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Re: Sports most overrated..
« Reply #240 on: July 26, 2010, 03:21:17 AM »

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Re: Sports most overrated..
« Reply #241 on: July 26, 2010, 04:06:01 AM »
Couldn't agree more. Literally get goosebumps when I people say "the Makalele position"
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Re: Sports most overrated..
« Reply #242 on: July 26, 2010, 05:29:37 AM »
Shame on you. When you are the best at what you do, its hard to be overrated.

Exactly.

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Re: Sports most overrated..
« Reply #243 on: July 26, 2010, 06:06:08 AM »
Shame on you. When you are the best at what you do, its hard to be overrated.
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Re: Sports most overrated..
« Reply #244 on: July 26, 2010, 06:08:34 AM »
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Re: Sports most overrated..
« Reply #245 on: July 26, 2010, 06:17:59 AM »
Mr. Ferguson's "Mind Games"

I really think the media is trying to make too much of his words. Making him try to look smarter than he really is.

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Re: Sports most overrated..
« Reply #246 on: July 26, 2010, 09:32:44 AM »
Xavi overrated? Jesus christ I really have heard it all now.

You do wonder how people can view thing so differently. I think 99.99% of anyone who knows anything about football would tell you that Xavi deserves all the plaudits he gets. Just an incredible footballer, as pure as you like. In a game that is fast becoming one played by athletes rather than skilled players, he dominates midfield week in week out. An incredible passer of the ball, decision making spot on, holds on to the ball as well as anyone, and dictates play to his own tune.

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Re: Sports most overrated..
« Reply #247 on: July 26, 2010, 11:10:26 AM »
I have to say, it's quite difficult to do it about non-footballers because football is the only sport with the huge meeja coverage and inane analysis of utter bollocks.
Of course, any British boxer that puts 3 wins together is suddenly over-hyped beyond belief.
But you look at the feats accomplished in any other sport and you actually realise just how underhyped they are, and how distorted everything is inside the football bubble.
But, due to my outstanding grasp of football, I believe the following players to be mutton dressed as lamb...

Nicolas Anelka (I saw what the fuss was about when he was 18 or 19, but not since he left Arsenal)

Theo Walcott (That hat-trick for England has done him no favours)

Nemanja Vidic (Would be sent off every other game if he played for any other club in England)

Thomas Muller (funny one this, I was hyping him up before the World Cup, but the WC has really raised expectations)

Wayne Rooney (I was lauding Rooney last season, and he IS immense at times, but quality teams tend to deal with him)

Wesley Sneijder (He's quality, granted, but he's had a purple patch and some lucky WC goals as well)

Gerard Pique (The jury's still out on how well he can defend, which as a defender is pretty important)

Mario Balotelli (To be honest, I think it's only Man City that are over-rating him, but he still deserves to be on the list)

Angel Di Maria (Has bags of talent but I think he's made too big a step from benfica wide man-to WC finals-to Real madrid)

David Silva (He's got everything to prove, and Man City will be the biggest test of his life)

Sergio Busquets (It's lovely to play defensive mid for two teams who seldom give the ball away)

Franck Ribery (Has done well in two countries, France and Germany, but been woeful usually when it matters in big games)




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Re: Sports most overrated..
« Reply #248 on: July 26, 2010, 11:13:11 AM »
they are athlets and can count in the list.

No, they are fucking actors who's every move inside and outside of the ring is choreographed. How can they be over-rated when it is all stage-managed and practised down to the smallest detail beforehand?

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Re: Sports most overrated..
« Reply #249 on: July 26, 2010, 11:13:40 AM »
I think that's harsh on Beckham, i'm hardly his biggest fan but I wouldn't call him a c*nt, he's never had anything bad to say about Liverpool, or anyone for that matter - and he was a quality footballer in his pomp.

Though Rooney is the biggest one for me, followed by Terry, Ferdinand, Lampard, Carrick.

Oh and they're all English! Now there's a surprise.

Outside of that there is;

Vidic, Balotelli (30M?), Cech

I'm sure there are more that I can't think of atm
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Re: Sports most overrated..
« Reply #250 on: July 26, 2010, 12:44:03 PM »
Juan Sebastien Veron? lol he was overrated wasnt he! Juninho at middlesborough?
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Re: Sports most overrated..
« Reply #251 on: July 26, 2010, 12:58:48 PM »
Cech

He probably was that good before he fractured his skull. Since he came back, I'd agree that he has been overrated.
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Re: Sports most overrated..
« Reply #252 on: July 26, 2010, 01:24:15 PM »
Vidic undoubtedly. 

And Jimmy White.

Oh and Ivan Lendl.

Not forgetting Colin Hendry.
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Re: Sports most overrated..
« Reply #253 on: July 26, 2010, 01:42:10 PM »
Roger Federer
In what way is he overrated?

