they would have picked a stronger squad and/or balanced out the senior players in the 1st and 2nd halves.

[rushyman]

fucking friendly v France just cos his side were getting schooled. Fuck off Capello you twat

[Number 7]

So fucking pissed off. Can't say I'm surprised really as every International break this season we've had someone go down. Next time Stevie is called up we should tell them to fuck off.

People don't remember but Johnson also got injured on International duty the last time and still hasn't recovered.

I'd like to see a stat on how many of our league goals this season were either scored or assisted by Torres or Gerrard. I bet you most of them are. Which makes this even more scary now. 

[rushyman]

I'm sorry you can't cope with people having opposing views without being rude

And you mate, are you taking the piss?

[Dixon_Cox]

wake me up when this season's over

It was over in October mate.

[Redwhiteandnotblue]

It's actually a ready-made excuse for Hodgson though, isn't it?

I can't believe:

a) that people are hoping that we'll lose against West Ham
b) that Hodgson won't use it as an excuse if we do
c) that Gerrard, knowing he was supposed to go off on the hour mark, didn't force the issue and insist on being substituted
d) the gutlessness of our club in failing to hold England to account for this and insisting on the tweet removal

It's very interesting that it's Tony Pulis of all people who's actually trying to hold the FA and "Team England" to account. He's a Redknapp acolyte isn't he? What's his agenda? Whose agenda is it actually?

[leiva-pool]

It clearly is Capello's fault, he knew about the agreement and decided to ignore it leading to our player getting injured.


Comparing a friendly to either a proper liverpool game or an england qualifier completely misses the point about the nature of this game, there was zero benefit from a win so keeping a player on the pitch too long at the risk of an injury was simply moronic. Gerrard's job was done by the moment he stepped on the pitch, the FA had got the money from the tickets thanks to a few bigger names that were mixed in with the youngsters.

Given the feebleness of the excuse, it looks more like Capello kept him on the pitch as he was trying to scrape some kind of result from a meaningless friendly since it would keep the press off his back and there isn't another england game for months so he wasn't risking the health of his won squad so there was no risk to him.

This is the kind of attitude that I really despise and it's because of this attitude that are England are such a poor footballing nation. The fans don't give a fuck so quite honestly, why should the players give a fuck? If England are to ever become an international force again, then this attitude needs to change. Playing for your country should not be a burden and these days, that's it exactly what it is. This whole agreement between club and country is a farce. Clubs should not dictate what a country to do and that's what happens in England.

I know most scousers don't give a fuck about international football but I'm sure there are plenty of fans who do. Steven Gerrard, by choosing to represent his country, means he does care and he also knows full well the risks of playing for your country. He chose to accept it, so the club and the fans have to accept it as well.

It's only really in England where a game against France is termed meaningless. Even if it is a friendly, it's still a game that England need to win. When Liverpool play a friendly, do you not care if we lose? It's this English attitude which needs to change. Spain lost 4-0 to Portugal but I'm pretty sure their fans will be furious and sad at the same time at the manner of the defeat. Compare that to English fans, "who gives a fuck, it's a friendly" attitude.

So yeah, like I said, this game might be meaningless to you but I'm sure there are fans who want to see their country win. Capello was hired so he can get England to win games. In order to win games, you need to play your best players.

[Chakan]

So yeah, like I said, this game might be meaningless to you but I'm sure there are fans who want to see their country win. Capello was hired so he can get England to win games. In order to win games, you need to play your best players.

So being 1 nil down at half time why did he take Rio off? Surely you don't want to concede more goals?

[slaphead]

It was over in October mate.

Bunch of happy people in here aren't we.
Our seasons far from over
As has been proved this season already anyone can beat anyone so I see no reason why with a few good decisions by NESV and a few quality additions in January we can't push for top 4. Why not ?
Gerarrds out - we get on with it. Meireles needs to step it up now and maybe Joe Cole will come back and hit form who knows.
Tell you what though, West Ham are getting it on Saturday

[leiva-pool]

So being 1 nil down at half time why did he take Rio off? Surely you don't want to concede more goals?

Stop being so childish.

Rio was taken off as a precaution. Which means he tweaked something and would risked injury if he hadn't. Gerrard, on the other hand was fully fit.

[Bangin Them In]

Bring in Jonjo, about time anyway.

Play him, Meireles, Cole and Jovanovic across midfield and Nando and either Dirk or Pacheco up top.

