Author Topic: Glazer debt drains Manchester United (Not nearly 1 billion in new deals) (Read 181104 times)

west_london_red · « **Reply #2080 on:** August 22, 2011, 04:00:48 PM »

Quote from: Red Beret on August 22, 2011, 03:51:03 PM

United pulling the commercial stops out now? Think of what we'll be able to do soon, and we wont half half a billion quid's worth of debt weighing us down.

Nor will they if the partial floatation is a success.

CraigDS · « **Reply #2081 on:** August 22, 2011, 04:22:37 PM »

Well United have set the bench mark, off you go Ayre and beat it!

cornelius · « **Reply #2082 on:** August 22, 2011, 04:24:56 PM »

Quote from: west_london_red on August 22, 2011, 04:00:48 PM

Nor will they if the partial floatation is a success.

They should sell Old Trafford's naming rights. They've sold everything else.

itsgunnabebarnes! · « **Reply #2083 on:** August 22, 2011, 04:37:45 PM »

Its will not be long before club shirts have sponsers on the back maybe for individual players?

Libertine · « **Reply #2084 on:** August 22, 2011, 04:39:16 PM »

don't they have their normal shirt sponser (Aon?) on their training kit at the moment? how does this affect their main sponsorship deal?

Twiggthemanc · « **Reply #2085 on:** August 22, 2011, 04:40:53 PM »

Incredible. Say what you want but the Glazer's have certainly improved the money coming into the club massively. That's 10% of our annual gross profit.

SMD · « **Reply #2086 on:** August 22, 2011, 04:58:08 PM »

Quote from: Twiggthemanc on August 22, 2011, 04:40:53 PM

Incredible. Say what you want but the Glazer's have certainly improved the money supporting their failing business empire. That's 10% of our annual gross profit.

Throxenby · « **Reply #2087 on:** August 22, 2011, 05:14:19 PM »

given how shite the parent company of DHL is now towards its customers, id rather be sponsered by poundland

Farman · « **Reply #2088 on:** August 22, 2011, 05:21:19 PM »

If you bring a pot of water to the boil, then stick a frog in it, the frog will jump straight back out. But if you put a frog in a pot of water, then bring it to the boil, the frog will happily stay in the pot until it dies. Interesting fact.

Terry De Niro · « **Reply #2089 on:** August 22, 2011, 05:27:33 PM »

Quote from: Twiggthemanc on August 22, 2011, 04:40:53 PM

Incredible. Say what you want but the Glazer's have certainly improved the money coming into the club massively. That's 10% of our annual gross profit.

You really do believe that?
Thank fuck you don't support us.

Twiggthemanc · « **Reply #2090 on:** August 22, 2011, 05:30:10 PM »

Quote from: Terry De Niro on August 22, 2011, 05:27:33 PM

You really do believe that?
Thank fuck you don't support us.

Well they have. It's incredible. Our commercial revenue is amazing. It can't be denied.

INABITSKI · « **Reply #2091 on:** August 22, 2011, 05:31:02 PM »

Quote from: Twiggthemanc on August 22, 2011, 05:30:10 PM

Well they have. It's incredible. Our commercial revenue is amazing. It can't be denied.

You are making excuses for leeches.

More fool you.

El Campeador · « **Reply #2092 on:** August 22, 2011, 05:33:33 PM »

Quote from: Twiggthemanc on August 22, 2011, 04:40:53 PM

That's 10% of our annual gross profit.

How did you come up with that?

We're listening.

Throxenby · « **Reply #2093 on:** August 22, 2011, 05:33:56 PM »

so ferguson has spent the dhl money this summer
whos he going to whore to, to get a proper keeper in january ?

Terry De Niro · « **Reply #2094 on:** August 22, 2011, 05:33:59 PM »

Quote from: Twiggthemanc on August 22, 2011, 05:30:10 PM

Well they have. It's incredible. Our commercial revenue is amazing. It can't be denied.

You go on thinking that fella and hopefully more gullible Mancs will go along with your way of thinking.
You don't get it and never will...

Twiggthemanc · « **Reply #2095 on:** August 22, 2011, 05:42:42 PM »

Quote from: El Campeador on August 22, 2011, 05:33:33 PM

How did you come up with that?

We're listening.

Saw andersred say it, he normally knows what he's talking about.

Apparently we're looking at another 20% rise in commercial revenue.

owens_2k · « **Reply #2096 on:** August 22, 2011, 05:43:09 PM »

Can't see AON being happy with this. Crazy deal though, will do wonders for their FFP figures.