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Re: Sports most overrated..
« Reply #254 on: July 26, 2010, 01:43:07 PM »
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Re: Sports most overrated..
« Reply #255 on: July 26, 2010, 02:48:53 PM »
Duncan Ferguson, if you're a blue obviously!
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Re: Sports most overrated..
« Reply #256 on: July 26, 2010, 02:49:10 PM »
Laughable. He's the guy that destoryed Barrera, Morales, De La Hoya, Hatton, Cotto who will all likely head to the HOF.
He then has a win and draw over another HOF in Marquez, a win against current world champion Jorge Solis, three weight world champion Oscar Larios and a guy who weighed 41 pounds more than when he started his career in Joshua Clottey.
In all that he has won seven world titles and is going for his eighth against Margarito in November. He's definitely is not overrated, unlike say Hatton or if we're going on current boxers, Lucian Bute.

First of all, talking about overrating sportsmen, holy fuck. Hatton and Morales future HOFs? Barrera was past his prime when he fought Manny, as were De La Hoya and Hatton. He beat Cotto on points and yes it was a convincing win. but not everyone goes into the HOF mate.

I don't know if you watched the Pacquiao-Marquez fights, but to most boxing experts, and boxing fans, it was clear to see Marquez won the first fight, and arguably the second. Manny's open style has clear flaws as shown in the first Erik Morales fight. Morales had him figured out by the 4th round. That said, Pacquiao beat Morales in the next two fights between the pair, using the blueprint that was set by Barrera a few years earlier.

All I'm saying is that modern boxing media and the boxing "fans" have bigged Manny Pacquiao up to be one of the best of all time, when that simply isn't the case. He is a very open fighter and he is alot more hitable than people think, but we won't really  see that until he fights Floyd Mayweather. Mayweather will pick apart Manny over 12 rounds with counter straights and combos. and comfortably win it on points.

Just heard in the news Manny Pacquiao's next fight will be against proven cheat Antonio Margarito. Thats what we all wanted to see huh?  ::) Talk about handpicking opponents, Pacquiao and Bob Arum are blatently avoiding Timothy Bradley and Paul Williams, because they know Manny will have serious problems against either fighter and obviously Bob Arum doesn't want to risk taking on the real contenders.

Manny Pacquiao IS a great fighter, no questioning that, but we all know he'll easily put away Margarito. Best of all time my arse. It just grates with me how he beats an over the hill De La Hoya and an untrained Ricky Hatton and suddenly he is touted the best boxer since Ali.

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Re: Sports most overrated..
« Reply #258 on: July 26, 2010, 03:09:38 PM »
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« Reply #259 on: July 26, 2010, 03:56:36 PM »
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Re: Sports most overrated..
« Reply #260 on: July 26, 2010, 04:10:12 PM »
Juan Sebastien Veron? lol he was overrated wasnt he!

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Re: Sports most overrated..
« Reply #261 on: July 26, 2010, 04:23:53 PM »
Robinho. Stick to playing in Brazil mate.

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Re: Sports most overrated..
« Reply #262 on: July 26, 2010, 04:32:48 PM »
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Re: Sports most overrated..
« Reply #263 on: July 26, 2010, 05:16:50 PM »
Mike  Atherton

Possibly a bit harsh. For years he had to carry the responsibility of holding together a pretty fragile batting line up knowing that if he fell early there was a fair chance the whole innings would collapse. He was marked as a Future England Captain before he even made his debut and had loads of pressure to deal with almost from the start of his career. He then had his chronic back problems that affected the last few years of his career to the extent that his average dwindled away quite quickly. One of those who’s stats don’t do justice to his importance to the team I reckon.

That said he is a Manc after all so he’s fair game in this thread!

Back to football and can I nominate Emerson (the Boro version) and Emerson (the Juve version)…The latter captained Brazil didn’t he? And had an important role for Juve and Roma yet never impressed me when I saw him. Not that my opinion counts for much but still.
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Re: Sports most overrated..
« Reply #264 on: July 26, 2010, 05:21:26 PM »
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Re: Sports most overrated..
« Reply #265 on: July 26, 2010, 05:33:16 PM »
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Bit harsh, when he won the world cup he almost singlehandely kept the italian defense tight. Specially when they lost Alessandro Nesta

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Re: Sports most overrated..
« Reply #266 on: July 26, 2010, 05:38:13 PM »
Possibly a bit harsh. For years he had to carry the responsibility of holding together a pretty fragile batting line up knowing that if he fell early there was a fair chance the whole innings would collapse. He was marked as a Future England Captain before he even made his debut and had loads of pressure to deal with almost from the start of his career. He then had his chronic back problems that affected the last few years of his career to the extent that his average dwindled away quite quickly. One of those who’s stats don’t do justice to his importance to the team I reckon.

