Topic: Song for Joe Cole

[Stanno06]

We really have got some wank stains masquerading as supporters!

What the fuck has his weekly wage got to do with it? Like it's his fault he was given the contract.

I was at the game today and people were genuinely pleased when the lad came on and scored. Give the lad a break and start acting like Liverpool supporters!

[MushyP15]

I've always liked Joe Cole, even when he was a rent boy. Bit of a shame that it's turned out the way it has for him because I think he's an honest guy. I remember the celebrations when he first scored in contrast to his goal today. It looks like he knows he's on his way out which must be gutting for him.

Everyone's saying that, but I'm not sure he is on his way out. To me he celebrated like someone who scored a pretty shit goal thy should have been saved, not forgetting it was the fifth in a comfortable rout. Looked more embarrassed than regretful to me.

And before people start getting upset, I say 'shit' simply because the keeper should have saved it with his eyes shut.

[Matt8Pie]

Everyone's saying that, but I'm not sure he is on his way out. To me he celebrated like someone who scored a pretty shit goal thy should have been saved, not forgetting it was the fifth in a comfortable rout. Looked more embarrassed than regretful to me.

And before people start getting upset, I say 'shit' simply because the keeper should have saved it with his eyes shut.

For me, if I was working for FSG then I'd look at the policy John Henry wants to install and Joe Cole's contract. They've been totally open about wanting younger players and getting rid of massive contracts like Joe's. For his wages, someone of his age and the lack of impact he's had on the team this season, it really doesn't look good for him. Sure, it may not be his fault he's on the contract he's on but you've got to wonder where the management see the benefit of having him next season.

Do I have a problem with Joe Cole? Not really, no. He could do with getting his head down and getting fitter because he's not had great endurance this season but I've always wanted him to do well.

[MKelly34]

We really have got some wank stains masquerading as supporters!

What the fuck has his weekly wage got to do with it? Like it's his fault he was given the contract.

I was at the game today and people were genuinely pleased when the lad came on and scored. Give the lad a break and start acting like Liverpool supporters!

God bless you for this post.

[MushyP15]

For me, if I was working for FSG then I'd look at the policy John Henry wants to install and Joe Cole's contract. They've been totally open about wanting younger players and getting rid of massive contracts like Joe's. For his wages, someone of his age and the lack of impact he's had on the team this season, it really doesn't look good for him. Sure, it may not be his fault he's on the contract he's on but you've got to wonder where the management see the benefit of having him next season.

Do I have a problem with Joe Cole? Not really, no. He could do with getting his head down and getting fitter because he's not had great endurance this season but I've always wanted him to do well.

You're missing some key points though.
A) he was free, so his overall cost is still low
B) what YOU want may not necessarily tally with Comolli and FSG. They may still see value in him.
C) he's had one difficult season. Kenny and Clarkey will probably be expecting more next season.
D) who the fuck would sign him anyway?

I think he still has a role to play.

[dsmith22208]

You're missing some key points though.
A) he was free, so his overall cost is still low
B) what YOU want may not necessarily tally with Comolli and FSG. They may still see value in him.
C) he's had one difficult season. Kenny and Clarkey will probably be expecting more next season.
D) who the fuck would sign him anyway?

I think he still has a role to play.

LMAO at point D.........

[Matt8Pie]

You're missing some key points though.
A) he was free, so his overall cost is still low
B) what YOU want may not necessarily tally with Comolli and FSG. They may still see value in him.
C) he's had one difficult season. Kenny and Clarkey will probably be expecting more next season.
D) who the fuck would sign him anyway?

I think he still has a role to play.

He wasn't free when you consider the signing on fee of £5million and the £90,000+ a week wages he's on doesn't mean his overall cost is low. I'm not saying I want him out of the club, but from a managerial perspective where you're paying the guy, you would be thinking about the points I mentioned. That's the issue I was raising in regards to his future. John Henry et al aren't there to see the value a player has on the pitch, that's up to Kenny and his team including Comolli. Considering Kenny hasn't played Cole much, as I said, it doesn't look too good for him. I'm not swinging either way on whether Joe Cole should stay or go, I'm just sitting back and seeing what happens.