No point whinging, shit happens.

[Chakan]

Stop being so childish.

Rio was taken off as a precaution. Which means he tweaked something and would risked injury if he hadn't. Gerrard, on the other hand was fully fit.

No Rio himself said he wasn't injured.... IT WAS A PRECAUTION to him not getting an injury.

How am I being childish? You stated that in order to win games Capello would have to play his best players so explain to me how taking off your best defender being 1 - 0 down at the time is going along with your premise.

[slaphead]

Bring in Jonjo, about time anyway.

Play him, Meireles, Cole and Jovanovic across midfield and Nando and either Dirk or Pacheco up top.

No point whinging, shit happens.

Short and sweet - well said my friend.
Is Cole back on Saturday then aye ?

[gazzalfc]

Liverpool player gets injured during pointless international match shocker

Give Hodgson an extra 4 weeks of easy excuses. We should beat West Hame without him.

[Benimar Col]

3-4 weeks out according to LFC.tv

fuck England. Fuck capello.

this really takes the biscuit

Liverpool player gets injured during pointless international match shocker

Give Roy an extra 4 weeks of easy excuses. We should beat West Hame without him.

my thoughts exactly,  a month of sitting back on the bench without blame for any impending pathetic results that we will get

[sisterbliss]

Bring in Jonjo, about time anyway.

Play him, Meireles, Cole and Jovanovic across midfield and Nando and either Dirk or Pacheco up top.

No point whinging, shit happens.

Midfield sounds more than feasible enough to me but you know Hodgson and his Poulsen admiration.

[DM Red]

Is Joe COle available this weekend or is he still injured?

[Chakan]

Is Joe COle available this weekend or is he still injured?

Torres, Kuyt, Skrtel and Johnson all declared fit for Liverpool http://tinyurl.com/3a4o299

Cole still sidelined

[Trada]

Liverpool player gets injured during pointless international match shocker

Give Roy an extra 4 weeks of easy excuses. We should beat West Hame without him.

It shouldn't do I always remember the media saying that Rafa couldn't use injuries as an excuse when we lost and we had Srevie and Nando out for a lot last season.

[koptommy93]

Fucking pointless International friendlies cost Liverpool AGAIN

[killerH]

wake me up when this season's over

Indeed, it's a nightmare of a season already, much worse than last season imo (and I thought it couldn't possibley get worse than last season! Step forward Roy Hodgson).

 I feel chronically depressed before (knowing we are likely to play shit (even when we win we play shite defensive football) or lose (or both obviously, like Stoke). Every week, nothing changes, nothing positive anyway. The latest Gerrard injury is another kick in the stomach for me. I honestly hope that Roy does not last the season, I can imagine being in a coma being less painful than watching a Roy Hodgson team for 38-55 games! As someone else said while ago, it's like watching a car crash in slow motion, and being helpless to do anything about it!


(Rant over)

[killerH]

It shouldn't do I always remember the media saying that Rafa couldn't use injuries as an excuse when we lost and we had Srevie and Nando out for a lot last season.

Agreed, we had Nando and Stevie starting only 14 PL games the season we should have won the PL. And last season not a week went by without either getting injured or was rushed back due to a depleted squad (a horrible season for injuries).

[sidneyroughdiamond]

In-ger-land, In-ger-land, In-ger-land

[DM Red]

Torres, Kuyt, Skrtel and Johnson all declared fit for Liverpool http://tinyurl.com/3a4o299

Cole still sidelined

no surprise there then.

how many games has he played since we got him?

[..Bruiser..]

I'd like to see a stat on how many of our league goals this season were either scored or assisted by Torres or Gerrard. I bet you most of them are. Which makes this even more scary now. 

12 out of 13

[Robotforaday]

Let me ask a legal question: how can the FA have a right to call up our players willy nilly when they are under contract to us? What is the technical situation here, and would we be entitled to sue?

The issue is that a modern professional footballer needs the technical support of a medical and sports science team. We have that in place in Liverpool. The Ingerlund set-up, by comparison, has just been described as amateurish by people who know what they're talking about.
So, given that we pay the wages of these players and (I would imagine) assert exclusive use rights in their contracts (otherwise they could play 90 minutes for whoever whenever they felt like it) - why are we allowing them to be taken away from our professional set-up for several days and sent to another organisation without the expertise?