El Campeador · « **Reply #2097 on:** August 22, 2011, 05:45:13 PM »

Quote from: Twiggthemanc on August 22, 2011, 05:42:42 PM

Saw andersred say it, he normally knows what he's talking about.

So you plagiarized someone else's bullshit without even fucking understanding what it meant?

Quote from: Terry De Niro on August 22, 2011, 05:27:33 PM

Thank fuck you don't support us.

Terry De Niro · « **Reply #2098 on:** August 22, 2011, 05:47:39 PM »

Quote from: El Campeador on August 22, 2011, 05:45:13 PM

So you plagiarized someone else's bullshit here without even fucking understanding what it meant?

It's not worth wasting your breath with him mate, he is Comical Ali..

Twiggthemanc · « **Reply #2099 on:** August 22, 2011, 05:48:15 PM »

Quote from: El Campeador on August 22, 2011, 05:45:13 PM

So you plagiarized someone else's bullshit without even fucking understanding what it meant?

Well I understand the general meaning of it, and I understand he's a financial expert. You say "plagiarizing someones bullshit" I say "repeating what a financial expert said on the matter"

Twiggthemanc · « **Reply #2100 on:** August 22, 2011, 05:48:46 PM »

Quote from: Terry De Niro on August 22, 2011, 05:47:39 PM

It's not worth wasting your breath with him mate, he is Comical Ali..

You're right, we've spent no money this transfer window, the Glazers have been completely bad for the club and we're going nowhere fast.

MBL? · « **Reply #2101 on:** August 22, 2011, 05:51:20 PM »

Whether the Glazers are draining them or not that is a great deal for them.

Terry De Niro · « **Reply #2102 on:** August 22, 2011, 05:51:39 PM »

Quote from: Twiggthemanc on August 22, 2011, 05:48:46 PM

You're right, we've spent no money this transfer window, the Glazers have been completely bad for the club and we're going nowhere fast.

Yeah, that De Gea money was well spent.
Watch this space...

RossoBianchi · « **Reply #2103 on:** August 22, 2011, 05:51:41 PM »

Quote from: Twiggthemanc on August 22, 2011, 04:40:53 PM

Incredible. Say what you want but the Glazer's have certainly improved the money coming into the club massively. That's 10% of our annual gross profit.

That steady stream eh... shame there's a big fat fucking hole in the bottom of the tank.

Hij · « **Reply #2104 on:** August 22, 2011, 05:54:11 PM »

Not that hopeful of a United crash like ours now to be honest. Would love it to happen but doesn't seem likely at all. New commercial deal and 30% of shares to raise capital? I just can't see it.

Although RossiBianchi is a Manc isn't he? Why the polar difference between you two lads opinions?

SMD · « **Reply #2105 on:** August 22, 2011, 05:55:40 PM »

Quote from: RossoBianchi on August 22, 2011, 05:51:41 PM

That steady stream eh... shame there's a big fat fucking hole in the bottom of the tank.

Bit harsh there, I'd say old man Malcolm is more portly than big and fat.

Twiggthemanc · « **Reply #2106 on:** August 22, 2011, 05:56:47 PM »

Quote from: Terry De Niro on August 22, 2011, 05:51:39 PM

Yeah, that De Gea money was well spent.
Watch this space...

Ha. I guess De Gea money was wasted, his whole one league game was pretty bad, he must be terrible.

Twiggthemanc · « **Reply #2107 on:** August 22, 2011, 05:58:28 PM »

Quote from: Hij on August 22, 2011, 05:54:11 PM

Not that hopeful of a United crash like ours now to be honest. Would love it to happen but doesn't seem likely at all. New commercial deal and 30% of shares to raise capital? I just can't see it.

Although RossiBianchi is a Manc isn't he? Why the polar difference between you two lads opinions?

Rosso is in a group of fans which I respect, which is fighting to get Glazers out of the club. There is a lot of talk about how they're ruining United and how they're definitely going to destroy the club.

I personally don't think it's so black and white. I don't think they're completely bad, but United would be better off without them. However in my case I think it's better the devil you know, and would like someone like the Glazers who whilst putting limitations on us, still maintain a very very competitive squad with quite big spending, and this has continued this year.

MBL? · « **Reply #2108 on:** August 22, 2011, 05:58:35 PM »

Quote from: Hij on August 22, 2011, 05:54:11 PM

Although RossiBianchi is a Manc isn't he? Why the polar difference between you two lads opinions?

Could be something got to do them paying off the debt where as if they had no debt they could be spending money like City.

