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Re: The John W Henry Interview - Part Two
« Reply #200 on: November 17, 2010, 03:15:54 AM »
Does anyone know if Nesv were so behind the manager when they took over the Red Sox?

Were they acting and saying nice things about him before they let him go or did they just keep quiet about it and then just sacked him?

Much has been made of some of the similarities between the Red Sox at the time Henry bought them and Liverpool at the time Henry bought them (stadium, etc.). The manager is one more example. As a lifelong Red Sox fan, the single greatest mistake management made under Henry was letting Grady Little (the manager in charge when Henry took over) stay in his position. It cost them a World Series appearance (not hyperbole, Little was directly culpable for the team's loss in game seven of the 2003 ALCS). I would be very surprised if they kept Roy. He does not seem to fit the club's philosophy going forward. *

*I've lurked here since NESV purchased the club. This is a great forum, I am grateful for it. Lifelong Red Sox fan, who had been looking for an EPL team to support after the World Cup. This was one topic I figured I could contribute on.

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Re: The John W Henry Interview - Part Two
« Reply #201 on: November 17, 2010, 08:38:01 AM »
Much has been made of some of the similarities between the Red Sox at the time Henry bought them and Liverpool at the time Henry bought them (stadium, etc.). The manager is one more example. As a lifelong Red Sox fan, the single greatest mistake management made under Henry was letting Grady Little (the manager in charge when Henry took over) stay in his position. It cost them a World Series appearance (not hyperbole, Little was directly culpable for the team's loss in game seven of the 2003 ALCS). I would be very surprised if they kept Roy. He does not seem to fit the club's philosophy going forward. *

*I've lurked here since NESV purchased the club. This is a great forum, I am grateful for it. Lifelong Red Sox fan, who had been looking for an EPL team to support after the World Cup. This was one topic I figured I could contribute on.

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Re: The John W Henry Interview - Part Two
« Reply #202 on: November 17, 2010, 12:04:07 PM »
Thanks for making these insightful interviews happen.

I feel uncomfortable about this bit:
Blaming the manager or any one particular player is simply wrong

If Roy's accusation about Rafa's relationship with Kenny is untrue, then he's a self-serving liar. I fear that he told Henry more lies to shift the blame from himself:
1) that the players' non-commitment is to be blamed for the poor results - is this the reason Henry used strong words to say in public that there may be players who do not want to stay in the club and that they are free to leave? If Roy told this lie and caused Henry to make those comments, I would be pissed off with those accusations if I were one of the players.

2) that the players he inherited from Rafa are sub-standard and he needs to rebuild the team. By deliberately playing them out of position, he made it look as if his assessment is correct. It's easy to make Henry believe him because he is new to the sport and Henry may not be aware of the importance of tactics and players' positions in a match. I wonder whether Damien has had any conversations with Roy about players' strengths and team tactics, but I find it strange that he too came out to give his vocal support to Roy. This is happening while Kenny is left out of the consultation process (it appears to be so). Henry probably had to answer questions regarding his opinion on the manager's performance, but what about Damien? Did Roy pull the wool over Damien's eyes as well? They would look bad if they sack Roy later after saying that we cannot blame him, wouldn't they?

I'm afraid Henry doesn't know the extent of the damage if he doesn't address the issues quickly. Alright, call me a pessimist.

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Re: The John W Henry Interview - Part Two
« Reply #203 on: November 17, 2010, 12:53:52 PM »
They would look bad if they sack Roy later after saying that we cannot blame him, wouldn't they?

There have been plenty of owners of other clubs who have said they back the manager completely on Saturday and fired him on Monday. It only makes them look bad if they fired the wrong fellow.

I'm afraid Henry doesn't know the extent of the damage if he doesn't address the issues quickly. Alright, call me a pessimist.

You're a pessimist.  :P  (But I understand why).

The one thing I see posted a lot (a repeated meme, if you will  ;) ) is that there will be some apocalyptic catastrophe for the club if Roy Hodgson stays for the year, or even beyond the next game. It's also implied that we will somehow never recover.

