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« Reply #160 on: May 13, 2010, 08:11:05 PM »
Sent mine off yesterday recorded delivery got this message:

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« Reply #161 on: May 13, 2010, 08:55:26 PM »
you might  wanna  take your address down there girl

you might get bombarded with junk mail  ;D

well done to all that have took the plunge ..... the fight for your club continues

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Re: Join the Union
« Reply #162 on: May 13, 2010, 11:29:18 PM »
Inspired by the "I'm sick of supporting Liverpool" blog elsewhere.

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Help make a difference - 5,000 members is merely a dot in the ocean of Liverpool fans. Show you care, join SOS now.
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« Reply #163 on: May 13, 2010, 11:53:16 PM »
Just joined up :)

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Re: Join the Union
« Reply #164 on: May 14, 2010, 09:34:59 AM »
seems to be a good stream of people joining up, hope to see it continue

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Re: Join the Union
« Reply #165 on: May 14, 2010, 10:20:31 AM »




couldn't see this in any other threads so i'll put it in here (feel free to move)

 


a great piece again by jim boardman

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Get on with the takeover before we take over

Published at 11:31 pm on May 13th, 2010 by Jim Boardman


It’s depressing enough being a Liverpool fan just by looking at the league table or that big taxi-meter style counter totting up the ridiculous daily interest payments the club has to make. Then you find yourself trying to reason with people who have far more interest in seeing the manager replaced than finding ways of making the owners sell up more quickly. People who are so set on seeing that manager gone that they just won’t stop for a few minutes and consider that maybe, just maybe, it’s not all as simple as blaming one person for all the ills this club has to endure.

Then you realise that many of those people you’ve been trying to reason with haven’t got the courage to step away from the little group they’re in and actually think about things all by themselves, to make their own minds up, to question the joint opinion of their little group on all things LFC and to maybe even risk finding themselves drummed out of that little group. So, briefly, you wonder why you even bothered trying; they’ll not change their minds until one of their leaders or advisers tells them to.

That’s when you realise that you’re not talking to them, not really. They won’t change their minds in a hurry, but a lot of people listen in without getting involved. And they are the people you’re talking to really, people who will listen to all that is said and make their own minds up. People who don’t just follow their leader. People with the sense to see that people at the club are using fans for their own ends.

Elsewhere someone else is trying to reason with people who won’t admit to Rafa making any mistakes at all – but if they did admit those mistakes they’d soon be able to turn the conversations back to the people who have wilfully messed things up for this club, deliberately acted in a way that put this club to so much harm. Rafa makes mistakes. Others made no mistake – they knew full well what they were doing.

Since Rafa Benitez signed his new contract, as negotiated by Christian Purslow back in March 2009, Liverpool have not spent much at all in the transfer market. In fact they’ve spent less than they got back in, with the profit since then currently standing at £6.3m. And that’s including the purchase of Jonjo Shelvey, who is of course yet to play for Liverpool.

An £8m profit on player trading in terms of players available for the season just gone and the priority is to get rid of the manager? Yes, Aquilani was a gamble and it didn’t pay off. But is that enough to make it right to send this message to the owners, this message that they’ve spent more than enough, thanks very much? Is it enough to tell them that, in fact, we’re so happy with their work on our finances that we’ll gladly let them free up money to pay a bit of that interest by selling more players this summer without reinvesting the proceeds into the squad?

Some people have started to turn on Rafa perhaps because they’ve started to think it’s the only change that could actually happen if they shout loudly enough. The reasoning seems to go that although it won’t fix the problems with the owners, and the new manager would probably have to sell some star names to get the funds to build a new squad, maybe it might work.

It might not.

