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Roy apologizies to Rafa
« on: November 3, 2010, 04:33:49 pm »
Just on SSN in the Napoli pre match press confrence.

Good for him I guess, glad he isn't talking s**te for the first time since being appointed.

Here is the actual report of what he said  :wave

Roy Hodgson apologises to predecessor Rafael Benítez over Liverpool criticism

• Manager backs down from criticisms of Benítez
• 'I didn't mean to be in any way critical or negative'

Wednesday 3 November 2010 16.35 GMT

The Liverpool manager Roy Hodgson has apologised for any offence caused to his predecessor Rafael Benítez for criticising the state of the club when he took over.

Last week Hodgson bemoaned the number of "expensive failures" at Anfield when he arrived, prompting the Spaniard to hit back, saying: "He's talking about things that he doesn't know.

"Some people cannot see a priest on a mountain of sugar. Instead of talking about flips and flops, he has to concentrate on his job, try to do his best and not talk about the level of his players or the new players."

Hodgson today tried to calm the situation, saying: "I totally agree with him that every manager needs to work with his own club.

"If I have upset him by saying something which I certainly didn't mean to be in any way critical or negative about his work at the club, then I would happily apologise because there was never any intention to do that.

"As far as I am concerned I work at Liverpool and do my best for Liverpool, and he will work at Inter and do his best for Inter.

"I have no comments to make about other people's opinions – I'll allow them to make them and in this case I'll accept them if that's what they want to be."


http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/nov/03/roy-hodgson-rafael-benitez-liverpool?CMP=twt_gu
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Re: Roy apologizies to Rafa
« Reply #1 on: November 3, 2010, 04:35:32 pm »

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Re: Roy apologizies to Rafa
« Reply #2 on: November 3, 2010, 04:35:33 pm »
Just on SSN in the Napoli pre match press confrence.

Good for him I guess, glad he isn't talking s**te for the first time since being appointed.

Well post what he said in full when a report comes out  :wave

alas...someone else starting a thread with info we've all known about for an hour..... ::)  :butt
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Re: Roy apologizies to Rafa
« Reply #3 on: November 3, 2010, 04:35:49 pm »
Expected. No bottle. Just keep your mouth shut in the first place Roy.
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Re: Roy apologizies to Rafa
« Reply #4 on: November 3, 2010, 04:36:12 pm »
Meeting with JWH yesterday, apology today.  Coincidence or has someone just been read the riot act?
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Re: Roy apologizies to Rafa
« Reply #5 on: November 3, 2010, 04:37:26 pm »
Meeting with JWH yesterday, apology today.  Coincidence or has someone just been read the riot act?

Definitely my thinking. Someone said "end it now and end it quickly..... you have more important things to concentrate on , if you understand me."

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Re: Roy apologizies to Rafa
« Reply #6 on: November 3, 2010, 04:38:33 pm »
Tail between legs?

He's giving off that vibe quite alot at the moment.

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Re: Roy apologizies to Rafa
« Reply #7 on: November 3, 2010, 04:39:21 pm »
Meeting with JWH yesterday, apology today.  Coincidence or has someone just been read the riot act?

So that will be twice this week he's had his arse handed to him.
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Re: Roy apologizies to Rafa
« Reply #8 on: November 3, 2010, 04:39:21 pm »
Already here mate.....

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=265847.msg7650812;topicseen#new

Fair enough mate, although I feel this needed its own thread instead of a post that will soon be lost in the shuffle.

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Re: Roy apologizies to Rafa
« Reply #9 on: November 3, 2010, 04:40:54 pm »
He doesn't mention Kenny, which was the main reason why Rafa chose to respond to Hodgson's comments, and as such SSN edited Rafa's response to make the issue all about the squad of players he left behind and paint it in such a way to make Hodgson look like the victim and Rafa as some "bizarre", unhinged bully. I bet you'll have ex-players and pundits trotting out the same old crap about how poor the state of the squad Rafa left behind is and that Hodgson was correct to be critical of it.

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Re: Roy apologizies to Rafa
« Reply #10 on: November 3, 2010, 04:42:20 pm »
Meeting with JWH yesterday, apology today.  Coincidence or has someone just been read the riot act?
No, don't think it was the meeting - he does it all the time.  Says something and if it upsets to many people, takes it back a couple days later. Winds me up that. Either stand by what you've said or don't fucking open your mouth.
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Re: Roy apologizies to Rafa
« Reply #11 on: November 3, 2010, 04:46:49 pm »
well hopefully rafa will stop talking about liverpool at every oppurtunity. who was right does not matter. i like the idea that it was HENRY that said stop it but it may also have been roy as he has bigger issues than the previous manager. our club has been a circus for atleast 3 years with things that should have been private in the media, some of this had to come out but i would like to get back to results being in the press and very little else

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Re: Roy apologizies to Rafa
« Reply #12 on: November 3, 2010, 04:46:52 pm »
Fair enough mate, although I feel this needed its own thread instead of a post that will soon be lost in the shuffle.

Mods can lock this if they view it otherwise.

