Author Topic: Man U (2) v Liverpool (1) - 21/03/10 - Commentary & Post Match Handwringing (Read 50413 times)

Andy @ Allerton · « **Reply #120 on:** March 21, 2010, 02:21:08 PM »

Reina saves. Webb gutted.

Webb played 1 minute over. Took it back from a Play on.

Fucking disgrace.

Finn Solomon · « **Reply #121 on:** March 21, 2010, 02:21:09 PM »

47 Gerrard down the left, tries to slide it to Torres but it goes straight to Van Der Sar instead. The Mancs look intent on slowing the game down, all except for Rooney that is. Pass to Rooney bounces off him, but Carra's outstretched leg catches Carrick. Carra then brings down Rooney outside our box, and they have a very dangerous free-kick. Carra gets a yellow and I am bricking it here.

Rooney to take it. Comfortable for Reina in the end, and it's officially half-time

Andy @ Allerton · « **Reply #122 on:** March 21, 2010, 02:21:26 PM »

Webb trying to tell Carragher he's not fucking corrupt.

Jonathan Hall ☆☆☆☆☆ · « **Reply #123 on:** March 21, 2010, 02:22:50 PM »

Cheers for the first half lads. If we score again in first 15 mins we're keeping Andy on as that way we'll win

Finn Solomon · « **Reply #124 on:** March 21, 2010, 02:24:52 PM »

PM from SMD.

Quote from: SMD on March 21, 2010, 02:22:11 PM

Cheers for the commentary, guys. Better than Jon fucking Champion.

Howard Webb is awful.

Love and kisses.

Now he did not explicitly state that the kisses were meant for Amir and Mouth, so I am forced to assume that he did.

Andy, Branno, something that I've noticed is that Rooney seems to be determined to win the game by himself, running here there and everywhere despite the noticeable efforts of the rest of his team to slow the game down. Do you think he'll run out of breath in the second half?

Andy @ Allerton · « **Reply #125 on:** March 21, 2010, 02:26:26 PM »

Finn, I think you've got something there. He's a very good player (If a complete balding ugly c*nt) - but his record against Everton and Liverpool is poor - he hasn't scored a (deserved) goal against either in a long while.

Pheeny · « **Reply #126 on:** March 21, 2010, 02:27:04 PM »

H/T question. Can anyone name a decent Ref in the PL?

Andy @ Allerton · « **Reply #127 on:** March 21, 2010, 02:27:19 PM »

Hoddle hasn't slagged the 'penalty' off. Quelle surprise.

Andy @ Allerton · « **Reply #128 on:** March 21, 2010, 02:28:01 PM »

Quote from: Pheeny on March 21, 2010, 02:27:04 PM

H/T question. Can anyone name a decent Ref in the PL?

Wiley is possibly the only one.

Finn Solomon · « **Reply #129 on:** March 21, 2010, 02:29:50 PM »

Quote from: Pheeny on March 21, 2010, 02:27:04 PM

H/T question. Can anyone name a decent Ref in the PL?

I have a somewhat neutral view of Steve Clattenburg. Phil Dowd's another one that comes to mind, but that's it.

My studio shows the Valencia dive again and it's clear that any contact was well outside the box. Ridiculous decision by Webb, who was miles away and doesn't bother to check with his linesman, who noticeably did not raise his flag. Bald c*nt.

Branno · « **Reply #130 on:** March 21, 2010, 02:29:50 PM »

Well United have to go for it and that will be to our advantage. Sit back and relax as couple of sneeky goals coming our way. Baconface will try and up the tempo and Rafa as per usual will calculate this and conterattack goals will be on the way.

I didnt see too much to see why would loose this. We are obviously in it and Torres hasnt even started on Vidic yet.

Andy @ Allerton · « **Reply #131 on:** March 21, 2010, 02:30:48 PM »

Some more Messages;

TALBERT

The silence from the commentary team when Liverpool players are fouled.........

fucking sickening

Ycuzz

My eyes deceiving me or did Gerrard lose the ball and then decide to give Lucas an earful... ?

Wake up Stevie!

BIGdavalad

Good to see Webb's marked Mascherano and Torres completely out of the game. I reckon one of them's a shoe in to go off, probably both.

hassinator

hello sir any chance you could include the full starting line ups at the top of the thread?

- Will do that for you hassinator

usernamefc

While talking about sky, I liked how at the start of the match Mr. Gray said Lucas was very attacking against Pompy, and that it was the most attacking he's seen him all season.

Sorry, do you mean Lille? Because Aquilani started against Portsmouth

robbie96

Think Sammy Lee will have a world with Webb at HT to be honest .... I'm positive in the second half we'll get 2 or 3 calls to "attempt to even out the disgraceful miscarriage of justice" and then Webb will go back to ignoring us again

damian

Is anyone taking bets on Liverpool having 11 players sent off in the second half for kicking the ball in the direction of their keeper?