[Danny_]

He's injury prone and we are paying him huge wages.  It's a bit like the Kewell transfer except even worse as we haven't got many decent performances from Joe.  At least Kewell had a good first half of a season.  If we can get rid of him, we will.  But, as others have said, who would buy him at those wages.  We just have to hope he gets himself in order and starts to play at the level we all hoped he was capable of.

[rlpolobear9]

I want a reeeeeebate reeeeeeebate reeeeeebate for the all the money we waaaaasted on you now get out and go to westham and and play in the championship

[Britican]

I have to admit that I'm not very good at these but perhaps something along the lines of OLD JOE COLE WAS A FAT ARSED OLD SOUL...  (to the tune of Old King Cole)

[thedunnyman]

I thought Joe Cole did alright for the short spurt he had on field.

My mate and I actually thought he was Suarez when he cut in and did some dribbling tricks and then finally scored.
(Which is a good thing)

But like many of you are saying, I don't mind this high-paid player oldie out for a youngster.

[jooneyisdagod]

Looked bereft of confidence and when he scored, I thought he had the look of a man who firstly knew it was a fortuitous goal and secondly, is very disappointed with how the season has gone for him.  I thought he looked like he had a long way to go before he hit peak match fitness and his touch seemed surprisingly poor.  There was very little conviction to his play.  But all that said, I like him.  I think he has behaved himself impeccably at the club and there is no way I can shout abuse at the fella.  Maybe what he needs is a proper pre season and maybe if he can get his sharpness back, he may find his touch again because it was almost sad watching him yesterday.

[Andy]

Looked bereft of confidence and when he scored, I thought he had the look of a man who firstly knew it was a fortuitous goal and secondly, is very disappointed with how the season has gone for him.  I thought he looked like he had a long way to go before he hit peak match fitness and his touch seemed surprisingly poor.  There was very little conviction to his play.  But all that said, I like him.  I think he has behaved himself impeccably at the club and there is no way I can shout abuse at the fella.  Maybe what he needs is a proper pre season and maybe if he can get his sharpness back, he may find his touch again because it was almost sad watching him yesterday.

This. Regardless if wages etc, he can still be a very useful player for us.

At the very least, he's one of the few players at our club that has experience of winning the league...

[nonkiwi-nonblue]

His goal was the exact epitome of his season.
Dwelled on the ball, took a few too many touches.
Had players in the box in better positions, but still took the shot on.
Lucky it deflected in, as he had many more, and better options in the box, and would have copped a tongue lashing if he missed.
Glad he scored though, will give him some confidence.
Good to see the players around him to celebrate with him, but still think he's too selfish at times, and tries to do too much.
Really needs to look past first time instead of trying to take touches on and beat defenders.

[royhendo]

Really needs to leave for another club.

[scouse29]

His game time to his wages are a joke. I dont see him being here next season 4 league games left and were still having the debate about him still being able to do a job.

He has offered very little when played and his levels of fitness are a disgrace for a pro

[TheDpoLenz without the please like]

We really have got some wank stains masquerading as supporters!

What the fuck has his weekly wage got to do with it? Like it's his fault he was given the contract.

I was at the game today and people were genuinely pleased when the lad came on and scored. Give the lad a break and start acting like Liverpool supporters!

That is the only reason he chose to be at this football club.We were offering him the highest wage.I hope we can get him out in the summer.

A good lad but hope he goes.

[its cold in the stands]

That is the only reason he chose to be at this football club.We were offering him the highest wage.I hope we can get him out in the summer.

A good lad but hope he goes.

joe cole wouldnt be the only person on the planet who decided to work for someone who is prepared to pay them more than anyone else.
he hasnt exactly been a huge success here but i think cole is getting unfair stick because he was signed by purslow, thats not his fault.
he hasnt been great this season but considering how little footy he has played he has done well in terms of creativity imo.
he`s layed on a few goals for players (like to torres against blackburn) and he`d have a lot more assists if other players had their finishing boots on, david ngog missed an absolute sitter of a header away in europe when cole put him in and danny pacheco f##ked up a one on one with the keeper when cole put him through as well.
there`s been quite a few times thats happened, early on in the season (about october / november) i think i counted ten good chances that cole had created that other players had failed to convert.
for all his faults he is quite creative.

