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Don't like McManaman
« on: February 12, 2004, 09:22:18 AM »
Think he's a phoney, moneygrabber, got no heart, over-rated. In fact I dislike him and have not got the time of day for him.

Just cannot understand why some Liverpool fans choose to portray our club in the same light as others. The lad spent a lot of time at Anfield.

Booing and abusing ex-players is for other clubs. Why show ourselves up as a two-faced bunch of gobshites? Oh, coz we are.

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Re: Don't like McManaman
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2004, 09:23:48 AM »
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Re: Don't like McManaman
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2004, 09:34:09 AM »
Agreed.  Although I didn't hear much booing for him last night, mainly because he steadfastly avoided any contact with the ball whenever possible.  To be honest I didn't really blame him for slipping off on a Bosman, I did blame him for the half arsed performances during his last few months with us though, hard to believe he's playing like that for his new club.  Sad to see some Liverpool fans abandoning another Anfield tradition simply to vent some spleen to a local lad who gave many excellent performances in a red shirt whatever the circumstances behind his departure.

I spoke to a couple of City fans this morning and they are sick to death of him.  He really seems to be in it for the money, no heart, no committment and given his talent and the potential he once showed I can't help feeling that his career, European cups notwithstanding, is a far cry from what it could have been.


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Re: Don't like McManaman
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2004, 02:20:27 PM »
Summed up what Im thinkin Armin! :wave

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Re: Don't like McManaman
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2004, 04:19:03 PM »
I never supported him when he was with us. I supported the club. He just happened to be here at the time. Its the same with every player. They all come and go. The club is what remains.

So I dont see it as two faced if people feel like booing him. I see it as loyalty to the LFC

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Re: Don't like McManaman
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2004, 04:37:36 PM »
He was the only fucking bright spark for years at Anfield.

Those booing him are right out of order - and that isn't holier than thou Wendi - it's just knowing the right way and the wrong way to  behave.

Ian Rush went to Italy - did we call him a Judas bastard, or did we welcome him back with open arms?  What's the difference?  Apart from the fact that back then we had decent supporters rather the fucking idiots that we're lumbered with these days.
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Re: Don't like McManaman
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2004, 07:10:14 PM »
He was the only fucking bright spark for years at Anfield.

Those booing him are right out of order - and that isn't holier than thou Wendi - it's just knowing the right way and the wrong way to  behave.

Ian Rush went to Italy - did we call him a Judas bastard, or did we welcome him back with open arms?  What's the difference?  Apart from the fact that back then we had decent supporters rather the fucking idiots that we're lumbered with these days.
  The difference with him and Rush is that we all knew Rush was going,he made no secret.Whereas the other c*nt kept saying all season that nothing was decided and he might in fact stay at Liverpool.Most of us knew he was off,and basically he played like it,as his last season here was a waste of time.I've got no time for him at all,and wouldn't waste my energy giving him stick at the match.Basically he should just have been ignored.
    Mind you some reds old enough to know better have conveniently forgotten the "FUCK OFF KEEGAN" banner(not actually a banner,individual cards with a different letter were held up to spell it out,but you know what I mean) that was on show in the Kop when he returned with Southampton.It's only the modern red who has no class apparently.

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Re: Don't like McManaman
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2004, 08:00:43 PM »
Didn’t think the treatment of him was anything worth bothering with, I don’t like him and ignored him like most round me.
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Re: Don't like McManaman
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2004, 09:47:47 PM »
Think he's a phoney, moneygrabber, got no heart, over-rated. In fact I dislike him and have not got the time of day for him.

Just cannot understand why some Liverpool fans choose to portray our club in the same light as others. The lad spent a lot of time at Anfield.

Booing and abusing ex-players is for other clubs. Why show ourselves up as a two-faced bunch of gobshites? Oh, coz we are.

Why decry today what you worshipped yesterday?

Jon you very nearly answered your own question in the first para. Throw in smug, deceiving, conniving, disloyal, pretentious bluenose  gobsh*te and I think you'll get a little closer  ;)

I don't normally agree with booing ex players like 95% or so of the fans Look at the ovations James, Fowler, Thompson Redknapp get when they turn up ... but I cant disagree with those who booed and made that banner

Why are supporters expected to show loyalty to him after the way he left. Surely its more hypocritical to clap someone who did a Mcmanaman than show your displeasure...its a passionate game not chess FFS..

Personally I dont give a rats arse and I wouldnt let an irritating little sh*t like him alter my mood.

