edit** Just realised after completing my post that it might not be so relevant for this thread!
Probably should have created a new topic about
liverpool fans, how do we feel about turning on our manager.
If there are any kindly mods out there, with plenty of time on their hands, could you shift this to a new thread?
(I don't have enough posts to make my own new thread!)
I'll keep those post here in the meantime seeing as I can't find another suitable thread, would like to share it with fellow fans nonetheless
He is killing our team for sure.
Roy is a nice guy, yes, but he is not right for the job.
Roy is a nice guy, but he's killing the team, and he's slowly but surely killing us fans.
You want a Roy story, here's one.
The Day ol' Roy finally pushed a Liverpool fan over to the Dark Side.
And this isn't one of those story/ sequel movies that last years. This is a story, that lasted 3 years. And Ol'Roy wasn't even the leading character, but he had a part to play. Because it was only when Roy's introduction was done and dusted, only when he stood on stage and flourished his feathers for all to see, only then did ol' Roy reveal the secret behind the secret.
The secret that had been speculated on for decades, whispered in the cold alleys by those that wander in the night, the night wanderers.
The Night wanderers, or as we know them, the men sent by their women at 1am to buy groceries from the 24/7 kiosk down the road. Secrets...secrets about Liverpool. Long ago it was once said, that even Liverpool fans had a limit when supporting their managers. "Through think and thin" they would bellow, "never walk alone" would they chant. But even among their midst were those who carried the burden of their secret.
For it was foretold that one day, Liverpool fans, would turn their backs on a Liverpool Manager.
But this day would not arrive without a specific sequence of events.
"Bullocks", I would say to my uncle when first told of this, "scriddliumptiously" and "lying Whizpopper" (for I was in the midst of reading BFG with of Roald Dahl)
Events, what events could possibly happen at Liverpool without anyone in the world noticing!
And so, when a Sour double wind blew in from the West during a thunderous storm, and lingered for three years, before disappearing as menacing as it had arrived, there were but a few that noticed, and none dared say. For there was plenty of rejoicement, and merriment all around. Our previous Vanquishing Knight had returned from whence he didth cometh, err fromth, in the EU. For he had a legal permit, and another kingdom beckoned him. And so it fell, that the round table of Liverpool, tainted and tarnished as it decayed to become, was left alone, to beckon up all manner of darkness, into what was once holy.
"A Gentlemen", they gushed, "respected and respectful", they crowed, "British" they cackled. Lo and Behold, summoned from the dark depths, was a menacing duck, no, a fiery Dragon, nay, worse still, a creaky, croaky Dinosaur. From the days of yonder, when the world was the same, yet infinitely different. Where Evil was triumphant for its losses, all-conquering in her failures. Slow-witted, slow-moving, and slow-everything else, it was unmatched. And it was with that experience that Ol' Roy, as he became to be known as, was unleashed into our unsuspecting midst.
And little did we know, that this was the beginning of the end, or worse yet, the end of the beginning of the end. The trigger was poised, armed and ready, waiting for an unsuspecting Liverpool fan. The final event required to unleash the secret within, to finally make us Liverpool fans turn our back on an LFC manager, was a single Liverpool fan( preferably a noobie newly registered in an LFC online forum), to write a long, babbling post, about the problems with Roy. I share this with you only because I need to (yessiree bob, i got paid to do so). This is a warning for other online LFC fans. Unfortunately some fans just can't stop writing negative things about Roy. I pity them....
Speaking of Roy and his weaknesses,
(and back to today's wonderfully screwed and raped written English)
My issue with Roy is not so much that we're in our worst start in ages, or one of our worst run of matches in some time. (It could be that Roy's just having a bad run!). It's something else, more emotional for some reason. I'll try to explain, (pls note; a rambling alert has been sounded!
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His worst run of matches coincide with his reign as manager. That is to say, his worst run is still an ongoing process. Whereas we could pick the date when Rafa's weak run of last year ended, we are still in the midst of a bad run. And this bad run started from his first game in charge! Rafa had a record of success, even in the premierleague, you could look at his results before the weak run, and assume that that was in fact a very bad run. (as opposed to a very bad manager). Roy's record does not hold up the same way. In fact, considering his previous record, I can't imagine what were the thought processes when his name was bandied around as a possible candidate by our board. Which brings me to my main point.
It pains me to say this as a Liverpool fan, but, Roy's appointment as manager was not based on footballing decisions. I know it, you know it, the media might pretend otherwise but they know it, and I'm pretty sure he does too. Now take a second and think about that. For the first time in our history a manager was picked due to political reasons, right here, right to our club, right in our midst. And I think he knows that.. I for one can't stop thinking about that whenever I see him standing in front of our dugout.