Roy Hodgson's tenure here - even if season long - will cause us some problems, but certainly not irrevocable ones unless he gets us relegated. The biggest damage to the rebuild we need was firing Rafa. That done, the rebuild will (in my opinion) take 3-5 years at least. (In that FSV's target milestone ought to be a full title challenge, probably winnable, in 2013/4 and a repeat and CL title within two years of the first). Whoever is in charge, that means our very best players will have to make decisions on their future this year. I suspect they will decide to leave whoever is manager - and it will only be Mr Henry and his CEO that may change their minds with an appointment to the manager's post that will knock their socks off.

My heart wishes every day that I will wake up and see Mr Hodgson has resigned. My head tells me that firing him would cause more problems than it is worth right now, simply because the replacement Fenway SV wants to build our dynasty is working for someone else right now. I don't see Mr Henry being a populist. Even if our stars decide to leave because of Mr Hodgson, the new manager will wish to rebuild with new players anyway. This latter is not what I would wish - and from a business perspective, would probably cost FSV more in the short term, but the club will not collapse.

LFC has survived the most appalling circumstances ever to face a football club in the past. And triumphed despite those tragedies. To think someone of the limited capability of Roy Hodgson presents anything other than a short-term irritation, a scratch we cannot yet itch, is hyperbole to my way of thinking.

However, feel free to call me an optimist.  ;D

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Re: The John W Henry Interview - Part Two
« Reply #204 on: November 17, 2010, 02:20:51 PM »
Thanks for trying to cheer me up  :wave

I think I found the answer to one of my own questions:
Quote from:  link=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/9194045.stm date=
"We will do what is right for the long term. What is right for the long term can be something we do in January. We have a pretty good idea of what we would like to do and we have identified targets."

Comolli said Liverpool manager Roy Hodgson would have the "final say" on transfers.

"Roy will have to be comfortable with all targets we bring to him," he said, adding that they had a good working relationship and knew each other before the Frenchman's arrival at Anfield.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/9194045.stm

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I certainly hope you're right, mate. Optimists and Pessimists walk through the storm. YNWA.
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Re: The John W Henry Interview - Part Two
« Reply #205 on: November 17, 2010, 02:28:12 PM »
Thanks for trying to cheer me up  :wave

I certainly hope you're right, mate. Optimists and Pessimists walk through the storm. YNWA.

  :thumbup You're welcome. We all need to look after each other in these dark days.

I won't be surprised if you need to cheer me up later on if I watch the West Ham match....  :o

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Re: The John W Henry Interview - Part Two
« Reply #206 on: November 17, 2010, 03:51:26 PM »
Much has been made of some of the similarities between the Red Sox at the time Henry bought them and Liverpool at the time Henry bought them (stadium, etc.). The manager is one more example. As a lifelong Red Sox fan, the single greatest mistake management made under Henry was letting Grady Little (the manager in charge when Henry took over) stay in his position. It cost them a World Series appearance (not hyperbole, Little was directly culpable for the team's loss in game seven of the 2003 ALCS). I would be very surprised if they kept Roy. He does not seem to fit the club's philosophy going forward. *

Just to clarify, the Red Sox had another manager in place prior to Little  (Joe Kerrigan) when Henry bought the team in the winter prior to the 2002 season. Kerrigan was then fired by the club just as Spring Training began, and Little was hired. So Henry has no aversion to making a change right away; in Kerrigan's case, it needed to be done, as he was promoted to the role with no prior managing experience toward the end of the 2001 season to replace fired manager Jimy Williams. I doubt it was a difficult decision for Henry to make.

Obviously hiring Little to replace Kerrigan ultimately didn't work out either (1918 isn't kidding about Little's culpability in the 2003 playoffs), but this history may be informing Henry's approach to Hodgson. Firing him is one thing, but the key is finding the right replacement.

If I had to guess, I bet Hodgson will be sacked before the end of the season, but Henry is waiting a bit to let things calm down from the hoopla over the club's acquisition. The impression of a stable and unified front office and manager is a relief in itself compared to the prior regime, and that buys Henry some time to learn more about the sport and the philosophies of who he'll be working with.

