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Re: Pacheco
« Reply #120 on: April 18, 2010, 02:07:26 PM »
Heard he's on Celtic's radar.I wish Dani is a loyal lad. :)

Only on a loan basis however. I would love him to get the experience out here and not to mention that he'll more than likely play regularly in the season that we loan him out than he would do while at Liverpool.
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Re: Pacheco
« Reply #121 on: April 18, 2010, 02:28:34 PM »
somewhere where they play decent football where there wouldnt be too much pressure on him would be ideal (e.g. west brom)
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« Reply #122 on: April 18, 2010, 02:34:00 PM »
Any where but,let him stay in England it self.
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« Reply #123 on: April 18, 2010, 03:12:02 PM »
Where's the sense in letting Celtic get him on loan? in a league full of bruisers
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« Reply #124 on: April 18, 2010, 03:16:50 PM »
I dont personally suggest him loaning to Celtic.The lad would find it difficult to come back and play in England.
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Re: Pacheco
« Reply #125 on: April 18, 2010, 03:22:51 PM »
I think next season was supposed to be his 'Insua' season, but that's been scuppered for a few reasons.

A) Spain keep taking him away every time there's a window of oppurtunity for him.
B) Minor injuries ruling him out of games he could feature in, especially in the Europa League
C) Haven't often had the oppurtunity to bring him on at 3-0 up, or when the game's safe

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Re: Pacheco
« Reply #126 on: April 18, 2010, 07:34:54 PM »
I think next season was supposed to be his 'Insua' season, but that's been scuppered for a few reasons.

A) Spain keep taking him away every time there's a window of oppurtunity for him.
B) Minor injuries ruling him out of games he could feature in, especially in the Europa League
C) Haven't often had the oppurtunity to bring him on at 3-0 up, or when the game's safe

You meant this season, right?  :)

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« Reply #127 on: April 18, 2010, 08:42:19 PM »

You meant this season, right?  :)

Nope. Last season, Insua played 8 or so games, and is now seemingly our first choice left-back. I think this season, Pacheco was supposed to play his 8 or so games, before slotting into the team more regularly next season, but it hasn't happened

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Re: Pacheco
« Reply #128 on: April 18, 2010, 08:45:18 PM »
So what, from being one of the most rated youngsters we've got, he might now go the same way as any other youngster we've had, be loaned out and disappear forever more?

Really hope this Celtic stuff is bollocks. How about giving him much needed game experience by, you know, and this is quite radical, playing him in OUR team?
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Re: Pacheco
« Reply #129 on: April 18, 2010, 08:47:28 PM »
Well now with Torres out six weeks he might get some playing time.
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Re: Pacheco
« Reply #130 on: April 18, 2010, 09:15:22 PM »
So what, from being one of the most rated youngsters we've got, he might now go the same way as any other youngster we've had, be loaned out and disappear forever more?

Really hope this Celtic stuff is bollocks. How about giving him much needed game experience by, you know, and this is quite radical, playing him in OUR team?
I keep finding myself agreeing with everything you say.


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Re: Pacheco
« Reply #131 on: April 18, 2010, 09:38:44 PM »
It looks like he's been doing well with the Spain u-19s. They drew the first match against Norway and beat Turkey in their qualifying group.

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Four-time winners Spain needed an equaliser from substitute Rubén Rochina to rescue a draw against Norway on the first day of action in UEFA European Under-19 Championship elite round Group 4.

Both teams had chances in an entertaining first half with Liverpool FC forward Daniel Pacheco a lively presence for Spain and Thomas Lehne Olsen regularly threatening for Norway. It was the latter who struck first, finishing off a fine dribble with a precise shot a minute before half-time.

Pacheco helped Spain get back into the match, striking a post seconds before Rochina – who had only come only three minutes earlier – levelled in the 62nd minute. Norway can stay in the hunt with a win against Azerbaijan on Friday, when Spain cannot afford to lose to mini-tournament hosts Turkey.

http://www.uefa.com/under19/matches/season=2010/round=15352/match=2001511/report/index.html

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Spain are on course to reach the UEFA European Under-19 Championship finals again as they overcame a spirited effort from Group 4 hosts Turkey in an eventual game in Eskisehir.

Spain coach Luis Milla made four changes from Wednesday's opening draw with Norway for their meeting with a side who won their first game, and was rewarded within nine minutes, Daniel Pacheco crossing from the left for Keko to control and shoot in. The lead proved short-lived, Özgür Çek squaring for captain Necip Uysal to apply a simple finish and level the scores in the 14th minute, but Spain regained the lead a minute before half-time, Thiago Alcántara heading in another fine Pacheco cross from the left wing.