[mattsant]

Offload him

[ClaireW]

I love all this speculation about why Cole apparently looked unhappy after scoring (primarily in the photo thread).  He looked a bit embarrassed.  He's not the first player to look a bit sheepish when they have scored a weak, lucky goal. 

If he does hate it here, he could just leave.  If he is embarrassed by earning 90k or whatever it is for warming our bench, then he could take a drop in pay. 

Plus he needs more support from us?  Why?   I have not heard the crowd boo him, generally abuse him, or do that collective groan should he have the audacity to play a ball wrong.   The same cannot be said for other players, like Lucas, who have had to hear unwarranted abuse and booing personally, whose song is only just starting to reach the masses this season at Anfield.

He may get stick on here or on phone ins but if he has any sense (which I am sure he does) he won't pay any attention.  At the ground he is just another player and when he comes on he gets support. Fair enough, people don't wank over him like they do other new signings, but there has been indifference shown to countless players over the years and they have just got on with it. 

I remember signing Ziege in 2000 (?) and instantly he had a song you would hear week in, week out.  Yet there was Carragher, 3 or 4 years in still without any real acknowledgement from the crowd, never mind a song!  Look how their two careers at the club have differed.  Ziege played maybe 35 games? 



 

[scouse29]

I love all this speculation about why Cole apparently looked unhappy after scoring (primarily in the photo thread).  He looked a bit embarrassed.  He's not the first player to look a bit sheepish when they have scored a weak, lucky goal. 

If he does hate it here, he could just leave.  If he is embarrassed by earning 90k or whatever it is for warming our bench, then he could take a drop in pay. 

Plus he needs more support from us?  Why?   I have not heard the crowd boo him, generally abuse him, or do that collective groan should he have the audacity to play a ball wrong.   The same cannot be said for other players, like Lucas, who have had to hear unwarranted abuse and booing personally, whose song is only just starting to reach the masses this season at Anfield.

He may get stick on here or on phone ins but if he has any sense (which I am sure he does) he won't pay any attention.  At the ground he is just another player and when he comes on he gets support. Fair enough, people don't wank over him like they do other new signings, but there has been indifference shown to countless players over the years and they have just got on with it. 

I remember signing Ziege in 2000 (?) and instantly he had a song you would hear week in, week out.  Yet there was Carragher, 3 or 4 years in still without any real acknowledgement from the crowd, never mind a song!  Look how their two careers at the club have differed.  Ziege played maybe 35 games? 



 

Why does he need more support? His performances when he has played have been below what i would expect in terms of effort and desire.

[crackerbox]

Looked bereft of confidence and when he scored, I thought he had the look of a man who firstly knew it was a fortuitous goal and secondly, is very disappointed with how the season has gone for him.  I thought he looked like he had a long way to go before he hit peak match fitness and his touch seemed surprisingly poor.  There was very little conviction to his play.  But all that said, I like him.  I think he has behaved himself impeccably at the club and there is no way I can shout abuse at the fella.  Maybe what he needs is a proper pre season and maybe if he can get his sharpness back, he may find his touch again because it was almost sad watching him yesterday.

this. I feel the same

[ClaireW]

Why does he need more support? His performances when he has played have been below what i would expect in terms of effort and desire.

All I am saying is countless players have received less support than he has and stuck with it.  Some have even received abuse, unwarranted booing and still come good.  Hopefully he will come through this period of indifference.

If playing for LFC is not enough to motivate him then maybe he's at the wrong club?  Though I am not about to start slagging him off, as that wasn't the point of my original post.

[Zlenpasha]

I'll gladly take my badge of 'Worst supporter to live' if it's what you get for saying that Cole needs to be booted from the club at the first chance.
So what if he wears red and so what if he scored a goal?
Still looks unfit, that says it all to me about his desire to play for Liverpool VS his desire to just collect checks from Liverpool.