And it will buy yet more time for owners who should have put up or shot off a long time ago. It buys more time for an MD who negotiated a contract that it is claimed would cost Liverpool £16m, to be paid within 24 hours, to terminate. If that’s true he should resign for that one major gaffe alone, if it’s false then maybe we need to talk about whether it’s right for Liverpool’s MD to be talking to the media the way he does. It also buys time for a chairman who promised a sale within a matter of months – I can hear it now: “The appointment of a new manager has caused us some delays in attracting a buyer; they are very keen on buying the club but wanted to see how well the new manager settled in first. It’ll be a done deal in a couple of months.”

There are still claims being made that the manager got his new contract so it all looked good to potential investors. Obviously that pretty much cancels out the idea that Rafa would have a contract that has to be paid in full the day after he is sacked, because that just does not look good to potential investors. But that expensive pay-off is being touted as the only reason he’s not yet been sacked. And then we’re told there aren’t any problems at the club, that Rafa is well and truly loved by his board and we shouldn’t even dream of suggesting otherwise – not with those potential investors ready to make a billion-dollar decision on the strength of an article on a website somewhere or other.

Potential investors need to know something very important. This club is a long way from being harmonious. And maybe, just maybe, that is the best way this club will find a buyer.

What’s the point in inviting people to buy a perfect, sparkling, well-tuned club? They’re only going to be disappointed when they get here. And the fact they were brought here under false pretences means they’ll be gone quicker than the money from the Standard Chartered deal.

So tell the truth. Tell the buyers they’ve got work on their hands. They’ll need to appoint a new chairman (Broughton made it clear he’ll be gone after any sale), a new chief executive (we still haven’t got one) and they’ll need to get rid of the MD (we won’t need one with a CEO in place, and the MD is not a suitable CEO for this club). They’ll need to talk to the manager to see if they can give him what he asks for – and if they can’t then they need to make sure he knows that – no point making promises that won’t be kept.

And they’ll need to be honest with the supporters from day one. Those protests, the ones the MD pleaded should be kept to a minimum to avoid upsetting potential buyers; they’re not done because people see making anti-owner banners as a bit of a hobby. They’re not shouting to keep warm, they’re shouting about something that made them extremely angry. If those new owners can’t do what’s needed to stop those supporters being angry then they might as well go and buy some supermarkets or something.

If you think you can make money out of this club today, sell it today. If you think you can get a finder’s fee or a big chunk of commission then get it and go. Take your money and run.

If you think we’re annoyed now, just wait and see what happens when this renewed anger bubbling under the surface finally erupts. There’s more harmony amongst fans than you think. We’ve been stuck in this limbo far too long. Sooner or later we’ll snap out of this depression and stand up to you once more. Sooner or later we’ll stop arguing with each other and we’ll turn to you and your banks. Sooner or later we’ll make it impossible for you to pretend everything’s okay. The day that happens you’ll not be able to smooth-talk your way out of it. You’ll not be able to hide; you’ll not be able to run. You’ll wish you weren’t here. And you’ll not see it coming.

Sooner or later we’re taking our club back

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Re: Join the Union
« Reply #166 on: May 14, 2010, 04:52:01 PM »
ITS FRIDAY...!!!!!

Don't have that final bevvie and dirty donner tonight, wake up tomorrow feeling refreshed and spend the tenner saved on something else...

Join the Union.
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Re: Join the Union
« Reply #167 on: May 14, 2010, 04:57:30 PM »
Just joined from the states :)
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Re: Join the Union
« Reply #168 on: May 14, 2010, 04:59:19 PM »
Just joined from the states :)

well in mate!!!!! Tell your friends now!!!!!!

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« Reply #169 on: May 14, 2010, 05:00:45 PM »
Nice one Tentacles, was it the thought of not having a Donner kebab tonight that swung it..!  ;D

Was over in New York last month for a holiday with the Mrs.. never eaten so much in my life lol

Quality post above by Boardman by the way...

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Re: Join the Union
« Reply #170 on: May 14, 2010, 05:10:27 PM »
Nice one Tentacles, was it the thought of not having a Donner kebab tonight that swung it..!  ;D

Was over in New York last month for a holiday with the Mrs.. never eaten so much in my life lol

Quality post above by Boardman by the way...