That said he is a Manc after all so he’s fair game in this thread!

Back to football and can I nominate Emerson (the Boro version) and Emerson (the Juve version)…The latter captained Brazil didn’t he? And had an important role for Juve and Roma yet never impressed me when I saw him. Not that my opinion counts for much but still.


How many runs did he get against the really top sides? He was in McGrath's pocket, his 'bunny'. He never shone against Courtney or Curtly.  He was a self confessed non-walker. His great knock against South Africa was tainted by a bad umpiring decision, when Alan Donald clearly had him out caught off the glove.

His Captaincy was dour and uninspiring. His commentating is dour and uninspiring. I remember the last day of the Oval Test match in 2005 when the spectators were cheering when they went off for bad light early in the day. He said he couldn't understand why spectators would cheer when they had spent so much money on a test ticket. Why didn't they want to watch cricket? He was heard to say. He just didn't get how much the people wanted to win the Ashes after such a long wait.

Uninspiring, insipid, dour and a Manc to boot. No wonder Sky wank over him.
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Re: Sports most overrated..
« Reply #267 on: July 26, 2010, 05:39:51 PM »
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Re: Sports most overrated..
« Reply #268 on: July 26, 2010, 05:44:40 PM »
Not forgetting Colin Hendry.

I am not a huge fan of Hendry but how exactly is he overrated? You do realise he's won more ranking events than anyone in the world don't you?

You can add many many other honours he holds. Like Most maximums (joint with Ronnie) and by faaar the most centuries.

Overated? don't be stupid.

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« Reply #269 on: July 26, 2010, 05:46:31 PM »
I am not a huge fan of Hendry but how exactly is he overrated? You do realise he's won more ranking events than anyone in the world don't you?

You can add many many other honours he holds. Like Most maximums (joint with Ronnie) and by faaar the most centuries.

Overated? don't be stupid.

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Re: Sports most overrated..
« Reply #270 on: July 26, 2010, 05:46:44 PM »
David Beckham. He was a good player undoubtably but he wasn't one of the worlds great players as the media seems to treat him.

If he looked like Gary Neville, he would not have anything like the publicity either!

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Re: Sports most overrated..
« Reply #271 on: July 26, 2010, 05:47:37 PM »

Uninspiring, insipid, dour and a Manc to boot. No wonder Sky wank over him.

Haha when you put it like that!...The innings where he didn't walk against Donald wasn't his greatest one where he batted out for the draw though (which in itself is a sign of the time he was playing in).

I am not a huge fan of Hendry but how exactly is he overrated? You do realise he's won more ranking events than anyone in the world don't you?

You can add many many other honours he holds. Like Most maximums (joint with Ronnie) and by faaar the most centuries.

Overated? don't be stupid.

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« Reply #272 on: July 26, 2010, 05:47:47 PM »
Bit harsh, when he won the world cup he almost singlehandely kept the italian defense tight. Specially when they lost Alessandro Nesta

Grosso and Zambrotta were brilliant in the World Cup. Clearly he isn't shit (well, he is, but he wasn't then) but he was unbelievably overrated in the 2 season after the 2006 World Cup.

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Re: Sports most overrated..
« Reply #273 on: July 26, 2010, 05:48:04 PM »
Colin or Stephen????  :)


Haha don't I look stupid?

Who on earth overrates Colin Hendry? Who even rated Colin Hendry.

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Re: Sports most overrated..
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Re: Sports most overrated..
« Reply #275 on: July 26, 2010, 05:49:07 PM »
I am not a huge fan of Hendry but how exactly is he overrated? You do realise he's won more ranking events than anyone in the world don't you?

You can add many many other honours he holds. Like Most maximums (joint with Ronnie) and by faaar the most centuries.

Overated? don't be stupid.
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Re: Sports most overrated..
« Reply #276 on: July 26, 2010, 05:50:33 PM »
Allllright we all get it. I misread his post. Yes, I am stupid.

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« Reply #277 on: July 26, 2010, 05:51:31 PM »
Haha don't I look stupid?

Who on earth overrates Colin Hendry? Who even rated Colin Hendry.
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Good one  :)

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« Reply #278 on: July 26, 2010, 05:51:33 PM »
Allllright we all get it. I misread his post. Yes, I am stupid.
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Re: Sports most overrated..
« Reply #279 on: July 26, 2010, 05:51:52 PM »
Grosso and Zambrotta were brilliant in the World Cup. Clearly he isn't shit (well, he is, but he wasn't then) but he was unbelievably overrated in the 2 season after the 2006 World Cup.

Must admit I knew him before the world cup but didn't much follow him afterwards so can't really comment on it.
I would say he is overrated now, wasn't back in 2005/2006