Anyways he's found his niche now - on the City bench  ;D  ;D  ;D
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Re: Don't like McManaman
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2004, 09:59:37 PM »
He's a player who lit up the shitest period I've ever seen.  Only old buggers that saw the crap in the early 50s have seen worse.  He single handedly won us one trophy, and did a fair bit towards us winning the only other we'd had since '90.
He left us to go to a team that went on to win 2 European Cups with him in the team.
He also earned a fortune along with it - have you turned into such bitter, sniping, resentful wankers that you begrudge him that?

So he left for nothing.  Big fucking deal.  We got him for nothing, he gave us great service and left for nothing.

You talk about James?  A keeper with all the ability in the world who was more concerned with his modelling career and playing fucking playstation than learning his trade properly when he was with us.  But he gets a good old round of applause.  Pure fucking madness.  He cost us more games than anyone I can think of - but cos we got some money back for him, he gets a round of applause.
MacManaman was too good for the Liverpool team in his day - he knew it, we knew it.  He went on to better things.

"bluenose gobshite" now is he?  For fucks sake, some of you lot blow my mind, you really do.  This is the same player who we all glowed with pride about when Tom Finney said he'd put on the best performance he'd ever seen in the league cup final in '95.

Sort your heads out.  Remember the good times he gave us and move on.  You don't want to clap him, fine, but don't bring my good name down with you by booing one of our greats.
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Re: Don't like McManaman
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2004, 10:03:32 PM »
Never booed him but dont particular like him seens he done us out of £10 - 12 million just to add another ten grand a week to his millions.

I see James got a good reception by the Kop cant see why, he was shite anyway and i seem to remember him and Ince making sly comments when they left, just an over-rated gobshite if you ask me!

This was the man that thought the Centenary stand was the Spion Kop when he first came fuckin helmet!!!

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Re: Don't like McManaman
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2004, 10:09:31 PM »
But boo the manager. Are you fuckin stupid?

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Re: Don't like McManaman
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2004, 10:18:55 PM »
You don't want to clap him, fine, but don't bring my good name down with you by booing one of our greats.

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Re: Don't like McManaman
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2004, 10:23:40 PM »
Were you there in the 90s?
Were you?

If that's makes you laugh you couldn't have been.

Without him and Fowler, the 90s would have been totally worthless.  And I'm sure you don't have a problem with Fowler being a great do you?  No, just the player we got no money for.  Boo fucking hoo.

He's one of our greats.  You might not like him - but that doesn't change the fact.  6 years as the best player on the pitch earns him the right to be called a great.  For 6 years he was worth the ticket money on his own.
If you don't agree, you weren't there or you've let your bitterness cloud your memory.
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Re: Don't like McManaman
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2004, 10:24:24 PM »
I see James got a good reception by the Kop

And he returned the gratitude by assiting us for the 2nd goal!  ;D


On McManaman, I was a bit gutted to here a few boo's 2nd half when he got the ball, but that is peoples own choice if they think he shat on us back in the day then that's understandable.

I just couldn't boo a player who I used to rant and rave about, a player who was a favourite, who gave me a lot of joy watching - an idol of mine if you like.  I guess McManaman was a player of my era, so to speak - you know when you are younger you idolise players, they become your heros I was at that age when Macca was in his pomp. That's why he'll always be a favourite of mine and always will be. Too many good times and happy memories.  :)
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Re: Don't like McManaman
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2004, 10:28:33 PM »
Were you there in the 90s?
Were you?

If that's makes you laugh you couldn't have been.

Without him and Fowler, the 90s would have been totally worthless.  And I'm sure you don't have a problem with Fowler being a great do you?  No, just the player we got no money for.  Boo fucking hoo.

He's one of our greats.  You might not like him - but that doesn't change the fact.  6 years as the best player on the pitch earns him the right to be called a great.  For 6 years he was worth the ticket money on his own.
If you don't agree, you weren't there or you've let your bitterness cloud your memory.

Have to agree with that, we were a one man team for weeks on end, when he got man-marked, we were fucked.

A great great player he was for us but he's left a bad taste in my mouth which is a shame

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Re: Don't like McManaman
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2004, 10:37:36 PM »
Were you there in the 90s?
Were you?

If that's makes you laugh you couldn't have been.

Without him and Fowler, the 90s would have been totally worthless.  And I'm sure you don't have a problem with Fowler being a great do you?  No, just the player we got no money for.  Boo fucking hoo.

He's one of our greats.  You might not like him - but that doesn't change the fact.  6 years as the best player on the pitch earns him the right to be called a great.  For 6 years he was worth the ticket money on his own.
If you don't agree, you weren't there or you've let your bitterness cloud your memory.

