Author Topic: Danny Wilson Discussion Thread (Read 70032 times)

Gnurglan · « **Reply #480 on:** December 30, 2011, 08:07:56 AM »

Quote from: PIPA23 on December 30, 2011, 07:18:02 AM

i´m pretty sure the reason why we bought Coates is becouse we didn´t manage to get Phil Jones...

We wanted Phil Jones as back up to mostly injured Agger at that time to partner either Carra, but i think more of the partnership with Skrtel..

I´m pleased Agger is fit and that the partnership with Skrtel is developing so nice...but this means even less need for so many CB players we have atm... Coates is a top prospect, Carra is not going to be younger and with Agger - Skrtel partnership, there is a bad place to be for Wilson..

I wouldn´t want to see him go other than loan though....

We should send him on loan, to get some competitive football. So I'd be surprised if he's not sent on loan, or sold in January.

IMO the likely move is that we'll send him on loan and then he'll never return. He's off at the end of the season.
The daring move would be to loan him out now, say goodbye to Carra at the end of the season and have Wilson fill his role as the 4th CB, a role he could share with Kelly.

blah · « **Reply #481 on:** December 30, 2011, 08:21:03 AM »

If he goes I hope it is only on loan. Of course if the coaching team sees something I don't, and they surely would, I accept and support their decision if he is to leave permanently.

TOMMO86 · « **Reply #482 on:** December 30, 2011, 08:21:57 AM »

I don't think you will see Kenny getting rid of Danny that easy. Very highly rated by Clarke and Dalglish. A loan maybe but it won't be a case of kaysarasara.

penga · « **Reply #483 on:** December 30, 2011, 08:41:36 AM »

Didn't he have some trouble trying to find somewhere to go on loan? It would be the most obvious option though.

If he was to go permanently we should definitely be putting buy-back or sell-on clauses into the deal because he won't go for very much but could turn into a gem.

Schmidt · « **Reply #484 on:** December 30, 2011, 12:28:07 PM »

Quote from: TOMMO86 on December 30, 2011, 08:21:57 AM

I don't think you will see Kenny getting rid of Danny that easy. Very highly rated by Clarke and Dalglish. A loan maybe but it won't be a case of kaysarasara.

We're letting him leave according to scott, not sure if that's as a loan deal or not though.

Quote from: scott on December 29, 2011, 01:08:30 PM

ye mate, hoping to sign 2/3 players we are. dont know yet whos leaving. wilson/brad jones/eccleston all been made available so far

scouse29 · « **Reply #485 on:** December 30, 2011, 01:05:51 PM »

Nothing stopping him getting a loan deal now. Move to Bolton perhaps as Cahill is off?

hassinator · « **Reply #486 on:** December 30, 2011, 03:18:44 PM »

Quote from: subroc on December 30, 2011, 04:09:41 AM

If he is going off, it will probably be for a loan - I can't imagine that the club will want to be rid of him so quickly without giving him a proper opportunity to develop and to see if he is good enough for the long run.

disagree. i think he's done here. wisdom looks better at reserve level and wilson hasn't taken his chances.

if he goes on loan it will be to get him off the wages bill - maybe back to rangers?

hassinator · « **Reply #487 on:** December 30, 2011, 03:19:44 PM »

Quote from: PIPA23 on December 30, 2011, 07:18:02 AM

i´m pretty sure the reason why we bought Coates is becouse we didn´t manage to get Phil Jones...

agreed. if only. he could be filling in for lucas now that agger and skrtel are rock solid in the centre of defence.

Nessy76 · « **Reply #488 on:** December 30, 2011, 03:42:54 PM »

Quote from: PIPA23 on December 30, 2011, 07:18:02 AM

i´m pretty sure the reason why we bought Coates is becouse we didn´t manage to get Phil Jones...

We wanted Phil Jones as back up to mostly injured Agger at that time to partner either Carra, but i think more of the partnership with Skrtel..

I´m pleased Agger is fit and that the partnership with Skrtel is developing so nice...but this means even less need for so many CB players we have atm... Coates is a top prospect, Carra is not going to be younger and with Agger - Skrtel partnership, there is a bad place to be for Wilson..

I wouldn´t want to see him go other than loan though....

My approach to CBs is that you usually need four. Two first choice who should play the majority of games together. For me, that's now got to be Agger and Skrtel. Then you need two for cover. We all know Agger's legs are made of lego and it's only a matter of time before he's out for a few months. Defenders also tend to pick up cards over the season. So currently we have Carragher and Coates as cover. It wouldn't exactly shock me if Carragher decided that his playing days might be drawing to a close and either retired or took more of a squad role while he focussed on getting his coaching badges or whatever he wants to do next (open more restaurants, whatever)

So next season, we'd be looking at an Agger/Skrtel 1st choice partnership with Coates in reserve and maybe room for one more. If we had to pick between Kelly and Wilson, I think most of us would go with Kelly for that role. But a lot depends on how his game develops. He's currently cover at right back, and if that is where he ends up playing more regularly then we'd still need 1 more for cover in the middle.

