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Liverpool Hackney Cab Street Knowledge
« on: March 22, 2010, 12:30:58 PM »
Thinking about doing this, but can't seem to find much info on what you've got to learn and how you'd go about it.

Anybody who's done it got any tips? Books, courses etc...


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Re: Liverpool Hackney Cab Street Knowledge
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2010, 01:43:49 PM »
Amazingly, I'd already found those pages smartarse. Now can you point out the bit where it tells you how the best way to go about learning the knowledge, recommended methods etc, and exactly what you have to learn?

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Re: Liverpool Hackney Cab Street Knowledge
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2010, 02:05:42 PM »
You can buy the answers for a couple of quid i think Gawiths do them if not they will point you in the right direction
http://www.gawiths.co.uk/


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Re: Liverpool Hackney Cab Street Knowledge
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2010, 03:08:53 PM »
Now can you point out the bit where it tells you...exactly what you have to learn?

Gladly. From the second link:

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1)You will be expected to write down every street that connects the starting point to the destination. In most cases if you can’t remember a road name they will accept a landmark like a pub or a church etc. Often you will only need to memorise main roads.
2)A list of locations; estates, pubs, train stations etc. You will be expected to know the names of the roads these are on.
3)Taxi Bye-laws. Example question: Can hackney carriage and private hire vehicles form ranks?
4)Highway code.
5)Disability awareness.

I'd say that's a fairly comprehensive list of what you'd need to learn.

Also, it goes and gives you an example syllabus for the sorts of things you might need to know

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Here is an example of Halton councils syllabus if you wish to see example questions: http://www2.halton.gov.uk/pdfs/business/knowledgetestsyllabus

Now can you point out the bit where it tells you how the best way to go about learning the knowledge, recommended methods etc

Gladly

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To pass the knowledge you will need an up to date ‘fold out’ A-Z Map, they are huge and very detailed. You may also want to buy a normal book type A-Z map for when you pass. You can get cheap maps from www.amazon.co.uk

I put the map on a wall and use highlighter pens to highlight the best routes. I found the best routes by using Google maps, or Microsoft MapPoint 2006. Then it was just a case of spending some time each day going through the routes and testing my memory of them – One Important point to mention is that the route you choose does not have to exactly match the councils test answers but it has to be pretty close to it, so you won’t fail for choosing a slightly different way. Get a copy of the highway code. You could dig out your old copy but I recommend you buy a new one as it is updated all the time. Give it a good read, maybe keep a copy in the toilet, it makes great bathroom literature :)

Get on the councils website or call them to obtain a copy of Taxi Bye-laws and information on how best to be of service to disabled customers. They normally give you all this info on your first interview anyway.

That about covers it for now, remember to practice as much as you can. Test your memory every day and look at the map every day. Passing the knowledge is not quite as daunting as it sounds, some councils are not super strict with the test and they may give you hints if you need help. Most people will pass on the second sitting of the test. Best of luck!

And the advice at the top is

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The Street Knowledge Test Outside of London. Not all LAs will require you to take this exam so you will need to call your council and check if you need to do it (most councils have some form of practical test now), I also recommend you ask what the waiting list is like to sit the taxi test. It can be a few weeks in places; so your best booking it soon. There is more to taking the knowledge test than just memorising routes from A to B…

If you're doing it in Liverpool, then you best contact Liverpool council for more information. I would find the number for you, but I really can't be arsed. The website is www.liverpool.gov.uk, however. Knock yourself out.

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Re: Liverpool Hackney Cab Street Knowledge
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2010, 04:14:09 PM »
You have too much time on your hands Blurred. LOL

 Very good though.

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Re: Liverpool Hackney Cab Street Knowledge
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2010, 04:41:17 PM »
I'd say that's a fairly comprehensive list of what you'd need to learn.

Would you? I'd call it an extremely rough overview personally. I was looking for a bit more than 'buy a map', 'memorize the names of streets' etc...

If you 'google searched' the 'London knowledge', you can quickly find out that you need to have a detailed knowledge of London within a six mile radius of Charing Cross and that the main bulk of 'the knowledge' is based on 320 routes (or 'runs') that are set out in the Public Carriage Office "Guide to Learning the Knowledge of London". You'll also find courses and other books that'll give you tips on the best way to learn those routes, which is specifically the kind of  thing I'm looking for.

I was wondering if there are equivalents for Liverpool, which is why I was asking for a few tips from someone who's actually done it, rather than a lesson on how to obtain blindingly obvious information from a basic google search. But thanks very much for your time anyway.









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Re: Liverpool Hackney Cab Street Knowledge
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2010, 04:45:22 PM »
You can buy the answers for a couple of quid i think Gawiths do them if not they will point you in the right direction
http://www.gawiths.co.uk/

Cheers for that mate, I'll look into it.

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Re: Liverpool Hackney Cab Street Knowledge
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2010, 04:48:58 PM »
Well perhaps if you had asked the question in the manner that you did the second time around then you would have got an answer that more accurately fit what you were expecting.

