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Cochise · « **Reply #80 on:** November 18, 2010, 01:47:50 PM »

Makes ya sick really.

Buzz Killington · « **Reply #81 on:** November 18, 2010, 02:16:15 PM »

Quote from: The Gulleysucker on November 18, 2010, 12:56:36 PM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-11787126

How the fuck. That's absolute bullshit

It's Jimmy Corkhill · « **Reply #82 on:** November 18, 2010, 02:25:05 PM »

What a surprise

stoop · « **Reply #83 on:** November 18, 2010, 02:33:29 PM »

So the Sgt didn't injure her at all. Nope, no way our brave Sgt did that. It was the concrete floor that did it. :/

Chakan · « **Reply #84 on:** November 18, 2010, 02:34:42 PM »

Well she shouldn't have headbutted the floor then should she. If she is going to headbutt a concrete floor what does she expect? Thank goodness that nice officer was there to help her up, otherwise she might have done it again.

corkboy · « **Reply #85 on:** November 18, 2010, 02:43:56 PM »

Isn't it fabulous how everyone is quite happy to accept the first verdict but not the second?

Spongebob Redpants · « **Reply #86 on:** November 18, 2010, 02:48:30 PM »

Quote from: corkboy on November 18, 2010, 02:43:56 PM

Isn't it fabulous how everyone is quite happy to accept the first verdict but not the second?

Do you not think there's a reason ? Folowing the initial sentence :

Following his conviction, Assistant Chief Constable Patrick Geenty said he was "a disgrace" to the force and added: "There is no place in Wiltshire Police for an officer like this."

corkboy · « **Reply #87 on:** November 18, 2010, 02:52:35 PM »

Quote from: Spongebob Redpants on November 18, 2010, 02:48:30 PM

Do you not think there's a reason ? Folowing the initial sentence :

Following his conviction, Assistant Chief Constable Patrick Geenty said he was "a disgrace" to the force and added: "There is no place in Wiltshire Police for an officer like this."

Assistant Chief Constables don't have a monopoly on the truth.

Spongebob Redpants · « **Reply #88 on:** November 18, 2010, 04:13:24 PM »

Quote from: corkboy on November 18, 2010, 02:52:35 PM

Assistant Chief Constables don't have a monopoly on the truth.

You're not wrong !

Is there something in the story that makes you question the initial conviction decision ?

grifter · « **Reply #89 on:** November 18, 2010, 05:35:26 PM »

"The appeal judge, Mr Justice Bean, said after the four-day hearing he was satisfied that Sgt Andrews did not intend to throw Ms Somerville into the cell and that injuries she suffered "were probably caused by her falling to the floor after letting go of the door frame".

The appeal judge, Mr Justice Bean, said after the four-day hearing he was satisfied that Josef Fritzel did not intend to incarcerate his children in a windowless cellar and that it was simply a competative game of hide and seek gone awry.

Probably both in the same Masonic Lodge , pair of shithouses.

Lent§ · « **Reply #90 on:** November 18, 2010, 05:47:21 PM »

Wonder if I can get off of all my previous offences, I didn't mean to do them.

Fucking typical

The Gulleysucker · « **Reply #91 on:** November 18, 2010, 06:21:27 PM »

There was a famous Judge Bean in the days of the wild west...

"In one case, an Irishman named Paddy O'Rourke shot a Chinese laborer. A mob of 200 angry Irishmen surrounded the courtroom and threatened to lynch Bean if O'Rourke was not freed. After looking through his law book, Bean ruled that "homicide was the killing of a human being; however, he could find no law against killing a Chinaman".[9] Bean dismissed the case.[9]"

...allegedly along with many similar interesting verdicts.

Quite a mildly amusing film at the time with Paul Newman playing Bean and Stacey Keach making a memorable appearance as the legendary 'Bad Bob'.....not dirty Bad Bob of New Mexico, but the original Bad Bob, the mean one, the albino...

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/ubjIc3qLPds&hl=en_US&fs=1" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/ubjIc3qLPds&hl=en_US&fs=1</a>

Sabbi yypia · « **Reply #92 on:** November 19, 2010, 10:51:27 AM »

Has anyone seen the video footage? She was clearly being difficult when being led to the cells, and was holding onto the door as he was trying to close it. Why be so difficult about it in the first place even is you are innocent of failing to provide a breath sample (wonder what her reason was for this) possibly she was too drunk to remember.

Surely the £££ in and compo claim she will probably make will ease her trauma..

CornerFlag · « **Reply #93 on:** November 19, 2010, 12:26:53 PM »

Quote from: Chakan on November 18, 2010, 02:34:42 PM

Well she shouldn't have headbutted the floor then should she. If she is going to headbutt a concrete floor what does she expect? Thank goodness that nice officer was there to help her up, otherwise she might have done it again.

Bloody naughty naughty concrete floor, naughty!

