Topic: Liverpool Vs Northampton In Game Shit and Post Match Guesswork

[Gnurglan]

You forgot "a pair safe hands" and "steadying the ship".

I think they're past that. They're trying to find out who to blame for the sinking ship.

[thekremlin]

The "owl face bit" is as bad as calling Rafa a fat Spanish waiter. And just as out of order.

i just thought it was funny. christ! i feel like russell brand now or something! a social pariah! you've got to admit, he does look a bit like an owl.

[daveonthespionkop1900]

pacheo did nothing to say he should be in the team tonight but shelvey looked good when he came on

[Cribertinokes]

Ahhhh, right. Sorry. Fair enough.

 

If we lose on Saturday then I think Hodgson should be sacked.

[Walk on, walk on]

I think they're past that. They're trying to find out who to blame for the sinking ship.

Think we all know who's to blame. Rafa out!

[Bob Loblaw]

Serious question. Is that Voronin?

[bleedsred1978]

The irony being, of course, that what Benitez had when he was here was supposedly good enough to win the title, but now isn't at all.

Nail on head.

[FernandoTourettes]

When Spurs sacked Juande Ramos they were on 2 points after 8 games in the league. Harry Redknapp came in and took 16 points  from their next 8 games. There was an immediate effect on the performance of the team by the introduction of the new manager.

So when Liverpool sacked Benitez (sorry, mutual consent), I expected the board to appoint a man capable of similar turnaround in fortunes.

In his last 5 games with the club Rafa managed 8 points. What has Roy managed to do with the his first five games in charge? 5 points. He's failing, whatever way you look at it.

C'mon mate, I'm fuming about tonight. Just biting my tongue short of joining a heat of the moment Roy Out bandwagon BUT, you can't compare these circumstances for countless reasons. It's not as like he has taken over the same team, there a 4 new first teamers for a start plus a summer World Cup in between.

And those 5 games did include Man Utd/City and Arsenal.

No excuses for tonight though.

[rafasredangel]

This is what fucks me off the most. Last year benitez with a shit load of injuries and ridiculous beach ball decisions struggled to 7th with almost the same team. This year Hodgson has no injury worries (bar Kuyt who is back soon) and the only real absence being Mascherano. Yet both Hodgson and the media are busy telling us the team is shit, our expectations too high and its all Rafa's fault. Apparently we need to reassess where the club is and set our standards lower and that's all Rafa's fault too, it's his legacy. Well, fuck off the lot of you, Rafa wouldn't have put out a team of children with zero experience on the bench, looked surprised when they struggled and then failed to make any tactical changes until we were losing (the big tactical change being to put a CB up front to win long balls) and when we were granted a reprieve get the yongsters (Jonjo, Ngog and Ecclestone) to take the penalties.

Fucking stupid, no one believes that Rafa would have cocked up like that and its not the first time Hodgson has appeared inept. This is nothing to do with the squad or the players, managers like Benitez would have got more out of this side, it's poor managent, simple as. In fact the one thing Hodgson was brought in to do (love the players and motivate them) he has singularly failed at. Truth is we need a better manager with European experience, tactical nous and a style of play suited to the top tier, not a long ball merchant who wants to craft us into a Fulham.

However, untll new ownership is decided we shouldn't make a move since this will only serve to highlight the lack of footballing knowledge in the upper echelons of the club (as stated by Benitez this week). After they are gone it would be best to look to an Italian or Spanish coach since these seem far more tactically astute than their English and British counterparts.

Complete agree with this.

[graffspider]

Pellegrini is still unemployed right?

As far as I know, but you'd have to question his mental state if he wanted to manage Liverpool under the current regime. At least Roy is English & so gets some slack from the media - if we dared to appoint another foreigner so soon they'd fucking crucify him. Just ask Rafa, who is still getting shitloads of flak and he's been gone for months.

[wiresnreds]

There is a positive here fellas............Less money for the Yanks to pillage

[ThepepeReina]

You werent saying sack Hodgson now but were saying he should be sacked

Peoples front of Judea moment

haha love it

[Mouth]

Why didn't we appoint him is beyond me.

Because a yes man with no bollocks was the prefered choice.

[duke8]

just watched the highlights...great goal by Jova ....rest shite! Also noticed that there is no interview with Roy....none on the radio either...i wonder if he is a quitter???

well he does leave jobs quickly. had a few over the last few years.
so we can live in hope eh?

[MOZ]

Mark Bright... "Hodgson has inherited Rafa's team"

I see a pattern developing here.





Soft twat.

and Hodgson signed Jovanavic.....apparently

[Randy Marsh]

Load of bollocks. Simple as.
We moan when we dont give youngsters a chance and we moan if they dont beat teams.

You know nothing about football and how it works from what Im reading from you.

That was hardly a youth team. That was a side full of average, unmotivated fringe players and a couple of young players who should have been given chances already.

[SalisburyRed]

Mark Bright... "Hodgson has inherited Rafa's team"

I see a pattern developing here.





Soft twat.

I loathe Mark Bright.

[alvaro]

Pellegrini lost 4-0 to a third tier side btw. ( I still thinks he is better than Roy but some perspective)

[firing squad]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4w2qoJ0v7Q&feature=player_embedded

[America's Sweetheart]

FFS mate. In case you're missing the point, let me make it abundantly clear.

Calling for a manager to be sacked on an internet forum when you weren't even at the game and didn't event *see it* is utter nonsense.

Why?

I've been trying to understand why people think we should support Roy Hodgson. I didn't fire Rafa. I hadn't been lining Hodgson up for the job for months beforehand. And I didn't hire him. I don't support the owners or their board, so why should I support their hireling?