You asked a pretty general question and in fairness you got a pretty detailed answer.  If you wanted precise details then you should have made that clear.

It'd be like your first fare asking to go to Mossley Hill and then complaining when you dropped him by the station when he really wanted you to take him to Sudley House.
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Re: Liverpool Hackney Cab Street Knowledge
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2010, 04:58:24 PM »
Would you? I'd call it an extremely rough overview personally. I was looking for a bit more than 'buy a map', 'memorize the names of streets' etc...

If you 'google searched' the 'London knowledge', you can quickly find out that you need to have a detailed knowledge of London within a six mile radius of Charing Cross and that the main bulk of 'the knowledge' is based on 320 routes (or 'runs') that are set out in the Public Carriage Office "Guide to Learning the Knowledge of London". You'll also find courses and other books that'll give you tips on the best way to learn those routes, which is specifically the kind of  thing I'm looking for.

I was wondering if there are equivalents for Liverpool, which is why I was asking for a few tips from someone who's actually done it, rather than a lesson on how to obtain blindingly obvious information from a basic google search. But thanks very much for your time anyway.










You'll be surprised how easy it is to learn especially if you already know the names of main roads and other landmarks.

It's all about imagining the journey and that way you'll memorise the route.

The city council website has the routes on there so thats the best place to start.

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Re: Liverpool Hackney Cab Street Knowledge
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2010, 05:00:16 PM »
Well perhaps if you had asked the question in the manner that you did the second time around then you would have got an answer that more accurately fit what you were expecting.

You asked a pretty general question and in fairness you got a pretty detailed answer.  If you wanted precise details then you should have made that clear.

It'd be like your first fare asking to go to Mossley Hill and then complaining when you dropped him by the station when he really wanted you to take him to Sudley House.
I'd of been lost at Mossley Hill

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Re: Liverpool Hackney Cab Street Knowledge
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2010, 05:06:13 PM »
Was it really that non specific? Tips from people who've done it, books, courses etc., is what I originally asked for. Then I got a snotty, unnecessary, sarcastic reply that implied that all the info and personal experience I was asking for was a 'google search' away. Not true, and even if it was, was there still really any need?

 

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Re: Liverpool Hackney Cab Street Knowledge
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2010, 05:10:06 PM »
You'll be surprised how easy it is to learn especially if you already know the names of main roads and other landmarks.

It's all about imagining the journey and that way you'll memorise the route.
The city council website has the routes on there so thats the best place to start.

Cheers mate, that's the kind of thing I was looking for.

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Re: Liverpool Hackney Cab Street Knowledge
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2010, 06:42:13 PM »
Was it really that non specific? Tips from people who've done it, books, courses etc., is what I originally asked for. Then I got a snotty, unnecessary, sarcastic reply that implied that all the info and personal experience I was asking for was a 'google search' away. Not true, and even if it was, was there still really any need?

Welcome to RAWK mate, unnecessary sarcastic replies are the stock in trade here.  You'll get some good answers as well mind.  And fairplay I think Blurred second attempt was a good answer to the question posed.
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Re: Liverpool Hackney Cab Street Knowledge
« Reply #14 on: April 1, 2010, 07:02:34 PM »
What you need to do mate is go in to Municiple buildings on Dale street. Tell them that you are looking to take the knowledge test.

You will be given the list of routes that you need to know.

there are 7 sections of routes, each section has 8 routes that you need to know the shortest route between the given locations. in the actual test you will be asked any 2 of the 8 routes in each section and you have to know each road you will travel along.
cant remember the exact order now but something like

a) city centre to surrounding areas (new brighton, wirral, huyton, kirkby, bootle
b) city centre to south liverpool
c) north lpool - south lpool
d) east lpool - centre
e) well you get the point.....

then there is an 8th section with 60 landmarks/pubs/hotels and you need to know the names of the roads these are on - think the pass on this section is 75%

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Re: Liverpool Hackney Cab Street Knowledge
« Reply #15 on: April 2, 2010, 01:22:48 AM »
Was it really that non specific? Tips from people who've done it, books, courses etc., is what I originally asked for. Then I got a snotty, unnecessary, sarcastic reply that implied that all the info and personal experience I was asking for was a 'google search' away. Not true, and even if it was, was there still really any need?

Christ, remind me not to banter with you in the cab.

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Re: Liverpool Hackney Cab Street Knowledge
« Reply #16 on: April 2, 2010, 02:24:40 AM »
Was it really that non specific? Tips from people who've done it, books, courses etc., is what I originally asked for. Then I got a snotty, unnecessary, sarcastic reply that implied that all the info and personal experience I was asking for was a 'google search' away. Not true, and even if it was, was there still really any need?

 

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Re: Liverpool Hackney Cab Street Knowledge
« Reply #17 on: April 2, 2010, 12:47:44 PM »
Been busy tonight then, mate?

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