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Re: The John W Henry Interview - Part Two
« Reply #207 on: November 17, 2010, 07:24:40 PM »
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Re: The John W Henry Interview - Part Two
« Reply #208 on: November 18, 2010, 10:18:08 AM »
Money laundering is the process of disgusising the proceeds of crime and introducing it back into the banking system unnoticed.

I don't think there is anything in the rules to prohibit an owner's company sponsoring the football club he owns.

Money laundering is also putting huge amounts of cash into one business from another business in order to distort the balance sheet. Which is what an over inflated sponsorship fee would be.

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Re: The John W Henry Interview - Part Two
« Reply #209 on: November 18, 2010, 10:19:44 PM »
Much has been made of some of the similarities between the Red Sox at the time Henry bought them and Liverpool at the time Henry bought them (stadium, etc.). The manager is one more example. As a lifelong Red Sox fan, the single greatest mistake management made under Henry was letting Grady Little (the manager in charge when Henry took over) stay in his position. It cost them a World Series appearance (not hyperbole, Little was directly culpable for the team's loss in game seven of the 2003 ALCS). I would be very surprised if they kept Roy. He does not seem to fit the club's philosophy going forward. *

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Thankyou for that and welcome but what I really mean is did they publicly back him like they have done Roy or did they keep quiet on the subject when the press asked questions. I do understand if you don't remember it was 7 years ago but I'm clutching at straws. It's all I've got. 
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Re: The John W Henry Interview - Part Two
« Reply #210 on: November 22, 2010, 08:33:50 PM »
Thankyou for that and welcome but what I really mean is did they publicly back him like they have done Roy or did they keep quiet on the subject when the press asked questions. I do understand if you don't remember it was 7 years ago but I'm clutching at straws. It's all I've got.

If you're referring to whether Henry publicly backed Little after the 2003 ALCS fiasco, no, he did not. In fact, he's been quoted as saying he wanted to fire Little during the bottom of the 8th inning of Game 7 of that series (when Little's poor-decision making was rearing its ugly head). Not just, "This guy is so gone after this," Henry literally wanted to walk on the field and go into the dugout to fire Little in the middle of game, in front of 55,000 Yankee fans.

Boston was eliminated that night and their season ended, which also just happened to be when Little's 2 year contract expired (the one he signed upon being hired by Henry after Henry bought the team prior to the 2002 season). It had never been extended during those 2 seasons... I suspect he might not have been back short of winning the World Series that year*, even if he never made that Game 7 blunder; Little's managing style/philosophy was very different from Henry's and GM Theo Epstein's. So Henry was never in the position of having to give him a vote of confidence; the season was over, Little's contract expired, the Sox had no intentions of renewing it and that was that.

The Red Sox hired their current manager, Terry Francona, six weeks later and he's been with the team ever since.

*I don't recall Henry or the club commenting much on Little's contract status during the 2003 season, when speculation among fans about a possible extension would have been more prevalent (as opposed to immediately following the 2003 ALCS defeat, when it became a forgone conclusion Little wouldn't be back). Going into 2003, I think it was clear the club felt that how he would manage that year's team -- both in the regular season and in the playoffs -- would determine his future in Boston, and the fans were mostly in agreement with that. Unfortunately Little made the decision easy for Henry/Epstein.

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Re: The John W Henry Interview - Part Two
« Reply #211 on: November 23, 2010, 06:00:22 PM »
waiting is key here. We will soon know in January if his words ring true. I for one, tend to believe he has pashion for our team and 'soccer' in general. He comes across as sports loving person who is prepared to  weave his way into any vernture in which he is involved and - crucially - actually put something in as opposed to look at what he can take out.

Outstanding questions and dare i say it, in places outstanding answers.

All we can do is wait and see what deeds follow.