Here's another bit on it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-11794207

Graeme · « **Reply #94 on:** December 3, 2011, 12:55:50 AM »

Police Appeals Tribunal has ordererd his reinstatement...

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Article/201112116122679

mildale · « **Reply #95 on:** December 3, 2011, 12:59:34 AM »

I know a police officer and he's the nicest guy you could ever meet. People like this give the police a bad name, although I see he has got away with it.

rusty-la · « **Reply #96 on:** December 3, 2011, 01:04:26 AM »

Its inappropriate behavior. The courts and his employers will deal with that.

This appears to be turning into a 'coppers are bad' thread.

Come on, there not all bad right?.

Like Nurses and Firemen, a tough job, a few bad uns, but they get weeded out.

I'm off to the Fall Out shelter.

xavidub · « **Reply #97 on:** December 3, 2011, 09:21:33 AM »

Quote from: Graeme on December 3, 2011, 12:55:50 AM

Police Appeals Tribunal has ordererd his reinstatement...

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Article/201112116122679

Wow, a real bolt from the blue, that decision.

ollick · « **Reply #98 on:** December 3, 2011, 09:47:01 AM »

Quote from: rusty-la on December 3, 2011, 01:04:26 AM

Its inappropriate behavior. The courts and his employers will deal with that.

This appears to be turning into a 'coppers are bad' thread.

Come on, there not all bad right?.

Like Nurses and Firemen, a tough job, a few bad uns, but they get weeded out.

I'm off to the Fall Out shelter.

Totally agree with you.

Sr Harvest Fiields · « **Reply #99 on:** December 3, 2011, 09:47:40 AM »

Quote from: mildale on December 3, 2011, 12:59:34 AM

I know a police officer and he's the nicest guy you could ever meet. People like this give the police a bad name, although I see he has got away with it.

I know a police officer who is a lying, cheating piece of shit who thinks he is above the law. And? There are always two sides in every walk of life.

Maybe they thought it had all blown over and he could get his job back without it being noticed.

The Gulleysucker · « **Reply #100 on:** December 3, 2011, 10:00:40 AM »

It would seem that Wiltshire Police are not too happy with this decision...

Wiltshire Police said it was "surprised and disappointed" by the ruling.

The police force and Wiltshire Police Authority are now considering whether to appeal against the decision by the independent Police Appeals Tribunal. BBC

Let's see what happens next.

Lord Roger Hunt · « **Reply #101 on:** December 3, 2011, 11:55:19 AM »

Some of the comments here could have been lifted straight from the Daily Fail - strange that, but, as Grandma says 'haters are gonna hate'....no matter the political persuasion.

Red Beret · « **Reply #102 on:** December 3, 2011, 01:48:37 PM »

Mate of mine got pulled over recently driving back from his local Tescos. The officer was very polite and they had a conversation in which the officer basically explained he'd had to stop my mate for the stats because it was a really quiet night for them. Asked him where he'd been and where he was going and what he'd gone out for and then left him be.

Needless to say my mate was very relieved. He'd been out drinking with me a few hours earlier and was petrified that he might have been over the limit if they'd given him a breath test (which they didn't). On the plus side put the shits well up him and he's not taken that chance again since.

The Gulleysucker · « **Reply #103 on:** November 9, 2012, 03:02:45 PM »

A police officer who was sacked after a woman prisoner was dragged across a floor and thrown in a cell must get his job back, a High Court judge has ruled.
Sgt Mark Andrews was jailed in 2010 for assaulting the 60-year-old, but had his conviction quashed on appeal.
He was sacked by Wiltshire Police, but an appeals tribunal ordered him to be reinstated to his £36,000 a year job.
On Friday, the High Court rejected the force's application for a judicial review of the tribunal ruling.
In his judgement, released on Friday, Mr Justice Ouseley said he expected the order for reinstatement made by the tribunal to be implemented "with full regard to its conclusions, and the failure of this unarguable challenge".

........

Chief Constable Pat Geenty added ....

"The Police Appeals Tribunal accepted that Mark Andrews' actions were intolerant and discreditable and I felt they were a disgrace - there was no place in Wiltshire Police for this behaviour then nor is there now. While I believe the Police Discipline Panel's decision to dismiss Mark Andrews was correct, I accept the legal authority which states he must be reinstated."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-20263101

Hmm.

Big Red Richie · « **Reply #104 on:** November 9, 2012, 03:09:07 PM »

Carry on regardless then, eh!

Red Beret · « **Reply #105 on:** November 9, 2012, 03:12:34 PM »

Nobody will want to work with a man like that? He'll be a pariah.

Big Red Richie · « **Reply #106 on:** November 9, 2012, 03:21:46 PM »

Quote from: Red Beret on November 9, 2012, 03:12:34 PM

Nobody will want to work with a man like that? He'll be a pariah.

Don't bet on it.

Whilst many serving officers will no doubt dislike him, there will also be a sizeable minority who probably sympathise with him.