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Re: Join the Union
« Reply #171 on: May 14, 2010, 05:18:14 PM »
Brilliant thread.  In the week it's been running, there have been over 2,000 new members by my reckoning!

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Re: Join the Union
« Reply #172 on: May 14, 2010, 05:23:58 PM »
Keep this going. There is no football this weekend bar the fa cup so save your tenner you throw on a football bet and join up. Do it NOW, not tomorrow. Email, facebook, text all your Liverpool mates and tell them to do the same. Do your part!!!
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Re: Join the Union
« Reply #173 on: May 14, 2010, 05:29:54 PM »
Brilliant thread.  In the week it's been running, there have been over 2,000 new members by my reckoning!

Jaysus, i wonder how commission Garstonite will make out of that???? ;)

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« Reply #174 on: May 14, 2010, 05:59:30 PM »
Jaysus, i wonder how commission Garstonite will make out of that???? ;)

I'd say that poor Sam girl who sends out the membership packs is fucking cursing him though!  :)

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Re: Join the Union
« Reply #175 on: May 14, 2010, 06:06:03 PM »
Done

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Re: Join the Union
« Reply #176 on: May 14, 2010, 06:43:03 PM »
ITS FRIDAY...!!!!!

Don't have that final bevvie and dirty donner tonight, wake up tomorrow feeling refreshed and spend the tenner saved on something else...

Join the Union.


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Re: Join the Union
« Reply #177 on: May 14, 2010, 08:39:13 PM »
Is the 7000 members an accurate figure?

Piece in the times today from Jay on the premier league meeting. Should give the union a bit more column space
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« Reply #178 on: May 14, 2010, 09:56:16 PM »
Have been a member since august 2008, wonder how many peoples who have joined the union since it started in january 08, is it 7000?
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Re: Join the Union
« Reply #179 on: May 14, 2010, 09:59:07 PM »
There hasn't been 2000 join in the last week. Been more than usual which is good to see and we are over 5000 in members. Might as well try to get 2000 more though.

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« Reply #180 on: May 14, 2010, 10:10:29 PM »
Get joining kids . I can honestly say I would rather give up my season ticket than my union membership.

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« Reply #181 on: May 14, 2010, 10:25:56 PM »
I joined a few weeks ago, just waiting for my welcome pack *hint hint* ;)

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« Reply #182 on: May 14, 2010, 10:57:15 PM »
I joined a few weeks ago, just waiting for my welcome pack *hint hint* ;)

Get sent out in monthly batches. So will be with you asap.

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Re: Join the Union
« Reply #183 on: May 14, 2010, 11:21:34 PM »
[Geldof]Just join the fucking Union.[/Geldof]

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« Reply #184 on: May 15, 2010, 08:44:30 AM »
Bump.  It's Saturday morning, maybe a lazy day at home for some of you lucky enough not to be working today, wondering what to do, maybe pop out to buy a coffee, a breakfast and a rag.  Why not skip it, put your kettle on, get your red news online this morning and sign up to the union instead.

Help make a real difference.
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« Reply #185 on: May 15, 2010, 08:58:35 AM »
After quite a while, I've just joined. I have reservations. But They are doing good things for the wider community of the LFC fanbase and hopefully joining is a positive thing.
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« Reply #186 on: May 15, 2010, 09:36:07 AM »
After quite a while, I've just joined. I have reservations. But They are doing good things for the wider community of the LFC fanbase and hopefully joining is a positive thing.
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« Reply #187 on: May 15, 2010, 09:41:46 AM »
Joined. But for me it was £15, is it because I'm a prick? :)
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« Reply #188 on: May 15, 2010, 10:38:08 AM »
After quite a while, I've just joined. I have reservations. But They are doing good things for the wider community of the LFC fanbase and hopefully joining is a positive thing.
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well done andy

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Nice one Andy, I hope more and more people join after seeing some of the great work the union are trying to do.