I'd like to see Wilson go off on loan somewhere and try to make his case for being that player. If nothing else, it would get him some exposure so that if we decided to let him go, we'd have a chance of getting a decent fee.

No666 · « **Reply #489 on:** December 30, 2011, 03:48:35 PM »

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So next season, we'd be looking at an Agger/Skrtel 1st choice partnership with Coates in reserve and maybe room for one more. If we had to pick between Kelly and Wilson, I think most of us would go with Kelly for that role. But a lot depends on how his game develops. He's currently cover at right back, and if that is where he ends up playing more regularly then we'd still need 1 more for cover in the middle.

Dominic King said we were interested in Fucile, so if Kelly was being groomed for two back-up roles, and Aurelio leaving, that would make a bit of sense. Wasn't Wilson supposed to have been a bit picky about potential loan placements?

trembles97 · « **Reply #490 on:** December 30, 2011, 04:07:00 PM »

I think Wisdom is better than him. He needs to go out on loan, but I don't have much hope for him if I'm being honest.

Tony18:5 · « **Reply #491 on:** December 30, 2011, 04:41:26 PM »

Quote from: scouse29 on December 30, 2011, 01:05:51 PM

Nothing stopping him getting a loan deal now. Move to Bolton perhaps as Cahill is off?

Was thinking the same myself, that is if Cahill isnt being too greedy and the deal gets done?

Juan Loco · « **Reply #492 on:** December 30, 2011, 04:42:27 PM »

Quote from: TOMMO86 on December 30, 2011, 08:21:57 AM

I don't think you will see Kenny getting rid of Danny that easy. Very highly rated by Clarke and Dalglish. A loan maybe but it won't be a case of kaysarasara.

I wouldn't expect many Turkish clubs to be interested in him.

rocco · « **Reply #493 on:** December 30, 2011, 04:46:43 PM »

Last game I seen him play was for Scotland and he was top draw

A loan to Bolton seems perfect

theparrot · « **Reply #494 on:** December 30, 2011, 05:21:52 PM »

He seems quite a pussy. I can't remember him ever looking really dominant in a challenge and coming away with the ball. Kelly, Flanagan and Robinson all look like they can compete at this level whereas Wilson just seems too soft. Perhaps he'll develop that edge eventually. A buy back clause would be essential if we sold him.

Fauxy · « **Reply #495 on:** December 30, 2011, 05:26:37 PM »

Quote from: theparrot on December 30, 2011, 05:21:52 PM

He seems quite a pussy. I can't remember him ever looking really dominant in a challenge and coming away with the ball. Kelly, Flanagan and Robinson all look like they can compete at this level whereas Wilson just seems too soft. Perhaps he'll develop that edge eventually. A buy back clause would be essential if we sold him.

Didnt watch him while he played for Rangers did you?

theparrot · « **Reply #496 on:** December 30, 2011, 05:29:26 PM »

No, not once! He's a tough Scot then?

El_Pistolero · « **Reply #497 on:** December 30, 2011, 05:33:38 PM »

So, basically, you haven't watched him yet you've come to the conclusion that he's a 'pussy'? Pretty sure he's a very good attacker of the ball IIRC too. Haven't seen him for a while though, bar that one reserve game where he looked rusty as fuck.

Hopefully he gets a loan dead sorted this coming window.

theparrot · « **Reply #498 on:** December 30, 2011, 05:38:50 PM »

He must have played 10 games in a red shirt if you include the reserves. 10 games is enough to form an opinion on a player in my eyes.

Aido LFC · « **Reply #499 on:** December 30, 2011, 05:39:55 PM »

Quote from: theparrot on December 30, 2011, 05:38:50 PM

He must have played 10 games in a red shirt if you include the reserves. 10 games is enough to form an opinion on a player in my eyes.

He hasn't played a single game at centre back though except for the reserves.

Samee · « **Reply #500 on:** December 30, 2011, 05:50:12 PM »

A loan spell to Bolton once Cahill is gone perhaps?

DAVO1 · « **Reply #501 on:** December 30, 2011, 05:55:36 PM »

Quote from: theparrot on December 30, 2011, 05:38:50 PM

He must have played 10 games in a red shirt if you include the reserves. 10 games is enough to form an opinion on a player in my eyes.

Lucas Leiva

Which is why you must never form an opinion again with those eyes.

Paulie's Wallnuts · « **Reply #502 on:** December 30, 2011, 06:02:03 PM »

I feel really bad for this lad. He joined just as Robinson & Flanno started coming though so didnt get a game. Really hope the Northampton debacle hasnt hurt his chances of getting a run of games

El_Pistolero · « **Reply #503 on:** December 30, 2011, 06:06:56 PM »

Quote from: theparrot on December 30, 2011, 05:38:50 PM

He must have played 10 games in a red shirt if you include the reserves. 10 games is enough to form an opinion on a player in my eyes.