[Azzandro]

Lets look on the plus side..

He's scored...3 goals for us? (2 in the league, 1 in europa?)

Hasn't been that injured

Was free

I thought he would be a much better player than he is, the fact that several top class managers keep him on the bench says something too.

And he looked embarassed for scoring that goal, as all his decision making and technique was poor but got lucky by sloppy goalkeeping

[Passmaster Molby]

Like Hodgson he just doesn't suit our club and should be moved on this summer. In a team that tries to play pass and move he holds onto the ball a bit too much for my liking.

[liv8me]

Thanks joe but you got to go.
I rather have Dani Pacheco on the bench, some who I believe have qualities to become a star.

[lfcbob]

Fuck me i hope Poulsen dosnt score well be thinking of a song for him ....

[nonkiwi-nonblue]

Looked bereft of confidence and when he scored, I thought he had the look of a man who firstly knew it was a fortuitous goal and secondly, is very disappointed with how the season has gone for him.  I thought he looked like he had a long way to go before he hit peak match fitness and his touch seemed surprisingly poor.  There was very little conviction to his play.  But all that said, I like him.  I think he has behaved himself impeccably at the club and there is no way I can shout abuse at the fella.  Maybe what he needs is a proper pre season and maybe if he can get his sharpness back, he may find his touch again because it was almost sad watching him yesterday.

He had a full pre-season before this season, but that did him no good.
Looks unbelievably unfit - still, lacking his touch, slow on the ball.
Don't think he's going to work here, and I'd say he would want first team and starting football.

[Bob Loblaw]

wages aside even, he's been a disastrous signing and someone that needs moving on in the Summer. and yes, exorbitant his wages put to better use.

was that too venomous?

[MKelly34]

Fuck me i hope Poulsen dosnt score well be thinking of a song for him ....

That wasn't Cole's first goal. And Poulsen is a horrible, horrible player.

[scouse29]

Lets look on the plus side..

He's scored...3 goals for us? (2 in the league, 1 in europa?)

Hasn't been that injured

Was free

I thought he would be a much better player than he is, the fact that several top class managers keep him on the bench says something too.

And he looked embarassed for scoring that goal, as all his decision making and technique was poor but got lucky by sloppy goalkeeping

Whats free about a 4 year deal worth 5m a year?

[soberphobia]

Like has been posted he is on a massive wedge plus had a 5 mill signing on fee. Purslow really took it up the arse when negotiating this deal but that is not Coles fault. When he steps out in a liverpool shirt i want him to play well but would prefer that he was moved on at the end of the year. Giving players time to settle is for youngsters or players from other countries at times not senior players from the PL.

No matter which way you look at it this signing has been a disaster. Coles unprofessional physical presentation just rubs salt into the wounds of supporters and irks people who expect and demand better from a professional. He can't run  a game out properly and looks like he dines at the McNasty's drive thru.

[tea_tree]

We were duped. I can't believe Chelsea got Yossi while we ended up with their reject

[MKelly34]

We were duped. I can't believe Chelsea got Yossi while we ended up with their reject

Cole scored more than Torres and Benayoun so far.

[jckliew]

Cole scored more than Torres and Benayoun so far.

hahaha! wHATTA Stat!

[tea_tree]

Cole scored more than Torres and Benayoun so far.

I'm sure Yossi got injured pretty early into the season and only made his first post-injury appearance a few weeks ago

[MKelly34]

All I'm trying to say is that this is not the worst deal ever. We should be talking about how we bought Poulsen from Juventus and loaned then Aquilani. That was a lousy piece of business.

At least Cole is trying hard, and scored on his last game after coming off the bench, what more do you want? Some more support would be nice 

[jckliew]

All I'm trying to say is that this is not the worst deal ever. We should be talking about how we bought Poulsen from Juventus and loaned then Aquilani. That was a lousy piece of business.

At least Cole is trying hard, and scored on his last game after coming off the bench, what more do you want? Some more support would be nice  

This.

[Andy @ Allerton]

He's the only footballer I've ever seen that looks fatter and more unfit than me.