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Re: The John W Henry Interview - Part Two
« Reply #212 on: November 24, 2010, 03:19:46 AM »
To chime in with what Rip is saying and to clarify my last post, I would think Henry is leery of keeping Hodgson around. It was evident from the start with Little that he had no intention of even looking at, much less using, the information Epstein was giving him. He should have been fired a few months into 2002. He was not. It cost Henry and the Red Sox dearly. Not to get too technical and boring about baseball (but I think its appropriate given Henry's history, the hiring of Comolli, and Hodgson) but this is best illustrated by looking at something that has been used in sabremetrics for a long time, Pythagorean record. Its based on runs scored and allowed. The Red Sox's Pythagorean record in 2002 (i.e., what the record "should" have been) that year was 100-62. They actually won 93 games under Little. That result was no fluke. Little was abysmally terrible and went out of his way to ignore what Henry and Epstein told him. He should have been fired in 2002. He was plus 1 to Pythagorean in 2003, but managed to outdo himself by single handedly destroying the team in the playoffs. He was allowed to kill the team by ignoring Pedro's pitch count in game 7 in 2003. Contrast that to Francona (the man hired to replace Little). Francona has consistently won MORE games than predicted by the Pythagorean record:

2004 +2
2005 +5
2006 +5
2007 -5 (The drop was not on Francona, the Red Sox were the best team in baseball and won the World Series. The Red Sox blatantly rested players at the end of the season. They also stuck with players (Gagne) they thought might help in the playoffs which cost them a number of games at the end of the regular season).
2008 even
2009 +2
2010 +1

I think its safe to say that the lesson (painfully) was learned about the importance of having the field manager on board with the rest of management.

* Sorry for the long post, but I wanted to cheer up Baz and try to give some background on what Henry might be thinking regarding Roy. As I said before, but didn't elaborate on why, I would be shocked if they kept Roy past this season. I'm new to this footy thing, but Roy reminds me of Little. Liverpool has suffered some truly brutal defeats under his watch that should not happen. Not everyone can be the Special One, but there is a reason Jose loses a home game a decade while Roy is busy losing to Northampton and Blackpool. Henry's not dumb but he's probably wary of making too many changes too soon. Probably better to wait until a suitable candidate is available. Maybe Henry will shock me and keep Hodgson past this year, but I would not bet anything of value on it.

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Re: The John W Henry Interview - Part Two
« Reply #213 on: November 24, 2010, 07:39:31 AM »
Excellent post, 1918, thank you.

Gives me more insight into the way Mr Henry may be thinking - and encouragement too.

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Re: The John W Henry Interview - Part Two
« Reply #214 on: November 24, 2010, 09:40:04 PM »
I wonder if [renaming NESV] was done to placate all the Red Sox fans who were worrying that their involvement in Liverpool may detract from the work they're doing over there.

I doubt it. As a Red Sox fan first and foremost, I think there is very little concern among my compatriots about this. Most Sox fans trust Mr. Henry completely at this stage. Obviously he and his group have their critics, but for the most part everyone feels lucky to have Henry as the owner of their club. I imagine the change to "Fenway" was less about being Red Sox oriented and more about being less geographically specific.

I certainly do not believe it was meant to make it sound like Liverpool or anyone else is a subsidiary of a baseball park. "Fenway" evokes very strong feelings among baseball fans, even those who are not supporters of the Red Sox. By almost all (not by Yankee fans, surely) it is seen as one of the most hallowed grounds in the sport, along with Wrigley Field in Chicago. After those two stadia, both built almost a hundred years ago, all the other parks are relatively new. Nowadays most date from the 80's and 90's, or are even more recent. So certainly Henry et al did not see it as 'just' a baseball park, but as an institution that means something. I can imagine why it could seem odd, but believe me I am sure they meant no slight by it.

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Re: The John W Henry Interview - Part Two
« Reply #215 on: November 24, 2010, 10:10:49 PM »
If you're referring to whether Henry publicly backed Little after the 2003 ALCS fiasco, no, he did not. In fact, he's been quoted as saying he wanted to fire Little during the bottom of the 8th inning of Game 7 of that series (when Little's poor-decision making was rearing its ugly head). Not just, "This guy is so gone after this," Henry literally wanted to walk on the field and go into the dugout to fire Little in the middle of game, in front of 55,000 Yankee fans.