Terry De Niro · « **Reply #2109 on:** August 22, 2011, 05:58:47 PM »

Quote from: Hij on August 22, 2011, 05:54:11 PM

Although RossiBianchi is a Manc isn't he? Why the polar difference between you two lads opinions?

Because Rossi has a brain.

Twigg on the other hand....

El Campeador · « **Reply #2110 on:** August 22, 2011, 05:59:21 PM »

Quote from: Twiggthemanc on August 22, 2011, 05:48:15 PM

Well I understand the general meaning of it, and I understand he's a financial expert.

Do you, now. Is this like when you took a wee walk down Goodwill Amortization Lane?

Do you even know what gross profit means?

Quote

You say "plagiarizing someones bullshit" I say "repeating what a financial expert said on the matter"

You didn't cite the source until I showed that you were a plagiarizing axe-wound, and even then you didn't understand what you ripped off. Plagiarizing isn't looked upon very kindly around here. If corkboy finds out, you're fucked.

Twiggthemanc · « **Reply #2111 on:** August 22, 2011, 06:01:55 PM »

Quote from: Martin Broughton's Lovechild on August 22, 2011, 05:58:35 PM

Could be something got to do them paying off the debt where as if they had no debt they could be spending money like City.

If City sell Tevez now Etoo has gone, will their net spend be that much higher than ours?

MBL? · « **Reply #2112 on:** August 22, 2011, 06:10:09 PM »

Quote from: Twiggthemanc on August 22, 2011, 06:01:55 PM

If City sell Tevez now Etoo has gone, will their net spend be that much higher than ours?

Yes. Have you seen the wages they pay?

kopindian · « **Reply #2113 on:** August 22, 2011, 06:18:06 PM »

Read somewhere that a club in brazil have a deodrant company's name in the armpit part of the shirt. Maybe thats next.

Diomedieocre · « **Reply #2114 on:** August 22, 2011, 06:26:46 PM »

Quote from: kopindian on August 22, 2011, 06:18:06 PM

Read somewhere that a club in brazil have a deodrant company's name in the armpit part of the shirt. Maybe thats next.

Slurgie`s getting famous grouse tattood on his nose.

1892tillforever · « **Reply #2115 on:** August 22, 2011, 06:52:34 PM »

Their debt is irrelevant. Their empire ticks along till Mr. Ferguson kicks the bucket. This is why fans like Twigg are happy.

El Campeador · « **Reply #2116 on:** August 22, 2011, 06:58:57 PM »

Quote from: 1892tillforever on August 22, 2011, 06:52:34 PM

Their debt is irrelevant. Their empire ticks along till Mr. Ferguson kicks the bucket. This is why fans like Twigg are happy.

danthemanlfc · « **Reply #2117 on:** August 22, 2011, 07:00:51 PM »

Quote from: Something Else on August 22, 2011, 03:46:45 PM

Struggle to see how this makes any sense to DHL at all?

This. I'm sorry but how does this further advertise DHL? A few shots in the paper occassionally, a few glimpses before kick-off? And like others have mentioned, I'm sure Aon can't be too happy about this

1892tillforever · « **Reply #2118 on:** August 22, 2011, 07:04:12 PM »

Quote from: El Campeador on August 22, 2011, 06:58:57 PM

It's true though. As long as they win trophies and are competing, do you think the vast majority of their fanbase give a shit about their debt now that they are 'Champ19ns'

Cos that extra league title is worth about £500 million don't you know? Fans like Rossi are long-term thinkers and there ain't many of them about around the Theatre of Cheats. Personally, I think lord drunkard will keep them ticking along and some multi-billionaire will save their wretched club.

1021 · « **Reply #2119 on:** August 22, 2011, 07:17:47 PM »

Quote from: Twiggthemanc on August 22, 2011, 05:58:28 PM

Rosso is in a group of fans which I respect, which is fighting to get Glazers out of the club. There is a lot of talk about how they're ruining United and how they're definitely going to destroy the club.

I personally don't think it's so black and white. I don't think they're completely bad, but United would be better off without them. However in my case I think it's better the devil you know, and would like someone like the Glazers who whilst putting limitations on us, still maintain a very very competitive squad with quite big spending, and this has continued this year.

Fucking insane.

What you are essentially saying is that United would be better off without the Glazers, but because they continue to give you a 'competitive squad' you are acceptant of their continue presence and thus damage to your football club, in favour of short term success.

I hate modern football and I hate modern fans, and I am 19.
Any chance we can rewind and pause, this sport makes me feel sick at times.