- I think you can only have 3 before the game is abandoned

Branno · « **Reply #132 on:** March 21, 2010, 02:32:03 PM »

Gromit says...

Playing at OT you'd expect to have most 50-50s given against you, but webb isn't even giving us the 60-40 decisions.

Despite that I think we've done ok, once the game became scrappy it allowed a few heads to cool.

Andy @ Allerton · « **Reply #133 on:** March 21, 2010, 02:33:21 PM »

Correction:

Hoddle, Redknapp say it's not a penalty..

Owen says it's definately one. He'll have an interesting time at the National Methinks.

Pheeny · « **Reply #134 on:** March 21, 2010, 02:34:21 PM »

Quote from: robbie96 on March 21, 2010, 02:30:42 PM

If this ends in a draw

How is this different from Fernando's first home match with Chelsea - when what's his face gave a peno to Lampard .... how do they get away with this ?!

Finn Solomon · « **Reply #135 on:** March 21, 2010, 02:34:32 PM »

Quote from: WhoseLeftFoot? on March 21, 2010, 02:29:33 PM

Awful from webb, pen for a foul outside the box, non existent tackles getting given as fouls and yellows, the Mancs players can seemingly do as they please and not get booked. The pen and all the crappy decisions from webb seem to have taken the wind out of our sails somewhat - Rafa and the senior players need to gee up the team at half time. Not sure what's wrong with gerrard - is he knackered or not interested? Not the best of halfs from the skipper. Maybe Gerrard should be subbed for Aquilani if his game doesn't pick up.

Gerrard for Aqua? A very risky move for Rafa, but not an impossible one. Gerrard has looked out of sorts, which is particularly galling. I don't think it will happen but I do expect Babel to make an appearance at some point.

Branno · « **Reply #136 on:** March 21, 2010, 02:35:20 PM »

So any subs lads ? Id be quite happy to stay as we are for now !

Andy @ Allerton · « **Reply #137 on:** March 21, 2010, 02:36:43 PM »

More Messages;

OsirisMVZ

Admitting Valencia has dived for the penalty. The horrible judas

Geezer08

Not a penalty in a million years.. even the beeb thinks its only a free kick:

"..The penalty is awarded after Javier Mascherano brings down Antonio Valencia. Mascherano is fortunate to stay on the pitch, yet it looks as though the foul started outside the box and thus should have been a free-kick.."

John C

We need to use the width and get the ball out to Maxi Andy, good display but we can take the game to them a bit more

tinkertailor

When even the Manchester Guardian is admitting that the peno was 'very soft', you know you've just witnessed another total refereeing cock-up.

Still, I wish he hadn't bothered tugging him at all.

PS. I had a laugh hearing the shit "take me home" song after seeing this in the build up.

Andy @ Allerton · « **Reply #138 on:** March 21, 2010, 02:37:54 PM »

Branno, I think we should stay as we are for now. But with this referee. I fear the worst.

there is no way he'll be refereeing in a fair, balanced or even manner. I'd expect him to carry on in the second half as clearly bent as the first half.

Not his fault though. The FA see this and do nothing.

Andy @ Allerton · « **Reply #139 on:** March 21, 2010, 02:38:43 PM »

Webb goes and has a friendly chat to Rooney!

Not that he's biased of course.

Second half kicks off.

me first 15. Then Branno then Finn for the last 15.

Finn Solomon · « **Reply #140 on:** March 21, 2010, 02:38:46 PM »

Quote from: deadlybuzz on March 21, 2010, 02:32:20 PM

Seems the hype of being the best ref of the league has clearly gone to Webb's head. His last few games in March let alone the past few he's refereed with us this season have being extremely poor. Then again, he's practically the last remaining ref that Ferguson hasn't dis-owned yet.

Seems as the lads have developed "Bennett" syndrome and are fearful of doing anything with Webb throwing cards and freekicks about. Has he even consulted his officials throughout this game?

Insightful comment there, and to the best of my knowledge he has not consulted his linesmen throughout the first half. Then again we always knew it was going to be 12 vs 11 going into this.

Here come the Mancs, running out onto the pitch first. Rooney wearing black gloves and an undershirt as though he hailed from the Caribbean.

Torres and the lads come out to that awful 'Glory Glory' ditty. Sounds like the theme music to a carnival of the damned.

Rafa emerges at last with a grin on his face, no changes by either side though. We are now attacking from left to right.

Andy @ Allerton · « **Reply #141 on:** March 21, 2010, 02:39:13 PM »

Maxi on the left. Goes back with Agger.

Liverpool start cautiously.