Boston was eliminated that night and their season ended, which also just happened to be when Little's 2 year contract expired (the one he signed upon being hired by Henry after Henry bought the team prior to the 2002 season). It had never been extended during those 2 seasons... I suspect he might not have been back short of winning the World Series that year*, even if he never made that Game 7 blunder; Little's managing style/philosophy was very different from Henry's and GM Theo Epstein's. So Henry was never in the position of having to give him a vote of confidence; the season was over, Little's contract expired, the Sox had no intentions of renewing it and that was that.

The Red Sox hired their current manager, Terry Francona, six weeks later and he's been with the team ever since.

*I don't recall Henry or the club commenting much on Little's contract status during the 2003 season, when speculation among fans about a possible extension would have been more prevalent (as opposed to immediately following the 2003 ALCS defeat, when it became a forgone conclusion Little wouldn't be back). Going into 2003, I think it was clear the club felt that how he would manage that year's team -- both in the regular season and in the playoffs -- would determine his future in Boston, and the fans were mostly in agreement with that. Unfortunately Little made the decision easy for Henry/Epstein.

I do remember everything you're saying here, but I believe that during the 2003 season there were some dreaded "votes of confidence" here and there for Little, much to the outrage of those fans who could see Little's ineptitude despite the winning record that year...but I might just be imagining that. I can't think of anything specific.

I think the very biggest difference between the Hodgson situation and the situation when NESV bought the Sox is that they purchased the Red Sox in the offseason. If they had purchased them during the summer, I doubt they would have canned Kerrigan as fast as they did, just because they would have wanted the team to have some stability. If they had bought LFC in the summer, I don't think we'd see Hodgson here now. It is just completely out of Henry's character to keep a manager around who he didn't hire, and who he doesn't trust is of the same mind as him. That said, there are wrinkles here based on the fact that Henry doesn't personally know football as well as he knows baseball.

On the other hand, it would also be completely out of his character (in my opinion) for him to come out and publicly condemn Hodgson during the season, that is unless the decision was absolutely made, and they replaced him the next day. Henry is a pragmatist. He isn't going to undermine his manager until the very day he's gone because there would be nothing gained in doing so (probably even then he'd praise him, if only to make the next manager feel secure that Henry isn't the type to speak out against him). In fact I speculate that he'd even go out of his way to make Roy feel safe, if Henry thought that would help win.

The upshot of my ramblings is: read nothing into Henry's statements of support for Hodgson. I think they are completely meaningless (either for or against him).

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« Reply #216 on: November 25, 2010, 01:01:36 AM »
I doubt it. As a Red Sox fan first and foremost, I think there is very little concern among my compatriots about this. Most Sox fans trust Mr. Henry completely at this stage. Obviously he and his group have their critics, but for the most part everyone feels lucky to have Henry as the owner of their club. I imagine the change to "Fenway" was less about being Red Sox oriented and more about being less geographically specific.

I certainly do not believe it was meant to make it sound like Liverpool or anyone else is a subsidiary of a baseball park. "Fenway" evokes very strong feelings among baseball fans, even those who are not supporters of the Red Sox. By almost all (not by Yankee fans, surely) it is seen as one of the most hallowed grounds in the sport, along with Wrigley Field in Chicago. After those two stadia, both built almost a hundred years ago, all the other parks are relatively new. Nowadays most date from the 80's and 90's, or are even more recent. So certainly Henry et al did not see it as 'just' a baseball park, but as an institution that means something. I can imagine why it could seem odd, but believe me I am sure they meant no slight by it.

I think tubby's response was due to me saying that I had a twinge of unhappiness in them changing the name to FSG to NESV.

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Re: The John W Henry Interview - Part Two
« Reply #217 on: November 25, 2010, 11:48:59 PM »
henry just tweeted this topic link, haha maybe he reads the rest of rawk?

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« Reply #218 on: November 25, 2010, 11:54:45 PM »
Henry must read Rawk. He has just tweeted this link.

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« Reply #219 on: November 26, 2010, 12:59:55 AM »
henry just tweeted this topic link, haha maybe he reads the rest of rawk?
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« Reply #220 on: November 26, 2010, 01:10:32 AM »
Echo the last three but fuck me sideways! Henrys tweeting ( still not sure what that means ) a link from RAWK!!!!