Again Turkey's response was swift, Muhammet Demir coming off the bench at half-time – the influential Emre Çolak having to be replaced due to injury – to level within three minutes, converting Ali Kuçik's assist. Spain struck the decisive blow in the 54th minute, however, Oriol Romeu heading in what proved to be the winner, although Rochina could have made the final margin more comfortable only to be denied by Özkan Karabulut in the closing stages. Four-time winners Spain will therefore qualify for the finals again should they defeat Azerbaijan on Monday, but if they drop points Turkey will pip them by beating Norway.

Luis Milla, the Spain coach, said: "During the first half an hour Turkey were better than us, putting us under a lot of pressure. However, our team talk at half-time was very influential. I told them to pass the ball more. We controlled the game with our attacks and balls lofted in behind the Turkish defence."

http://www.uefa.com/under19/matches/season=2010/round=15352/match=2001526/report/index.html


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Re: Pacheco
« Reply #132 on: April 18, 2010, 09:43:19 PM »
Hopefully hes given a chance in the future, i won't hold my breath insua has been the only one given a real go in the first team by rafa, and if aurelio was fit i doubt that would have been the case, Most of our youngsters are just brought in to make a profit when we sell them on, so im not going to get carried away regarding pacheco chances.
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Re: Pacheco
« Reply #133 on: April 18, 2010, 10:04:44 PM »
I think a loan to celtic would be great for him. He's gonna be playing against bruisers which will force him to strengthen up, probably a touch stronger than he would need to be in the prem.

We'll also see whether he can put his skill and pace to good use against a higher level of opposition willing to bend the rules and kick the flashy players till they're quiet.

These are things we don't know about him yet, and things he will need to learn if he is to slot into our side smoothly.

I just hope this is the thinking rather than profit hunting. If pacheco doesn't make it i'll lose all faith in our youth system.

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Re: Pacheco
« Reply #134 on: April 18, 2010, 10:32:19 PM »
It looks like he's been doing well with the Spain u-19s. They drew the first match against Norway and beat Turkey in their qualifying group.

http://www.uefa.com/under19/matches/season=2010/round=15352/match=2001511/report/index.html

http://www.uefa.com/under19/matches/season=2010/round=15352/match=2001526/report/index.html



Keko is fucking class. Playing against both him and Pacheco would be frightening

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« Reply #135 on: April 18, 2010, 11:01:51 PM »
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« Reply #136 on: April 18, 2010, 11:06:04 PM »
Keko is fucking class. Playing against both him and Pacheco would be frightening
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Re: Pacheco
« Reply #137 on: April 18, 2010, 11:08:30 PM »
Dani Pacheco. NOW is your time lad. Make the difference.
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« Reply #138 on: April 18, 2010, 11:10:12 PM »
Well we do like our Atletico players

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Re: Pacheco
« Reply #139 on: April 18, 2010, 11:15:17 PM »
You know something i dont ? Cue the Keko to liverpool rumours in the newspapers
Sadly no, but he's one of 2 Atletico players I  would love to see here.
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Re: Pacheco
« Reply #140 on: April 18, 2010, 11:15:38 PM »
He could become a star v Atlético. Footballers over the years have 'their night'

This could just be his
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Re: Pacheco
« Reply #141 on: April 19, 2010, 09:51:32 AM »
I hope he plays tonight ! !

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Re: Pacheco
« Reply #142 on: April 19, 2010, 09:54:44 AM »
Is Pacheco back with the squad then ?

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« Reply #143 on: April 19, 2010, 09:56:09 AM »
Is Pacheco back with the squad then ?

Where's he been ???
International ??

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« Reply #144 on: April 19, 2010, 09:58:20 AM »
He is away with the Spanish U-19's as far as i can tell.

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« Reply #145 on: April 19, 2010, 10:01:45 AM »
I hope he plays tonight ! !
Is Pacheco back with the squad then ?
Playing for Spain against Azerbaijan today. No?
Certainly played for Spain against Turkey on Friday and I doubt he could have made it back even if he wanted to.
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« Reply #146 on: April 19, 2010, 10:13:08 AM »
Playing for Spain against Azerbaijan today. No?
Certainly played for Spain against Turkey on Friday and I doubt he could have made it back even if he wanted to.