I also responded to that Daily Post article - sick of people hijacking positive news articles with their manager out crap.  I know I shouldn't bite, just can't help it ;)
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« Reply #189 on: May 15, 2010, 10:41:38 AM »
Get sent out in monthly batches. So will be with you asap.

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« Reply #190 on: May 15, 2010, 10:52:10 AM »
It really is good to see people signing up for the union, we can do so much more if we do it together.
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« Reply #191 on: May 15, 2010, 11:13:22 AM »
Joined. But for me it was £15, is it because I'm a prick? :)
Overseas?  That's what I had to pay, well worth it.
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« Reply #192 on: May 15, 2010, 11:36:13 AM »
Overseas?  That's what I had to pay, well worth it.

Yeah, same here. Happy to pay whatever is asked :D But just out of curiosity, why is the fee more for overseas fans?
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« Reply #193 on: May 15, 2010, 11:43:43 AM »
Yeah, same here. Happy to pay whatever is asked :D But just out of curiosity, why is the fee more for overseas fans?

Higher postage costs?
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« Reply #194 on: May 15, 2010, 11:51:27 AM »
Higher postage costs?
I assume this is why.
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« Reply #195 on: May 15, 2010, 01:35:44 PM »
I am getting seriously pissed off with my mates.The Apathy is unreal.They continually mock what the union stands for and wont be happy until Rafa is gone.Im not talking about 20 odd year olds here either,these lads are in their fourties and have been going the games home and away all their lives.They just dont see past the Rafa factor no matter what you put in front of them.I am warning them that we are on the verge of watching our club drop off the end of the football world but it always comes back to Rafa.In a lot of ways i sort of want Rafa to go just to show them that nothing would change with a manager(Not Maureen) replacing him with no budget.Im afraid we will probably see these people only join the union when it is too late.I think part of the problem is that they havnt got the fight.They have watched us win the lot over the years and now the game in general has just given in to the Sky machine.They are sitting back and accepting the inevitable.WELL IM NOT FUCKING GOING TO!JOIN NOW!!WE need all match going fans to be part of this or we are going under!!Lazy Bastards!!
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Re: Join the Union
« Reply #196 on: May 15, 2010, 01:53:22 PM »
@oscar - yep that is the group of fans who are the hardest to crack - those who think they know it all - have been there seen it and the best approach is just to ignore it keep going every week and it doesn't matter one jot

the fact none of them have ever, thats ever, supported this club when the owners have been taking money out rather than putting it in - its never happened before - the traditional bury yer head in the sand and just support the lads on the pitch approach is cowardice pure and simple - more than that its supporting the owners rather than the club - for all the I've been a fan for 40 years measns fuck all when the situation is one they've never been in before

the idea the club will still be around and the ownership isn't there concern - well what if the owners decided to move the franchise to Dublin and they can't go on a saturday any more? what if they price the traditional fan out of a season ticket in favour of the happy to pay middle classes who are queueing up to attend - are the owners something the complacent nobs have to worry about then

it stinks of I'm alright jack, I'll go the game whetever happens - it needs to be spelled out - if they aren't against the owners they are for them - there is no middle ground

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Re: Join the Union
« Reply #197 on: May 15, 2010, 02:06:53 PM »
"If they are not against the owners they are for them - there is no middle ground"   perfectly put!
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Re: Join the Union
« Reply #198 on: May 15, 2010, 02:12:35 PM »
It really is good to see people signing up for the union, we can do so much more if we do it together.
I feel as if we should be doing more Vic. I think like a lot of people I feel fucking helpless and angry. So, so angry.
I wonder what the next campaign will be.

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Re: Join the Union
« Reply #199 on: May 15, 2010, 02:25:07 PM »
I assume this is why.

Yes. Higher postage costs is the reason.