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« Reply #221 on: November 26, 2010, 01:25:28 AM »
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Re: The John W Henry Interview - Part Two
« Reply #222 on: November 26, 2010, 10:01:30 PM »
I tweeted a question to John Henry yesterday at 21.15

"@John_W_Henry are you aware how despised #hodgsonout is by the fans. imagine anfield when the fans are happy it ROCKS #lfc #ynwa"

Two hours later he tweeted the links to this and the part 1 thread. 

From this I think we can make the logical assumption that John Henry, and Tom Werner and others are, if not by lurking in the forums themselves, at least getting some staffers/colleagues to do so.  As a result we can also therefore assume the following:

That they are fully informed about the majority of views on the Manager
That they are fully aware of the feelings about the way Rafa was dealt with (both sides)
That they fully understand the bafflement and indignation of fans over the treatment of certain players
that they are completely aware of our views on both the British Media treatment of LFC, and of the respective treatments of Rafa and Hodgson
That they are equally well informed of the alleged roles of certain players in the undermining of Rafa

I know that John Henry also follows This is Anfield, Spirit of Shankly and Save Liverpool FC on twitter.  This is clearly a man who wishes to be informed about the club he has bought.

The way I see it is this.  If NESV as an organisation, and John Henry as an individual are that well informed, I think we can also safely assume therefore, that they are able to realise who are the WUMs and morons and who are the informed, intelligent and observant writers and commentators on LFC. which can only give us hope. 

Like many I log on each evening (no interweb allowed at work for security reasons), hoping to see that Roy has finally been sacked or "reached a mutual agreement in the interests of the club".  Like many, I am constantly disappointed.  However, being sensible about it, I have to assume based on the reasoning above, that sonner or later NESV will make changes to the management, will do their utmost to keep hold of vital and loyal players, will resolve some of the player power struggles going on (I think we all know what I mean), will come up with a viable (and perhaps surprisingly sentimental) stadium solution, and will give us a club to be proud of again.

All the information we have about John Henry and NESV is that they quietly go about their business, making well informed and intelligent decisions and always try to build for success.  Given that, and my points above I have a building admiration for the fact that they haven't acted in a knee jerk fashion, but are biding their time, gathering information and quietly making the right decisions at the right time.

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Re: The John W Henry Interview - Part Two
« Reply #223 on: November 27, 2010, 01:02:52 PM »
A simple question, but after reading about Henry's interest in metrics etc , do we feel it is right for the Owners of any club to be so heavily involved with the rationale behind the potential purchases of players for the team ?
I mean he obviously strongly believes in this system and to be honest I dont confess to know anything about it myself but this seems to  be the mantra filtering down from the top to Comolli.
I may have read this all wrong so forgive my ignorance if I have but it does concern me.
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Re: The John W Henry Interview - Part Two
« Reply #224 on: November 27, 2010, 02:23:13 PM »
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Re: The John W Henry Interview - Part Two
« Reply #225 on: November 28, 2010, 12:45:14 PM »
A simple question, but after reading about Henry's interest in metrics etc , do we feel it is right for the Owners of any club to be so heavily involved with the rationale behind the potential purchases of players for the team ?

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Re: The John W Henry Interview - Part Two
« Reply #226 on: November 30, 2010, 02:12:25 PM »
so where are they then...?

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Re: The John W Henry Interview - Part Two
« Reply #227 on: November 30, 2010, 03:04:23 PM »
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Re: The John W Henry Interview - Part Two
« Reply #228 on: December 11, 2010, 03:43:51 PM »
It Appears that we have a professional in charge of our football club not like the last two comics and liars. Great read lets hope they stick to their word.

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Re: The John W Henry Interview - Part Two
« Reply #229 on: December 11, 2010, 11:10:26 PM »
henry just tweeted this topic link, haha maybe he reads the rest of rawk?

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« Reply #230 on: December 12, 2010, 03:29:58 AM »
check who he follows on twitter? He appears to be one of us or at least wants to be

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