We need to do EVERYTHING we can to drive the current owners and administration out of the club. They count on our continuing support. One cure for cancer is chemotherapy. Getting rid of Hodgson would be a start. At the kindest interpretation, he would just be collateral damage.

Although, I spose, he is pretty much guaranteeing relegation at the moment. So maybe I SHOULD be behind him? I'm confused.

[Hazell]

There would still be people calling for Roy's head if he had won every match. Because of "the style of play".

Not to the extent as it is right now. The point is, our problems are deepr than Roy and tonight doesn't change that.

[Cadno]

Just like Phil Brown.

Good choice for our next manager.  English so the press will like that and he is used to fighting at the top of the league.   And with us being in the Championship in the next couple of years at this rate his experience could prove invaluable

[shelovesyou]

Funny, I feel the same way about you.

There you go.

[pauldonnelly16]

Depressing thing is - tonight's result didn't shock me in the slightest. Wasn't angry, wasn't upset, just a feeling of nothingness.  I can't ever remember a period where i've had absolutely no expectations of winning a game like i do lately. Can't fucking wait until the 2 leeches are out of our club so we can start to rebuild whats left of our club. 

[Red_Isle_Chap]

How bad would we have been if we weren't in this new manager honeymoon period?

I actually want to laugh at that Art, but we haven't had a honeymoon period yet and i'm wondering when exactly it'll start. Then again, the players are happy in training now if you listen to reports, so that's good.

Has there been any comment from anyone at the club yet after the game? I'm waiting for one of the players to be lined up as the spokesperson and offer the "public apology" to the fans.

[koppitekop11]

pacheo did nothing to say he should be in the team tonight but shelvey looked good when he came on

Mate nobody done nothing. They were all shit with the exception of Kelly and as you say Shelvey when he came on. His crosses were good and his penalty was cool.
Kelly though I thought was brilliant. Not all crosses were accurate but at least he tried. Was extremely disappointed with Wilson tonight. No adventure from him and simply looked.... well shit.

[Cribertinokes]

You werent saying sack Hodgson now but were saying he should be sacked

Peoples front of Judea moment

If we lose on Saturday then I think Hodgson should be sacked.

If we lost on Saturday, nothing to do with the Northampton result, I'm not worried by your opinion, just make sure you get the right one out.

[jDJ]

I used to put on a double bet every season - Southend (my local team) to win their league and Liverpool to win their league - should have put money on them both to lose to Northampton in the space of two weeks.

[hoonin]

Well In and keep it up!

If only more would join in the boycotts. In my mind, it's the only effective measure that has a chance to hit them where it hurts the most.

Mate, I'd love to say it was an entirely altruistic decision but it's just as much a means thing.

[Capon Debaser]

Mark Bright... "Hodgson has inherited Rafa's team"

I see a pattern developing here.





Soft twat.

Funny how this shit works isnt it..

Rafa inherits Geds team that was shit enough to get him the sack,and thats the reason behind Istanbul!!! Roy inherits Rafas team after 1 season of shite(2 wins and a draw behind a fantastic Spurs season with a load of injuries) and this season is  Rafas fault...

[Blamire]

Absolutely fucking dire, embarrassing in fact.

What is most worrying is that, yet again, we were completely outplayed. In the past six years we have become used to controlling the game and making the opposition work, yet once again we have played sub standard opposition and made them look like fucking Barcelona. I thought WBA was bad enough, but when the likes of Northampton can move the ball and play that freely, we really do have problems.

The team was clearly good enough to beat these lot, and we had the perfect start - but one things went tits up there was absolutely no reaction from the manager. How long was it before the first sub was made? 90 mins?

[Heighwayondawing]

Because a yes man with no bollocks was the prefered choice.

Besides this, who actually believes we were in the running for a "Big Name"? No self respecting manager with plans to win would have touched us from across the Mersey. Roy took the job when no one would, he wanted one final shot at a Big Club, got to give him credit for being ready to eat shit to get his chance.

[Tom_B]

Because a yes man with no bollocks was the prefered choice.

That's the jist.

The amount of people who both wanted Rafa gone, and also swore that Hodgson wasn't a "yes man" would be amusing if it wasn't for the fact that we are becoming a farce.

[Cruiser]

Is it wrong to say I'm not surprised?

[Karma24]

Why didn't we appoint him is beyond me.

And we won't, I can guarantee Martin O Neil would be brought in. I still think Roy will sort it out. A win in our next three games and things will pick up

[SwedenRed]

There is only ONE who should take the blame for this tonight, and that is THE PLAYERS. No doubt about it. They didnt play well at all. This is arguably our second string, back-up for the 1st 11 players, and they cant even put a performance or a result past fuckin 4th division Northampton. Forget Roy or Rafa in all of this...Its about time the players EARNED their worth... End fuckin of.

[hoonin]

If we lost on Saturday, nothing to do with the Northampton result, I'm not worried by your opinion, just make sure you get the right one out.

So in a thread full of rambling anger over losing to N'hampton you call for the manager to be sacked at the next bad result, but it's nothing to do with tonights match?
 
You're tying yourself in knots lad.

[redrockydennis]

FFS mate. In case you're missing the point, let me make it abundantly clear.

Calling for a manager to be sacked on an internet forum when you weren't even at the game and didn't event *see it* is utter nonsense.

when are we allowed to have an opinion then? roy himself said 10 league games, do we wait til then?

[Captain Haddock]

WORDS FAIL.

[geoffstrong]

Load of bollocks. Simple as.
We moan when we dont give youngsters a chance and we moan if they dont beat teams.

You know nothing about football and how it works from what Im reading from you.

No we moan when the standard of football is rubbish, when the tactics are rubbish, when the results are rubbish, as for your last line, ever heard the old phrase 'pot calling a kettle black' the amount you seem to know about football could fit into a matchbox and have room for most of the matches!