The Gulleysucker · « **Reply #107 on:** November 9, 2012, 03:22:11 PM »

Quote from: Big Red Richie on November 9, 2012, 03:09:07 PM

So it would seem.
I do find it strange for the Police Discipline Panel that investigated this, and the Chief Constable to be overuled.
In todays world, I suppose we should expect next to hear of a bumper compensation payout for him for the stress and anxiety he's been through, while the poor old woman, that don't forget had the charges brought against her dismissed for lack of evidence, quietly seeths.
It's very odd indeed.

Malaysian Kopite · « **Reply #108 on:** November 9, 2012, 03:23:12 PM »

Quote from: Red Beret on November 9, 2012, 03:12:34 PM

Nobody will want to work with a man like that? He'll be a pariah.

Lenin · « **Reply #109 on:** November 9, 2012, 03:25:09 PM »

Quote from: Red Beret on November 9, 2012, 03:12:34 PM

Nobody will want to work with a man like that? He'll be a pariah.

Probably be given a guard of honour on his first day back.

vicgill · « **Reply #110 on:** November 18, 2012, 06:47:34 PM »

Quote from: Spongebob Redpants on September 5, 2010, 02:04:13 PM

What's really horrible about this incident , is that it wasn't just one policemen who was a c*nt - it was the whole lot ( except the female PC who reported it ).

Arrogant , patronising twats . Hope the big hard boy gets a good ripping inside ( if he does in fact do time ) - shithouse !

Police integrity is at stake here, is it possible that she might have called him a pleb.

Breaking news, police denied that there is only one c*nt in the force

vicgill · « **Reply #111 on:** November 18, 2012, 06:53:55 PM »

Quote from: Red Beret on November 9, 2012, 03:12:34 PM

Nobody will want to work with a man like that? He'll be a pariah.

I have been sorely tempted,

HarryLabrador · « **Reply #112 on:** November 18, 2012, 07:39:56 PM »

What in God's name is going on here? This excuse for a policeman should still be behind bars. If a member of the public had assaulted that policeman the same way he attacked the lady, what would be the outcome? Maybe this high court judge shakes hands in a very peculiar manner.

youll never walk alone it · « **Reply #113 on:** November 18, 2012, 07:41:42 PM »

Just another example of the currupt nation we are.

HarryLabrador · « **Reply #114 on:** November 18, 2012, 07:55:15 PM »

And another thing, having been to prison, will this policeman now have a criminal record? If so, I thought anyone with a criminal record is not allowed to join the police force.

DontKopbelieving · « **Reply #115 on:** November 19, 2012, 09:40:05 AM »

I would hazard a guess that there is more to this than meets the eye. Milking it for all its worth from every angle also springs to mind.

Graeme · « **Reply #116 on:** November 19, 2012, 09:53:10 AM »

Quote from: DontKopbelieving on November 19, 2012, 09:40:05 AM

I would hazard a guess that there is more to this than meets the eye.

Maybe. I've watched the CCTV footage again this morning and the woman is being a complete pain in the arse, doing everything she can to resist being put in the cell which leads to the use of force in the first place.

Its hard to tell what happens really, but to me it looks like he's pulling her into the cell and she's resisting and its almost like she stops resisting as he's pulling which gives the impression he's yanked her in with force, but I do think her resisting then stopping leads to the impression he pulled her in more excessively than he actually did.

Effes · « **Reply #117 on:** November 19, 2012, 10:29:46 AM »

Quote from: scared_person on September 6, 2010, 05:00:38 PM

Meh, power corrupts.

If you're a c*nt you try and work in a position which allows you to be as cuntish as possible. Being a copper gives you massive c*nt abilities.

Just about sums it up

vicgill · « **Reply #118 on:** November 19, 2012, 10:34:20 AM »

Quote from: Graeme on November 19, 2012, 09:53:10 AM

Maybe. I've watched the CCTV footage again this morning and the woman is being a complete pain in the arse, doing everything she can to resist being put in the cell which leads to the use of force in the first place.

Its hard to tell what happens really, but to me it looks like he's pulling her into the cell and she's resisting and its almost like she stops resisting as he's pulling which gives the impression he's yanked her in with force, but I do think her resisting then stopping leads to the impression he pulled her in more excessively than he actually did.

Brilliant defence that Graeme, if ever I need a Lawyer may I call you

Graeme · « **Reply #119 on:** November 19, 2012, 10:40:13 AM »

In all seriousness I'm not saying that is what happened, I'm saying its a possibility. The CCTV is slightly inconclusive because from within the cell you can't see how much she is resisting being pulled in, and the CCTV from the foyer area isn't great at that distance either. I guess only Sgt. Andrews knows for sure whether his force was excessive.

What I would say if she wasn't being such a stupid bitch then none of this would have happened. That of course isn't an reason for her to be assaulted, if indeed she was assaulted.