Look, I know, we're Liverpool fans, we stand behind our managers no matter what. We did that partly because no matter what the results were on the pitch, we always believed that the owners, the board, and the manager, were trying their best to do what could help Liverpool the most on and off the pitch. But is that the case today? I'm not sure the last 12 months were about football...far too much politics going on, and whenever you get a lot of political manuovering going on its safe to say money is a big part of it. The board may have done well these last few weeks but I'm still uneasy. I want to trust them, but than I think of Insua leaving, and Aquilani leaving, and the Rafa firing/quiting....did it/was it/could it happen debacle.
My buddy, my pal, my amigo, good ol Rog. Are his actions wrong? Liverpool and him, Roy and LFC. Was he convinced he good bring success?
Or he saw a chance and sprung for it, Carpe Diem and all that.
But its not all that.
Thats my club you've seized the moment with, that's my passion, my love, my emotional joy ride that I love AND NEED. I don't want anything to do with Carpe Diem when its so personal to me. I've already been tortured for the last few years, from the last time some else thought Carpe Diem with reference to Liverpool...and those two stooges are the reason we're having this discussion in the first place!
Sure, I'm not expecting a Knight in Shining armour to replace Rafa, but at the least, a Knight that took a good long look at Liverpool, a good long look at himself before deciding to take the challenge. This is Liverpool dammit! Even after 20 trophyless league season's, we still believe!
Sometimes in life, we have to make the decision not to do something because we acknowledge that we're just not good enough. That the value of Liverpool, and the trials that come with it are above and beyond most managers, and to even attempt to take charge would be to do an injustice to the club, the fans, the history and and every other manager that managed Liverpool before and gave their best.
And dammit Roy, Either you overvalued your skills, or you undervalued what it takes to be a Liverpool manager. Or worse still, you did both. What, you thought because a foriegner like Rafa could lead us to some success and trophies, that you would be the missing link for the league trophy? If that is the case, than I applaud you, you might quite well be the "missing link" they've been looking for all this time. And by "they" I mean the Researchers attempting to connect the link between man and monkey. Or have I gone too far?
But there's more, see, he doesn't seem to realise the situation we're in.
He could have been humbled by his weak start, shocked and surprised.
He might have realised that its not as easy as he thought, and knuckled down to really start working.
What's wrong with the squad? which players are not playing good enough?
could my tactics have finally been found out as not good enough for a top team, how can I fix it?
I have top class players that are struggling this season, what changes have I made to their stlyle of play? How did they play previously, and what can I pick up from the past?
What is my plan B? why don't I have a plan B? what does it say about me as a manager that I don't have a plan B? How could I have accepted a managerial spot at Liverpool and I don't even have a #%#¤#% plan B?
The answers to the above questions, do I know them? If I do, can I execute them? If I neither now the answers, or am unable to execute the answers, why am I still holding on? How does Liverpool gain by me grasping and clinging on to my job?
Instead, all that good Ol' Roy does is, blame the players. It is, after all, their fault they're not good enough, except ofcourse, the players he signed. And its not fair to blame him, all he did was pick a team that he thought was good enough, and golly gosh and by Jove, it turns out the team was just not that good. But then, they are the B team after all. And its not his fault that the team's "best game we've played since I've become manager of the club" (that is a direct quote, i kid you not), was lambasted by all as being a game we were outplayed, by Everton. %#%#¤Everton.
As for Torres, you limping overrated foriegner, Roy's got your number, and its not dialing.
Yes, you, Torres, the one with record goals scored by a foriegner in his first season, the two time PFA Team of the year, a shortlist for Fifa player of the year, the two-time FIFPro World X11, the scorer of 57 league goals in 86 league matches and 73 goals in 125 matches and 50 league goals at Anfield in less than 3 seasons. You'd better shape up or shape out! Don't make me Zamora your ass. My tactics are spot on, and if you can't score its plainly because you're having a very bad run and are lacking confidence. Man the %#% up!
Roy, you're our manager, but quite frankly, Roy, you're deluded.
Ol Roy's been caught out as not good enough and he refuses to face truth. He Carpe Diemed his way into Liverpool when it should have been blatant to all that he was not good enough.
And Roy, you've finally done it, I never thought I'd ever reach this. I've crossed over. Roy, you've finally broken me.
I have now become like the other fans. It's happened, and for the first time in my life as a Liverpool fan, I've given up on my manager. And, I'm wishing he would leave. I've sunk so low, I've actually taken time out of my life, to sit down, and write, an anti-manager rant. Against the manager of my own team. Against a current, active, Manager of Liverpool FC.
Things will never be the same again, as a fan. But that's my burden to bear and pay.
And Roy, one last thing.
Carpe f"#¤"ing Diem yourself outta here, and take your damn ego with you.
*ashamed? me?
that I turned out to be the trigger that launched the beginning of the unveilment of the myth?
Somebody had to get it down on paper, and if you want something done wrong, you've got to do it yourself*