Ive actually been a ST for around the last 20 years or so and before that attended nearly every game so I was there yes and yes

Bitterness ? hmmm possibly but Im trying to rationalise it
Good player?  yes most definately
Great ? Never
Ticket money alone ? Nah - Fowler, Redknapp, Jones, Wright, Rush, Barnes, Houghton, Nicol, Whelan, Molby and a few others...

Make me laugh ? this does  "You don't want to clap him, fine, but don't bring my good name down with you by booing one of our greats. "

Talk about up ones self  ;)
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Re: Don't like McManaman
« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2004, 11:07:30 PM »
McManaman great? No!
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Re: Don't like McManaman
« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2004, 12:01:32 AM »
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Re: Don't like McManaman
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2004, 05:37:16 AM »
Wouldnt of Boo'd him, wouldnt of cheered him either though. Good player, one of my favourites during his time with us but he showed what hes really like when he knew he was leaving for Madrid.

As for him being a LFC great, dont know about that one. If he is, we've cheapened the word great in my opinion.
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Re: Don't like McManaman
« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2004, 10:13:45 AM »
Is Craig Johnstone a great?
Sammy Lee?
David Fairclough?
You see my point - they did less for us than Macca did - but I'd doubt anyone would have a problem seeing them as "great".

He was the best player on the pitch for us for at least 4 years.  At the time we used to say (like we do now about players like Owen and Gerrard) "without him we'd be fighting off relegation".

He's a great in my eyes - I really think if he's not in yours, you're letting the way he left cloud your memory.
To me I was pissed off at the time
1. A great player was leaving
2. We were getting no money for him.

But it was Evans' mistake, not Maccas.  And we'd have only wasted the money anyway...
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Re: Don't like McManaman
« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2004, 10:16:53 AM »
Macca made a mistake as a brash 27-year old - big deal.  We all make/made mistakes, and it's time for people to put Macca's mistake behind us and to celebrate all the great moments he gave us.
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« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2004, 10:19:47 AM »
Why is it OK for the club to try and fuck McManaman over by selling him to Barcelona, but when McManaman showed his displeasure at that whole sorry affair by leaving for RM he's been portrayed as a Judas? I dont like the way the club has been painted as whiter than white in the whole situation.

McManaman was a great player for us. End of. I'd prefer to remember him for that rather but respect the right of others to disagree, hate him and produce banners calling him a Judas.

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Re: Don't like McManaman
« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2004, 10:23:05 AM »
Is Craig Johnstone a great?
Sammy Lee?
David Fairclough?
You see my point - they did less for us than Macca did - but I'd doubt anyone would have a problem seeing them as "great".

I consider the likes of Dalglish, Souness, Hansen, Rush, Barnes, Billy Liddle etc Greats.

And the Best fans in the world thing- Thats always made me laugh
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Re: Don't like McManaman
« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2004, 10:23:37 AM »
and produce banners calling him a Judas.

Was there actually a banner at the match?  Or were you just tongue in cheek there?  ???  Disgraceful if there was  :wanker
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« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2004, 10:36:35 AM »
Apparently, yes. Along the lines of:

$ub for Real Madrid
$ub for Man City
Judas

or something....

Not sure if it was there or was just an idea for one? Either way its shitty. Judas? ::)

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Re: Don't like McManaman
« Reply #26 on: February 13, 2004, 11:55:02 AM »
Apparently, yes. Along the lines of:

$ub for Real Madrid
$ub for Man City
Judas

or something....

Not sure if it was there or was just an idea for one? Either way its shitty. Judas? ::)

I heard  on the commentary that there was a banner using the word Judas on it.  Would not boo an ex- player ever.  And absolutely loved McManaman in his hey day.
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Re: Don't like McManaman
« Reply #27 on: February 13, 2004, 12:16:12 PM »
He was the only fucking bright spark for years at Anfield.

Those booing him are right out of order - and that isn't holier than thou Wendi - it's just knowing the right way and the wrong way to  behave.


No its not - its an opinion which I surely respect. By holier than thou I was referring to some comments by people questioning who is a real supporter and patronising sky fans insinuations.

Right or wrong is very subjective. I was brought up to love the club and taught that players come and go.  Managers too. So my loyalty is always with the club not the individuals.

Is that right or wrong? Who is to say.

Ex players with other clubs mean nothing to me til they retire. Fans booing  McMoneyman doesnt bother me at all given what happened.  Funnily enough, what does bother me though is the singing of Fowlers name by the Kop while he plays for Man City. Until he retires I think its an insult to LFC. He did nothing wrong by the club, but he is  Man City now and I have no loyalty to them.