I think that it's a significant new development that deserves a thread of its own.  I'd stopped following the other thread and would have missed this otherwise.
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Re: Roy apologizies to Rafa
« Reply #13 on: November 3, 2010, 04:53:05 pm »
A rare decent article from Football365:

 

Although there is an obvious logic in under-pressure Liverpool manager Roy Hodgson drawing attention to the deficiencies of the previous Anfield incumbent, prolonging the recent war of words with Rafael Benitez will only serve to undermine his own position.

Judge me after ten league games, said Hodgson after Liverpool's disappointing start to the season. Ten games in and Liverpool are 13th, 13 points off top spot and considerably closer to the drop zone. No wonder Hodgson has seen fit to place the blame for Liverpool's ultimately depressing season squarely on his predecessor's shoulders - particularly in a week when he will meet the club's new owners for talks on the future.

Hodgson's reaction is a natural one - but he is treading a fine line. Although he may well have some pertinent points to make about the previous managerial regime, complaining about them ad nauseum can only carry you so far. Hodgson has to be careful about the message he is trying to peddle - as he is in danger at times of sounding defeatist. He may have inherited a difficult position at a club in crisis, but he got the position on the basis that he would be able to make a change. With new owners watching very closely, Hodgson cannot afford to give the impression that he cannot cope.

Hodgson also has to be mindful that many Liverpool fans still revere Rafael Benitez and have been underwhelmed by the club's choice of successor. Hodgson's carping about Benitez always runs the risk of raising their heckles at a delicate time. He must also be mindful that his criticism will only draw a scathing and potentially damaging reaction from Benitez. Many will argue that the Spaniard should be focusing on Inter Milan, but he nevertheless has the right to respond to Hodgson's barbs. Benitez, despite his exit, enjoyed some notable successes at Anfield and in his overall career to date, so Hodgson would do well to avoid any slanging match that ends with fans and media focusing on a comparison of managerial records.

In a related point, Hodgson should also be aware that drawing attention to the contentious issue of Benitez's record in the transfer market is a dangerous game for a manager who has spent the guts of £10million on Paul Konchesky and Christian Poulsen.

So, having instigated the spat for his own ends, Hodgson would do well to see that it ends here. Benitez may well be casting a shadow over Hodgson's position at Anfield, but in the end, NESV and John Henry are not in a position to sack the Spaniard.
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Re: Roy apologizies to Rafa
« Reply #14 on: November 3, 2010, 04:53:08 pm »
Its not an apology but its an ok responce. He has backed off and maybe he will talk more sensibly in future...
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Re: Roy apologizies to Rafa
« Reply #15 on: November 3, 2010, 04:57:30 pm »
Just loving the prospect of all the british press having to publish an apology from an englishman to a spaniard they so despised. Ha. Fuckin awesome. But I'm sure they'll put a spin to it and say only a classy, revered and noble Englishman like Roy could bring an end to a bitter feud with a humble apology.
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Re: Roy apologizies to Rafa
« Reply #16 on: November 3, 2010, 04:58:53 pm »
Good article until this paragraph.  I would say that now that Comolli has been hired, NESV are in an even better position to sack Roy.  The decision will be made by Comolli, who will be the buffer.
 

A mate says that Comolli is good mates with Deschamps. Could we see those two tag team it?
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Re: Roy apologizies to Rafa
« Reply #17 on: November 3, 2010, 04:59:37 pm »
Good article until this paragraph.  I would say that now that Comolli has been hired, NESV are in an even better position to sack Roy.  The decision will be made by Comolli, who will be the buffer.

It says "sack the Spaniard". They're actually referring to the fact that Rafa no longer works for the club...

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Re: Roy apologizies to Rafa
« Reply #18 on: November 3, 2010, 04:59:45 pm »
Good article until this paragraph.  I would say that now that Comolli has been hired, NESV are in an even better position to sack Roy.  The decision will be made by Comolli, who will be the buffer.

Sorry if I'm missing the point of your post here, but the article says they aren't in a position to sack the Spaniard, not Roy.

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Re: Roy apologizies to Rafa
« Reply #19 on: November 3, 2010, 05:00:53 pm »
Just loving the prospect of all the british press having publish an apology from an englishman to a spaniard they so despised. Ha. Fuckin awesome. But I'm sure they'll put a spin to it and say only a classy, revered and noble Englishman like Roy could bring an end to a bitter feud with a humble apology.

true that....watch the fcking spin come out....

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Re: Roy apologizies to Rafa
« Reply #20 on: November 3, 2010, 05:01:22 pm »
"If I have upset him by saying something which I certainly didn't mean to be in any way critical or negative about his work at the club, then I would happily apologise because there was never any intention to do that.

That's a Non Apology. Lawyers use them quite a bit.

If I have upset him, then I would apologise. In other words, I really don't think I did anything that merits an apology.

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Re: Roy apologizies to Rafa
« Reply #21 on: November 3, 2010, 05:03:33 pm »
I think that it's a significant new development that deserves a thread of its own.  I'd stopped following the other thread and would have missed this otherwise.