Vast majority of those were at LB.

hassinator · « **Reply #504 on:** December 30, 2011, 11:29:54 PM »

Quote from: Samee Oldd Xmass Trrashh on December 30, 2011, 05:50:12 PM

A loan spell to Bolton once Cahill is gone perhaps?

he's coming here now. ahem.

PIPA23 · « **Reply #505 on:** December 31, 2011, 01:56:42 AM »

Quote from: theparrot on December 30, 2011, 05:21:52 PM

He seems quite a pussy. I can't remember him ever looking really dominant in a challenge and coming away with the ball. Kelly, Flanagan and Robinson all look like they can compete at this level whereas Wilson just seems too soft. Perhaps he'll develop that edge eventually. A buy back clause would be essential if we sold him.

Did he ever played for us at his CB position?

DanA · « **Reply #506 on:** December 31, 2011, 02:29:15 AM »

Personally I hope Carra goes around 1 more year.

1st choice Agger/Skrtel
Back up: Carra/Coates
Developing: Kelly/Wisdom

Think that works fine unless we get a CB that can play DM I don't think we need anyone which is a change in stance by me from couple of months ago went I would have given my left testicle for a reliable top quality CB.

On Axis · « **Reply #507 on:** December 31, 2011, 07:17:00 AM »

Quote from: DanA on December 31, 2011, 02:29:15 AM

Personally I hope Carra goes around 1 more year.

1st choice Agger/Skrtel
Back up: Carra/Coates
Developing: Kelly/Wisdom

Think that works fine unless we get a CB that can play DM I don't think we need anyone which is a change in stance by me from couple of months ago went I would have given my left testicle for a reliable top quality CB.

I'm sure Dann would've appreciated that!

djschembri · « **Reply #508 on:** December 31, 2011, 01:30:40 PM »

Loaned to Blackpool till the rest of the season.

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/wilson-seals-loan-switch

Chirpy Red · « **Reply #509 on:** December 31, 2011, 01:33:57 PM »

Good luck to the lad.

Aido LFC · « **Reply #510 on:** December 31, 2011, 01:34:04 PM »

Good, was hoping he'd go out on loan soon. Blackpool again as well.

Barefoot Doctor · « **Reply #511 on:** December 31, 2011, 01:34:10 PM »

Excellent move for him. Hopefully he can have as much success there as Shelvey did.

And from a Scots point of view, it's great news - with any luck he'll get regular games, meaning he can be one of our CBs when the next international games come up.

Trumps · « **Reply #512 on:** December 31, 2011, 01:34:14 PM »

For all the harsh words said by Blackpool last January, we seem to have a good understanding with them now

Baraka · « **Reply #513 on:** December 31, 2011, 01:34:28 PM »

will hopefully be a good move for the lad. I am sure Blackpool will want to play him after the success of Shelvey.

Aido LFC · « **Reply #514 on:** December 31, 2011, 01:40:57 PM »

Quote from: Antaros on December 31, 2011, 01:37:34 PM

Unlucky Danny. Hope he'll be happy there and he could play some games of PL next season.

Unlucky? He's gone on loan mate.

hugoboss · « **Reply #515 on:** December 31, 2011, 01:49:47 PM »

Quote from: DAVO1 on December 30, 2011, 05:55:36 PM

Lucas Leiva

Which is why you must never form an opinion again with those eyes.

This is why I love RAWK

hugoboss · « **Reply #516 on:** December 31, 2011, 01:52:16 PM »

Quote from: Antaros on December 31, 2011, 01:46:03 PM

Unlucky because he left Rangers, his club, in order to play at a big club...but he didn't play.

He wouldn't have expected to start playing immediately, I'm sure he has learned alot just training here

1021 · « **Reply #517 on:** December 31, 2011, 01:53:01 PM »

Did Shelvey the world of good. Hopefully it'll have similar effects for Danny.
I think he is a good prospect and think he can have a role to play in the future.

Hopefully this also indicates a continued relationship with Blackpool, they play good football, and are on a budget so could do with boosting their squad with youngsters and a run in a Championship side can reallly help players prepare for when Kenny calls upon them.

jackbird_lfc · « **Reply #518 on:** December 31, 2011, 01:54:10 PM »

Ince and Bruna both signed for Blackpool, and we've loaned them Shelvey and now Wilson.

A good side to have a close relationship with, in my opinion. Good luck Danny.

istvan kosma · « **Reply #519 on:** December 31, 2011, 01:57:34 PM »

Quote from: theparrot on December 30, 2011, 05:21:52 PM

He seems quite a pussy. I can't remember him ever looking really dominant in a challenge and coming away with the ball. Kelly, Flanagan and Robinson all look like they can compete at this level whereas Wilson just seems too soft. Perhaps he'll develop that edge eventually. A buy back clause would be essential if we sold him.

He aint a pussy! he is though a very quiet lad perhaps a bit shy, to be expected really for a young lad... personally think he will be class in time.