Is that right or wrong? Who is to say.

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« Reply #28 on: February 13, 2004, 12:35:37 PM »
Apparently, yes. Along the lines of:

$ub for Real Madrid
$ub for Man City
Judas

or something....

Not sure if it was there or was just an idea for one? Either way its shitty. Judas? ::)

That's crap  :no  Wankers.

Saw a banner been unfurled at the start of the 2nd half right at the front of 103, but couldn't read what it said.
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Re: Don't like McManaman
« Reply #29 on: February 13, 2004, 12:42:50 PM »
"Funnily enough, what does bother me though is the singing of Fowlers name by the Kop while he plays for Man City. Until he retires I think its an insult to LFC. He did nothing wrong by the club, but he is  Man City now and I have no loyalty to them.

Is that right or wrong? Who is to say?"


It's wrong.  Fowler contributed to the club, and we still enjoy the fruits of his contribution (because he helped us win cups, expand followign, etc etc), and every other player who ever put on our shirt and played his socks off.  How can you reject all of that?  Fine, when Biscan leaves, I'll probably forget his presence pretty quickly, but surely not Robbie's.

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« Reply #30 on: February 13, 2004, 12:52:40 PM »
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The least enjoyable win I can ever remember. This was a horrible night, and coming out of Anfield I felt a range of emotions, from disappointment to anger. The performance of the team was bad enough, the cowardice from the manager no more than I have come to expect, but the most depressing thing was the Kop. Tonight was the night when the myth about 'most knowledgeable fans in the game' was well and truly exploded.

I'm sure I'll get stick for what I'm about to say, but to be honest I'm so angry right now I don't really give a shit. Liverpool fans have always prided themselves on being superior to everyone else. We often look down our noses at supporters of other clubs, and we've had every right to in the past. No more.

We were the most original, the most witty, the most sporting. In short, we WERE the most knowledgeable. But somewhere along the line we've lost all of that. The atmosphere at Anfield has been getting steadily worse, but I can understand the noise levels dropping, because let's face it, most home games are about as interesting as watching the Salon live on E4.

So there's an excuse for the lack of atmosphere, but there's absolutely no excuse for the treatment handed out to Steve McManaman. It was pathetic, embarrassing and totally unnecessary. More than that, it was [censored] shameful, smalltime behaviour which we would expect from the likes of Villa or the Blueshite.

Whatever your view on how McManaman left the club, there is no excuse for booing a player who cost us nothing, gave us six years great service, carried the team almost single handedly for about three seasons (I say almost only because of Fowler's massive contribution in that period), and was man of the match in two cup final successes.

Tonight showed once and for all that we can no longer claim to be different to other football supporters. We still have our moments of great sportsmanship of course, but the sad truth is that the Kop has been diluted to such an extent that morons now feel comfortable in expressing their smalltime views safe in the knowledge that there are plenty of like minded individuals in the vicinity.

It was a minority booing, but it was a significant minority. And whatsmore, it's a minority which is growing each season. There's still Kopites with that wit, originality and humour, but they're a diminishing number.

When was the last time you heard anything original emanating from the Kop? Anytime there is something original, no-one joins in. Tonight being a prime example. Robbie takes a tumble in the box after an innocuous collision with Carra, and a few Kopites started singing "Same old Scousers, always cheating" No-one wanted to know. Someone boos Macca, and a couple of thousand join in.

The booing was bad enough, but even worse was the banner displayed at the start of the second half at the front of the Kop. "Sub at Real, Sub at City - Judas" Nice eh? I don't know if Steve saw it, but his dad certainly did, as he sits right in front of me in the Main Stand. I was talking to him at half time, and he just shrugged off the booing, as I'm sure his laid back son will too.

Steve's dad was there supporting Liverpool - as he is every home game - and was on his feet after both goals. He's a bigger man than I am. If my son had been treated like that I'd say '[censored] the lot of you' and I'd be tearing up my season ticket and going to watch my lad play every week. The booing wasn't universal, but it wasn't just a handful of people either. It's not often I feel ashamed to be a Liverpool fan, but tonight I did.

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Re: Don't like McManaman
« Reply #31 on: February 13, 2004, 12:57:02 PM »
"Funnily enough, what does bother me though is the singing of Fowlers name by the Kop while he plays for Man City. Until he retires I think its an insult to LFC. He did nothing wrong by the club, but he is  Man City now and I have no loyalty to them.

Is that right or wrong? Who is to say?"