Are there any court precedents on this? Or is it up to us to test it?

[dorsetgill]

Can things get any worse???Bloody internationals!!!

[AJ4Seven]

No Rio himself said he wasn't injured.... IT WAS A PRECAUTION to him not getting an injury.

How am I being childish? You stated that in order to win games Capello would have to play his best players so explain to me how taking off your best defender being 1 - 0 down at the time is going along with your premise.

Perhaps Capello thought Micah Richards would be a better bet going forward than Jagelika was(also England had much cover at CB than in midfield)

[Redeo]

Cole still sidelined

The only piece of good news in all of this...

[Gaz123456]

Time to give Shelvey and Pacheco a chance. We'll never know how good they can be if they don't play.

[hedger]

12 out of 13

and some fans say sell them 

[Andy @ Allerton]

and some fans say sell them 

Nah. Just Gerrard would be fine. Torres is a young, upcoming striker with endless talent.

[funksta]

ROY SAYS HE'S GOING FOR THE WIN

reina
Kelly soto wilson konchesky
johnson spearing carra kuyt
torres ngog/ ecceston

eccleston's  finish midweek was as cool as fck. the lad needs a go, and a piss poor west ham defence is a good way to start!

 

[rafasredangel]

Fucking England! So pissed off.

[Skeeve]

This is the kind of attitude that I really despise and it's because of this attitude that are England are such a poor footballing nation. The fans don't give a fuck so quite honestly, why should the players give a fuck? If England are to ever become an international force again, then this attitude needs to change. Playing for your country should not be a burden and these days, that's it exactly what it is. This whole agreement between club and country is a farce. Clubs should not dictate what a country to do and that's what happens in England.

England is such a poor footballing nation due to far more serious reasons than that such as the way the kids have the talent coached out of them.

The attitude being presented here today is primarily because this friendly served no useful purpose other than to make a profit for the FA and the fact that it is not a competitive fixture is why the clubs makes requests such as the 60 mins one, you don't see clubs trying to dictate things to countries when it comes to the tournaments despite the fact that they often leave players wrecked by the time of the next season.
 

It's only really in England where a game against France is termed meaningless. Even if it is a friendly, it's still a game that England need to win. When Liverpool play a friendly, do you not care if we lose? It's this English attitude which needs to change. Spain lost 4-0 to Portugal but I'm pretty sure their fans will be furious and sad at the same time at the manner of the defeat. Compare that to English fans, "who gives a fuck, it's a friendly" attitude.

So yeah, like I said, this game might be meaningless to you but I'm sure there are fans who want to see their country win. Capello was hired so he can get England to win games. In order to win games, you need to play your best players.

Was the spanish side a very inexperienced experimental one, if not then they should be a bit annoyed, but when a manager is so clearly experimenting against a quality side then expecting to win is fairly unrealistic and no reason to break a sensibly agreed limitation on a player that does tend to be injury prone at times.

If winning the friendly was so important then Capello should have picked a much stronger squad with sufficient coverage for injuries in all areas.

[koptician]

This is the kind of attitude that I really despise and it's because of this attitude that are England are such a poor footballing nation. The fans don't give a fuck so quite honestly, why should the players give a fuck? If England are to ever become an international force again, then this attitude needs to change. Playing for your country should not be a burden and these days, that's it exactly what it is. This whole agreement between club and country is a farce. Clubs should not dictate what a country to do and that's what happens in England.

I know most scousers don't give a fuck about international football but I'm sure there are plenty of fans who do. Steven Gerrard, by choosing to represent his country, means he does care and he also knows full well the risks of playing for your country. He chose to accept it, so the club and the fans have to accept it as well.

It's only really in England where a game against France is termed meaningless. Even if it is a friendly, it's still a game that England need to win. When Liverpool play a friendly, do you not care if we lose? It's this English attitude which needs to change. Spain lost 4-0 to Portugal but I'm pretty sure their fans will be furious and sad at the same time at the manner of the defeat. Compare that to English fans, "who gives a fuck, it's a friendly" attitude.

So yeah, like I said, this game might be meaningless to you but I'm sure there are fans who want to see their country win. Capello was hired so he can get England to win games. In order to win games, you need to play your best players.

You're on the wrong forum son.  I'm english (but not scouse) and Liverpool comes first every time.  England's problems lie a WHOLE lot deeper than you make it out (another story). Capello was wrong, DEAD wrong.