Andy @ Allerton · « **Reply #142 on:** March 21, 2010, 02:39:37 PM »

Torres booted by Carrick who shows dissent (no booking)

Andy @ Allerton · « **Reply #143 on:** March 21, 2010, 02:40:19 PM »

46 Gerrard puts a poor ball in. Easily cleared.

Rooney breaks. Nani luckily is shite

Finn Solomon · « **Reply #144 on:** March 21, 2010, 02:40:31 PM »

Dangerous there, Nani getting the better of Johnson.

Andy @ Allerton · « **Reply #145 on:** March 21, 2010, 02:41:16 PM »

47 Mancs hoof it forward and Nani shows his shitness again (Hope that doesn't come back to bite me, although I expect more dives and penalties from this 'referee'

Reina upfield. Liverpool throw in on the left.

Andy @ Allerton · « **Reply #146 on:** March 21, 2010, 02:42:01 PM »

48 Mancs try down the right. Nothing doing.

Neville looks ugly.

Ball cleared to midfield. Mancs attack. nani dives. Pathetic. 'Referee' gives it

Andy @ Allerton · « **Reply #147 on:** March 21, 2010, 02:42:52 PM »

48 'Referee' looks desperate to give mancs anything now.

Shit ball in by Nani. Cleared halfway then back again.

Liverpool sitting back. Insua does well. Gets it to safety

Finn Solomon · « **Reply #148 on:** March 21, 2010, 02:43:08 PM »

Baboons notes that the linesman did indeed flag for the Mascherano penalty, not like Webb was paying attention anyway the baldy twat.

(Apologies to Pheeny, Stone Cold Steve Austin and any other fellas who have been offended by my Webb bashing thus far.)

Andy @ Allerton · « **Reply #149 on:** March 21, 2010, 02:43:47 PM »

49 - Kuyt on the right. To Johnson and switched left. Liverpool get it infrield. Lucas out to Lucas. Nice possession for the moment. Gerrard gets it off Kuyt. Poor ball by Gerrard easily cleared.

Finn Solomon · « **Reply #150 on:** March 21, 2010, 02:44:38 PM »

The sun appears to be in our favour, shining on our backs and into the Mancs's eyes. Insua starting something here, comes to nothing though. Both teams still playing at a very low tempo by this fixture's standards.

Andy @ Allerton · « **Reply #151 on:** March 21, 2010, 02:45:07 PM »

50 - Good ball down the left by Liverpool - Poor ball in by Insua. Dive by Evra. Freekick against Gerrard who is annoyed.

If the FA was a real organisation, Webb would have questions that should be answered.

Park has a weak shot. Easily gathered by pepe.

Finn Solomon · « **Reply #152 on:** March 21, 2010, 02:45:21 PM »

Park wrongfoots Agger and Carra and takes a stab at goal, but Reina easily saves.

Andy @ Allerton · « **Reply #153 on:** March 21, 2010, 02:45:27 PM »

51 - Handball by Evra - seen by the ref and ignored.

Andy @ Allerton · « **Reply #154 on:** March 21, 2010, 02:46:26 PM »

51 - Mancs down the left. Infield to Ferdinand. And out to the right. Carrick gives it away. Liverpool down the left get it infield to Kuyt in the centre. Offloads it to Torres who loses out.

Carra with a great tackle on the ugly gimp.

Andy @ Allerton · « **Reply #155 on:** March 21, 2010, 02:46:46 PM »

52 - Rooney right to Valencia. Neville with a shit house cross from a shit house.

Finn Solomon · « **Reply #156 on:** March 21, 2010, 02:46:52 PM »

Branno what do you think of Andy so far, has he hit full steam yet or do you feel he still has some nuclear bombs up his sleeve?

Quote from: deadlybuzz on March 21, 2010, 02:45:01 PM

Baboons notes that the linesman did indeed flag for the Mascherano penalty, not like Webb was paying attention anyway the baldy twat.

So not only have we got Webb to contend with, we have dodgy linesmen too...

Hopefully not, or this would be dead and buried.

Andy @ Allerton · « **Reply #157 on:** March 21, 2010, 02:47:28 PM »

53 Reina with a goal kick. Headed on nicely to Torres. Gets fouled 'Referee' sees nothing 'wrong'.

Andy @ Allerton · « **Reply #158 on:** March 21, 2010, 02:47:59 PM »

54 - Mancs sing the Bonfire song. Devon voices out in full force.

Andy @ Allerton · « **Reply #159 on:** March 21, 2010, 02:48:59 PM »

Mancs screaming for a foul. Referee for once doesn't run across. Nani in the middle Rooney in the area with a shite ball in. Easily Cleared. Maxi with a nice move. Gets crocked.

'Webb' the 'referee' doesn't see the clear foul.