It's wrong.  Fowler contributed to the club, and we still enjoy the fruits of his contribution (because he helped us win cups, expand followign, etc etc), and every other player who ever put on our shirt and played his socks off.  How can you reject all of that?  Fine, when Biscan leaves, I'll probably forget his presence pretty quickly, but surely not Robbie's.

Come on the Reds.  Past, present and future.

I did say "until he retires". Right now though he is a City player and singing his name is  insulting to our club imho.

I acknowledge all he has done for the LFC but imo its a priveledge to play for us. Nonetheless, when he retires Id be more than happy to sing his name.   
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Re: Don't like McManaman
« Reply #32 on: February 13, 2004, 07:33:02 PM »
Mcmanaman will always be remembered by me as a great.

He was a fantastic footballer.

I know a few people who live in Madrid who say he was an excellent ambassador for both Liverpool and England whilst there. Also he won the respect of the Real Madrid fans for many GREAT performances and may great goals (inc the final). More impressively still he won the respect of the Madrid heirachy and players-not a bad bunch of judges I'd wager.

The club tried to fuck him (like it regularly does to us) and he then looked after his own house. Big effin' deal. he is a professional sportsmen. he wanted to win things. Big things, and make more money doing it. dDon't tell me if you in your job knew that in a year's time you may leave your job you'd band it about in front of your bosses if it suited you to do otherwise.

Steve Mcmanaman was a magnificent player and should be remembered as such, but that's just my opinion.

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Re: Don't like McManaman
« Reply #33 on: February 13, 2004, 10:04:55 PM »
i never booed him, but i certainly didn't cheer him either.

he simply wasn't worth the effort.  in my opinion he done the dirt on us.

seen the lads with the banner - they were sitting in 203 i think.  couldn't read it all though.

another good reception for Robbie.  maybe you should consider why Robbie got a good reception and mcmoneyman didn't
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Re: Don't like McManaman
« Reply #34 on: February 13, 2004, 10:27:42 PM »
The club tried to fuck him (like it regularly does to us) and he then looked after his own house. Big effin' deal. he is a professional sportsmen. he wanted to win things. Big things, and make more money doing it. dDon't tell me if you in your job knew that in a year's time you may leave your job you'd band it about in front of your bosses if it suited you to do otherwise.

Steve Mcmanaman was a magnificent player and should be remembered as such, but that's just my opinion.

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Re: Don't like McManaman
« Reply #35 on: February 13, 2004, 10:52:34 PM »
Foe those of you who don't remember. LFC sold Macca to Barca for 12M when he did not ask for a move. He was then fucked around by Barca who basically used him to force this unknown Brazilian fella called Rivaldo to sign. If the club showed him no loyalty why should he reciprocate?

For the record he 'carried' the Liverpool team for most of the nineties. Tirelessly working for the team. Robbie may have got the goals but he supplied most of them.

Was he a great? If you compare him to the likes of Liddell or Kenny then no. But I'd rate him in the top 3 best Liverpool players of the nineties.

For those who say he's arrogant I'd disagree. I met him once just after he left. He had come back at Christmas to see all the LFC staff including the ticket office staff. I stopped him on the way to his car and he made time to talk with me about Madrid. He came across as down to earth as any other lad from Kirkdale.

I was also proud to see him score in the European Cup final and lift
the trophy. It was good to see a scouser do that again.

Lastly booing him and raising Judas banners is shite. If you dont agree with him then silence and therefore ignoring him is better. Its an old Liverpool tradition to clap former players but if he didn't receive this honour then he would soon get the message
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Re: Don't like McManaman
« Reply #36 on: February 13, 2004, 11:04:44 PM »
How loyal were the club when they tried to sell him to Barcelona for £12M? How loyal were they when they agreed a contract and then changed it later? Fucking got the lad for free so he can go for free.

Babbel - is he a judas? - NO! Fucking grow up, banners are a fucking disgrace too and small time.

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Re: Don't like McManaman
« Reply #37 on: February 13, 2004, 11:07:13 PM »
Babbel - is he a judas? - NO! Fucking grow up, banners are a fucking disgrace too and small time.

Yep, especially all those ones declaring how great our club is, how we've conquered all before us. How small time ::)

Who are you? Everyone else on here seems to decent and polite. How comes you're here then?

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Re: Don't like McManaman
« Reply #38 on: February 13, 2004, 11:08:30 PM »
Babbel - is he a judas?



                                 
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Re: Don't like McManaman
« Reply #39 on: February 13, 2004, 11:08:47 PM »
Me mate used to play footy with his old man Phil, just thought I'd say it like 
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