Same here, I didn't know about it until I saw this thread. I don't get why people want everything in the same thread all the time, sometimes significant developments get lost for most people because of it. Anyway, for whatever reason Hodgson has done this, I'm glad he has. The last thing that we need is a continued spat between Roy Hodgson and Rafa Benitez.
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Re: Roy apologizies to Rafa
« Reply #22 on: November 3, 2010, 05:07:42 pm »
Roy cant win with some people, ripped to shreds for having a go, and now ripped to shreds for backing down!

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Re: Roy apologizies to Rafa
« Reply #23 on: November 3, 2010, 05:12:24 pm »
roy has done the right thing.

draw a line under it and move on.


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Re: Roy apologizies to Rafa
« Reply #24 on: November 3, 2010, 05:13:23 pm »
Roy cant win with some people, ripped to shreds for having a go, and now ripped to shreds for backing down!

Aint that the truth?

I for one welcome his 'apology' or 'statement' or whatever you want to call it. Surely it's a positive?
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Re: Roy apologizies to Rafa
« Reply #25 on: November 3, 2010, 05:17:12 pm »
Meeting with JWH yesterday, apology today.  Coincidence or has someone just been read the riot act?

Haha, there. You nailed it.

anybody have any details about said meeting?

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Re: Roy apologizies to Rafa
« Reply #26 on: November 3, 2010, 05:18:26 pm »
It's no apology, but it's a step forward. Now for a longer step forward .....STFU Roy.

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Re: Roy apologizies to Rafa
« Reply #27 on: November 3, 2010, 05:20:21 pm »
Roy shouldn't have said any of that crap in the first place.  :-X

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Re: Roy apologizies to Rafa
« Reply #28 on: November 3, 2010, 05:21:42 pm »
Some classic chin-stroking from Roy when he got to the 'then I would happily apologise' bit. Didn't appear comfortable with it at all.
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Re: Roy apologizies to Rafa
« Reply #29 on: November 3, 2010, 05:22:29 pm »
Aint that the truth?

I for one welcome his 'apology' or 'statement' or whatever you want to call it. Surely it's a positive?
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Re: Roy apologizies to Rafa
« Reply #30 on: November 3, 2010, 05:22:51 pm »
I think that it's a significant new development that deserves a thread of its own.  I'd stopped following the other thread and would have missed this otherwise.

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Re: Roy apologizies to Rafa
« Reply #31 on: November 3, 2010, 05:24:00 pm »
fair play. maybe we'll see an improvement in his attitude.

wouldn't mind betting mr henry and co told him to sort out his attitude in press confrences and in turn to do like rafa said, concentrate on his own problems and forget about blaming anybody else.

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Re: Roy apologizies to Rafa
« Reply #32 on: November 3, 2010, 05:24:11 pm »
That's a Non Apology. Lawyers use them quite a bit.

If I have upset him, then I would apologise. In other words, I really don't think I did anything that merits an apology.

My thoughts exactly Corky. You know when your missus moans at you for something you've said or done and your response is "Well I apologise if you took it that way" which translates as "I didn't fucking mean it like that, and I'm not saying sorry if you took it the wrong way." That's Roy Hodgson that is.
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Re: Roy apologizies to Rafa
« Reply #33 on: November 3, 2010, 05:24:27 pm »
If our manager isnt hard spoken, how can the players take his word seriously? And hence this terrible position.

I doubt if any other manager in the WHOLE world would have apologized having said something like this.

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Re: Roy apologizies to Rafa
« Reply #34 on: November 3, 2010, 05:24:43 pm »
Meeting with JWH yesterday, apology today.  Coincidence or has someone just been read the riot act?

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Re: Roy apologizies to Rafa
« Reply #35 on: November 3, 2010, 05:24:56 pm »
Roy was clearly bollocked at the meeting yesterday.
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Re: Roy apologizies to Rafa
« Reply #36 on: November 3, 2010, 05:29:16 pm »
Anybody though how Roy got very firm instructions on how to speak to the media, perhaps even a written speach?

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Re: Roy apologizies to Rafa
« Reply #37 on: November 3, 2010, 05:30:55 pm »
Anybody though how Roy got very firm instructions on how to speak to the media, perhaps even a written speach?

He has had 35 years of experience especially with the Scandinavian leagues. He knows better. Just because his system isnt working now, he wont change the system because he has had 35 years of experience.

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Re: Roy apologizies to Rafa
« Reply #38 on: November 3, 2010, 05:31:34 pm »
If our manager isnt hard spoken, how can the players take his word seriously? And hence this terrible position.

I doubt if any other manager in the WHOLE world would have apologized having said something like this.

I'm not sure he had any choice. Looked a bit non-plussed that he even had to do it. I'd be willing to bet someone further up the food chain has had a word with him about it. And remember it comes right after a meeting with the big boss himself.
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Re: Roy apologizies to Rafa
« Reply #39 on: November 3, 2010, 05:33:07 pm »
That's a Non Apology. Lawyers use them quite a bit.

If I have upset him, then I would apologise. In other words, I really don't think I did anything that merits an apology.
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