Thanks for clearing that up mate
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« Reply #147 on: April 19, 2010, 10:15:37 AM »
fuck loaning him out. he is just the player we could do with on the bench, who can change a game .
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« Reply #148 on: April 19, 2010, 06:46:57 PM »
Spain are through to the u-19 euro championships in the summer. They beat Azerbaijan 4-0 and Pacheco apparently got another assist for the 2nd goal.

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Spain swept into the UEFA European Under-19 Championship final tournament for the fifth year in a row with a 4-0 defeat of Azerbaijan in Eskisehir.

Luis Milla's side needed to win to make sure of edging out mini-tournament hosts Turkey and Norway and claiming first place in Group 4, and duly began brightly with Rubén Rochina twice and Thiago Alcantara going close in the early exchanges. The opening goal finally arrived in the 29th minute, Rochina holding off two defenders to score, and two minutes later it was 2-0 as the FC Barcelona forward turned in a fine left-wing cross from Daniel Pacheco.

The points were effectively secured in the 36th minute, Thiago converting from the penalty spot after Tural Isgandarov had been penalised, although Spain kept pressing forward in the second period. The fourth goal duly arrived with 20 minutes left, Rodrigo Moreno scoring at the second attempt after Salahat Aghayev had saved his header from Sergio Gontan's cross, while Azerbaijan – who finish in fourth place – ended with ten men after substitute Elgiz Karamli collected a second yellow card in the 86th minute.

"We drew our first match, because all the teams were in good physical condition then," said Milla, who also led Spain into last summer's finals in Ukraine. "After that, we've played [two] matches when the teams were tired, which is why we beat Azerbaijan by this score. Everything was even until first goal, and it was important for us to get it as quickly as possible."

http://www.uefa.com/under19/matches/season=2010/round=15352/match=2001540/report/index.html

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Re: Pacheco
« Reply #149 on: April 19, 2010, 06:48:44 PM »
Spain are through to the u-19 euro championships in the summer. They beat Azerbaijan 4-0 and Pacheco apparently got another assist for the 2nd goal.

http://www.uefa.com/under19/matches/season=2010/round=15352/match=2001540/report/index.html

I think he's been involved in 4 out of 8 goals then. That's pretty good..

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Re: Pacheco
« Reply #150 on: April 19, 2010, 06:54:47 PM »
Dani Pacheco. NOW is your time lad. Make the difference.

Throw Stevie up front with Pacecho. We've got plenty of midfielders to cope and it might be the opportunity for Aquilani to step up to the plate.

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Re: Pacheco
« Reply #151 on: April 19, 2010, 07:07:13 PM »
Hopefully hes given a chance in the future, i won't hold my breath insua has been the only one given a real go in the first team by rafa

Darren Potter?  Steve Warnock? Neil Mellor?  John Welsh got more than a few games as well.  You may say they were a few years ago but standards have been raised since, and Kelly has been eased in as his performances have deserved.  If Darby and Spearing had made more of an impression with their chances they might have been given more games as well.

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« Reply #152 on: April 19, 2010, 07:10:05 PM »
Thanks for clearing that up mate
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« Reply #153 on: April 19, 2010, 11:38:05 PM »
Thanks for clearing that up mate
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Re: Pacheco
« Reply #154 on: April 20, 2010, 10:37:34 AM »
Is Dani currently in Spain and could he play for us Thursday night with less travel than the rest of the lads?

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« Reply #155 on: April 20, 2010, 10:45:52 AM »
Is Dani currently in Spain and could he play for us Thursday night with less travel than the rest of the lads?

No. He is in Istanbul.
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« Reply #156 on: April 20, 2010, 11:08:10 AM »
Is Dani currently in Spain and could he play for us Thursday night with less travel than the rest of the lads?
looks like he was in turkey, don't know if he can fly to spain from there. haven't seen spain on te ash maps

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Re: Pacheco
« Reply #157 on: April 20, 2010, 11:22:10 AM »
I dont understand why we would loan Pacheco out to anyone. He seems to be coming along very nicely. The lad looks a class act and i'de love to see him on the bench and used more often.
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Re: Pacheco
« Reply #158 on: April 21, 2010, 12:48:01 AM »
pacheco and ngog look mint together in reserves, i think the will both be great players in the future. main problem is that they are small built and the prem demands more. look at arsenal for example, i think all their( younger) players get injured at one point in the season. a little bit of work in the gym and the odd 1st team game and he will be set to go! looks class!
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Re: Pacheco
« Reply #159 on: April 21, 2010, 01:27:22 AM »
i reckon ngog would have benefited from a celtic loan deal.would love to see him toughen up and get stuck in.
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